....dear there is no Gita of Krishna.....when we consider Gita as of Krishna's then the same Gita gets 'jhooti'....it is depended on Gita and the Gita readers....similarly it is depended on Murli and childrens to consider what.....when we accept Gita pati bhagwan as Krishna then whatever we say or do according to Murli also goes wrong for considering wrong personality as Gita pati bhagwan....and for your kind information pbk's totally eradicates this concepts....we firmly believe Gita Pati Bhagwan as ShivBaba that is Shiv+Ram(shiv's permanent Chariot) and Krishna as their one of the creation....shivsena wrote:I am in the dark as far as truth is concerned. I do not know what is the absolute truth. But i know one thing for sure that God ShivBaba and his sacchi Gita, which will bring transformation of BKs and PBKs, has yet to come in future and at present PBKs are hearing Krishna ki jhooti Gita. This is a 100% certainity and this is where i differ from my BK and PBK Brothers and this is what i wish to convey to them through this forum.
....that is OK...but what you are trying to do is nothing but just playing a blame game.....how do you know the truth when you say for you today there is no shiv nor his permanent Chariot.....you are accepting the knowledge on mere remembrance of Ram's 100% nirakari stage which you yourself accept that he is not completed till and will get completed in near future.....this itself shows your dual characteristics towards Ram.....which means today you don't respect Ram.....and about your way of remembrance it is a joke that you are playing with yourself.....you are making a picture of 100% nirakari so called Ramshivbaba and then remebering.....this is something like dreaming about an ice cream on hot vacation or standing under scorching heat considering it as waterfall.....arey dear this is nothing but a dream.....no clear backgrounds,no solid proofs,no satisfying clarifications nothing....but a stupid dream.....dear just see to that baba had said that "Sundar mela kar diya jab sadguru mila dalal"....now if you are not having real sadguru that too in practical form there is no sadgati for you....[it has been said in Vanis "asatya ko asatya siddh karo toh satya pratyaksha ho jaaega''-meaning: ''just prove what is untruth, then truth will reveal itself.'']
Dear shivsena brother,
We pbk's(or atleast me) believe that Ram plays role of sakari,akari and nirakari(baba had asked us to have practice for this)....nirakari-nirvikari-nirhankari....and we do believe as it is so because if we don't believe him as nirakari then we are indirectly saying that he is not nirvikari that is he is vikari.....and baba has said that "Baap ko patit samajhna sabse bada paap hai"...of course comparing with rest of human soul he is more nirakari,but the thing is that he cannot maintain such qualities forever right now only for the sake of children as they are in Sakar.....so when he attains the forever stage of nirakari or when he becomes shiv baap samaan he will get this whole title forever....but for now he has to come in sakari and akari avastha also only for childrens.....but we know that he is the only permanent Chariot of Shiv and their combine part of Shiv+Baba is the only one who can uplift us.....his body or sharir is patit but from intellect he is Narayan that is Gyaan jal hi jiska ghar hai(Naar-jal,aayan-ghar)....he also undergoes churning of knowledge which is done in akari stage...sukshm manan chintan manthan.....so here you just have to focus that ShivBaba is nirakar in Sakar and this combination is going to uplift our stage.....moreover in Murli baba had said that "Yeh brahma agar kuch ulta bhi karta hai toh iska jimmedar main hoon.Tumhe toh baap samjhaani de rahe hai.Nimitt ke liye main jimmedar hoon baki tumhe to shreemat par chal purusharth karna hai."....so why to think out of the track dear.....just enjoy the Nirakar and Sakar combination.....leaving everything behind....