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by Sach_Khand » 17 Sep 2010
I am writing my recent thoughts which seems very absurd, but I think that it cannot be ruled out.
Many times questions were raised in the forum brahmakumaris.info, which are also present in this forum, regarding the word "Shiv". It is written (based on the research they have made and proofs they have in the form of old BK literature) that in the early days of the yagnya the word "Shiv" was never used and was incorporated in the BK knowledge in the later stage. And in the old literature Prajapati Brahma (Dada Lekharaj) is shown as Gita Inventor (Gita gnyaan daata).
I feel that Dada Lekharaj is God, The Father.
In Bharat, it is beleived that God is not just incorporeal but is actually coproreal also. In Murlis too there are points such as,
Murli dt. 11-6-72, page 1: All know life story of Supreme Soul, that too not of one life, there is biography of ShivBaba of how many lives, you know. (Sabhi jaanate hain paramatma ki jeevan kahani, so bhi ek janm ki nahi, ShivBaba ke kitne kitne janmoon ki biography hai, tumko maloom hai.)
Murli dt. 12.10.02 (Murli Khand pg. 316): Here all three are combined. This is not written in any scriptures ( Shastras) that, only That is The lap of Father, Teacher and Preceptor (Guru). Father has asked "Does ShivBaba has Father?" Says yes. O.K., ShivBaba has Teacher? Has Preceptor (Guru)? No. Only gets Mother - Father. This is secret calculation ( or rule or method).
I think that Mama Saraswati is Bharat and also Dada or elder brother (based on the capability of knowledge).
The word "Shiva" was introduced by Mama (as she too used to speak through the body of Dada Lekharaj). And all the knowledge that we read in present Murlis is the picture of the later days that were to come (i.e. the present days). And Murlis actually apply to the present days.
And presently Dada Lekharaj has become Nirakar and plays ShivBaba. And Mama is Dada or big brother. And the Chariot which is The Chariot of both is Prajapita. And through that Chariot Dada Lekharaj plays the part of ShivBaba and Mama Saraswati plays the part of Prajapita. And this charitot is the Chariot of Mama Saraswati (male Chariot) which is given to ShivBaba to play His part. And this is the combined form Maat - Pita and Bap - Dada.
In Murlis we hear about discussion going on between two which is told to the children sitting in front of them. It is the discussion between Dada Lekharaj and Mama Saraswati. And since Mama Saraswati had the knowledge of Herself as The God, it took so long to convince the Mama soul about it's part and The Part of God, The Father (Dada Lekharaj). Concept of nirakar incorporeal Shiv was introduced by Mama Saraswati, because that soul could not accept so easily that God, The Father can also be human, but still God, The Father. And whole Murli is just the Teacher (God, The Father) trying to convince the student (Mama Saraswati) about His role and the role which is to be played in future days (i.e., present days).
Regarding subtle Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar, they are three different souls who does not take physcial birth since 1936 and are presently in subtle form.
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Sanjeev.
