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Post by arjun » 05 Aug 2006

Q.No.24: Kya Dinasaur sachmuch may huay hain ya yah keval kalpana hai?
Ans: Dinosour aur dinosour jaise bade-bade chaupahiya janwar dwapar ki sooruwat me hote the jo baad me dusre chaupahiya ke nasal me badal gaye.

Q.No.24: Did Dinasaurs really exist or is it only an imagination?
Ans:Dinasaurs and Dinasaurs like Four-legged large animals existed at the beginning of the Copper Age which got transformed into other species of four-legged animals later on.

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Post by john » 05 Aug 2006

Is this thread now dead as per forum members having questions answered by Baba or is there a way around it?

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Post by raviraj » 07 Aug 2006

This query to pbk souls,

Below is the reply I received with baba's approval.

-- Until now, with the exception of Vaishnavi Devi, the souls of Vijayamala have not been declared yet. So how would the 224999 Vijaymala souls turn out to be so fortunate to become the seed form souls despite the fact that the souls of Rudramala recognise the Father from the very beginning of the Yagya? Is it because of their power of dharna(purity)?-------Theek hai.

So, regarding the reply, is it true that until the total numbr of 250000 Rudramala souls are not formed the Parivartan Shaktis( Vaishnavi Devi like souls) are not going to come in the field?

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Post by arjun » 08 Aug 2006

John Bhai wrote:Is this thread now dead as per forum members having questions answered by Baba or is there a way around it?
This thread is not at all dead. The questions asked by some members in this thread are in the process of being replied by Baba. Actually, due to problems of internet and because of Baba being on tour continuously the replies are getting delayed.

Meanwhile, any other PBK can give a reply to the questions raised by any member in this thread because Baba has already replied in response to one of the member's question that non-PBKs cannot ask questions directly, but if PBKs wish they can seek approval for their answers from Baba or seek answers from Baba if they cannot answer those questions themselves.

I would have loved to participate more frequently and actively on this forum, but due to my lokik and aloukik engagements, I am unable to find enough time. Therefore, I request other PBKs to respond to the queries/views of other members as soon as possible so that this section could witness more activity.

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Post by john » 08 Aug 2006

Dear ArjunBhai

Thanks for the positive reply. I understand it is difficult to attend to the forum consistently.
Your input is greatly appreciated. Questions;

1. Does Virendra Dev Dixit still read Sakar Murlis and does he study the Murli clarifications i.e. reads them and churns on the points?

2. How does Virendra Dev Dixit remember Shiva?

3. Is it good/right to remember the Soul World as per the BK instructions?

4. Which came first the declaration of Virendra Dev Dixit being the Chariot of Shiva by other souls or his own realisation.

5. When Virendra Dev Dixit met BapDada or Brahma through Dadi Gulzar before PBKs came into existance(pre 1976?), did he consider it to be Shiva or just Brahma
who he was meeting?

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Post by bansy » 08 Aug 2006

Arjunbhai,
Yes I agree with John for your ongoing efforts.
I do hope more PBKs could also give their experiences and understanding of Gyan.

To append to John's list of queries :
1. How did Virendra Dev Dixit recognise Shiva during the time 1969-1976 ? Virendra Dev Dixit was going through intensive study of the Murlis, but how did he receive the revelation that he was the Chariot ? Did he also find himself "speaking out loud" the same way as the chariots back in the 1930-40s ?

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Post by atma » 08 Aug 2006

Bhai's,

Very good questions. One thing to keep in mind is be patient for the answers.

Baba (Virendra Dev Dixit) is doing many things (those that I am not sure of exactly) but please remember Baba probably gets thousounds of correspondances (emails, letters etc.) and because he is loving and un attached he treats each one with importance. So in due time the answers will be provided.

It is pretty amazing what he does in a 24 hour day.

Atma

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Q&A - Surya Bhai

Post by arjun » 09 Aug 2006

Om Shanti. Surya Bhai had asked some questions on 26th June, 2006 for which I have received replies from Baba vide email no.6075/06. The same are produced below for the kind information of members.
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Prashna No.25: Kya chakra may Shiv aur Ram kabhi alag hotey hain? Arthaat kya Ram kabhi ham jaisey saadharan vyakti banta hai, apni aatma ke saath akela?

Uttar: ShivBap & ShivBaba 5000 varsh kay liye alag ho jaatey hain.

Prashna No.26: Tretayug ke pashchaat, kya Ram kabhi vikaari banta hai? Ya kya vah sampoorna drama may ever-pure hai?

Uttar: Haanji , girta hai , lekin vikaar alag baat, vyabhichari alag baat.

Prashna No.27: Jab Shiv Paramdhaam may hotay hain toh voh kaisey lagtey hain?

Uttar: Bindu bindu aatmaon ka baap Shiv bindu hai.

Prashna No.28: Sevakram ki patni kaun thi? Kya vah Gita mata thi ya doosri mata jo us samay upasthit thi jab Dada Lekhraj ke saakshatkaaron ka arth samjhaaya ja raha tha?

Uttar: dono me se ek to hogi . Abhi ko pakka praman to mila nehi . mostlly Radha hi hogi.

Prashna No.29: Apney bhaageedaar ke paas saakshaatkaaron ke samaadhaan ke liye jaaney say pehley Dada Lekhraj nay kitna samay prateeksha kee thi?

Uttar: Saal , 6 maheenaa lag gayaa hoga.

Prashna No.30: Dada Lekhraj ko huay saakshaatkar kee taareekh (din, varsh, samay) kya thi?

Uttar: Koi proof nahi milaa.

Prashna No.31: Choonki Sevakram ghar par nahee thay....Gita mata nay unko saakshaatkaaron ka varnan karney say pehley kitnaa samay intazaar kiya?

Uttar: Koi proof nahi milaa.

Prashna No.32: Aur kya Dada Lekhraj apney saakshatkaaron ka spashtikaran praapta karney ke liye kisi aur din lautey thay? Kya Gita mata nay Dada Lekhraj ko fir say bulaaya ki aakar saari baaton ka arth samjho?

Uttar: Koi proof nahi milaa.

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Question No.25: Do Shiv and Ram ever get separate during The Cycle? Meaning does Ram ever becomes a simple person like us, alone with his own soul?

Ans: Father Shiv and ShivBaba get separated for 5000 years.

Qustion No.26: After Silver Age, does Ram ever fall into lust? Or is he ever pure in the entire drama?

Ans: yes, he does experience downfall, but sex-lust is a different matter and becoming adulterous is a different matter.

Question No.27: How does Shiv looks like when He is in Parandham?

Ans: Shiv, the Father of point-like souls is a point.

Question No.28: Who was Servakram's wife? Was it Gita Mata or the other mata present during the visions queries done by DL?

Ans: It must certainly be one among the two. So far, no concrete proof has been found. Mostly, it must be Radha only.

Question No.29: How long did DL wait before going to the partner looking for answers?

Ans: It must have taken a year or 6 months.

Question No.30: What was the date (day, year, time) that DL had the visions?

Ans: No proof has been found.

Question No.31: Since Servakram wasn't at home ...how long did Gita Mata wait before relating the vision to him?

Ans: No proof has been found.

Question No.32: And ..Did DL returned to get the clarification to his visions in another day? Did Gita Mata call DL back saying... come back to hear the meaning of everything?

Ans: No proof has been found.

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Post by john » 09 Aug 2006

Question No.25: Do Shiv and Ram ever get separate during The Cycle? Meaning does Ram ever becomes a simple person like us, alone with his own soul?

Ans: Father Shiv and ShivBaba get separated for 5000 years.
Is it possible for any PBK to elaborate on this. Is the meaning how it initially reads, that there are two Shivas?

If not which name refers to which soul?

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Post by arjun » 10 Aug 2006

John Bhai wrote:Is it possible for any PBK to elaborate on this. Is the meaning how it initially reads, that there are two Shivas? If not which name refers to which soul?
Father Shiv refers to the incorporeal Supreme Soul Shiv who is Father of all the souls, whether human souls or the souls of animals, birds, insects, etc. When this incorporeal Supreme Father Shiv enters into a human body (Prajapita Brahma) this combination is called ShivBaba. But in one of the Sakar Murlis narrated by Shiv through Brahma Baba it has been said - Who is always present in this world? It is ShivBaba only.

Since Father Shiv returns to the Soul World soon after the establishment of the rule of Lakshmi and Narayan, it is His final Chariot, i.e. Prajapita Brahma, who remains in this world. It is he who plays the role of a Hero in this world. He plays an all-round part. So, he gets the title of ShivBaba when Father Shiv departs from this world. That is why Avyakt BapDada has said in the Avyakt Vanis that we should strive to play more part with Prajapita Brahma in the entire Kalpa.

But the above explanation does not mean that ShivBaba is greater than Shiv.

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Arjun

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Post by john » 10 Aug 2006

ArjunBhai wrote:Who is always present in this world? It is ShivBaba only.
Actually I have never seen this point, but I don't have access to all Sakar Murlis. Is it possible for you to tell which Sakar Murli it is from?

I have seen in most Sakar Murlis reference is to ShivBaba as the Supreme Soul only. I have not yet seen a reference to ShivBaba meaning Supreme Soul in a body, are there any points in Sakar Murlis which explain the concept of ShivBaba being Supreme Soul plus the body(Chariot)?

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arjun wrote:are there any points in Sakar Murlis which explain the concept of ShivBaba being Supreme Soul plus the body(Chariot)?
Dear divine brothers,

I first heard the explanation as how we should remember Baba in a discussion with foreign PBKs, I will get the VCDs details and pass on to you. When I heard that VCD I was completely satisfied with the remembrance dilemma. Baba had finally cleared all my doubts when he said: “not Ram…remember Supreme Soul plus the body”...
arjun wrote:Who is always present in this world? It is ShivBaba only. Since Father Shiv returns to the Soul World soon after the establishment of the rule of Lakshmi and Narayan, it is His final Chariot, i.e. Prajapita Brahma, who remains in this world. It is he who plays the role of a Hero in this world. He plays an all-round part. So, he gets the title of ShivBaba when Father Shiv departs from this world.
Do you know .. Once, long time ago, I heard this explanation and wasn’t sure about its meaning and now you gave me the green light!

Thanks .. Many thanks .. Good day!

Surya Om Shanti

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Post by arjun » 12 Aug 2006

Actually I have never seen this point, but I don't have access to all Sakar Murlis. Is it possible for you to tell which Sakar Murli it is from?
Dear John Bhai,
Om Shanti. I have requested the nimitt sisters to provide the required Murli points. I would quote the same as soon as I receive them.
With regards,
OGS,
Arjun

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Post by surya » 12 Aug 2006

Dear Johnbhai,

ShivBaba...Supreme Soul plus body...explained on: VCD--Discussion-6 - Portugal, Canada, London, Malasia

2003.01.23 Revised Sakar Murli from BrahmaKumaris.Info
God speaks. God is teaching His children Raja Yoga and knowledge. This is not a human being.

Baba is called the Supreme Soul, the One who resides in the supreme abode (Paramdham). The soul remembers God through this body. Baba sits here and explains: I am your Father, the One who resides in Paramdham.
Om Shanti

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Post by arjun » 16 Aug 2006

John Bhai wrote:Actually I have never seen this point, but I don't have access to all Sakar Murlis. Is it possible for you to tell which Sakar Murli it is from?

I have seen in most Sakar Murlis reference is to ShivBaba as the Supreme Soul only. I have not yet seen a reference to ShivBaba meaning Supreme Soul in a body, are there any points in Sakar Murlis which explain the concept of ShivBaba being Supreme Soul plus the body(Chariot)?
Brother, I have received the Murli points from nimit sisters vide email no. 7037/06, which prove that ShivBaba and Shiv are different and that the name Shivabab is based on a body, while the name Shiv is only for the incorporeal point of light.

1. "ShivBaba naam shareer par padtaa hai. Parantu Parmaatma ka Shiv hee naam hai."
"ShivBaba name is based on the body. But the name of Supreme Soul is Shiv only."Sakar Murli dated 15.3.96

2. "Is srishti par koi bhi cheez sadaa kaayam hai nahee. Sadaa kaayam ek ShivBaba hee hai. Baaki toh sab ko neechey hee aana hai."
"Nothing is permanent in this world. It is ShivBaba alone who is permanent. All the remaining souls have to experience downfall." Sakar Murli dated 11.1.95

3. "Shiv arthaat bindi."
"Shiv means point." Sakar Murli dated 21.2.93

The soul which plays the role of Prajapita or ShivBaba also becomes Prajapita or ShivBaba only when the incorporeal Shiv enters into him. So incorporeal Shiv is more important than Prajapita or ShivBaba. But we children must remember that incorporeal Shiv through the corporeal body of Prajapita only.
With regards,
OGS,
Arjun

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