Dada Lekhraj Brahma: Karmatit or not in 1969!!

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Re: Dada Lekhraj Brahma: Karmatit or not in 1969!!

Post by shivsena » 01 Aug 2011

Dear roy Bhai.

Ak teaches that baba dixit is Ram's soul and is going to be revealed as Sangamyugi Narayan in front of the world and he is going to become Father of satyugi Narayan(DL--Krishna's soul)

Can you answer a very simple question:

Why does the soul who is going to become world emperor Narayan repeatedly criticise his own would-be son DL(Krishna) in his teachings.....no lokik Father would criticise his own son repeatedly in front of others and here we see the Father-teacher doing so openly in front of other children.....so what sort of message is AK and Baba dixit trying to convey by doing so....can you please give your views.

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Re: Dada Lekhraj Brahma: Karmatit or not in 1969!!

Post by arjun » 01 Aug 2011

shivsena wrote:Why does the soul who is going to become world emperor Narayan repeatedly criticise his own would-be son DL(Krishna) in his teachings.....no lokik Father would criticise his own son repeatedly in front of others and here we see the Father-teacher doing so openly in front of other children.....so what sort of message is AK and Baba dixit trying to convey by doing so....can you please give your views.
I think every Father has a right to criticize his children, if he feels they are going astray. And being the Father of the world He (God Shiv through Baba Virendra Dev Dixit) knows how to maintain a balance between criticism and glorification. While on one hand He criticizes DL, H praises him at the same time. It is upto every soul how he sees the actions of God.

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Re: Dada Lekhraj Brahma: Karmatit or not in 1969!!

Post by shivsena » 01 Aug 2011

arjun wrote: I think every Father has a right to criticize his children, if he feels they are going astray. And being the Father of the world He (God Shiv through Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) knows how to maintain a balance between criticism and glorification. While on one hand He criticizes DL, H praises him at the same time. It is upto every soul how he sees the actions of God.
According to avaykt Vanis BapDada kabhi kisi ke avgun nahin dekhta....and BapDada teaches the same thing to the children that do not see any bad qualities about anybody and here we see baba dixit not following that Shrimat.

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Re: Dada Lekhraj Brahma: Karmatit or not in 1969!!

Post by Roy » 01 Aug 2011

shivsena wrote:Why does the soul who is going to become world emperor Narayan repeatedly criticise his own would-be son DL(Krishna) in his teachings.....no lokik Father would criticise his own son repeatedly in front of others and here we see the Father-teacher doing so openly in front of other children.....so what sort of message is AK and Baba dixit trying to convey by doing so....can you please give your views.
shivsena wrote:and BapDada teaches the same thing to the children that do not see any bad qualities about anybody and here we see baba dixit not following that Shrimat.
Dear shivsena Bhai

I believe Arjun Bhai has answered this question most succinctly, and i can only really echo his remarks. Knowledge is about truth, and the truth is, great as Brahma Baba(DL) is, he has his faults. His main one being his attachment to his children, the fault of most mothers. This imbalance, has caused him to act against the teachings of ShivBaba, on occasion. The other thing is, he doesn't have such a sharp intellect as Ram(Baba Dixit); but this shouldn't be any reason to love him less, it's just a fact.

PBKs, unlike BKs, are expected to be mature and detached; and not take the faults of others on board, in a way that causes them to have ill-feelings towards them. Brahma Baba is a major player(hero actor) in the Confluence Age; and to pass with honour, one has to fully understand the part he plays at this time; both the great, and at times; not so great. ShivBaba demonstrates love and law in His role of Father, Teacher, Satguru, but not everyone is comfortable with this; especially when they preferred the much softer role of mother, played through Brahma Baba. You see the same thing in lokik life... fathers in general, are much more open about their children's shortcomings; whereas mothers, will often defend their children to a fault. We are witnessing in the Confluence Age, the shooting of this fundamental reality, that will be played-out, throughout the second half of the broad drama, in most families. Also, because ShivBaba is perfect; He can speak of these things in a way, we cannot. So if ShivBaba tells us something negative about another, it is not damaging gossip; but it is to educate, and ultimately, protect his children.

Roy

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Re: Dada Lekhraj Brahma: Karmatit or not in 1969!!

Post by arjun » 02 Aug 2011

shivsena wrote:According to avaykt Vanis BapDada kabhi kisi ke avgun nahin dekhta....and BapDada teaches the same thing to the children that do not see any bad qualities about anybody and here we see Baba dixit not following that Shrimat.
Avyakt Vanis are basically versions of the bari Maa (senior mother or Lekhraj Kirpalani) and mothers are always gentle by nature and ignore the bad qualities of the children despite being aware of them or sometimes they even encourage such children by supporting them. But the Father's role is a strict role and he would not hesitate to point out the shortcomings of the children in order to make them perfect. He knows when to love and when to scold/correct his children. So, it is upto you - whether you wish to be the child of only a mother or the child of a Father as well as a mother. Children who say that they do not have any Father (in practical) are generally considered illegitimate.

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Re: Dada Lekhraj Brahma: Karmatit or not in 1969!!

Post by shivsena » 03 Jul 2016

Can any member please upload a scanned copy of trust-deed made by BK ramesh Bhai on 17 jan 1969 which was instrumental in causing heart-attack to BBaba next day....a senior bk is asking for the copy.....thanks.

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