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I am astonished to see that my post on " Science and Vishnu Party" has been removed. Just to make all PBK/BK and ex-BK communities aware of this.

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My Post on " Science and Vishnu Party" Removed

Post by beejroop » 04 Jul 2007

I am surprised to see that my post on " Science and Vishnu Party" Removed. I am posting this to make all BKs/PBKs and Ex-BKs aware of this.

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Science and Knowledge of Vishnu Party

Post by beejroop » 04 Jul 2007

For the spiritual benefit of all brothers and sisters I am reposting the " Science and Vishnu Party"

Dear PBKs/BKs and Ex-BKs

If you really want to understand the depth of knowledge of Vishnu Party you should brush your fundamentals of Quantum Physics and Energy Physics. Whatever theory has been propounded for the matter and energy in quantum physics and energy physics is analogous to what the Parampita says in the Knowledge of Vishnu Party .

I was in the BK for a substantial period since 1984 and in PBK since 1999 and now just two days back I have gone through the knowledge of Vishnu Party and it is my experience of last two days which I am experiencing through my " vichar sagar manthan of science" and gaining sweet meditational experience through the knowledge of Vishnu Party, I can certainly say that it is the " True Knowledge".

As matter changes form , it releases energy, similarly souls get created from Supreme Father(Supreme Soul who is in the subtle light point) and release energy towards slow degeneration to lower levels of existences. As there are different levels of electron clouds around the atom's nucleus ( matter) , similarly there are different levels of energy of souls around Supreme Father( Positive being male and negative being females as they have subtle and causal bodies). To elevate from one energy level to the higher energy level you need to absorb extra energy in case of material energy. Similar is applicable in case of becoming deity( Higher Level) from mankind ( Lower Level)and further up towards origin. This

There is a science of time also. As in the case of decay of material its take millions of years for radioactive material ( depending on half life) to release energy and obtain its half mass. Similar is true for soul which degenerates over a period of millions of years.Within 5000 years of drama cycle or Kalap it is not possible for the complete creation from the original source ( Supreme Soul). Now has the time come when the complete creation has been established on this earth and time for rejuvenation has come which will take the same time through which it was created .

We all have one source of creation that is " Supreme Soul" and He further creates into many souls and those souls further creates down and each time each level having lesser energy than the higher level. As electrons release energy when it comes down from higher level to lower level , similarly souls releases energy if it falls from higher level to lower level. And that energy further degrades " Prakruti" or " Nature".

Vishnu Party's knowledge can only be revealed by someone who knows the complete process of degeneration and regeneration of soul and matter. ( I mean to say complete process and notjust a few steps as is in the case of BK and PBK).

Its purely scientific and Einstein's equation E=hv can be related to it where v is the frequency, E is the energy at a particular state , say Devta State or Man State or Demon State . v is the frequency of thought. Science has well established that thought is sent through waves and wave has a frequency. So to go to higher energy level one should imbibe very intense positive thoughts through some energy source which can be imbibed by getting rays from the lokas above Brahmapuri, Vishnupuri and Shankar Puri i.e. from Moolwatan and from beyond that which is Paramdham depending on one's desire of connectivity . We can get linked to those lokas similar to we get linked to each other in tangible world ( Sthool World) through wireless communication. such as internet , mobile, bluetooth , infrared etc.. The intensity of communication between lokas is dependent on the purity of the sender and purity of the receiver( its again a matter of scale where the communicators stand). If we connect ourselves to the right loka or right origin from where we have come we will get the immense ecstasy by getting the right kind of element within our causal body( As you might be aware Sakshi has already told you all that we have three bodies ). The purer are you , the better connect you will have with the higher lokas. So please check your mind's level of purity before arguing as you might be guided by some impure powerful souls in lower lokas. May be you are being guided by some negative spirits. It is a matter of power of silence in which you will see your mirror image and can judge your self well whether this knowledge is applicable to you and that will establish how much close you were with the Supreme Soul in the past.Your level of transformation will depend how much pure energy you imbibe from the right source. Churning useless thoughts will keep you at only the same level and will not help you imbibing right elements from supreme Father to get transformed yourself and then the world.

A lot can be inferred and experienced through Vishnu Party's knowledge if you are truly scientific , logical as well as spiritual. There is nothing against BK, PBK or anybody else. Only thing I want to say that plaese get the full knowledge first and then experience it and then you will see your all queries (being guided by some negative forces in the guise of being logical )gets resolved like melting of solid iron.

You are the best judge of yourself, as you have to transform yourself first .

Param Shanti

Beejroop

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Science and True Spiritual Knowledge

Post by beejroop » 04 Jul 2007

For the spiritual benefit of all brothers and sisters I am reposting the " Science and Vishnu Party"

Dear PBKs/BKs and Ex-BKs

If you really want to understand the depth of knowledge of Vishnu Party you should brush your fundamentals of Quantum Physics and Energy Physics. Whatever theory has been propounded for the matter and energy in quantum physics and energy physics is analogous to what the Parampita says in the Knowledge of Vishnu Party .

I was in the BK for a substantial period since 1984 and in PBK since 1999 and now just two days back I have gone through the knowledge of Vishnu Party and it is my experience of last two days which I am experiencing through my " vichar sagar manthan of science" and gaining sweet meditational experience through the knowledge of Vishnu Party, I can certainly say that it is the " True Knowledge".

As matter changes form , it releases energy, similarly souls get created from Supreme Father(Supreme Soul who is in the subtle light point) and release energy towards slow degeneration to lower levels of existences. As there are different levels of electron clouds around the atom's nucleus ( matter) , similarly there are different levels of energy of souls around Supreme Father( Positive being male and negative being females as they have subtle and causal bodies). To elevate from one energy level to the higher energy level you need to absorb extra energy in case of material energy. Similar is applicable in case of becoming deity( Higher Level) from mankind ( Lower Level)and further up towards origin. This

There is a science of time also. As in the case of decay of material its take millions of years for radioactive material ( depending on half life) to release energy and obtain its half mass. Similar is true for soul which degenerates over a period of millions of years.Within 5000 years of drama cycle or Kalap it is not possible for the complete creation from the original source ( Supreme Soul). Now has the time come when the complete creation has been established on this earth and time for rejuvenation has come which will take the same time through which it was created .

We all have one source of creation that is " Supreme Soul" and He further creates into many souls and those souls further creates down and each time each level having lesser energy than the higher level. As electrons release energy when it comes down from higher level to lower level , similarly souls releases energy if it falls from higher level to lower level. And that energy further degrades " Prakruti" or " Nature".

Vishnu Party's knowledge can only be revealed by someone who knows the complete process of degeneration and regeneration of soul and matter. ( I mean to say complete process and notjust a few steps as is in the case of BK and PBK).

Its purely scientific and Einstein's equation E=hv can be related to it where v is the frequency, E is the energy at a particular state , say Devta State or Man State or Demon State . v is the frequency of thought. Science has well established that thought is sent through waves and wave has a frequency. So to go to higher energy level one should imbibe very intense positive thoughts through some energy source which can be imbibed by getting rays from the lokas above Brahmapuri, Vishnupuri and Shankar Puri i.e. from Moolwatan and from beyond that which is Paramdham depending on one's desire of connectivity . We can get linked to those lokas similar to we get linked to each other in tangible world ( Sthool World) through wireless communication. such as internet , mobile, bluetooth , infrared etc.. The intensity of communication between lokas is dependent on the purity of the sender and purity of the receiver( its again a matter of scale where the communicators stand). If we connect ourselves to the right loka or right origin from where we have come we will get the immense ecstasy by getting the right kind of element within our causal body( As you might be aware Sakshi has already told you all that we have three bodies ). The purer are you , the better connect you will have with the higher lokas. So please check your mind's level of purity before arguing as you might be guided by some impure powerful souls in lower lokas. May be you are being guided by some negative spirits. It is a matter of power of silence in which you will see your mirror image and can judge your self well whether this knowledge is applicable to you and that will establish how much close you were with the Supreme Soul in the past.Your level of transformation will depend how much pure energy you imbibe from the right source. Churning useless thoughts will keep you at only the same level and will not help you imbibing right elements from supreme Father to get transformed yourself and then the world.

A lot can be inferred and experienced through Vishnu Party's knowledge if you are truly scientific , logical as well as spiritual. There is nothing against BK, PBK or anybody else. Only thing I want to say that plaese get the full knowledge first and then experience it and then you will see your all queries (being guided by some negative forces in the guise of being logical )gets resolved like melting of solid iron.

You are the best judge of yourself, as you have to transform yourself first .

Param Shanti

Beejroop

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Science and True Spiritual Knowledge

Post by beejroop » 04 Jul 2007

For the spiritual benefit of all brothers and sisters I am reposting the " Science and Vishnu Party"

Dear PBKs/BKs and Ex-BKs

If you really want to understand the depth of knowledge of Vishnu Party you should brush your fundamentals of Quantum Physics and Energy Physics. Whatever theory has been propounded for the matter and energy in quantum physics and energy physics is analogous to what the Parampita says in the Knowledge of Vishnu Party .

I was in the BK for a substantial period since 1984 and in PBK since 1999 and now just two days back I have gone through the knowledge of Vishnu Party and it is my experience of last two days which I am experiencing through my " vichar sagar manthan of science" and gaining sweet meditational experience through the knowledge of Vishnu Party, I can certainly say that it is the " True Knowledge".

As matter changes form , it releases energy, similarly souls get created from Supreme Father(Supreme Soul who is in the subtle light point) and release energy towards slow degeneration to lower levels of existences. As there are different levels of electron clouds around the atom's nucleus ( matter) , similarly there are different levels of energy of souls around Supreme Father( Positive being male and negative being females as they have subtle and causal bodies). To elevate from one energy level to the higher energy level you need to absorb extra energy in case of material energy. Similar is applicable in case of becoming deity( Higher Level) from mankind ( Lower Level)and further up towards origin. This

There is a science of time also. As in the case of decay of material its take millions of years for radioactive material ( depending on half life) to release energy and obtain its half mass. Similar is true for soul which degenerates over a period of millions of years.Within 5000 years of drama cycle or Kalap it is not possible for the complete creation from the original source ( Supreme Soul). Now has the time come when the complete creation has been established on this earth and time for rejuvenation has come which will take the same time through which it was created .

We all have one source of creation that is " Supreme Soul" and He further creates into many souls and those souls further creates down and each time each level having lesser energy than the higher level. As electrons release energy when it comes down from higher level to lower level , similarly souls releases energy if it falls from higher level to lower level. And that energy further degrades " Prakruti" or " Nature".

Vishnu Party's knowledge can only be revealed by someone who knows the complete process of degeneration and regeneration of soul and matter. ( I mean to say complete process and notjust a few steps as is in the case of BK and PBK).

Its purely scientific and Einstein's equation E=hv can be related to it where v is the frequency, E is the energy at a particular state , say Devta State or Man State or Demon State . v is the frequency of thought. Science has well established that thought is sent through waves and wave has a frequency. So to go to higher energy level one should imbibe very intense positive thoughts through some energy source which can be imbibed by getting rays from the lokas above Brahmapuri, Vishnupuri and Shankar Puri i.e. from Moolwatan and from beyond that which is Paramdham depending on one's desire of connectivity . We can get linked to those lokas similar to we get linked to each other in tangible world ( Sthool World) through wireless communication. such as internet , mobile, bluetooth , infrared etc.. The intensity of communication between lokas is dependent on the purity of the sender and purity of the receiver( its again a matter of scale where the communicators stand). If we connect ourselves to the right loka or right origin from where we have come we will get the immense ecstasy by getting the right kind of element within our causal body( As you might be aware Sakshi has already told you all that we have three bodies ). The purer are you , the better connect you will have with the higher lokas. So please check your mind's level of purity before arguing as you might be guided by some impure powerful souls in lower lokas. May be you are being guided by some negative spirits. It is a matter of power of silence in which you will see your mirror image and can judge your self well whether this knowledge is applicable to you and that will establish how much close you were with the Supreme Soul in the past.Your level of transformation will depend how much pure energy you imbibe from the right source. Churning useless thoughts will keep you at only the same level and will not help you imbibing right elements from supreme Father to get transformed yourself and then the world.

A lot can be inferred and experienced through Vishnu Party's knowledge if you are truly scientific , logical as well as spiritual. There is nothing against BK, PBK or anybody else. Only thing I want to say that plaese get the full knowledge first and then experience it and then you will see your all queries (being guided by some negative forces in the guise of being logical )gets resolved like melting of solid iron.

You are the best judge of yourself, as you have to transform yourself first .

Param Shanti

Beejroop

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Science and True Spiritual Knowledge

Post by beejroop » 04 Jul 2007

For the spiritual benefit of all brothers and sisters I am reposting the " Science and Vishnu Party"

Dear PBKs/BKs and Ex-BKs

If you really want to understand the depth of knowledge of Vishnu Party you should brush your fundamentals of Quantum Physics and Energy Physics. Whatever theory has been propounded for the matter and energy in quantum physics and energy physics is analogous to what the Parampita says in the Knowledge of Vishnu Party .

I was in the BK for a substantial period since 1984 and in PBK since 1999 and now just two days back I have gone through the knowledge of Vishnu Party and it is my experience of last two days which I am experiencing through my " vichar sagar manthan of science" and gaining sweet meditational experience through the knowledge of Vishnu Party, I can certainly say that it is the " True Knowledge".

As matter changes form , it releases energy, similarly souls get created from Supreme Father(Supreme Soul who is in the subtle light point) and release energy towards slow degeneration to lower levels of existences. As there are different levels of electron clouds around the atom's nucleus ( matter) , similarly there are different levels of energy of souls around Supreme Father( Positive being male and negative being females as they have subtle and causal bodies). To elevate from one energy level to the higher energy level you need to absorb extra energy in case of material energy. Similar is applicable in case of becoming deity( Higher Level) from mankind ( Lower Level)and further up towards origin. This

There is a science of time also. As in the case of decay of material its take millions of years for radioactive material ( depending on half life) to release energy and obtain its half mass. Similar is true for soul which degenerates over a period of millions of years.Within 5000 years of drama cycle or Kalap it is not possible for the complete creation from the original source ( Supreme Soul). Now has the time come when the complete creation has been established on this earth and time for rejuvenation has come which will take the same time through which it was created .

We all have one source of creation that is " Supreme Soul" and He further creates into many souls and those souls further creates down and each time each level having lesser energy than the higher level. As electrons release energy when it comes down from higher level to lower level , similarly souls releases energy if it falls from higher level to lower level. And that energy further degrades " Prakruti" or " Nature".

Vishnu Party's knowledge can only be revealed by someone who knows the complete process of degeneration and regeneration of soul and matter. ( I mean to say complete process and notjust a few steps as is in the case of BK and PBK).

Its purely scientific and Einstein's equation E=hv can be related to it where v is the frequency, E is the energy at a particular state , say Devta State or Man State or Demon State . v is the frequency of thought. Science has well established that thought is sent through waves and wave has a frequency. So to go to higher energy level one should imbibe very intense positive thoughts through some energy source which can be imbibed by getting rays from the lokas above Brahmapuri, Vishnupuri and Shankar Puri i.e. from Moolwatan and from beyond that which is Paramdham depending on one's desire of connectivity . We can get linked to those lokas similar to we get linked to each other in tangible world ( Sthool World) through wireless communication. such as internet , mobile, bluetooth , infrared etc.. The intensity of communication between lokas is dependent on the purity of the sender and purity of the receiver( its again a matter of scale where the communicators stand). If we connect ourselves to the right loka or right origin from where we have come we will get the immense ecstasy by getting the right kind of element within our causal body( As you might be aware Sakshi has already told you all that we have three bodies ). The purer are you , the better connect you will have with the higher lokas. So please check your mind's level of purity before arguing as you might be guided by some impure powerful souls in lower lokas. May be you are being guided by some negative spirits. It is a matter of power of silence in which you will see your mirror image and can judge your self well whether this knowledge is applicable to you and that will establish how much close you were with the Supreme Soul in the past.Your level of transformation will depend how much pure energy you imbibe from the right source. Churning useless thoughts will keep you at only the same level and will not help you imbibing right elements from supreme Father to get transformed yourself and then the world.

A lot can be inferred and experienced through Vishnu Party's knowledge if you are truly scientific , logical as well as spiritual. There is nothing against BK, PBK or anybody else. Only thing I want to say that plaese get the full knowledge first and then experience it and then you will see your all queries (being guided by some negative forces in the guise of being logical )gets resolved like melting of solid iron.

You are the best judge of yourself, as you have to transform yourself first .

Param Shanti

Beejroop

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Post by new world » 04 Jul 2007

Dear brother beejroop, I do not understand why you have posted this article in PBK forum? Dear administrator please shift this thread to commonroom or splinter BK groups.

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Post by admin » 09 Jul 2007

This topic is now closed and Vishnu Party members suspended.

The reasons for this numerous. The Vishnu Party have taking a large amount of moderators time and energy both in supporting their lack of English and formatting abilities whilst distracting from the main purpose of this forum. They were even offered the courtesy of having criticisms removed from their topic, a courtesty offered to no others.

Whilst claiming 'on forum' to wish to build bridges with the PBKs, at the same time 'off forum' they were at length attempting to slander Virendra Dev Dixit and the PBKs to forum administrators with incomplete and unsubstantial evidence. The forum and individual members have been subjected to a charade of user accounts. And, from other evidence received, it would appear that either the Vishnu Party, or its founder and his agents, were directly involved in attacks on the PBK group. Their beliefs would appear to exist too far outside of the remit of this website.

We are grateful for their input, as it exposes an element of the BK world as it is in India and the nature of BK/PBK splinter groups and their relationships, but for purely practical reasons, this cannot continue and we are unwilling to allow the forum to be used for their publicity purposes. If existing member have any further historical details about the Vishnu Party to document, then they are welcome to do so elsewhere.

If any members feel strongly against this action, please contact us and we will reconsider it.

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ask pbk ?

Post by destroy old world » 09 Jul 2007

hi, brother and sisters,


what is the income source of pbk , what bussness carried on by bab v . dixit ? to cheat the people ? or any thing else ?

what type of knowledg he impart ? his biogarphi is totally false. he is the big lire.


Father change daily mother , is he Father ?

i want to know that where is your divine mother kamla dixit , i have come to know that she get married with driver mahendra Patel , after that your mother not found any where.

i want to see your mother photo. where is she and what is her history .


i think that v.dixit change the mother . now he is waiting for Vedanti , is it true.

i have come to know that v.dixit 1st wife was prem kanta after that when she became handicap he change new one . and kamala disit became 2nd mother.

now she left pbk and v.dixit found 3rd one named Vedanti.


how many mother you have ? Father change daily mother , is he Father ?

pls tell me who is next ?


pls kindly answer , if you have.

satish groop

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Post by new world » 11 Jul 2007

Dear administrators, please cut one of (re-posted) article entitled 'science & the true spiritual knowledge' posted by beejroop & please creat a separate thread, as that's a great invention which can add intellectualism to this forum. That's one of the greatest spirituo-scientific work.

Another reason for my request is that I wish to develop that article by postulating
1) 'The Law of Conservation of Material & Spiritual Entities',
2) 'The Law of Conversion of Material (Mass + Energy) & Spiritual Entities into each other,
3) the Spirituo-scientific Interpretation of 'The Unified Field Theory' in which I am going to prove that the material as well as spiritual world has created through the same source of origin & that matter & life could be interpreted under the same theoritual background.

Dear admin, your decission is final.

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Post by mr green » 13 Aug 2007

  • • Don't worry if your hands slip down below the waist at night time.

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Post by fluffy bunny » 13 Aug 2007

mr green wrote:Don't worry if your hands slip down below the waist at night time.
I suppose I should ask, "whose waist" ... but I fear that you are not engaging in the sincere spirit of this thread mr green. Note to moderator; Please move this post as required.

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Post by fluffy bunny » 16 Aug 2007

BKTi-Pit wrote:I heard a few years ago Sister Denise mentioning that ethics was not a strength of the Indian culture ...
Interesting ... yes, possibly it is a pay off for the need for pluralism that there is not a sort of moral backbone. As we are really talking about those with vested interests, it would have profited them to have been "flexible". I also think, "as are the Gods, so are the people; as are the people, so are the gods". I would need to study that and ask for other's opinion, e.g. the Sikhs stereotype doesn't really fit into that mould nor would those NE.

I think we would need to define terms VERY specifically and carefully. We might just be talking about Gujeratis or merchant class or Delhi dwellers or Indian Brahma Kumaris. It is hard to define 1 Billion people. It may just be the "secret service" mode of the Indian Brahma Kumaris that create this impression as a next best and improvement to the general levels of corruption.

I find it all so malleable (capable of being extended, shaped, or otherwise deformed without breaking) which leaves it open to abuse. I also see that the BKWSU in the West has its roots in a rootless, alien, immigrant people most of whom for a hundred years have been moved or chased from place to place (Sind to India, Gujerat to Africa, Caribbean then to the West). That would color one's experience and expression ... defensiveness, guile, the suitcase behind the door, the wealth in an easily portable, unaccountable form, bets spread widely.

I find it interesting to peel back the veneer that the leading corporate Western BKs are desperate to apply; see its real colors and smell the spice.

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