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by andrey
09 May 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Lies/Errors in Murlis OR Is it way of teaching of ...
Replies: 105
Views: 19347

Re: Lie/Errors in Murlis OR Is it way of teaching of....

It may mean that just as sanyasis get born through vice and then during their life time they become sanyasys, no one is sanyasy by birth, but they have such sanskars of reading scriptures and becoming sanyasys since last birth, so they become sanyasis in small age, similarly because of their practic...
by andrey
09 May 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Bhakti
Replies: 11
Views: 3243

Re: Bhakti

Yes, BKs don't know these puzzles, because no one is explaining to them. For eg. for them long lost and now found means after 5000 years and for the PBKs it means that we have met in the beginning of the Yagya and now we meet again.
by andrey
08 May 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Bhakti
Replies: 11
Views: 3243

Re: Bhakti

These quizes and puzzles are for the outside world. If someone newcomer comes and sits he won't understand, it is a puzzle for them it is a puzzle for the outside world, why it is said long lost and now found, who are Mama, Baba, Jagadamba, why it is said BapDadam why brahman kulbushan, but these pu...
by andrey
08 May 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Is Shiv really Trimurti? Mostly NO.
Replies: 25
Views: 6460

Re: Is Shiv really Trimurti? Mostly NO.

1) Because Shiv should be there 2) Just two does not look good means three looks good. 3) It is said Rudra Mala, Brahma Vishnu and Rudra. There is no mala of Shankar because he does destruction. To create mala means to create gathering. Gathering is created through purity and destruction is through ...
by andrey
08 May 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Lies/Errors in Murlis OR Is it way of teaching of ...
Replies: 105
Views: 19347

Re: Lie/Errors in Murlis OR Is it way of teaching of....

1) why approximately. Some souls take exactly 84 births through womb. What it is that you find disturbing here?

2) those sanyasis go to the sanathan dharma, who used to belong to the sanathan dharma in golden and silver ages and got converted, then when it is the Confluence Age again, they return.
by andrey
08 May 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Research into BKWSU.
Replies: 38
Views: 6469

Re: Research into BKWSU.

For you it may not be enough, but shivsena Bhai says he has full faith in the Murlis that these are the words of the Supreme Soul. Whatever it is said there is like written on stone. So, it should be enough for him.
by andrey
08 May 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Research into BKWSU.
Replies: 38
Views: 6469

Re: Research into BKWSU.

Br. John says that if Shiv enters Virendra Dev Dixit then he should know about the documents from 39-49 that has been presented to him. But first it should be proved that it is Shiv who had prepared these documents, then only we can expect he may know about them in some other body. And where is the ...
by andrey
08 May 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Is Shiv really Trimurti? Mostly NO.
Replies: 25
Views: 6460

Re: Is Shiv really Trimurti? Mostly NO.

The Murli point does not say that Shankar is not important. It says that Shiv should be there at the place of Shankar. But how will Shiv be there (without a body) That is why Shankara is put. (it means Shankar is the form through which Shiv is revealed). Then it is said that they have put Shiv (poin...
by andrey
07 May 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Picture Of Shiva Baba
Replies: 103
Views: 12939

Re: Picture Of Shiva Baba

By seeing the picture of ShivBaba people would understand – The unlimited Baba, the purifier of the sinful ones has come to establish the pure world. We are now obtaining the inheritance of heavenly self-rule like 5000 years ago. The soul knows – we will go to heaven and rule with body. That, which...
by andrey
06 May 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: BK / PBK Theology
Replies: 28
Views: 7271

Re: BK / PBK Theology

There was this question from shivsena two times, that who is Ram's community and who is Ravan's community. In VCD 726 it is said that the firm Rams comminity are only 8.

Regarding the souls in Paramdham it is said in the Murli that every soul goes in its own section.
by andrey
06 May 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Bhakti
Replies: 11
Views: 3243

Re: Bhakti

If we don't have knowledge still, but we leave Bhakti we will surely be comitting some crime/sins.We can leave Bhakti only after we receive knowledge. Till we receive knowledge the ritualism of Bhakti still gives some religious feeling that keeps us more or less away from performing sins. Dear shivs...
by andrey
05 May 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Bhakti
Replies: 11
Views: 3243

Bhakti

In some thread Bansy has raised the topic of what is Bhakti. Bhakti is blind faith. Shivsena said that there is either 100% Bhakti or 100% Gyan. In the Murli it is said that we have to become the embodiment of knowledge. That there is such a stage that is itself the form of knowledge. Knowledge is n...
by andrey
29 Apr 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Research into BKWSU.
Replies: 38
Views: 6469

Re: Research into BKWSU.

Murlis through Brahma Baba started to be narrated in Karachi - 47. Other personalities to teach must have been before this. Even before this must have been the period of divine visions and chanting om. After the demise of Brahma Baba other pracices had developed. http://www.brahmakumaris.org.in/Land...
by andrey
28 Apr 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Research into BKWSU.
Replies: 38
Views: 6469

Re: Research into BKWSU.

We can for eg. trace the way practice used to change. In the beginning according to the Murlis there used to be the chanting of the Gita from the Bhaktimarg. Then some children used to sit an teach the drill of meditation. Then the Murlis through Brahma Baba, Mama also used to speak Murli. Then Dadi...
by andrey
24 Apr 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Research into BKWSU.
Replies: 38
Views: 6469

Re: Research into BKSWU.

I believe BKSWU is teaching The Knowledge incorrectly and that is why there is damage being done. You say the proof is in seeing the results of the followers. John M I have heard some nasty things about BKSWU, none of which is on this forum or the BK.info forum. If you say inculcation is not good, ...