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Re: BK Janki Dadiji leaves her body

Post by arjun » 07 Apr 2020

Zero zero is free to follow the path of Bhakti continuing in the BKWSU and become hero-hero. I wish him/her all the best. :D

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Post by destroy old world » 11 Apr 2020

arjun wrote:
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Zero zero is free to follow the path of Bhakti continuing in the BKWSU and become hero-hero. I wish him/her all the best. :D
We have been cautioned and warned several times by the previous Admin, and the current Admin/SAT, not to resort to any personal accusations, or personal insults, either direct or implied, involving any registered member/members of this forum, to maintain an acceptable code of conduct, and to follow the SAT guidelines with regard to this issue. We would like to clarify that we had/have no intention of willfully accusing/insulting any registered member.

In our earlier interactions with Bro Arjun, we had endeavoured to discourage, what we considered to be defamation/insult of Incorporeal God Father Shiva, and His appointed Chariot, Brahma Baba, for his very own ultimate benefit. Our intention was to disarm the negative/devilish personality within that particular individual, with the benevolent aim of supporting the positive/divine personality within the same individual, to ultimately assist his divine personality in achieving victory over his devilish personality, which currently has a stranglehold over him - according to our humble perception! Any ill-feelings which may have arisen within any individual, in this process, are regretted, and we do apologise for same - both to Bro Arjun, and to all the others concerned, who may have felt that we acted aggressively/indecently/inappropriately/etc., in our interaction with Bro Arjun earlier!

We would now like to present our humble observations with regard to this topic, commenced by Bro Arjun – with no intention, whatsoever, of insulting him, or anyone else; but with the sole intention of presenting our own viewpoint, only for the benefit of those who may be interested in same. We trust the current Admin/SAT would not consider this to be a willful accusation/insult of anyone!

One would naturally wonder why Bro Arjun, who professes to be a PBK, was interested so much in starting a new topic viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2731#p54898 , regarding the concerned head of the BK Organization, in the first place. It later became clear, through his post viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2731#p54905 , that his hidden intention was actually to criticize the motives and code of conduct of the BKs, and the concerned instrumental administrative heads, and sarcastically ridicule them - owing to his mistaken and erroneous notions and belief system, with which he has been indoctrinated by his bodily guru, Baba Dixit, over a very long period of time. The correct perspective was later highlighted by Bro Zero Zero in his post viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2731#p54925 , after which Bro Arjun simply vomited a point from a ‘Sakar’ Murli in his post viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2731#p54933 , along with the usual corrupted & distorted interpretation of same, with which he has been indoctrinated - without bothering to use his own individual, independent intellectual ability to discriminate falsehood from the actual truth – which Bro Zero Zero pointed out in his subsequent post viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2731#p54942 , to which Bro Arjun sheepishly responded with his usual sarcasm, having failed to appreciate the truth - or at least another perspective of the truth - and give due credence to same, even if he was not in a position to agree with same, himself.

His subsequent posts viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2731#p54921 , viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2731#p54922 , viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2731#p54923 , viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2731#p54924 , are all actually meant to deride and ridicule, both the departed noble soul of Dadi Janki, as well as the duly appointed instrumental embodied noble souls of the Yagya of Incorporeal God Father Shiva – as he has been prone to doing in the past, under the evil influence of his bodily guru, Baba Dixit! = See point below =

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2730&p=54875&hilit=coloured#p54875
बहुत हैं जो संग ही ऐसा करते हैं, जिनका रंग भी उल्टा चढ़ जाता है। गाया भी जाता है, ‘संग तारे कुसंग बोरे’। कुसंग लगा तो एकदम खत्म कर देंगे। घर में भी दास-दासियां चाहिए। प्रजा के भी नौकर चाकर सब चाहिए ना। यह सारी राजधानी स्थापन हो रही है, इसमें बड़ी विशालबुद्धि चाहिए; इसलिए बेहद का बाप मिला है, तो श्रीमत ले, उस पर चलो। नहीं तो मुफ्त पद भ्रष्ट हो जायेंगे। यह पढ़ाई है। इसमें अभी फेल हुए तो जन्म-जन्मान्तर, कल्प-कल्पान्तर फेल होते रहेंगे। अच्छी रीति पढ़ेंगे तो कल्प-कल्पान्तर अच्छी रीति पढ़ते रहेंगे।
There are many who keep such company that they are coloured in the wrong way. It is also remembered – ‘good company takes you across; bad company drowns you’. If bad company influences you, you will be completely destroyed. In a home too, maids and servants are needed. Servants are also needed for the subjects, are they not? A whole kingdom is being established. Very broad intellects are needed for this. Therefore, now that you have found the unlimited Father, take Shrimat from Him and follow it. Otherwise, your status will be destroyed for nothing. This is a study. If you fail in this now, you will continue to fail for birth after birth, cycle after cycle. If you study well now, you will continue to study well, cycle after cycle.

See earlier post of Bro Arjun in another topic, related to his above mischievous tendency, below -
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arjun wrote:
02 Dec 2014
... If they are really soul conscious can they wear coloured saris like normal people of the world???? I don't think any of the surrendered BK sisters all over the world have the spiritual strength to wear coloured dresses. All their soul consciousness will vanish if they are asked to wear coloured dress.
Besides being spiritually blind and completely spiritually ignorant, he appears to by physically blind also, since he is not able to see that all of them are NOT wearing coloured saris, but white saris. They have been decorated with coloured crowns and garlands, being the handicrafts made by BK crafts-persons from cheap, readily available materials – but they are still wearing white saris. They wear white saris as a matter of personal choice, to maintain within themselves a sense of purity, and to be constantly aware that they have to develop the purity of the soul – and not as matter of compulsion, since God Father Shiva has not compelled anyone to wear white dresses. = See point below =

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2730&p=54881&hilit=coloured#p54881
गृहस्थ व्यवहार में भी तो बहुत ही रहते हैं। सबको यहाँ तो नहीं बैठना है। गृहस्थ व्यवहार में रहो, भल रंगीन कपड़े पहनो; कौन कहता है सफेद कपड़े पहनो? बाबा ने कभी किसको कहा नहीं है। तुमको अच्छा नहीं लगता है तब सफेद कपड़े पहने हैं। यहाँ तुम भल सफेद वस्त्र पहनकर रहते हो, लेकिन रंगीन कपड़े पहनने वाले, उस ड्रेस में भी बहुतों का कल्याण कर सकते हैं।
Many live at home within the house-hold. Not everyone can sit here (in Madhuban). Stay within the house-hold; you may wear coloured clothes. Who says that you have to wear white clothes? Baba has never told anyone this. It is because you do not like them (coloured clothes) that you wear white clothes. Although, whilst living here, you wear white clothes, those who wear coloured clothes can still benefit many in that (coloured) dress.

With regard to being decorated with deity costumes – this is done, once again, to maintain within themselves a sense of becoming a future deity, and to be constantly aware that they have to develop the purity of the soul quickly, to be able to achieve a deity status as soon as possible. This has been advocated by Incorporeal God Father Shiva several times in the ‘Sakar’ Murlis – even to make a COMPLETE royal dress for oneself! = See points below =

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14 Sep 2016
भल अपना चित्र और राजाई का चित्र भी साथ में निकालो। नीचे तुम्हारा चित्र ऊपर राजाई का चित्र हो, इसमें खर्च तो है नहीं। राजाई पोशाक तो झट बन सकती है। वह अपने पास रख दो तो घड़ी-घड़ी याद आता रहेगा। हम सो देवता बन रहे हैं।
Do take a picture of yourself, TOGETHER with the picture of your sovereignty. At the bottom, there should be your (ordinary) picture, and above that, there should be a picture of your sovereignty. There is not much expense in this. A royal dress can be made very quickly. Keep that with You, and You will repeatedly remember that You are becoming deities.

यह सब चित्र निकालने होंगे। हम मनुष्य से देवता बनते हैं। यह शरीर छोड़ हम जाकर देवता बनेंगे, क्योंकि अभी यह राजयोग सीख रहे हैं। तो यह फोटो मदद करेंगे।
You should make all these pictures. We are changing from humans into deities. We will shed these bodies and become deities because we are NOW STUDYING this RajYog. These photos will help You.

चित्र देख बच्चों को नशा चढ़ेगा। भल दुकान में भी यह चित्र रख दो।
When You children look at these pictures You will feel intoxicated. You can also place these pictures in the workplace.

तुम भी अपना फोटो रख दो, तो याद रहेगा कि हम सो देवी-देवता बन रहे हैं। बाप को याद करने का उपाय ढूँढना चाहिए।
You too should keep your photo (in a royal dress), and You will remember that You are becoming deities. You should try and find a way to remember the Father.
One should know when to decorate oneself, for the sole purpose of enhancing the awareness of soul-consciousness and deity consciousness – without over-indulgence in same!
One should also know when to keep a photo of Brahma Baba, with the specific aim, to follow Father Brahma (soul of Lekhraj Kirpalani) – and when NOT to keep the photo of Brahma Baba, to prevent the deterioration of self-awareness into gurudom. One action should NOT be confounded with the other action – as the PBKs have been consistently indoctrinated into doing by their bodily guru, Baba Dixit, owing to his complete ignorance about the actual intent behind the various actions and codes of conduct of the duly appointed administrative heads of the BK Organization (‘Pandav Government’), and the BKs! = See point below =

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बाप ने समझाया है तुम्हारे पर 63 जन्मों के पाप हैं। पाप करते-करते सतोप्रधान से तमोप्रधान बन पड़े हो। अब मेरा बनकर फिर कोई पाप कर्म नहीं करो। झूठ, शैतानी, घर फिटाना, सुनी सुनाई बातों पर विश्वास करना - यह धूतीपना बड़ा नुकसानकारक है। बाप से योग ही तुड़ा देता है, तो कितना पाप हो गया। गवर्मेन्ट के भी धूते होते हैं, गवर्मेन्ट की बात किसी दुश्मन को सुनाए, बड़ा नुकसान करते हैं। तो फिर उन्हों को बड़ी कड़ी सजा मिलती है। तो बच्चों के मुख से सदैव ज्ञान रत्न निकलने चाहिए। उल्टा-सुल्टा समाचार भी एक-दो से पूछना नहीं चाहिए। ज्ञान की बातें ही करनी चाहिए।
The Father has explained to you that there are the sins of 63 births over you. From satopradhan, you have become tamopradhan by committing sin. Now that you belong to Me, do not perform any sinful actions. To lie, to be devilish, to break up homes (DECEIVE BKs with the CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED PBK knowledge), to trust in hearsay (from Baba Dixit) – such knavery causes a great deal of loss. It breaks your Yoga away from the Father (Shiva). Therefore, that is a great deal of sin. Some people (PBKs) betray their (‘Pandav’) Government (BKs). They give away Government secrets to the enemy (Baba Dixit, who is carrying out the shooting of Ravan Rajya) and cause a great loss. Therefore, they are punished very severely (they get divorced from the true Father). There should constantly be jewels of knowledge emerging from the mouths of you children. You must not even ask one another about conflicting news (or propagate same). Only speak about aspects of (Pure, UNADULTERATED) knowledge.

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Re: BK Janki Dadiji leaves her body

Post by arjun » 11 Apr 2020

Dear destroy old world,

Thanks for giving such a long (multi-paragraph) response to my one liner. May you continue to prove your greater soul consciousness with such responses. Om Shanti. :D

OGS,
Arjun

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Re: BK Janki Dadiji leaves her body

Post by arjun » 13 Apr 2020

BKWSU showed an extra eagerness in erecting a memorial for Dadi Janaki as well and named it Shakti Stambh (tower of might). Memorial of Brahma Baba was named 'Shaanti stambh' (tower of peace) and the memorial of Dadi Prakashmani was named Prakash Stambh (tower of light). But in their extra eagerness to garner TRPs, they telecast the event live and as usual most senior BKs are eager to get themselves filmed/aired on TV and forgot to maintain social distancing and the number of persons allowed for a social event (i.e. 20) and perhaps on the basis of complaints from members of public, the Aburoad Administration has sealed the campus of BKWSU (Shantivan) at Aburoad. All this despite repeated requests from the announcer at the class almost everyday that BKs should maintain social distancing. They should have avoided telecasting the event live to avoid such embarrassment. Drama.

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Re: BK Janki Dadiji leaves her body

Post by Zero Zero » 13 Apr 2020

When one Googles, “Have Abu Road Authorities sealed the campus of BKWSU at Shantivan, due to corona virus?”, the words ‘authorities’, ‘sealed’, ‘BKWSU’, ‘corona virus’, etc., show as ‘deleted’ in the ‘Missing’ field, at the bottom of each related site – perhaps indicating that, there is no such information available in the public domain.

Perhaps respected Bro Arjun could enlighten everyone on this forum as to the actual source of his information, with regard to his claim of “the Aburoad Administration being compelled to seal the campus of BKWSU (Shantivan) at Aburoad” - whether same is factual, or just based on hearsay and false propaganda of the PBKs?

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Re: BK Janki Dadiji leaves her body

Post by arjun » 15 Apr 2020

Lockdown violation by BKWSU.jpg

The news reported by me was not based on hearsay, but was published in a Hindi Newspaper published locally in Aburoad, Rajasthan. The name of the Newspaper is perhaps 'Dainik Bhaskar'.

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Re: BK Janki Dadiji leaves her body

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arjun wrote:
15 Apr 2020
The news reported by me was not based on hearsay, but was published in a Hindi Newspaper published locally in Aburoad, Rajasthan. The name of the Newspaper is perhaps 'Dainik Bhaskar'.
Does the news published in 'Dainik Bhaskar', as per the attachment in the post, pertain to the cremation ceremony of Dadi Janki, performed on 27th March, or does it pertain to the opening ceremony of the memorial for Dadi Janki, which was named Shakti Stambh? Could not locate any particular date of the incident being referred to, in the article.

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Post by arjun » 16 Apr 2020

zero zero wrote:Does the news published in 'Dainik Bhaskar', as per the attachment in the post, pertain to the cremation ceremony of Dadi Janki, performed on 27th March, or does it pertain to the opening ceremony of the memorial for Dadi Janki, which was named Shakti Stambh? Could not locate any particular date of the incident being referred to, in the article.
Most probably it was the opening ceremony for the memorial of Dadi Janaki because even during the live telecast the announcer was asking BKs to maintain social distance, but they were standing very close to each other in a hurry to offer floral tributes.

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Re: BK Janki Dadiji leaves her body

Post by Zero Zero » 17 Apr 2020

arjun wrote:
16 Apr 2020
Most probably it was the opening ceremony for the memorial of Dadi Janaki ...
Understand memorial service tribute to Dadi Janki took place on 13th day, viz., April 8th – view link below -
Memorial Service Tribute to Dadi Janki at Brahma Kumaris HQ

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The news reported by me was not based on hearsay, but was published in a Hindi Newspaper published locally in Aburoad, Rajasthan. The name of the Newspaper is perhaps 'Dainik Bhaskar'.
The news in 'Dainik Bhaskar', as per the attachment in the post, which is the same as that which appears in the link below, was published only on April 11th or April 12th, and since there is no mention of the memorial service tribute in the concerned news article, it does not appear that this news pertains to the memorial service tribute assembly at all – see link below -
Violation of lockdown – action against Brahma Kumaris institution – gate sealed

So, on what basis did you presume that the telecasting of the concerned live event by the Media Wing of the BK Organization for the benefit of the worldwide BK Family, urged the members of the local general public to complain to the Abu Road Administration about violation of the guidelines, by BKs, with regard to ‘social distancing’, since this was not an event organized for the general public, but only for the BK Family, and that too, only within BK premises, solely for the benefit of concerned BKs residing exclusively within these BK premises?

And further, on what basis have you presumed that the concerned news in 'Dainik Bhaskar' probably pertained to the memorial service tribute assembly of the BKs, when there is no indication that this news pertains to the memorial service tribute assembly at all - since this was not an event organized for the general public in any general public area, but only for the BK Family, and that too, only within BK premises, solely for the benefit of concerned BKs residing exclusively within these BK premises?

Furthermore, what exactly is your real intention and motive behind posting such presumptions and assumptions on this forum, which are clearly based on lack of adequate first-hand knowledge and proper comprehension of the relevant incidents in question, and their correlation?

Your kind clarifications on the above would be appreciated.

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Re: BK Janki Dadiji leaves her body

Post by arjun » 19 Apr 2020

My presumption was purely based on the news report published in the news paper and no other source. If you want the exact basis of complaint, you should contact the Aburoad Administration or the Police Authorities.

As regards the intention behind posting the news report, it is just to caution the BKs that in the zeal to offer tributes to Dadi Janaki, they should not violate the rules of lockdown framed by the Government of India. No other intention that you may presume.

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Re: BK Janki Dadiji leaves her body

Post by destroy old world » 20 Apr 2020

arjun wrote:
19 Apr 2020
My presumption was purely based on the news report published in the news paper and no other source.
Zero Zero wrote:
17 Apr 2020
... there is no mention of the memorial service tribute in the concerned news article, it does not appear that this news pertains to the memorial service tribute assembly at all ...
Firstly, your observation is based only on a flimsy presumption, and not on an established fact!

arjun wrote:
19 Apr 2020
... they should not violate the rules of lockdown framed by the Government of India.
Zero Zero wrote:
17 Apr 2020
since this was not an event organized for the general public, but only for the BK Family, and that too, only within BK premises, solely for the benefit of concerned BKs residing exclusively within these BK premises?
Secondly, under the circumstances in question, strictly speaking, one cannot definitely ascertain whether the BKs are in clear violation of the rules of lock-down framed by the Government of India. This is a matter within the purview of the BK Authorities, who have ready access to expert legal advice from concerned members of their Jurist and Law Wing, consisting of many currently officiating, as well as retired legal experts from the Government of India!

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As regards the intention behind posting the news report, it is just to caution the BKs that in the zeal to offer tributes to Dadi Janaki, ...
The BKs have been made instrumental by incorporeal God Father Shiva to caution all concerned embodied souls of the world, including those within the Government of India, regarding the forthcoming transformation of this world from Iron Age to Golden Age; and the world religio-political power and authority will ultimately be vested with the concerned BKs, by incorporeal God Father Shiva, who is directly responsible, until the very end of Confluence Age, for any errors of omission or commission, which the BKs may commit during the interim period!

Under the above circumstances, you may kindly clarify, as to who has authorised you, in your individual capacity, to caution the BKs with regard to the above incident?

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Re: BK Janki Dadiji leaves her body

Post by Zero Zero » 23 Apr 2020

Zero Zero wrote:
17 Apr 2020
Furthermore, what exactly is your real intention and motive behind posting such presumptions and assumptions on this forum, which are clearly based on lack of adequate first-hand knowledge and proper comprehension of the relevant incidents in question, and their correlation?
arjun wrote:
19 Apr 2020
As regards the intention behind posting the news report, it is just to caution the BKs that in the zeal to offer tributes to Dadi Janaki, they should not violate the rules of lockdown framed by the Government of India. No other intention that you may presume.
destroy old world wrote:
20 Apr 2020
Firstly, your observation is based only on a flimsy presumption, and not on an established fact!

Secondly, under the circumstances in question, strictly speaking, one cannot definitely ascertain whether the BKs are in clear violation of the rules of lock-down framed by the Government of India. This is a matter within the purview of the BK Authorities, who have ready access to expert legal advice from concerned members of their Jurist and Law Wing, consisting of many currently officiating, as well as retired legal experts from the Government of India!

The actual malicious intention, of Bro Arjun, behind posting such presumptions and assumptions on this forum, is readily apparent to anyone concerned!

destroy old world wrote:
20 Apr 2020
Under the above circumstances, you may kindly clarify, as to who has authorised you, in your individual capacity, to caution the BKs with regard to the above incident?

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Re: BK Janki Dadiji leaves her body

Post by Zero Zero » 30 Apr 2020

arjun wrote:
13 Apr 2020
BKWSU showed an extra eagerness in erecting a memorial for Dadi Janaki as well and named it Shakti Stambh (tower of might). ...
But in their extra eagerness to garner TRPs, they telecast the event live and as usual most senior BKs are eager to get themselves filmed/aired on TV and forgot to maintain social distancing and the number of persons allowed for a social event (i.e. 20) and perhaps on the basis of complaints from members of public, the Aburoad Administration has sealed the campus of BKWSU (Shantivan) at Aburoad. ...
They should have avoided telecasting the event live to avoid such embarrassment. Drama.

BKWSU is an independent Organization, who have the full authority to erect a memorial for Dadi Janki within their OWN premises – and no one has the right to challenge, criticize or ridicule them, in regard to this matter!

The event was telecast live on their OWN TV Channel, primarily for the benefit of the World BK Family - and also for the information of the general public, with a view to promote spiritual service of mankind. The purpose was most definitely NOT to garner TRPs – as has been sarcastically insinuated by the above member!

As already amply clarified in earlier posts, the concerned event was not organized for the general public, but only for the BK Family, and that too, only within BK premises, solely for the benefit of concerned BKs residing exclusively within these BK premises.
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“Under the circumstances in question, strictly speaking, one cannot definitely ascertain whether the BKs are in clear violation of the rules of lock-down framed by the Government of India. This is a matter within the purview of the BK Authorities, who have ready access to expert legal advice from concerned members of their Jurist and Law Wing, consisting of many currently officiating, as well as retired legal experts from the Government of India!”
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The concerned member is yet to respond appropriately to the above post!

The reasons for the Abu Road Administration to have sealed Gate 1 of BKWSU Shantivan complex, at Abu Road, (and NOT the entire complex), were quite something else!
The Abu Road Authorities have a very good rapport with the BKWSU, and are very co-operative and supportive of same!

There was no embarrassment caused to anyone in BKWSU with regard to the above incident!

It is quite EVIDENT that any embarrassment, which may have been caused, would ONLY pertain to IGNORANT individuals, whose ONLY purpose is to criticize, ridicule or defame the BKWSU on flimsy grounds, at every available opportunity!


Honourable Prime Minister, Shri Narendra Modiji, had a video conference with Sr Jayanti Bhen of Brahma Kumaris, after Dadi Janki left her corporeal body – and also offered his personal condolences.

Previous interaction of Honourable Prime Minister, Shri Narendra Modiji with Brahma Kumaris can be viewed in links below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlGTolVrFE0
Prime Minister, Shri Narendra Modiji’s Message For BRAHMA KUMARIS | Swachh Bharat Abhiyan - in September, 2018.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZiBTZq6kLw
PM Modi addresses 80th anniversary celebrations of Brahma Kumari's via video conferencing – in March, 2017.

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