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Post by shivsena » 11 Oct 2009

RudraPutra wrote:
,ShivBaba has given his own introduction but if you prefer to accept 3rd grade Murli in papers rather than 1st grade of Murli -sammukhvani or 2nd grade of Murli -Vani by tape or VCD* than it's really hard to make you anything understandable....
Those who say that reading and churning the Murlis is third grade are definitely going to get third grade praja status in future because it is praja who do not have churning power and hence they like only to listening to cds.(sunna sunana hai Bhakti-marg )

Also if reading Murlis is third class(according to PBKs) then the whole advance knowledge is derived by churning of Murlis. Then why other souls are prevented from reading and churning the Murlis.

Also if Murlis are third class then why it is said in Murlis that Murlis should be read 7-8 times to understand them properly. It is never said that Murlis should be heard 7-8 times.
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Post by RudraPutra » 12 Oct 2009

sorry for finally....i wanted to edit but some problem occurred and i kept on changing the things ...and finally got lot of quotes....sorry i have edited now....i would request admin to delete those unwanted stuff....thanx in advance and sorry again

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Post by RudraPutra » 12 Oct 2009

shivsena wrote:Those who say that reading and churning the Murlis is third grade are definitely going to get third grade praja status in future because it is praja who do not have churning power and hence they like only to listening to cds.(sunna sunana hai Bhakti-marg )
....sorry Brother but Baba had said so,,,,,,by rejecting the point you are rejecting what Baba had said and not what i am saying....
Also if reading Murlis is third class(according to PBKs) then the whole Advanced Knowledge is derived by churning of Murlis. Then why other souls are prevented from reading and churning the Murlis.
....no one is prevented to do any sort of churning.....but we all know that if 10 person churn on particular topic we would get 10 different views.....so which one is correct? who would take the decision about the truthness of the churn of those 10 fellows? till now for 63 births or for total 2500 years of DWAPAR and Kaliyug we everyone tried our best to churn on whatever we liked and what the result we got? downfall,downfall and only downfall and now at this Sangamyug if you believe your views without rectifying it with ShivBaba then the same downfall will happen now and is happening,i should say....
Also if Murlis are third class then why it is said in Murlis that Murlis should be read 7-8 times to understand them properly. It is never said that Murlis should be heard 7-8 times.
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dear first you answer me that whether you believe or not that such points,about the degree or level of different forms of Murli, has been stated in Murli or not?mentioned or not?....if you don't believe this than you really have some problem coz you are the one supporting printed Murli and at the same time rejecting the Murli points.....but if you believe it than you should start following it...
....yes we should read Murli for 7-8 times till we won't get the real identity of Shiv that is in corporeal form,in short till we find the CORPOREAL MEDIA OF Shiv....after knowing who ShivBaba is why to stick for printed Murli?....we should take the help of ponds,lakes and rivers till we are unaware of sea but once we are in front of sea why to depend on others than? similarly till we get the first and second class Murli(sammukhvani-direct knowledge spoken by Shiv+Baba in front of us and tape,VCD****knowledge of Shiv+Baba captured in tape and VCD****) we can,infact we must rely on third class that is printed Murli.....this third class becomes first class only if it is clarified by Shiv+Baba else it will remain only papers of nothing....
Murli is nothing but "jo mukh se nikli(ShivBaba ke)woh Murli"....Murli is not what we read....it is nothing but the words spoken by ShivBaba.....and it is the thing what ShivBaba wants us to understand and not what we understand....


NOTE:short example for you.....take one sentence
"Roko mat jaane do" ("Make him stay not let him go" )
....you can interpret it either as
"Roko.....mat jaane do" (Make him stay.....not let him go)
or as
"Roko mat.....jaane do" (Make him stay not.....let him go)

now both have different meanings...who will explain the actual true meaning of that sentence? the one who had uttered the sentence can explain what he actually meant and no one else.....whole Murli spoken through Brahma was of Shiv and Shiv himself has to explain its original meaning....so neither your churning nor mine is true.....truth cannot be defined by any human beings....for 2500 years no one was able to do so....hence for that, SATYAM-SHIVAM-SUNDARAM has to come and now when he has come in corporeal form some fellows like you wanna continue the same rites and rituals that was followed for 2500 years that is churning churning and churning with own belief irrespect to whether ShivBaba accept it as true or not....

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Re: Sangamyug & purshottam Sangamyug.

Post by shivsena » 27 Dec 2009

Dear rudraputra.

All arguments of PBKs are based on one single assumption that Baba Dixit is Ram' soul and that Shiva through him is giving the explanation of Sakar Murlis. But pbk themselves have no direct or indirect or logical or practical proof that Baba Dixit is Ram's soul or that Shiva is explaining the Murlis. If any pbk has any solid proof of the same from the Murlis, then let him please come forward and clear the doubts of souls on this forum.

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Post by shivsena » 30 Dec 2009

RudraPutra wrote: now both have different meanings...who will explain the actual true meaning of that sentence? the one who had uttered the sentence can explain what he actually meant and no one else.....whole Murli spoken through Brahma was of Shiv and Shiv himself has to explain its original meaning....
Dear rudraputra.

I fully agree with you that only ShivBaba can narrate the true meaning of what is said in Sakar Murlis. But the question is when???????....is it during brahma ki raat or is it only when this behad ki raat ends.

The following Murli point will further clarify how ShivBaba will explain the Murlis in future.

Murli 29-11-81 says: "Baba toh kab Murli haath mein nahin utathe."
[meaning: "Baba never picks up the Murli in hand" ]

The above Murli point clearly indicates that ShivBaba never picks up the Murli in his hands to give the explanation of Murlis. When the behad ki brahma ki raat ends, then ShivBaba will give the accurate explanation of Murlis in a summarised manner which will never be recorded or printed.("Bap aakar shastron ka saar samjate hain."). So now it is clear from the above point that it is Brahma(Krishna) who is reading the Murlis and narrating his own manthan and bringing about the downfall of PBKs.(that is why in Bhakti-marg, Brahma is shown with scriptures in his hand.)

Also the above Murli contradicts the conventional advance teaching that it is Krishna who is reading the Murlis and it is ShivBaba who is doing the explaining and Ram is in continous Yoga. (there is absolutely no proof in the Murlis for such a non-sensical assumption....i do not understand how i accepted this teaching for 10 long years.)

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Re: Sangamyug & purshottam Sangamyug.

Post by shivsena » 14 Dec 2018

Murli 19-9-84, says,

"Sangamyug sabse suhavana kalyankari hai. Bap purshottam Sangamyug par hi aate hai. Sangamyug ka arth bhi samjaya hai - vaishyalaya ka anth aur shivalaya ka adi unko kaha jaata purshottam Sangamyug."

Pu. Sangamyug kab shuru hua ???? 1937 mei ????
Yaa bhavishya mei shuru hogaa, jab shivalaya ka ADI hogaa.?????

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