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Re: Who is shaitan--satan--ravan--devil ??

Post by shivsena » 26 Dec 2011

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Sharing a very evident Murli point:

Murli 9-8-68 says:
''बाप सुख का रास्ता बताते हैं . रावण भी दुःख नहीं देते --दुःख का उल्टा रास्ता बताते हैं''.[translation: ''Father shows you the path of happiness. Ravan also does not give sorrow..he shows you the path of sorrow''.]

The above point clearly says that there are 2 paths in Sangamyug: one is the path of happiness shown by the Father(combined with mother ie shivshakti combined) and the other is the path of sorrow shown by Ravan-partdhari. (Deh-dhari Baba Dixit).

The path of happiness is avaykt Vani, which if followed correctly and accurately, will make you karmatit farishtas(angels) and you will find only happiness on this path....the path of sorrow is advance knowledge(body-conscious knowledge) shown by dehdhari Baba Dixit, which has given nothing but sorrow to all those souls who have been following it.

The seed of happiness and the seed of sorrow is sown in Sangamyug in the form of knowledge and souls are free to choose their paths according to their intellectual capacity.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya ???

Post by shivsena » 27 Dec 2011

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Murli 1-1-69 says: " माया का न. 1 कर्त्तव्य है गुट्टर में डालना. "
[ "Maya's no. 1 duty is to throw souls in the gutter."]

The Godly form of Maya's no. 1 duty is to throw the souls in the gutter (vaishyalaya) of advance knowledge, from where the souls(108) have to make effort with the help of Murlis/Vanis to emerge victorious and get labelled as mayajeet-jagatjeet.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya ???

Post by shivsena » 29 Dec 2011

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Murli 23-4-03, Shiva says:
"बाबा है रहमदिल ; माया है बे-रहम . माया ने सत्यानाश कर दिया "
"Baba hai rahamdil; Maya hai be-raham. Maya ne satyanash kar diya."
(meaning : 'Baba is merciful and Maya is merciless. Maya has destroyed the truth.)

Who is this Godly Maya who is merciless and who destroys the truth (ie. shiv and shakti are always combined) by inventing false advance knowledge (jhooti Gita) in Sangamyug ??

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya ???

Post by shivsena » 30 Dec 2011

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Sharing a very important revealing point about Maya.

Mu: 8-3-08 Says:
"माया बुद्धि को ठिकाने लगाने नहीं देती ... अव्यक्त चीज़ में बुद्धि लगाने में माया हैरान करती है."
"Maya buddhi ko thikane lagne nahin deti...avaykt cheez mein buddhi lagane mein Maya hairan karti hai."
[" (Godly)Maya does not allow the intellect to go in the right direction...(Godly)Maya troubles/prevents you (creates obstacles in form of AK) in foccussing the intellect on the avaykt personality (ie. Mama jagdamba--personified ShivBaba.)]

The above Murli point clarifies many points of knowledge.

First, that Maya is not only the 5 vices but Maya also has some Godly personified form in Sangamyug.
That this Godly Maya does not allow the intellect of PBKs to have union with some avaykt personality ( ie. Mama jagdamba) and creates obstacles in the form of AK (jhooti Gita) in the path of PBKs.....and only those who understand who is this Godly Maya and what is the obstacle and who is this avaykt personality (with whom we should have intellectual union) will be winners-mayajeet (108) in the end.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya ???

Post by shivsena » 31 Dec 2011

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Murli 22-8-05 Shiva says:
"बाप फूलों का बगीचा बनाते हैं , माया काँटों का जंगल बनती है ; मनुष्य कहेते हैं इश्वर तेरी माया बड़ी प्रबल है ; न इश्वर को न माया को समजते हैं ; कोई ने अक्षर कहा तो बस रिपीट करते रहेते हैं ; अर्थ कुछ भी नहीं ... यहाँ की बात है.

"Bap phoolon ka bageecha banate hain, Maya kanto ka jungle banati hai; manushya kahete hain, Ishwar teri Maya badi prabal hai; Na Ishwar ko na Maya ko samajte hain: koi ne akshar kahaa toh bas repeat karte rahete hain; arth kuch bhi nahin....yahan ki baat hai.

[Translation: " Father makes garden of flowers, Maya makes jungle of thorns; Humans say God your Maya is very strong; Neither they know God nor His Maya; somebody says something and they just repeat it without understanding...this refers to Sangamyug here."]

In the above Murli, Shiva clearly says that no one(BKs or PBKs) know the personified form of God and Maya; they(BKs and PBKs) just know that God is nirakar bindishiv and Maya is 5 vices and just keep on repeating this.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya ???

Post by shivsena » 04 Jan 2012

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Murli 27-8-05 says: "माया के भी अनेक प्रकार के रूप होते हैं".
" Maya ke bhi anek prakar ke roop hote hain"
(meaning that ''Maya also adorns many forms'')

Every bk-pbk knows about the 5 vices form of Maya but hardly any bk-pbk realises that the most important subtle form of Maya is the ''Godly form of Maya''(Maya ka Ishwariya roop as described by avaykt Brahma Maa in avaykt Vani 9-4-71), who is creating an mayavi illusion of speaking the truth in the form of advance knowledge, but it is completely opposite to what is taught in Murlis and Vanis and this subtle form of Maya can only be understood by deep study of Murlis and Vanis.

In Bhakti-marg scriptures also, Maya is never described as 5 vices, but Maya is described as the illusionary power of God which make the souls attached to the material world and physical bodies...that is exactly what Baba Dixit and his advance knowledge is doing the shooting of.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya ???

Post by shivsena » 06 Jan 2012

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In Murli 16-5-87, Shiva says : "यह प्रभु और माया का नाटक है ".
"Yeh Prabhu aur Maya ka naatak hai".
( meaning : "This is a play of God and Maya'')

In the above point Shiva is clearly saying that this whole Sangamyugi play(drama) is based on God and Maya; BKs and PBKs would interpret it as God Bindishivbaba and Maya as 5 vices; but i feel that Shiva is not talking about Himself and 5 vices, but Shiva is describing the mysterious Sangamyugi play wherein the personified form of God(no. 1 shivshakti--Mama) and Mayavi-partdhari have to be identified.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya ???

Post by shivsena » 07 Jan 2012

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In Murli 11-8-05, Shiva says : "तुम बच्चों की लडाई है माया से , जिसका सिवाय Brahmin के और कोई को भी पता नहीं है ."
"Tum bacchon ki ladayee hai Maya se, jiska sivaya Brahmin ke aur koi ko bhi pataa nahin hai."
[ meaning : "You(108) children are having a fight with (Godly)Maya, who is not known to anybody, except (108)Brahmin souls")

In the above point, Shiva is clearly speaking to only 108 true Brahmin souls(shivshakti-pandavsena) who are going to recognise the personified Godly form of Maya and will fight Godly Maya with weapons of knowledge and will become mayajeet-jagatjeet.....the rest ie. 9 lakh BKs and 16000 PBKs will see Maya only as 5 vices and will never recognise the Godly Maya.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya ???

Post by shivsena » 08 Jan 2012

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Murli 15-11-87 says:
"जब किसी देहधारी के नाम रूप में फसतें हैं तो पढाई में दिल नहीं लगती... माया इसी बात से हरा देती है ..यह बहुत बड़ा विघ्न है ..५ तत्वों को भूत कहा जाता है, तो ५ तत्वों के शारीर को याद नहीं करना है. कोई भी शारीर के साथ लव रखा तो अटक पड़ेंगे".

[ Meaning: " When you get attached to the name and form of any dehdhari(Baba Dixit), then you are not interested in churning the knowledge(padayee)...(Godly) Maya defeats you in this one belief...this is the biggest obstacle...The 5 elements of nature are called ghosts, so you should not remember the body made of 5 elements....If you love any physical body( Baba Dixit) then you will get stuck. (and not progress in spiritual journey of coming in final 108.)

The above Murli point is self-explanatory, that we should not remember any physical body(Baba Dixit) made of 5 elements, but PBKs insist and preach that the right method of rememberence is remembering shiv in the physical body.

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Re: Who is shaitan--satan--ravan--devil ??

Post by shivsena » 08 Jan 2012

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Murli 14-11-05 says : " रावण क्या है , यह कोई भी विद्वान पंडित आदि नहीं जानते ; तुम मीटे बच्चे इश्वर के मददगार हो , आगे थे रावण के मददगार ."
" Ravan kya hai, yeh koi bhi vidhwan pandit adi nahin jaante; tum meete bacche Ishwar ke madadgaar ho, aage thei Ravan ke madadgaar."
(meaning : " who is 'Ravan'(partdhari) is not known to any scholar or pandit (in the bk-pbk world); you sweet children(108) are helping hands of God, before you were helping hands of Ravan.")

In the above point, Shiva is clearly describing that in the Sangamyugi world, no scholar in the bk-pbk world, knows who is personified Ravan and that the sweet children of rudramala were first helping Ravan-partdhari but once they identify personified ShivBaba(Ishwar--no. 1 shivshakti), then they start revealing the no. 1 shivshakti (Ishwar) ."

The above point proves that all 108 souls of rudramala will have to take the mayavi Advance Course and will have to serve Maya-Ravan for varying periods (''Maya kissi ko bhi nahin chodti''), till their intellect is opened by reading/churning the Murlis/Vanis and when they have nischay in the practical personified form of God ShivBaba(Mama) and practical form of Maya(Baba Dixit), then they start revealing Mama as God of Gita.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya ???

Post by shivsena » 10 Jan 2012

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Murli 1-8-97 says: "माया बड़ी प्रबल है ; यह लडाई है दिया और तूफ़ान की ; इसमें तो बहादुरी दिखानी पड़े."
"Maya badi prabal hai; yeh ladyee hai diya aur toofan ki; issme toh bahaduri dikhani pade."
(meaning: "Maya is very strong; this is a fight between the lamp and storm; one has to show courage in this fight")

In the above point, Shiva is clearly pointing towards the Godly Maya (and not 5 vices), with whom the 108 souls will have to fight with weapons of knowledge (Murli points) and these 108 souls (lamps) will have to show a lot of courage in this fight against the storm of Mayavi advance knowledge to get the title of mayajeet.

I was just wondering why Shiva has compared the fight between Maya and souls to the fight between Diya (lamp) and toofan (storm). The internal fight between Maya (5 vices) and souls is a purely subjective matter and no one else (but yourself) can know how much you have conquered the 5 vices, but this fight between diya(108) and toofan(storm) will be a battle of knowledge, which all 108 will have to take part collectively to get the title of mayajeet-jagatjeet.

The Godly form of Maya is trying to extinguish the light of knowledge from the intellect of PBK souls by the storm of ambiguities of AK--Murli clarification and will create such a confusion state in the minds of PBKs, that only those 108 souls (diyas) who have the oil of knowledge (churning of Murlis) to guide them, will keep their lamps burning, while the rest of PBKs will succumb to the storm of Maya and their light will be extinguished. That is why it is said in Murlis that "Maya se jeete so jagatjeet, Maya se haare so haar". (meaning: '' if you win over Godly Maya, then you get the title of mayajeet-jagatjeet, and if you fail to recognise the Godly Maya, then you loose.")

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya ???

Post by shivsena » 14 Jan 2012

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Sharing a important Murli point.

Murli 10-3-03 says, "तुम बच्चे अब जानते हो - माया-रावन दुःख देनेवाली है . यह रावन-राज्य शुरू हुआ है द्वापुर से . यह भी समजना है क्योंकि यह किसको पता नहीं की सबसे पुराना दुश्मन रावण है . उनकी ही मत पर यह partition हुआ है ."

"Tum bacche ab jaante ho - Maya-Ravan dukh denewali hai. Yeh Ravan-rajya shuru hua hai Dwapur se. Yeh bhi samajana hai kyonki yeh kisko pataa nahin ki sabse purana dushman Ravan hai. Unki hi mat par yeh partition hua hai."

(meaning : " Now you children(108) know that Maya-Ravan(role-player in Sangamyug) is giving sorrow. This Ravan-rajya(AIVV) begins from Dwapur(shooting from 1990 onwards). You(108) have to make others(PBKs) understand because no one(PBKs) knows that Ravan(partdhari Baba Dixit) is your oldest enemy. This partition(of BKs and PBKs) has happened because of his mat." (advance knowledge)")

In the above point, Shiva is clearly speaking about the Ravan-rajya of this behad ka drama which has started from 1990 (Copper Age shooting starts) and this whole Advanced Knowledge is Ravan-mat, which has been instrumental in causing the partition in the Godly family and dividing them as BKWSU and Aivv.

Let each PBK decide, about who is this personified Maya-Ravan who has caused partition between the BKs and PBKs.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya ???

Post by shivsena » 15 Jan 2012

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Sharing an important point in av. Vani 1-2-79 (av. Vani no. 83 in Murli khand 1) about how to become mayajeet.

''माया भी जानी-जाननहार रूप में आती है . वोह भी जानती है की brahmin आत्मा का मुख्या आधार बुद्धि योग है ... दिव्य-बुद्धि द्वारा ही बाप से मिलन मना सकते , तो माया भी पहेले पहेले बुद्धि में वार करती है ... कमजोर बना देती है ... किस द्वारा ?? .. माया का विशेष बाण व्यर्थ संकल्पों के रूप में होता है . इस बाण द्वारा दिव्य-बुद्धि को कमजोर बना देती है और परवश हो जाते है ... बाप द्वारा प्राप्त हुई शक्ति कार्य में नहीं लागाते हो ... वोह विशेष शक्ति है मनन -शक्ति ... इस शक्ति को use करना नहीं आता ... मनन-शक्ति ही दिव्य-बुद्धि की खुराक है ...खुराक न खाने से कमजोर बन जाते हो और कमजोर होने से परवश हो जाते हो ... जो चाहे वोह मनन करो ...तो मनन करते मग्न अवस्था भी सहज प्राप्त हो जाएगी . मायाजीत बनने का वशी-करण मंत्र सदा याद रहेगा और माया सदा के लिए नमस्कार करेगी . संगमयुग का पहेला भक्त माया बनेगी . मास्टर भगवन बनो तोह भक्त भी बने ना ... तो मास्टर भगवन बनाने का सहज साधन है ... मनन-शक्ति को बढाओ ... समझा ''.

''Maya bhi jaani-jananhaar roop mein aati hai. Woh bhi jaanti hai ki brahman atma ka mukhya adhaar buddhi Yoga hai ... divy-buddhi dwara hi bap se milan manaa sakte, toh Maya bhi pahele pahele buddhi mein vaar karti hai ... kamjor banaa deti hai ... kis dwara?? .. Maya ka vishesh baan vyarth sankalpon ke roop mein hota hai. Iss baan dwara divya-buddhi ko kamjor banaa deti hai aur parvash ho jaate hai ... bap dwara prapta hui shakti karya mein nahin lagate ho ... woh vishesh shakti hai manan-shakti ... iss shakti ko use karna nahin ataa ... manan-shakti hi divya-buddhi ki khurak hai...khurak na khane se kamjor ban jaate ho aur kamjor hone se parvash ho jaate ho ... jo chahe woh manan karo...toh manan karte magna awastha bhi sahaj prapt ho jaaegi. Mayajeet banane ka vashi-karan mantra sadaa Yaad rahega aur Maya sadaa ke liye namaskar karegi. Sangamyug ka pahela bhakt Maya banegi. Master bhagwan bano toh Maya bhi bhakt bane na ... toh master bhagwan banane ka sahaj sadhan hai... manan-shakti ko badhao ... samjaa''.

Translation: "(Godly)Maya also comes in the form of jaani-jananhar. She(Partdhari Maya) also knows that Brahmin souls(potential 108) remember Father(combined shivshakti) through the divine intellect, so Maya also first attacks the intellect and makes you weak. How?? Maya's(Baba dixit partdhari) first weapon is in the form of waste thoughts(ambigious explanations of Murlis--AK) ... by using this weapon(AK) Maya makes you(108) weak and controls you ... you(108) do not use the power given by Father(combined shivshakti) and that power is churning-power ... do you not know how to use this power of churning, which is the food of divine intellect and when you do not use this power then you become weak and a weak person is always under control of others(gurus) ... you must churn(Murli points) whatever you like (not just listen to cds) ... by churning (Murli points) you will attain a stage of constant rememberence. If you remember this mantra (of churning The Knowledge) then you will become Maya-jeet and (Godly) Maya will bow down before you. (Godly)Maya will become the first bhakt of Sangamyug. ... If you become master bhagwan(108) then Maya(partdhari) will also become your bhakt ... so the easiest way to become Master bhagwan is to increase your churning power ... understand."

In the above Vani point, avaykt brahma(Mama) is clearly hinting to potential 108 souls that Godly Maya first attacks the intellect by giving ambigious advance knowledge and makes the intellect weak and then controls the intellect of PBKs...and the only way to counteract this, is to increase the churning power of knowledge ie. study of Murli and Vani points and only those who rely on this power of churning will attain a stage of constant rememberence with Father(combined shivshakti) and will become mayajeet and (Godly) Maya will become their bhakt and bow before them.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya ???

Post by shivsena » 19 Jan 2012

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Avaykt Vani 4-1-80 says ''माया को भी अगर नए ग्राहक मिल जाएंगे तो पुराने ग्राहक को छोड़ देगी "
[meaning: "if Maya gets new customers(students), then it will leave the old ones." ]

The above Vani point clearly describes Godly form of Maya who will leave the old students when it finds new students.....this has been happening in AIVV ever since its inception....Godly Maya does not really care whether any student leaves or stays in AIVV....the role of Godly Maya is just to mislead the PBKs and that part is being played perfectly by mayavi partdhari--Baba Dixit.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya ???

Post by shivsena » 24 Jan 2012

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Sharing a very interesting Vani point.

Avaykt Vani 17-12-84 says: " माया की शक्ति वाले govt. को ललकार रहे हैं . ईश्वरीय शक्ति वाले माया को ललकार रहे हैं . माया को ललकार करनेवाले हो ना ; घबराने वाले तो नहीं हो ना . जैसे वोह कहेते हमारा राज्य हो , आप भी माया को ललकार करते हो , गर्जना से कहेते हो की अब हमारा राज्य हो ; ऐसे बहादुर हो ना ".

" Maya ki shakti wale govt. ko lalkar rahe hain. Ishwariya shakti wale Maya ko lalkar rahe hain. Maya ko lalkar karnewale ho naa; ghabrane wale toh nahin ho naa. Jaise woh kahete hamara rajya ho, aap bhi Maya ko lalkar karte ho, garjana se kahete ho ki ab hamara rajya ho; aise bahadur ho naa".

[meaning: " Maya power(PBKs) is challenging the (bk)govt. ; Godly power(108) is challenging Maya power(PBKs) ; you(108) are challenging Maya, is it not ; you(108) are not the ones who get scared(of Maya power) ; Just as they say (PBKs say to BKs) that our rule is going to come, you (108) also challenge Godly Maya (personified) that our rule will come; Are you(108) not such brave souls''.]

Many queries to be asked on the above point:
What is Maya power??
Which is the govt. being challenged by Maya power??
What is ishwariya shakti(power)??
Who has to challenge Maya??
Who are the brave souls??


IMO, in the above Vani point, avaykt brahma(Mama) is clearly describing the 3 powers towards the end of the behad ka drama: BK govt, Maya power(PBKs) and Godly power (108), which will be very clearly seperated as per their interpretations of Murli and Vani points and how the Maya power( 16000 PBKs) will challenge the bk govt.(9,00,000) and how the Godly power(108) will challenge the Maya power(PBKs) to form the rajdhani(9,16,108) in future.

The above point also clearly proves the existence of one personified Maya power (besides the 5 vices), known only to 108 king souls.

shivsena.

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