Brahmins or shudras: 1st birth or 84th birth?

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Re: Brahmins or shudras: 1st birth or 84th birth?

Post by shivsena » 12 Mar 2011

Dear roy Bhai and pbk brothers.

In Murli 1-1-77 it is said: "Brahmin hain brahma ki santaan...kaise paida hue yeh nahin jaante...brahmins mein koi pushkarni toh koi saraswat hote hain."
[meaning: "Brahmins are children of brahma...how they take birth nobody knows...in brahmins, some are pushkarni and some are saraswat."]

Can you please share your views as to who are ''pushkarni'' brahmins and who are ''saraswat'' brahmins.

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Re: Brahmins or shudras: 1st birth or 84th birth?

Post by arjun » 12 Mar 2011

shivsena wrote:Can you please share your views as to who are ''pushkarni'' Brahmins and who are ''saraswat'' Brahmins.
Acc. to AK,
Pushkarni Brahmins = the Brahmin souls which follow the path of knowledge on being given a push by others.
Saraswat Brahmins = the Brahmin souls which follow the path of knowledge with their own interest on the basis of ShivBaba's knowledge.

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Re: Brahmins or shudras: 1st birth or 84th birth?

Post by shivsena » 16 Mar 2011

arjun wrote:Acc. to AK,
Pushkarni Brahmins = the Brahmin souls which follow the path of knowledge on being given a push by others.
Saraswat Brahmins = the Brahmin souls which follow the path of knowledge with their own interest on the basis of ShivBaba's knowledge.
imo, Pushkarni brahmins are those who believe that Chariot (DL or VD) is the personified form of God ShivBaba, as they need the support(push) of the body to remember ShivBaba.....and in rememberence of prajapita, there is only one temple of prajapita brahma in pushkar--rajasthan where prajapita is never worshipped like a deity........while saraswat brahmins(named after Saraswati) are those who believe that Murlis and avaykt Vanis are narrated by goddess of knowledge mother Saraswati(personified ShivBaba) and they follow only what is said in Murlis/Vanis.....also saraswat brahmins(108) do not need the body(Chariot) to remember ShivBaba, as they believe that Mama Saraswati is the personified form of ShivBaba, so they remember the avaykt brahma(Mama) to attain the avaykt farishta stage.(first aakari stage and then nirakari stage)

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Re: Brahmins or shudras: 1st birth or 84th birth?

Post by shivachild » 02 Oct 2013

shivsena wrote:Dear BK and PBK Brothers.

It has been said many times in Murlis that, "Father comes and gives you 21 births inheritance of mukti and jeevan-mukti". Then again it has been said in Murlis that, ''Father comes to make you ever-healthy, ever-wealthy, and ever-happy for next 21 births". Then again it has been said that, ''you will not fall ill for the next 21 births".

Now these Murli points, if churned deeply, give a very clear message that the part of Father (Ram ShivBaba) or Bindi ShivBaba (as believed by most BKs and PBKs) as Bap-teacher-Satguru has still not started for the simple reason that, if the GodFather's part has started, then we should should be experiencing the practical proof of the above 3 points mentioned. But the fact is that none of the BKs or PBKs have received inheritance of any sort in the present life and both are still sailing in the same boat of ignorance (Brahma ki raat).
Dear Shivsena,
I too believe that the GodFather's part has not yet started. It is only No.1 souls (Dada Lekhraj Kirpalani & Mama-Om-Radhey) who are giving hints through Murlis and Vanis about Godfather.We are in the ignorance-It is Brahma Ki Rat

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