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Re: Murli points on Ram

Post by shivsena » 14 Apr 2012

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Murli 30-11-01 says: "रावण कि मत पर चलने वाले और राम कि मत पर चलने वाले इक्कटा रह नहीं सकते ."

"Ravan ki mat par chalne wale aur Ram ki mat par chalne wale ikkata rah nahin sakte."

[" Those souls(PBKs) who follow Ravan's directions (Baba dixit's teachings) and those souls who follow Ram's(avaykt Mama) teachings cannot stay together."]

The above point clearly describes that there are 2 different directions in Sangamyug: one is Ravan's direction ie. remember ''nirakar shiv in a physical body''(Baba Dixit's directions)....and the other is Ram's (avaykt Mama) directions through avaykt Vanis to become karmatit avaykt farishta by remembering "nirakar shiv in aakar" ....and the souls who follow 2 different directions cannot stay together.

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Re: Murli points on Ram

Post by shivsena » 30 Jun 2012

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

In Murlis it is said: "Dataa Ek Ram, bhikari saari duniya."("The Giver is only one, the rest are all beggars")....while advance Gyan teaches (in the picture of ladder) that Ram becomes "full beggar to full prince".

The greatest fallacy about advance knowledge is that they have done a complete character assassination of Ram's soul by describing him a full beggar, no. 1 patit kami kanta and that Ram become Ravan at the end of Kaliyug.(there are no such descriptions of Ram in Murlis)...but PBKs take pride in describing Rambap(Ram parampita paramatma) by above titles.

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Re: Murli points on Ram

Post by shivsena » 20 Aug 2012

To all brothers.

Teen shabd (Ram--Upram--Aaram) ka ek doosre ke saath bahut gehra sambandh hai:

Sangamyug mein Jab tak Ram paramatma(Maa adi-shakti) ko nahin jaana, tab tak koi bhi bk-pbk ko, naa toh koi aaram mil sakta aur naa hi koi upram (avaykt) ho sakta, naa hi usse Gyan samaj mein aa sakta aur naa hi 108 rudramala mein piroya jaa sakta....sab Bhakti-marg ki andhiari Brahma ki raat mein bhatakte hi rahenge.

Ram-wali atma(Mama) hi sabse pahele 1965 mein avaykt karmatit Farishta bana, issliye Bhakti mein "upram" shabd ka gayan hai...jo Ramshivbaba(Mama) ko nirantar Yaad karega, woh hi pahele upram hoga aur aaram se rahega.

PBKs Virendra Dev Dixit ko Ram mante hain, lekin pichle 40 saal mein naa toh Ram(Virendra Dev Dixit) upram(avaykt) hua, naa hi koi pbk upram hua. Lokik duniya ki terha, Virendra Bhai swayam jismani yatra kar apne followers ko milne jaate hai aur uske followers bhi jismani yatra kar usse milne jaate hai...kya issko ruhani yatra kahenge???... aur ruhani-Bap va ruhani-bacchon ka ruhani milan kahenge???

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Re: Murli points on Ram

Post by shivsena » 26 Sep 2012

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Paramatma Ram ko janana hai, toh pahela Ravan-partdhari ko janana bahut jaruri hai...Ravan-partdhari-Virendra Dev Dixit ko janane bigar, Ram(Mama) ko koi bhi jaan nahin sakta...issliye BKs naa Ravan ko janenge, naa Ram ko pehchanenge.

If you want to know who is Ram Paramatma, then it is most imperative that you know who is Ravan-partdhari.(Virendra Dev Dixit)
Without knowing Ravan-partdhari, it is impossible to know Ram(Mama)...that is why BKs can never know who is Ravan(Virendra Dev Dixit) and who is Ram(adi-shakti Mama)...only 108 shivshaktis will know both.

No Ravan-No Ram.
Know Ravan-know Ram.


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Post by shivsena » 03 Mar 2013

cal wrote:When I was a BK, the Sisters used to tell me that Shiv is also called Ram.

However, it has been repeatedly said in the Murlis that "meri bindi ka naam sirf Shiv hai, "Mujhe nirakar Ram bhi kehte hai"

My logic tells me that when Ram achieves a nirakari stage, Ram and Shiv cannot be distinguished.
Dear cal Bhai.
You are right...in Murlis it is said: "Ram kaho yaa shiv kaho baat ek hi hai"..which fits in very well with Bhakti-marg belief: "Shiv kaho yaa shakti kaho baat ek hi hai"...so Maa adi-shakti-jagdamba (Ram's soul) cannot be seperated from Incorporeal ShivBap....Gyan-marg tallies well with Bhakti-marg.
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Re: Murli points on Ram

Post by shivsena » 21 Jul 2016

Today's Murli 21-7-16 says: " रात-दिन यही धुन लगाते रहते हैं– पतित-पावन सीताराम अर्थात् सब जो भक्तियां हैं अथवा सीतायें हैं, सबका रक्षक एक राम परमपिता परमात्मा है।"

Who is this Ram Parampita Paramatma who is the saviour of all....till now neither bindi-Ram nor Virendra Dev Dixit-Ram has been the saviour of any bk-pbk.

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