RudraPutra wrote: ....well here i would ask you to go through the below Murli point
"Baap samjhaate hai aise nahi kahenge ramchandra fail hua.Nahi.(Yagya mein)[u bachche fail hue jo jaakar bhavishya mein ramchandra bante hai. [/u]Ram va seeta treta mein thode hi padhte hai jo kahe fail hue.Yah bhi samajh ki baat hai na.Koi sune ramchandra fail hue toh kahenge kahan padhte the? Aage janm mein aisa padhkar yah pad paaya hai."----MU 9.8.70
Read the words underlined. In the Murli point it is very clearly said that those children who failed (in Yagya) in Sangamyug studies and exams go and become Ramchandra in future. So which is that future where the failed souls go and become Ram and Seeta?
Is it Tretayug of the drama or in Sangamyug itself? It is stressed that they failed in their studies not in Tretayug but in Sangamyug. So it is very clear that those souls who become Ramchandra and Seeta in Tretayug actually failed in their exams of Sangamyug. As a result of their failure in Sangamyug they get lower quality inheritence in Satyug and have to wait till Tretayug to get kingship. I do not know how else you can interpret.
RudraPutra wrote: "Ramchandra hai unko bhi saja khaani padhi;kyonki napass ho gaya.Isliye unko baan dikhaate hai.Kshatriya toh tum sab ho"----------MU 5.1.75
In the above point it is very cleary said that Ramchandra and other students like Ramchandra actually have to undergo punishment because they failed. All the souls get inheritence from The GodFather in Sangamyug. And surely they will have to take knowledge, atleast a drop like "I am soul and Shiv is The Supreme Soul, The GodFather". All such souls get Mukti and others who do purusharth of Purity will come in the first half cycle of the drama which is called Brahma's day. Depending on their purusharth they will come at their respective time. Those who remain purusharthi till the end will become Kshatriya as they never pass in their purusharth of Purity. And those who pass will become Brahman and such Sampoorna Brahman become Farishta who in turn are called Devta, and these devta get Kingship from their first birth itself in Satyug.
But those who failed, although might come in Satyug but gets kingship only in Tretayug.
RudraPutra wrote: ....hum sab kshatriya hai ya Brahmin hai?????
You can decide yourself depending on your present stage.
RudraPutra wrote: "Ram fail hua toh 33 se kam marks mili"------MU 11.10.87
....what is the concept of this 33 marks????????
I do not find anything special in this. Tell what is the speciality of 33 marks for passing.
RudraPutra wrote: "Chandravanshi Ram ko baan aadi diye hai.Vaastav mein gyaan baan ki baat hai.Vah napass hua isliye nishaani de di hai."-------MU 10.1.02
....what about the gyaan ka baan? is it in treta????????
It shows that those souls remained purusharthi till the end of Sangamyug, fighting with Maya. And never experienced victory over Maya in Sangamyug. This is what is depicted in Ramchandra's picture. This is what is said in Murlis.
RudraPutra wrote: majority says that Ram none other than Shiv....Shiv HI Ram HAI.....so do you want to say that failure would get the same name what Shiv has?....title of Shiv to a failure?????????....doesn't this contradict....?
It is clearly said in Murlis that because of the name Rama being used for Shiv (in contrast to Ravan) and Rama is also the name of Tretayug's king there has been lots of confusion. These Murli points have been mentioned previously in this thread. But if you want to ignore them what can I do?
RudraPutra wrote: do you want to say that soul who gets the highest position in Satyug cannot come in Tretayug?????????....no logic applied....
every soul either Ram or Krishna has to come down from Satyug to treta to dwapar to Kaliyug.....now tell me why we fall in Tretayug?...why cannot we stay in Satyug?....because we have done shooting or rehearsal in this shooting period...so at the time of purusharth sometimes our stage is very much satopradhan like it is in Satyug,sometimes satosamanya like Tretayug and similarly rajo and tamo like dwapar and Kaliyug respectively.....why this is not digestible for you?
Is it me or you who is not able to digest the simple Murli point which clearly says that the soul of Ram of Tretayug actually failed in Sangamyug studies and hence got punishment and gets lower quality of inheritence in Satyug and has to wait till Tretayug to get kingship.
Regarding your accussation in the words made bold above, it your effort to put words in my mouth. I have nowhere written so. And therefore there was no need to write the next long paragraph and to question my digestive system.