In the old days, it definitely would have been against Shrimat to accept money from who was having sex. Or so we were told.
What color is S.E.? That makes a difference. The Indians REALLY love a Doctor ... doctor or accountant ... a "VERY SUITABLE GIRL", to quote the marriage ads. Let's not kid ourselves. The response of the Seniors to a profesional in the BKWSU is on a par with the characturized Jewish mother gloating over a child that is an "-ologist". Even Jayanti is a college drop out.alladin wrote:What makes the difference? Maybe she was from upper class or wealthy, or determined to pursue studies and career?
As regards the "coil-made woman who climbs (quickly) the levels ..." (no idea what that means, bad translation) I think this is all falling into place now and interesting to note.
Yes, abek, I think this is all a very typical patern that other sects have adopted. The whole Est/Gestalt thing did just the samething of moving into the corporate environment with their New Age spirituality. If you do some reading of other cultish organisations, you will find it is a very typical move for meditators etc to re-marketing themselves into "executive coaches" and charge executive rates.
The sad thing is, I do not even think it is a new idea, I think they have just taken it from what they have seen elsewhere ... and I am sure that it must have taken some period of "negotiation" before the Seniors went with it. And, in my experience, the Seniors would have only gone for it if they saw the tangible benefit ... e.g. mics, status or money. Its a good ruse because in a corporate environment they expect to pay and in a sense will only value IF they pay. So folks get paid.
What interests me is this trend we are identifying here. We all know what the Maryadas are and can regurgitate Murlis ad nuseum. What we seem to be highlighting are ambitious and "successful" BKs, (e.g. center-in-charges, guddhi grabbers, public faces) who drop their knickers and break Shrimat, i.e. are defeated by Maya, and then are either given or take a secondary position in what I call a front organization.
Some of them then take what they did in the BKWSU, e.g. being a center-in-charge, the LVEP or SML, remove the whacky cult elements and reinvent it to look good in their CVs ... "blah-blah-blah NGO ... blah-blah-blah Women's Rights ... blah-blah-blah UN ... blah-blah-blah Big International Programme" etc . Women also use the "feminist" angle of the BKWSU.
Now, to be honest, I am sympathetic to them. I too faced the difficulty of explaining away my time in a whacky cult ... the missing years ... the lack of cultural awareness ... the lack of professional development ... and I too bullshitted my BKWSU experience into some "look good" confectionary. I have stopped though.
The ethical question I would like to raise is when the orbit starts to include others like these women's husbands. I remember what happened when the "coil lady" put back on her clothes and returned from her "holiday" from Gyan with "devotee' in tow. The Seniors would not give back her position in the center system. So may be jumping onto something like the SML or LVEP is symptomatic of a sort of status grabbing SOME (not all) BKs are attracted to.
May be the corporate and trust elements is the exit strategies, the sop handed out either consciously or unconsciously to intelligent and professional fallen BKs that still might be useful. What sop is there for a young, simple, unqualified individual that falls out of the system even if they gave up their education and career to join it?
I alone, as mr green has been demonstrating, am nothing and have nothing ... the "black-faced BK" ... the failure ... "lower than the lowest of the low" ... no wonder one is left suicidal with all that in one's mind. But if I grab the corporate elements I am something. My esteem is patched up a bit. I can still do partial service by handing over my contacts to the pure BK sisters and feel valued.
I too have experience this stage when even though I was leaving. I felt duty bound (or programmed) to hand over all my friendships or contacts and still do "service". Always bound by the mental compression of the End of the World and the one given way out. It was weird and confusing. It was like I was not even allowed to have a relationship except if they were in it and I handed it, the other persons, over to the BKWSU.
In fear, I was always spreading my bets between the real world and their world system.