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A list of questions to the PBKs

Post by yogi108 » 18 Jan 2008

1. If Dada Lekhraj is coming and taking over Dadi Gulzar's body tonight (ie. 18th January) ... where is he coming from? Angelic world ... Or from another body?
2. Is Shiv Baba at that point in time speaking through Virendra Dev Dixit's body?
3. Are the Murlis conducted by Shiv Baba through Dixit's body only Shiva's words or is it that Dixit also speaks his own words?
4. What is the value addition of Virendra Dev Dixit in this period of Sangam Yuga?
5. What are Shiv Baba's notes on Destruction according to the PBKs?

I would like Brother Arjun or some one from the PBKs to enlighten me with some of these points.

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Post by arjun » 18 Jan 2008

yogi108 wrote:1. If Dada Lekhraj is coming and taking over Dadi Gulzar's body tonight (ie. 18th January) ... where is he coming from? Angelic world ... Or from another body?
2. Is Shiv Baba at that point in time speaking through Veerendra Dev Dixit's body?
3. Are the Murlis conducted by Shiv Baba through Dixit's body only Shiva's words or is it that Dixit also speaks his own words?
4. What is the value addition of Veerendra Dev Dixit in this period of Sangam Yuga?
5. What are Shiv Baba's notes on Destruction according to the PBKs?
1. Based on the advance knowledge received from ShivBaba (through Baba Virendra Dev Dixit) PBKs believe that the soul of Dada Lekhraj (Brahma Baba), after leaving its body, does not reside in Subtle Region, but is present in this world with a subtle body and doing service by entering into the bodies of Brahmin souls to inspire them or to fill them with (spiritual) force. His soul also enters into the body of Shankar (Baba Virendra Dev Dixit) to study the advance knowledge.

It is believed by PBKs that when Shiv through Shankar (Baba Virendra Dev Dixit) gives the clarification of Sakar Murlis/Avyakt Vanis published by BKs, it is the soul of Dada Lekhraj which reads the text and the Supreme Soul Shiv gives the clarification, while the soul of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit (i.e. the soul of Confluence-Aged Ram) remains in Baba's remembrance. So, when the soul of Dada Lekhraj enters the body of Dadi Gulzar, it is possible that he may have shifted from the body of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit or any other Brahmin soul.

2. It is possible that incorporeal Shiv could be speaking to PBKs at the time when Dada Lekhraj is speaking to BKs through Gulzar Dadi.

3. As mentioned in 1. above, when clarifications of Murlis are being narrated through the body of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit, it is basically the Supreme Soul Shiv who is clarifying, but the soul of Dada Lekhraj reads the text. So, he is also speaking in between. Even otherwise, it is possible that the soul of Dada Lekhraj may interfere to speak something. But when a specific reference is made about the personal life of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit, like his childhood, studies, parents, etc. then it is the soul of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit who is speaking.

4. By 'value addition' of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit in the Confluence Age, do you mean to ask about his contribution? If so, it is believed by the PBKs that he is the number one among all the human souls and the Father of all human souls and the highest effort-maker (purusharthi). It is also believed that he would get transformed from a man to Narayan in this birth itself without leaving his body like Dada Lekhraj. Ditto for other PBKs who would survive the final Destruction.

5. I cannot say anything for sure on the topic of Destruction, but based on the hints being given by ShivBaba (through Baba Virendra Dev Dixit) at present, the complete/final Destruction may take place by 2036. But partial Destruction/transformation may take place before that.

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Post by suryavanshi » 19 Jan 2008

Does Soul of Brahma (Dada Lekhraj) in the body of Virendra Dev Dixit know (or remember or realises) of his past birth as Brahma?
  • If yes, what is the proof?
    If no, what is the proof?

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Post by life » 10 Apr 2008

"But the issue of the time around the year 2000 isn’t the issue of Destruction of the whole world. Actually, it is the issue of destruction of the world within the Brahma Kumari Ashram".

This is a phrase from the downloaded material from the official website Aladhyathmik of the Shankar Party (the Advanced Party is different). I still do not see the Destruction of the brahma kumaris, its 2008.

Rather the GOD, with due respect, was sent to jail for tax evasion of upto 1 crore, 80 lac and 2 cases of rape were registered on God's name. A letter was sent to a minister in UP of how women were hypnotized there secrets known and blackmailed from one of the followers. All these reports are from a local newspaper available in the download section.

So new BKs who chance upon this site have faith in Shiv baba's words than any other person.

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Re: A list of questions to the PBKs

Post by arjun » 10 Apr 2008

life wrote:"But the issue of the time around the year 2000 isn’t the issue of destruction of the whole world. Actually, it is the issue of destruction of the world within the Brahma Kumari Ashram". This is a phrase from the downloaded material from the official website aladhyathmik of Shankar party(advanced party is different). I still do not see the destruction of the Brahma Kumaris its 2008.
Dear life,

Om Shanti and welcome to the forum. The Destruction mentioned in the above sentence is not physical destruction but in a metaphorical sense. And this destruction in metaphorical sense, i.e. disintegration of the Brahmin family has been going on since then.
Rather the GOD, with due respect, was sent to jail for tax evasion of upto 1cr 80 lac and 2 cases of rape were registered on GOD'S name. A letter was sent to a minister in UP of how women were hypnotized there secrets known and blackmailed from one of the followers. All these reports are from a local newspaper available in the download section.
The fact that Baba Virendra Dev Dixit was sent to jail is not new to this forum and has been intimated by the PBKs themselves many a times in various threads. As far as I know he was initially sent to jail on a frivolous charge of theft of electricity in a remote village of India which hardly gets any electricity supply. Later on various other charges were added to prevent him from getting released. As regards the charge of tax evasion, the matter is subjudice and hence I cannot comment. But if you want to verify this charge you are welcome to see for yourself the incompletely built building with hardly any modern facilities in respect of which the above tax has been imposed. The building was built completely by the PBKs with their own labour. There is hardly any ostentation like in the buildings constructed by the BKs. The building has not even been plastered completely.

As regards the rape charges, as far as I know he has been exonerated of these charges in most of the cases. If any case is still going on, I am not aware of the details.
So new BKs who chance upon this site have faith in Shiv Baba's words than any other person.
I don't have any objection if all BKs have faith in ShivBaba's words rather than any other person, but will you kindly help them/us in getting access to ShivBaba's words (in the form of Murlis) rather than making false allegations?

With regards,
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Post by yogi108 » 10 Apr 2008

Dear ALl,

I just had some questions and Arjun Bhai had answered them. Let's end the topic. I see members taking on the thread to add questions about VD, his arrest etc ... why do not they start separate threads for those?

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Re: A list of questions to the PBKs

Post by arjun » 13 Apr 2008

life wrote:"But the issue of the time around the year 2000 isn’t the issue of destruction of the whole world. Actually, it is the issue of destruction of the world within the Brahma Kumari Ashram".

Rhis is a phrase from the downloaded material from the official website aladhyathmik of Shankar party(advanced party is different). I still do not see the destruction of the Brahma Kumaris its 2008.

Rather the GOD, with due respect, was sent to jail for tax evasion of upto 1cr 80 lac and 2 cases of rape were registered on GOD'S name. A letter was sent to a minister in UP of how women were hypnotized there secrets known and blackmailed from one of the followers. All these reports are from a local newspaper available in the download section.
Dear brother life,
In the Disc.CD No.448 recorded at Urai (Jalaun) UP on 22.11.07, a PBK brother asked ShivBaba (through Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) almost the same question that you have asked. He was quoting a PBK literature that mentioned about the destruction in 2000. In the same CD the episode of Baba's arrest was also discussed.

I will request the nimit sisters to provide the written script of some of the Q&A of the above CD, but that may take a long time. Therefore, if you wish to know Baba's answers before that, you can see the CD. By the way, the above Disc.CD is very useful for any new PBK, especially those who run Gitapathshalas or intend to do so.

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Post by life » 14 Apr 2008

i will check it out. Thank you for the info.

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Re: A list of questions to the PBKs

Post by shivsena » 12 Jun 2009

arjun wrote:
Om Shanti and welcome to the forum. The Destruction mentioned in the above sentence is not physical destruction but in a metaphorical sense. And this destruction in metaphorical sense, i.e. disintegration of the Brahmin family has been going on since then.
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Dear arjun Bhai.

The destruction of 1976 mentioned repeatedly in the Murlis/Vanis and again the destruction of 2000 mentioned several times in Advance Course are they really metaphorical !!!!.... neither the complete destruction of BKs took place in 1976, nor the complete destruction of PBKs took place in 2000.

Also why should Shiva (ocean of knowledge) play games with the children twice, when it is said in Vanis that ''vinash ki date kabhi fix nahin ho sakti''.

Also has Shiva come from Paramdham to establish paradise or to destroy his own bk or pbk brahmins which HE is supposed to be creating from 1937 onwards. Are not mouth-born brahmins supposed to be immortal creation of immortal Father ???... unless of course no one has become a true mouth-born brahmin so far.

Can you please give your views.
shivsena.

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Re: A list of questions to the PBKs

Post by arjun » 15 Jun 2009

shivsena wrote:Also has Shiva come from Paramdham to establish paradise or to destroy his own BK or PBK Brahmins which HE is supposed to be creating from 1937 onwards.
Shiv doesn't destroy his creation, the mouth-born progeny. Will a Father kill his own children? No. The Brahmin family gets disintegrated when it reaches the tamopradhan (impure) stage.

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Post by shivsena » 15 Jun 2009

arjun wrote: The Brahmin family gets disintegrated when it reaches the tamopradhan (impure) stage.
This is what i wish to know: why does the brahmin family get disintegrated in presence of the omnipotent supreme Father???
I can understand the disintigration of family in the absence of the supreme Father, but not in HIS presence.

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Re: A list of questions to the PBKs

Post by shivsena » 23 Jun 2009

Dear arjun Bhai, indiana, and pbk brothers.

I have a very genuine query:

"Who are mukh-vanshavali(mouth-born) Brahmins and who are kukh-vanshavali(womb-born) Brahmins" ? (mentioned many times in Murlis).

Do PBKs consider themselves to be ''mukh-vanshavali brahmins'' !!!

Please give your views.
shivsena.

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Post by pbkindiana » 29 Jun 2009

shivsena wrote:

I have a very genuine query:

"Who are mukh-vanshavali(mouth-born) Brahmins and who are kukh-vanshavali(womb-born) Brahmins" ? (mentioned many times in Murlis).
mukh vanshavali brahmins are those who listen directly to ShivBaba's Murlis which hasn't commenced to-date and kukh-vanshavali brahmins are those who listen to what is being narrated by bodily beings.

Do PBKs consider themselves to be ''mukh-vanshavali Brahmins'' !!!
Whether they are mukh-vanshavali or not,that has nothing to do with you.

Om Shanti -- indie.

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Re: A list of questions to the PBKs

Post by shivsena » 29 Jun 2009

mukh vanshavali Brahmins are those who listen directly to ShivBaba's Murlis which hasn't commenced to-date and kukh-vanshavali Brahmins are those who listen to what is being narrated by bodily beings.
Dear indiana.

Thanks for your views.
So it means that at present both BKs and PBKs are kukh-vanshavali brahmins, since both are listening to bodily beings,(BKs listening to Dadis-Didis and PBKs listening to Baba dixit) and that true mukh-vanshavali brahmins will be born in future, only when sacchi Gita is narrated by Ram=shiv= Ramshivbaba.

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