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by primal.logic
28 Nov 2006
Forum: Ex-BK
Topic: The next step - forcing responsibility
Replies: 10
Views: 1476

Thanks for your responses and interest. It is time to get real about this. We've talked quite comprehensively across the spectrum of issues that have affected us, we've had enough therapy ... In terms of affecting the program, I think that the 10 minutes I spent at this computer that resulted in a n...
by primal.logic
27 Nov 2006
Forum: Ex-BK
Topic: The next step - forcing responsibility
Replies: 10
Views: 1476

The next step - forcing responsibility

I went to the Sydney JAM program on Sunday. It has been some years since I have been to a BK event and it was interesting to see it from the outside. Primarily I had gone to see the impact of emails I had sent to the guest VIP speakers. I had emailed these 4 people under the banner of the Honour Rol...
by primal.logic
27 Nov 2006
Forum: Newcomers backup
Topic: Don't know if i could help my BK friend
Replies: 63
Views: 15290

duty bound

We do need to look out for each other - this is the essence of human survival and why we are biologically driven to belong. We are going to get passionate about things because we are talking about very personal and sometimes quite severe or dramatic issues - including our own lives, or even loss of ...
by primal.logic
24 Nov 2006
Forum: Newcomers backup
Topic: Don't know if i could help my BK friend
Replies: 63
Views: 15290

They have a lot of secrecy surrounding their true beliefs. The BKs as a whole go to great lengths to hide what the really believe. You can read some of that material for yourself on this website. Most BKs will only answer your questions in a secretive cryptic manner until they feel 'your intellect ...
by primal.logic
23 Nov 2006
Forum: Ex-BK
Topic: Honour Roll - suicide
Replies: 63
Views: 12818

The Path

Welcome back light server. Without the psychology aspects I think the psychology aspects are the main ones - this is the only information we have that has any connection to scientific research. This is something that is scoffed at by Bk's - "what do scientists know - God is telling us ... whatever"....
by primal.logic
14 Nov 2006
Forum: Ex-BK
Topic: Honour Roll - suicide
Replies: 63
Views: 12818

yes and yes

I think that those most likely to become BKs are those who have come from environments that were dysfunctional - meaning that the individual is still seeking validation and meaning. We all want to deny that we were needing love and acceptance. We made have hidden our need with cynicism and anger, ma...
by primal.logic
13 Nov 2006
Forum: Ex-BK
Topic: Honour Roll - suicide
Replies: 63
Views: 12818

vindication and victory

If I were to put it in a sentence - the failure of a Bk is actually proof of the truth of Gyan. If someone leaves (to suffer or eat up the little bit of good karma they created) it is vindication if not victory for those who stay. If you leave, or even if you are simply not a good 'effort maker', th...
by primal.logic
10 Nov 2006
Forum: Ex-BK
Topic: Honour Roll - suicide
Replies: 63
Views: 12818

suicide reinforces bk faith

As I find myself looking over the edge again I am deeply disturbed by the reaction of BKs to ex bk 'misadventure'. I remember when I was a bk and news was received of an ex bk's misfortune - it was automatically interpreted as being the result of their leaving Gyan. As an example, one ex Bk had been...
by primal.logic
03 Oct 2006
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: BKs in our school systems and outright deception
Replies: 21
Views: 2538

spinning

Spin, spin and more spin - it is as endless as it is poetic, clever and articulate. One has to be attracted to it. But I wonder when any of these spin doctors are actually going to impart knowledge of the Kalpa? And tell these family units that sex is bad for them. And that we have to listen to this...
by primal.logic
30 Sep 2006
Forum: For BKs - to discuss BK experiences
Topic: More Mike George
Replies: 36
Views: 5249

Mike George is a spin doctor supreme. He and Jayanti have been ******** in the Subtle Regions for years. No surprise he gets the benefits he does.
by primal.logic
07 Sep 2006
Forum: Ex-BK
Topic: Honour Roll - suicide
Replies: 63
Views: 12818

thanks, but now what?

It's good to see the honesty and openness that has been expressed in this string. The 'complications' that came with leaving Gyan after so many years also lead me to multiple attempted suicides. How I am still here is some evidence for me just how strong the survival instinct is. I left the BK philo...
by primal.logic
15 Aug 2006
Forum: Ex-BK
Topic: A psychological phenomenon common to BK's.
Replies: 0
Views: 737

A psychological phenomenon common to BK's.

Originally I posted this in the ex-BK backroom but now feel it is okay to bring out into the public arena. It is lengthy but please be patient and read on. It explains a lot about BKs and ex-BK trauma: This posting makes broad reference to psychological issues in the BK's in general and ADHD specifi...
by primal.logic
09 Aug 2006
Forum: Ex-BK
Topic: Honour Roll - suicide
Replies: 63
Views: 12818

I also know of 2 other souls who have suffered this way. I think that if we contribute names we can both honour them and remind the BK's of their responsibility. That such a tragedy can be dismissed by the Bk's doesn't mean that we should allow them to be either dismissed or reduced to a statistic t...
by primal.logic
08 Aug 2006
Forum: Ex-BK
Topic: Honour Roll - suicide
Replies: 63
Views: 12818

Honour Roll - suicide

Whatever we say about the Bk's, along the way I met some really fantastic people who passed through the BK 'family'. However, tragically, some great souls that I met were so overwhelmed by the trauma of failure, guilt and confusion that they took their own lives. If there was ever a case of an organ...
by primal.logic
08 Aug 2006
Forum: Ex-BK
Topic: BKs - psychology, ADHD and exit strategies
Replies: 3
Views: 648

Thanks

Thanks Eugene. I appreciate your positive response. It was a long and rocky road that lead to this ADHD discussion. It just shouldn't be so difficult to communicate these ideas/information to a large group of people who really need it - I take it as evidence of the lack of real compassion in BK lead...