That can balance the other way round also, which according to me seems more balanced.Roy wrote: I used the word balances, not disagrees. Murli points in isolation, can give a false impression of their meaning, imo. Thus, i feel, the point i quoted, gives a more balanced view, of what Shivsena's point actually means.
To experience those you need to have them. They are not fantasies of our mind neither are they visions given by ShivBaba. They are experiences of everyone who is on his/her path back Home.Roy wrote: What are the subtle bodies, of Brahma, Vishnu, and Shankar, in the Subtle Regions for? Imo, these subtle deities, correspond to the three different levels of vision, one can experience. Gyani experience, in Brahma puri? Golden Age experience, in Vishnu puri; and experience of Nirakar stage, in Shankar puri. All very lovely, but of no use in the practical sense, where remembrance of ShivBaba, and churning of Gyan, is the only method to gain your inheritance.
And I think that ther is not actual Nirakari experience in ShankarPuri, but that is the maximum a human soul can experience on his/her own purusharth. Experience of actual Nirakari stage is possible only when The Actual Nirakari Shiv comes in practical and comes in contact with us here.
This churning of gyaan is good, but should be unbiased and with open mind without our prejudices and we can only progress based on our experiences not just hearsay.