peter de wrote:to be a raja yogi is to challenge Maya, is to awaken her.
ex-l wrote:To join the family is to take on even more Maya from other BKs ... We are told this. I would like to know how true it is. How much abuse do we suffer and excuse under of "Maya"? What if the system was just sick or corrupt and told us "this is Maya, it will come". My experience of those that have been doing it for 30, 50, 70 years is not great advertisement for individuals cured of Maya.
ex-l's last sentence mentioned bk length-of-service as it may or may not correlate to us becoming conquerors of Maya. As long as there is a bk there will be Maya.
I remember when i was a young bk i was encouraged, by my teacher (now deceased ...), to come into the gathering at every opportunity so that 'sanskaras can rub'. My instinctive reaction to this invitation was no thank you
. Sanskaras were horrible things i thought, why come together so that they can 'rub'!
Well, being who i am, and a quite dilligent bk student at the time :wink:, avid on the Murlis, satisified with my meditation experiences etc etc, i eventually did find myself in the local gathering quite a lot. And, boy, did sanskars rub! Maya, Maya everywhere; my Maya, that one's Maya, his Maya, her Maya, their Maya, what is Maya, who is Maya, ravana's Maya; Maya's ravana, YOU'VE GOT Maya!
All because of sanskaras "rubbing". Let alone being cured of Maya, how much closer to G-O-D did we get?
What if the system was just sick or corrupt and told us "this is Maya, it will come".