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by joel
14 Apr 2008
Forum: All & Everything
Topic: Books, movies and websites
Replies: 69
Views: 10535

Reading Herodotus

A student reading Herodotus in the original Greek alongside an English translation has some insightful articles and analyses on his blog. I would like to read more of the classics. This writer certainly whets my appetite.
by joel
12 Apr 2008
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: The Tao of the Traveller
Replies: 245
Views: 24727

Re: The Tao of the Traveller

The organisation and the people in it are still the most authentic, true spirited, pure-hearted and hard-working people that I have ever met. I have yet to meet a Raja Yogi who wants something back for what they have given. I could tell you many wonderful stories illustrating this, but would you re...
by joel
12 Apr 2008
Forum: Ex-BK
Topic: Having a partner, getting married & becoming a mum, dad etc
Replies: 68
Views: 7733

Expressing anger

Recognizing that the BKWSU's narrow orthodoxy about anger -- that anger is unequivocally negative and destructive -- helped me see that the BK teachings are fallable. I, too, suppressed my feelings of anger for many years, became quiet and dull. If I am still dull, at least I am no longer quiet! I b...
by joel
11 Apr 2008
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Janki Foundation is not a front organisation
Replies: 35
Views: 7203

Re: parade of Miss Madhuban

For new comers like JeanRoss, let me explain that the kindergarden play, Carnival costumes, are very common in this organization, and members have to attend celebrations where such masquerades occur. Many of us expect such occasions to be more "meditation oriented, " but often they turn into what s...
by joel
10 Apr 2008
Forum: Questioning, Discussing & Debating
Topic: Who is Bharat and who are Bharatwasis ??
Replies: 450
Views: 33253

Re: Who is Bharat and who are Bharatwasis ??

Thank you. I think that is most helpful. But I think we have to join with others where they are at ... slaves to the BKs or even PBKs ... give them free access to what they are holding on to ... the Murlis ... and then walk them step by step out of the desert (to use a religious metaphor) ... Murli...
by joel
10 Apr 2008
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Janki Foundation is not a front organisation
Replies: 35
Views: 7203

Re: Janki Foundation is not a front organisation

Rajneesh, too, allowed himself to be worshipped, saying "I am not attached to it." Personality cult, is, in my understanding, when you lose yourself -- your independent-standing -- to another person. When this happens en-masse, around a particular person, you have a religion, or a mass movement, or ...
by joel
07 Apr 2008
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Mention about ex-BKs in Murlis
Replies: 24
Views: 2492

Re: Mention about ex-BKs in Murlis

God wants me to have freedom of expression, real happiness, real joy, real peace. God wants me to live a normal life and not one of suppression, rigidity, control and domination by members and the leadership of the Brahma Kumaris. God wants me to communicate my feelings and emotions. God wants me t...
by joel
07 Apr 2008
Forum: For Vishnu Party & all other Splinter Groups
Topic: The Mr Green Kumaris
Replies: 97
Views: 13753

Re: The Mr Green Kumaris

I've been seeing this sig line on mailing list posts. Perhaps it is a hidden signal to Mr. Green Kumaris:
Somebody somewhere wrote:The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie.
by joel
04 Apr 2008
Forum: Newcomers backup
Topic: Recruited into BK from 12-steps programs?
Replies: 17
Views: 2322

Re: Recruited into BK from 12-steps programs?

Is offering free meditation classes in rehabs a way to promote BK or do they keep recruitment seperate from their outreach services? Welcome to the forum, Jean. Some mature individuals among the BKs work with addicts without pushing an agenda. In most BK events and activities, however, there is an ...
by joel
04 Apr 2008
Forum: All & Everything
Topic: 5000 year cycle, age of the Universe, other life forms
Replies: 3
Views: 673

Re: 5000 year cycle, age of the Universe, other life forms

mr green wrote:time is an asterix
*
What, you mean sphincter-shaped?
by joel
28 Mar 2008
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Karma - is it all so bad?
Replies: 29
Views: 3657

Re: Karma - is it all so bad?

Primal, Sarah and others, The experience of engaging with a person who is substantially self-realized, vigorous, fulfilled through their actions and relationships without philosophical, religious or karmic calculations ... witnessing that such people exist seems sufficient evidence--counterexamples-...
by joel
28 Mar 2008
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Karma - is it all so bad?
Replies: 29
Views: 3657

Re: Karma - is it all so bad?

As I understand human inner dynamics, when we fail to accept aspects of ourselves, the rejection of sends those aspects of oneself underground, where they express unconsciously. We don't see that we are acting out. We think we have a good reason for everything we do. Having a reason is not the same ...
by joel
12 Mar 2008
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: The Tao of the Traveller
Replies: 245
Views: 24727

Re: The Tao of the Traveller

I think there is nothing odd about a group of people creating a film that expresses their spiritual beliefs through allegory. That the film's screenings may lead viewers to contact with the producers' religion ... we would expect the producers to see that result as a positive effect. After all, they...
by joel
02 Mar 2008
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: A lie is OK ... !!!
Replies: 20
Views: 3198

Re: A lie is OK ... !!!

The assumption that BK followers are as children, and that it is appropriate to treat them as children is the key underlying issue for me. The euphemism for concealing is typically something like "to avoid burdening their intellect." In Zen there is the story of a particular master asked "when the K...
by joel
28 Feb 2008
Forum: For BKs - to discuss BK experiences
Topic: Soorya Bhai and Atam Prakash Bhai
Replies: 2
Views: 573

Ramnath Bhai

I hung out with Ramnath for a time. He has great stories -- coming face to face with a tiger, being on a bus that rolled over -- always protected by God. He also teaches a particular systematic way of going from thinking about BK knowledge to experience. He seems to have a deep fulfillment. Not a ba...