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Re: Sangamyug & purshottam Sangamyug.

Post by shivsena » 03 Sep 2008

Dear indiana, arjunbhai, and PBK brothers.

Murli dated 19-9-84, says, "Sangamyug sabse suhavana kalyankari hai. Bap purshottam Sangamyug par hi aate hain. Sangamyug ka arth bhi samjaya hai - vaishyalaya ka anth aur shivalaya ka adi unko kaha jaata purshottam Sangamyug." (meaning: "Sangamyug is most pleasant beneficial. Father comes in auspicious Confluence Age only. The meaning of Sangamyug is also explained: end of corrupt world and beginning of paradise is called auspicious Confluence Age.")

In the above Murli Shiva, is clearly speaking about this behad ka drama and defining how in future the pu. Sangamyug will start. When both behad ki duniya (BK and PBK world) will become 100% vaishyalaya (corrupted world) then Rambap will come as Ramshivbaba and will establish shivalaya(paradise).

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Post by RudraPutra » 08 Oct 2009

shivsena wrote: If Purushottam Sangamyug is the period 1976 to 2036, then one query remains; Advanced Knowledge teaches us that from 1989 started the shooting period of Dwapur yug and from 2000 onwards started the shooting period of Kaliyug; so how can shooting period of Dwapur and Kaliyug go on within the pu. Sangamyug; this becomes difficult to explain; logically purshottam Sangamyug should start after the Kaliyugi shooting period of the behad ka drama ends in the near future and Brahma stops going to Mount Abu and becomes Brahma-so-Vishnu in one second. This is my view.
...dear shivsena brother,
purushottam word is well explained by brother andrey....purushottam is nothing but uttam te uttam among the purush....that is highest and topmost among the souls....
in general term when we say Sangamyug it is the age where there is confluence of incorporeal Shiv with corporeal children whatever the media is.....but when we say purushottam Sangamyug it is the special phase in Sangamyug itself where incorporeal Shiv confluences with corporeal children via special media which is permanent Chariot of Shiv who himself stands and get declares as purushottam among the all....

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Re: Sangamyug & purshottam Sangamyug.

Post by RudraPutra » 08 Oct 2009

sachkhand wrote:
My opinion is that Sangamyug started in 1947-48 when Murli started through Dada Lekharaj Brahma.

Purushottam Sangamyug will start in November- December of 2008, when Sangamyugi Krishna will get revealed in Brahmin family. I cannot prove it with Murli points. It is my feeling.
....well time has gone....so what's next?

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Post by RudraPutra » 08 Oct 2009

shivsena wrote: Murli dated 19-9-84, says, "Sangamyug sabse suhavana kalyankari hai. Bap purshottam Sangamyug par hi aate hain. Sangamyug ka arth bhi samjaya hai - vaishyalaya ka anth aur shivalaya ka adi unko kaha jaata purshottam Sangamyug." (meaning: "Sangamyug is most pleasant beneficial. Father comes in auspicious Confluence Age only. The meaning of Sangamyug is also explained: end of corrupt world and beginning of paradise is called auspicious Confluence Age.")
....well nothing starts or stops completely within a second....beginning and end of anything has to undergo atleast a chain of process like Sato,Rajo,tamo.....here also it is applicable....vaishyalay(in English it is brothel) doesn't ends completely within a second and nor shivalay(house of Shiv) starts within a second....
in vaishyalay souls gets attached to more and more of the other souls that is anekon ka sang ka rang....one has to remain under many souls....but in shivalay this is not so...one has to remain under only one that is ShivBaba and attachment only towards ShivBaba....this will definitely require some time....and when we say sangam or confluence...we can see vaishyalay and shivalay both at the same time depending on the vision....

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Re: Sangamyug & purshottam Sangamyug.

Post by arjun » 08 Oct 2009

rudraputra wrote:....well time has gone....so what's next?
Well, shivsena Bhai also made a similar prediction about the revelation of RamShivbaba in 2010 long ago, but later changed his statement to 'anytime after 2010' when I reminded him a few months ago. Since the PBKs believe the revelation to take place around 2018 and if it happens, shivsena Bhai may also say that look I had said that RamShivbaba will be revealed anytime after 2010. That time has now come (in 2018).

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Re: Sangamyug & purshottam Sangamyug.

Post by shivsena » 08 Oct 2009


Dear PBK brothers.
When the Chariot of God himself changes the predictions of destruction from 2000 to another date(not predicted) and the coming of sister Vedanti from 1997 to 2007(both of which did not materialise), then why such a fuss is being created if i have made a prediction that after 2010 the collapse and breakdown of PBK family will be very evident to all PBKs. Is the breakdown not evident to PBKs who want to delibrately keep their eyes closed to all that is happening in the Advance Party.

Also the predictions of destruction in 1976 made in Murlis and Vanis also did not come true and no body questions about it, then why a soul's prediction of 2010 should be taken so seriously. It just shows that little things please little minds.

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Re: Sangamyug & purshottam Sangamyug.

Post by shivsena » 08 Oct 2009

RudraPutra wrote: .we can see vaishyalay and shivalay both at the same time depending on the vision....
Murlis say that Ram-rajya and Ravan Rajya cannot co-exist at the same time, so how can vaishyalay and shivalay co-exist.

Also in Gyan marg, nothing is relative to vision(subjective), everything is objective.
Day and night cannot be seen differently; day is day and night is night; so likewise when there is vaishyalay(poisonous corrupted knowledge) in Advance Party, then there cannot be shivalay (absolute nectar of knowledge).

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Post by shivsena » 08 Oct 2009

RudraPutra wrote: but when we say purushottam Sangamyug it is the special phase in Sangamyug itself where incorporeal Shiv confluences with corporeal children via special media which is permanent Chariot of Shiv who himself stands and get declares as purushottam among the all....
So has the permanent Chariot of Shiv himself stood in front of the PBKs and declared himself as purshottam among all.

The day he declares himself, then automatically 108 rudrabeads will unite under one Fatherhood.

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shivsena wrote:Murlis say that Ram-rajya and Ravan Rajya cannot co-exist at the same time, so how can vaishyalay and shivalay co-exist.
...dear when sun starts rising sky turns from dark black to little bit red and then slowly it attains orange lightness and finally sun rises but at the same time some part of the world are still in the dark and are gradually moving towards light or dark.....even in Murli it has been said "Ram bhi yaha hai toh Ravan bhi yaha hai.Sangamyug mein toh har ek ka sangam hai.Din raat ka bhi sangam hai.Baap aur Maya ka bhi sangam hai"...
Also in Gyan marg, nothing is relative to vision(subjective), everything is objective.
Day and night cannot be seen differently; day is day and night is night; so likewise when there is vaishyalay(poisonous corrupted knowledge) in Advance Party, then there cannot be shivalay (absolute nectar of knowledge).
....please don't say so,Gyan marg is preferred first to vision that is why ShivBaba says that "Abhi tumhe teesra netra milta hai voh bhi jab baap dete hai."(Now you get the third eye that too when Father gives you)...how to see nirakari stage? and how to distinguish it among the fake stages?...we must have that vision..."Yaha par mool baat hai man buddhi ki"....of course Baba's knowledge is subjective as well as objective in different phases of stage....
even there is a concept of dawn and dask other than day and night....see to that!!!

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Post by RudraPutra » 09 Oct 2009

shivsena wrote:So has the permanent Chariot of Shiv himself stood in front of the PBKs and declared himself as purshottam among all.
The day he declares himself, then automatically 108 rudrabeads will unite under one Fatherhood.
...you wanna prove him 'Hiranyakashyap' or what? Baba had said in Murli that
"Tum nahi kahenge mujh baap ko Yaad karo.Tum baap ka gyaan sunaavenge.Haan kahenge ki 'Baba aise kehte hai'.Yeh baat badi achchi reeti samjhaate hai"----Mu. 1.7.68
("You won't say that you have to remember me(as)Father.You would preach Father's knowledge.Yes,(you)would say that 'Baba says like this.'")
for you and me or to anyone this is not the thing.....the corporeal media of Shiv himself won't say those sentences...he would always talk the way what has mentioned in Murli....so this is applicable to Ram's soul who himself is the permanent Chariot of Shiv....

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shivsena wrote: When the Chariot of God himself changes the predictions of destruction from 2000 to another date(not predicted) and the coming of Sister Vedanti from 1997 to 2007(both of which did not materialise), then why such a fuss is being created if i have made a prediction that after 2010 the collapse and breakdown of PBK family will be very evident to all PBKs. Is the breakdown not evident to PBKs who want to delibrately keep their eyes closed to all that is happening in the Advance Party.
...dear such statements were never said by ShivBaba in any of the Murli's....i have asked you earlier also to give me those Murli cassette number or VCD number but you had not done so.....Murli sentences are taken as prediction by some of the fellow members like you and when it did not happen the way how you people looked the so called Murli point as prediction, you finally started criticising Baba....
i told you that no process takes place suddenly....even the arrival of Vishnu(whom PBK's believe) is not the same so....it also takes time.....even active participation and passive participation are the two concepts....we cannot see her active participation....but we cannot ignore her passive participation....even in Avyakt Vani it has been stated that AFRICA is doing the real seva.....if you are very much hurry that that's your problem but ShivBaba says "Hurry is devils work"....sahaj rajyog takes time not like what you are accepting Baba says swarg will come and abra-ka-dabra boom---swarg came!!!....sorry but this is not a fairy tale dear this is real game....guns and roses both are real.....so deal it as it is....or else you would regret for not doing so....
Also the predictions of destruction in 1976 made in Murlis and Vanis also did not come true and no body questions about it, then why a soul's prediction of 2010 should be taken so seriously.
....it came true....Murli never ever says wrong...if you don't have that vision and even not ready to take any then how you would be able to see the practical outcome of that Murli points?...that is why i said that many concepts are subjectively related but if you stick with your own views without giving any other stream to come your way then how could you distinguish your view as the correct one with the rest?
It just shows that little things please little minds.
;-) you can consider what you like...but do you wanna say that you are not pleased by any thing so you are having large and jumbo mind?... :confused:

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Re: Sangamyug & purshottam Sangamyug.

Post by shivsena » 11 Oct 2009

RudraPutra wrote:
...dear such statements were never said by ShivBaba in any of the Murli's....i have asked you earlier also to give me those Murli cassette number or VCD* number but you had not done so.....Murli sentences are taken as prediction by some of the fellow members like you and when it did not happen the way how you people looked the so called Murli point as prediction, you finally started criticising Baba....
You can go through the early 90's 7 days Advance Course or you can ask the senior PBK sisters (who used to give course) whether or not it was predicted that vinash would come in the year 2000 or not.
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RudraPutra wrote:.the corporeal media of Shiv himself won't say those sentences...he would always talk the way what has mentioned in Murli....so this is applicable to Ram's soul who himself is the permanent Chariot of Shiv....
Murli says: "Bap aakar khud apna parichay dete hain". (the Father comes and gives his own introduction"); so why does not Shiva give his own introduction to Advance Party as it is believed by PBKs that it is Shiva who is giving the explanation of Murlis.

I can understand that the Chariot cannot say that HE is Ram's soul, but why cannot Shiva say that He is the blissfull Father, as Shiva had said in 1937 when HE entered Lekhraj Kirpalani ( according to BKs). When Shiva enters as Maa(in Lekhraj Kirpalani) HE can give his introduction in the beginning in 1937 but when HE enters as Father(in Baba dixit), why HE cannot say the same words.

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shivsena wrote:You can go through the early 90's 7 days Advance Course or you can ask the senior PBK Sisters (who used to give course) whether or not it was predicted that vinash would come in the year 2000 or not.
....sorry i am asking about what ShivBaba said in Murli....not what the PBK's of your time had predicted.....instead of keeping faith in ShivBaba if you keep faith on the words of some PBK's, who might have predicted so on basis of their churning, than i think no one can help you....because even PBK's are manushya and they can go wrong on basis of churning....
moreover whatever ShivBaba says is in behad....if you don't have that vision thats your problem because you are even not ready to take the third vision what ShivBaba is giving now....

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shivsena wrote:Murli says: "Bap aakar khud apna parichay dete hain". (the Father comes and gives his own introduction"); so why does not Shiva give his own introduction to Advance Party as it is believed by PBKs that it is Shiva who is giving the explanation of Murlis.
....yes of course Shiv BAAP gives his introduction and he is doing so, but it doesn't mean that he will tell you the name of the personality directly or with photo.....plzzz dear take it serious,ShivBaba has given his own introduction but if you prefer to accept 3rd grade Murli in papers rather than 1st grade of Murli -sammukhvani or 2nd grade of Murli -Vani by tape or VCD than it's really hard to make you anything understandable.....
I can understand that the Chariot cannot say that HE is Ram's soul, but why cannot Shiva say that He is the blissfull Father, as Shiva had said in 1937 when HE entered Lekhraj Kirpalani ( according to BKs). When Shiva enters as Maa(in Lekhraj Kirpalani) HE can give his introduction in the beginning in 1937 but when HE enters as Father(in Baba dixit), why HE cannot say the same words.
...in Murli it has been said that "Baap hai gupt"("Father is incognito")....so this Murli clearly states that Father loves to remain covert.....Brahma is mother's part and not Father's....so its sorted!!!
rest all required Murli points i think i had provided early.....so you can go through it again!!!

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