Meaning of Avaykt Bap-Dada.

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Re: Meaning of Avaykt Bap-Dada.

Post by shivsena » 10 Dec 2011

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

The latest avaykt Vani 30-11-11 ( 2nd para, 2nd line) avaykt brahma says: "Apne ko atma samaj mujh Bap ko Yaad karo". ["think of yourself as a soul and remember me your Father."]

Who is this avaykt Brahma who is saying "Remember me your Father."....when Baba Dixit (supposed ShivBaba as per PBKs) cannot speak these words, then why these words are being spoken by avaykt brahma (supposed Lekhraj Kirpalani--satyugi Krishna)....unless of course avaykt Brahma-Bap is someone who has not yet been identified by either BKs or PBKs.

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Re: Meaning of Avaykt Bap-Dada.

Post by Roy » 11 Dec 2011

shivsena wrote:Who is this avaykt Brahma who is saying "Remember me your Father."....when Baba Dixit (supposed ShivBaba as per PBKs) cannot speak these words, then why these words are being spoken by avaykt brahma (supposed Lekhraj Kirpalani--satyugi Krishna)....unless of course avaykt Brahma-Bap is someone who has not yet been identified by either BKs or PBKs.
The PBKs are instructed more specifically... "[to know] the permanent Chariot, in which the Incorporeal point of light who is the Father of all the souls, is playing a part."

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Re: Meaning of Avaykt Bap-Dada.

Post by sukshmbindu » 17 Dec 2011

bap/pita/bapu/piyu = Father
bap = god Father Shiva
Dada = elder brother soul brahma baba
Dada = great great great grand Father adam(brahma baba)

also sometimes
bap = Father of Yagya, brahma baba
as in ShivBaba says follow Father, follow Father of Yagya brahma baba

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Re: Meaning of Avaykt Bap-Dada.

Post by shivsena » 17 Dec 2011

Roy wrote: The PBKs are instructed more specifically... "[to know] the permanent Chariot, in which the Incorporeal point of light who is the Father of all the souls, is playing a part."
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To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Murli 27-12-05 says: "Alokik Bap se varsa nahin milta. Prajapita Brahma ko Yaad nahin karna hai."[ "Alokik Father does not give any inheritance. Prajapita brahma is not to be remembered." ]

The above point clearly says that prajapita brahma is not to be remembered, as prajapita brahma(alokik Father) does not give any inheritance (of kingship)....but PBKs insist and preach that shiv is to be remembered through prajapita brahma only.

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Re: Meaning of Avaykt Bap-Dada.

Post by shivsena » 08 Aug 2012

To truth-seeking PBKs.

Sharing a very important Vani point:

Av. Vani 18-1-87: "निराकार बाप भी अव्यक्त ब्रह्मा बाप के द्वारा मिलन मानते हैं . निराकार को भी यह फरिश्तों की महफ़िल अति-प्रिय लगती है ."
"Nirakaar Bap bhi avaykt Brahma Bap ke dwara milan manate hain. Nirakaar ko bhi yeh Farishton ki mehfil ati-priya lagti hai."

["Incorporeal Father(shiv) also meets the children through avaykt Brahma(Mama). Incorporeal Father also likes this company of angels very much."]

The above Vani clearly antagonises the teachings of adv-Gyan, which teaches that Incorporeal Father shiv meets children only through the supposed Chariot of Virendra Dev Dixit. This point also raises doubt about who is avaykt brahma and whether Lekhraj Kirpalani-Brahma is really entering Virendra Dev Dixit as is supposed by PBKs.

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Re: Meaning of Avaykt Bap-Dada.

Post by shivsena » 28 Aug 2012

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Murli 2-10-97 says: "सुक्ष्म-वतन-वासी तो है संपूर्ण ब्रह्मा ."

"Sukshma-vatan-wasi toh hai sampoorna Brahma."

["The subtle brahma is sampoorna-complete karmatit Brahma"]

PBKs believe that subtle brahma is Lekhraj Kirpalani and that he is incomplete brahma and is doing purusharth through the body of Virendra Dev Dixit....but the above Sakar Murli point narrated before 1969 clearly says that the subtle brahma is complete karmatit brahma...So Who is this Brahma who became complete before Lekhraj Kirpalani left his body in 1969 ???

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