shivsena wrote:Similarly i feel that this whole Sangamyugi drama of BKs and PBKs is an intellectual exam set by Ramshivbaba(karankaravanhar bap) and mother Krishna(Brahma)
Now you are saying, 'mother Krishna' but you are always insisting that Krishna alias Brahma will be prajapita. So as per your views Krishna alias brahma will become mother and prajapita. Your perspectives has a jumble of ideas.
to see who recognises the rachieta(Ramshivbaba) and rachna(Krishna) in the end and in this process Brahma(Krishna) himself is the exam paper in which he plays the practical role of Maya to mis-lead the BKs and PBKs to seperate the family into 3 groups; and there are enough hints in Murlis and Vanis which point towards this mayavi part, only you have to have a deep study of Murlis and Vanis and churn them and seperate out the points under various headings like Ram, Bharat, Maya-Ravan, Brahma, bharatwasis, etc. and things will start becoming clear.
the core of this study is to detect who is the speaker in the body of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit and if one is able to detect, then one can never get confuse.
This is the most amazing and interesting part of drama, that on one hand Brahma(Krishna) himself is playing the role of Maya in the PBK family and then as mother he goes to mt abu and gives subtle hints about the same part and whosoever understands this raaj only will become mayajeet and jagatjeet; It has been said in Vani 7-1-78, "Maya ko challenge karo ki aao aur bidayee lo, Maya se kabhi ghabrana nahin, ghabraenge nahin toh Maya namaskar karegi, hai kuch bhi nahin, kagaz ka sher hai, kagaz ke sher se ghabrane wale ho kya??" ("challenge Maya to come and take leave; do not be afraid of Maya, if you are not afraid of Maya then Maya will bow down before you, in reality it is nothing, just a paper tiger, are you afraid of paper tiger'') Who is this Maya we have to challenge and not get scared of ?? is it the 5 vices or the personified form of 5 vices!! i think this paper tiger is nothing but the mayavi roop of Brahma whom we PBKs have to recognise and challenge and whosoever has the power to identify this paper tiger and has the guts to challenge this part of Brahma, will find a place in 108.
One has to challenge the Maya within us and not to challenge Krishna alias brahma. If we can control the Maya within us, then we can detect the speaker in the body of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit. As it is mentioned in MU. 24/4/72,--- "When you cannot control your wife, then how can you control your vices? Your duty is to keep your wife under your control."
i think that Ramshivbaba will be happy only with those children who recognise Him and his creation Brahma(Krishna);
It is said that ShivBaba creates brahmins through prajapita Brahma, so how can Krishna alias Brahma becomes a medium (prajapita) himself to become a creation?
PBKs think that they will get the inheritance from bindishivbaba through Prajapita Brahma(Ram), but i think we will get varsa only from Ramshivbaba through Prajapita Brahma(Krishna); this is the major difference in my thinking and what the PBKs think.
How can you use the term' 'bindishivbaba' when that bindi has a body. A soul without a body is called a soul and we call someone with a name and not 'hey, soul come here.'
It is said in Hindu scriptures that Maya is adi-shakti; I feel that this adi-shakti is no one but Brahma(jagdamba) in the picture of ardh-nari-ishwar; when this adi-shakti is not under the control of Ishwar Ramshivbaba then it becomes Maya-shakti and spreads ignorance in the night of Brahma, and when it is undercontrol of Ram Ishwar then it becomes Brahma-jagdamba, the first shakti(wife-banni) of God Ramshivbaba.
I agree with you that Krishna alias brahma will be Jagadamba as it is said, that "he is the true elder mother." But it is indigestible that Brahma - Krishna - Jagadamba will become Prajapita. A mother can never play a Father's role when the Father is hale and hearty. Also as per your views that Krishna alias Brahma is Adam, Adi Dev and Mahavir. If the soul of Krishna is called Adam, Adi-Dev and Mahavir, then who is Eve, Adi-Devi and Mahavirni as it is said in MU 7/12/07, God himself teaches Yoga and makes Mahavir and Mahavirni. Mahavir and Mahavirni are called God of knowledge and Godess of knowledge." If the soul of Krishna is Mahavir, then who is Mahavirni?
I can never hate anybody; ever since childhood i have been taught in bible classes in school that "hate the sin and not the sinner" and i have remembered this throughout my life and now i understand the true meaning of these words when i apply this saying in this Sangamyugi game, in which Krishna is destined to play the part of no 1 patit kami kanta(sinner)
The soul of Krishna can never become the no.1 impure soul as it is said that "Shiv enters into the most impure soul and makes him the biggest flower." Only the soul of Ram becomes no.1 in every aspect, to become the most impure and the most pure.
Om Shanti -- indie.