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by T.K
17 May 2012
Forum: Factual Yagya History: BK and PBK versions
Topic: The Founding of the World Renewal Trust
Replies: 39
Views: 7851

Re: The Founding of the World Renewal Trust

Often on registration it is used the minimum initial amount, prescribed by the law for registration or some minimum amount, because it does not matter and it does not represent the actual amount the trust possesses. Indeed. But it is not as if all or any BK holdings were put in it (at most it was R...
by T.K
17 May 2012
Forum: Factual Yagya History: BK and PBK versions
Topic: The Founding of the World Renewal Trust
Replies: 39
Views: 7851

Re: The Founding of the World Renewal Trust

I know a little bit about BKs, but certainly nowhere as much as many on this forum. I am interested in learning about their early history. When BKs moved to India, their trust from the early days was perhaps still operational. I presume they owned some property in Mt. Abu by 1968. The trust that Ram...
by T.K
16 May 2012
Forum: Factual Yagya History: BK and PBK versions
Topic: The Founding of the World Renewal Trust
Replies: 39
Views: 7851

Re: The Founding of the World Renewal Trust

is not a sum of Rs. 2000 that was used to create the World Renewal Spiritual Trust, surprisingly small? Also it appears the money was fronted by Ramesh Shah - wasn't as if all BK holdings were put into this trust.
Kind of makes it look benign.
Am I mistaken?
by T.K
14 May 2012
Forum: Questioning, Discussing & Debating
Topic: AK crazy story about peacock
Replies: 160
Views: 23061

Re: AK crazy story about peacock

I know that the BKs certainly used to teach it as "true" ... but even then I suspect it was just because Lekhraj Kirpalani was teaching a group of young girls and women and to mention 'sexual intercourse' was too difficult. Interesting. I am pretty sure BK Usha said something to the effect, "Baba h...
by T.K
13 May 2012
Forum: Questioning, Discussing & Debating
Topic: AK crazy story about peacock
Replies: 160
Views: 23061

Re: AK crazy story about peacock

I started the topic about AIVV lies about the peacock procreation, you turned the topic into ... never mind. I heard this claim made recently by B.K.Usha on PMTV. I agree, current scientific data belies the BK claim (sounds like PBKs make it, too). I wonder if this an overzealous individual making ...
by T.K
13 May 2012
Forum: Questioning, Discussing & Debating
Topic: Need help to understand teachings of PBK
Replies: 44
Views: 5027

Re: Need help to understand teachings of PBK

It is wrong to blame India for the Brahma Kumaris standards. I am not blaming anyone for anything! But you cannot discount the influence of the prevalent culture of the 1930s - 1950s India on a group of children who stayed isolated from the outside world in their formative years. Of course they wer...
by T.K
13 May 2012
Forum: Factual Yagya History: BK and PBK versions
Topic: BK Shivani on the foundations of BKWSU history
Replies: 4
Views: 1914

Re: BK Shivani on the foundations of BKWSU history

I can only understand a fraction of it ... but enough to know they are still repeating the big lie. I watched the clip. What is the "big lie" you are referring to? Here is the summary of the BK history I gathered from the clip: Lekhraj Kirpalani got the Vishnu vision in Bombay. Then he got the visi...
by T.K
13 May 2012
Forum: Questioning, Discussing & Debating
Topic: Need help to understand teachings of PBK
Replies: 44
Views: 5027

Re: Need help to understand teachings of PBK

You appear to contradict yourself within a breath and idiosyncratic statements like "revealing the Father" must cast you in the BK camp, or post-BK camp. Not that I have anything against that ... but you are not coming across like the "academic historian" you presented yourself as. What is your pos...
by T.K
12 May 2012
Forum: Questioning, Discussing & Debating
Topic: Need help to understand teachings of PBK
Replies: 44
Views: 5027

Re: Need help to understand teachings of PBK

Are they coming out with 5,000 years specifically etc? What are they saying about the Confluence Age? Oh yes. They are not holding back on anything - everything is out in the open. Sessions from Mt. Abu., London, etc., are broadcast live. It is not different from what a regular BK hears on a daily ...
by T.K
12 May 2012
Forum: Factual Yagya History: BK and PBK versions
Topic: Unraveling the history of Lekhraj Kripalani's partner
Replies: 35
Views: 5532

Re: Unraveling the history of Lekhraj Kripalani's partner

The BKs may not have realized that it was actually Shiv speaking in the beginning of the Yagya (when knowledge was being narrated through BB's partner) but after Sakar Murlis started to be narrated through BB, they did realize that it was Shiv speaking through him. Actually, the soul of Brahma Baba...
by T.K
11 May 2012
Forum: Factual Yagya History: BK and PBK versions
Topic: Unraveling the history of Lekhraj Kripalani's partner
Replies: 35
Views: 5532

Re: Unraveling the history of Lekhraj Kripalani's partner

.. one cannot know whether He has entered in a person or not. It is only on the basis of the special knowledge (i.e. Murli) narrated through that person that people guess/understand that it is Shiv speaking through that person. But in case of Gulzar Dadiji, the programme is fixed many months in adv...
by T.K
10 May 2012
Forum: Questioning, Discussing & Debating
Topic: Need help to understand teachings of PBK
Replies: 44
Views: 5027

Re: Need help to understand teachings of PBK

With the BKs going on the air through PMTV and programmes on other channels, openly talking about the cycle, the quadrants, their durations, etc., these debates are likely come out in the open instead of being confined to the vestiges of the web. We are entering an interesting period, one way or ano...
by T.K
10 May 2012
Forum: Factual Yagya History: BK and PBK versions
Topic: Unraveling the history of Lekhraj Kripalani's partner
Replies: 35
Views: 5532

Re: Unraveling the history of Lekhraj Kripalani's partner

fluffy bunny wrote: No, I just meant the question simply ... are the BKs willing to help you at all in this?
I have no help from BKs.
by T.K
10 May 2012
Forum: Factual Yagya History: BK and PBK versions
Topic: Unraveling the history of Lekhraj Kripalani's partner
Replies: 35
Views: 5532

Re: Unraveling the history of Lekhraj Kripalani's partner

Does it not prove that it is not ShivBaba, but only Brahma Baba, i.e. the soul of Krishna which comes into Gulzar Dadiji? Not really! Don't the BKs claim it is the "combined form" of Shiva Baba+BB that enters Dadi Gulzar? Shiva Baba may not need an invitation, but if BB does, then would that explai...
by T.K
10 May 2012
Forum: Factual Yagya History: BK and PBK versions
Topic: Unraveling the history of Lekhraj Kripalani's partner
Replies: 35
Views: 5532

Re: Unraveling the history of Lekhraj Kripalani's partner

Are you saying there are no honest, straight forward people in India? I don't know. I suppose one could find some who are. Are the BKs helping you at all in this? Usually they try and use people as tools to repeat their PR version. No, I have not been put up by the BKs, or anyone else, to be here. ...