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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 28 Jan 2014

No Proof in Murlis that Sevakram gave DLR the explanation of his visions.

It is said in Advanced Knowledge that Dada Lekharaj (Brahma Baba) as was unable to understand the meaning of Sakshatkars (Holy sightings), Supreme Soul Shiv entered into Sevakram and explained the meaning of those Sakshatkars to Dada Lekharaj. The whole Advanced Knowledge is based on this assumption that Supreme Soul Shiv first entered into Sevakram and explained the meaning of Sakshatkars to Dada Lekharaj, thus sowed the seed of knowledge and hence Sevakram is Prajapita. Actually there is no proof for this assumption. On the other hand there are Murli points which contradict this assumption of PBKs.

Murli dt. 11-5-85, page-2:
"Baba (Brahma Baba) ko uchhal aaye na. Ooho. Baba (Shiv Baba) vishwa ka malik banaate hain, phir yah dhan maal kya karenge. Chhodo sab. Jaise pagal hote hain na. Sab kahane lage inko baithe baithe kya hua. Dhanda aadi sab chhodkar aa gaye. Khushi ka paara chadha gaya. Sakshatkar hone lage. Rajayee milni
hain. Parantu kaise milegi. Kya hoga yah kuch pata naheen. Bas milna hai. Usee khushi main sab chhod diya. PHIR DHEERE DHEERE KNOWLEDGE MILTI RAHTI HAI. Tum bachhe yahan school main aaye ho."

(In English):
Baba (Brahma Baba) cheered up, did'nt he. Wow. Baba (Shiv Baba) makes master of the universe, then what to do with this money and wealth. Leave everything. Like there are mad ones. Everybody started saying what happened to him without anything. Left all the business and came away. Holy sightings started to happen. Will get Kingdom. But how. what will happen knew nothing. Just will get it. Left everything in that happiness. THEN SLOWLY WILL BE GETTING KNOWLEDGE. You children have come to school here.

Murli dt. 1-4-85, page-3:
" Baap khud bataate hain maine kaha tha mai sadharan boodhe tan main aata hoon. Aakar tumko padhata hoon. Yah bhi sunte hain, attention to hamare oopar hai. Yah bhi student hai. Yah apne ko aur kuch nahee kahate. Prajapita so bhi student hai. Bhal isne vinash bhi dekha parantu samjha kuch bhi naheen. AAHISTE AAHISTE SAMAJHTE GAYE. JAISE TUM SAMAJHTE JAATE HO. Baap tumko samjhate hain. Beech main yah bhi samajhte jaate hain. Padhate rahate hain. Harek student purusharth karega padhane ka."
(In English):
Father himself tells - I told I come in simple old body. Teach you after coming. This one also hears, attention is on me. This one is also student. This one says nothing more about himself. Prajapita is also student. ALTHOUGH HE ALSO SAW DESTRUCTION BUT UNDERSTOOD NOTHING. SLOWLY WENT ON UNDERSTANDING. AS YOU GO ON UNDERSTANDING. Father explains to you. In between this one also goes on understanding. Keeps on reading. Every student does Purusharth of studying.

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 02 Mar 2014

The picture of samudra-manthan below shows asurs and devtas engaged in the act of samudra-manthan...asurs are holding the mouth-end, while devtas are holding the tail-end of the snake(symbolic of prajapita)...meaning that devtas(devi-gun dharan karnewale BKs) only follow the Murlis spoken by Lekhraj Kirpalani-prajapita...while asurs(PBKs) follow only the explanations coming from the mouth of their guru-Virendra Dev Dixit(supposed prajapita)....Many things emerged from the Ocean after sagar-manthan (halahal vish--amrut--kamdhenu cow and many Gyan-ratans )... Shankar is shown drinking the poison (halahal vish) symbolic of body-conscious adv-Gyan (jo 108 master Shankar ke gale mei hi atak jaata)...according to PBKs, Shankar is only one(Virendra Dev Dixit), but imo, master Shankar are 108 who will challenge the adv-Gyan with Maa-Saraswati ka Gyan (shown on top of head of Shankar)....this picture accurately shows what is happening at present in Sangamyug.

Av. Vani 17-12-84 says: " Maya ki shaktiwale govt. ko lalkar rahe hain. Ishwariya shakti wale Maya ko lalkar rahe hain. Maya ko lalkar karnewale ho naa; ghabrane wale toh nahin ho naa. Jaise woh kahete hamara rajya ho, aap bhi Maya ko lalkar karte ho, garjana se kahete ho ki ab hamara rajya ho; aise bahadur ho naa".
[meaning: " Maya power(PBKs) is challenging the govt.(BKs) ; Godly power(108) is challenging Maya power ; you are challenging Maya, is it not ; you(108) are not the ones who get scared(of Maya power) ; Just as they say (PBKs say to BKs) that our rule is going to come, you (108) also challenge Maya (personified) that our rule will come; Are you not such brave souls''.]

In the above Vani point avaykt Brahma is clearly describing the 3 powers towards the end of the behad ka drama in future: BK govt, Maya power(PBKs) and Godly power (108), which will be very clearly seperated as per their interpretations of Murli and Vani points and how the Maya power( 16000 PBKs) will challenge the BK govt.(9,00,000) and how the Godly power(108) will challenge the Maya power(PBKs) to form the rajdhani in future.

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 27 May 2014

27-5-14: " यह बहुत वन्डरफुल चटपटी नॉलेज है | यह नॉलेज अटपटी और खटपटी भी है |"
["This knowledge is interesting--difficult to understand and conflicting too."]

The above Murli point clearly points out that all Murli statements are not true...but truth is contained in the Murlis and we have to find out which Murli points are gems of knowledge (to be churned) and which Murli points are the cause of conflicts.

There are 2-paths hidden in Murlis: one is nivritti-marg and other is pravritti-marg and one must have the power of discrimination(parakhne ki shakti) to know which points are taking us in which direction....Murli points telling that parampita paramatma is a point of light will take us on nivritti-marg(nirakar philosophy)....on the other hand points like ''ALAF ko jaano toh Badshahi tumari'' and "mere yatharth roop ko sirf koto mei koi hi jaanega" , will take us on pravritti-marg.

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 19 Jun 2014

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Virendra Dev Dixit's adv-Gyan started with a bunch of lies in 1976 that he is going to be revealed as Bhagwan Shankar....from that day onwards that lie is piling up daily with more lies being written in Aivv literature and told in cassettes and vartalap cds...so much so that adv-Gyan has become a mountain of stinking lies....i wonder why PBKs cannot smell it.

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 02 Jul 2014

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Sakar Murlis of God Shiva contain the Truth...but Truth has been given in pieces and if we consider each statement of Murli as Truth, then we will not get the complete picture(Truth). ...Murli points are to be grouped under various Headings and churned deeply and then each heading has to be co-related with each other and then the complete Truth(nectar) will emerge.

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 23 Sep 2014

In a nutshell.
....BK-Gyan is Shivaism (half-truth)
....Pbk Gyan is Shankarism (total untruth-lies)
....Shaktism (Shiva and Maa adi-shakti are always combined) is the absolute truth.

The road to Final truth passes through Half-truth(bk-Gyan) and untruth(pbk-Gyan)

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 30 Sep 2014

Virendra Dev Dixit himself gives hints to PBKs in cds that he is telling lies, but PBKs still insist that he is future ShivBaba who is telling the truth.

In many cds and cassettes, -Virendra Dev Dixit has clearly said that "Put a drop of poison in a jar of milk, and the whole milk will become poison"....What is this poison ??.....By claiming himself to be Ram's soul in the Trimurti adv-course is the first drop of poison which makes the whole adv-course(milk) as poison, which PBKs have been lapping-up blindly without questioning.....so i request all PBKs to ask this to -Virendra Dev Dixit: "Which is the first drop of poison and which is this milk in Sangamyug ?."

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 05 Nov 2014

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Must read logical point for all PBKs.

Shiv-Bhagwanuvach through Lekhraj Kirpalani(supposed mother) says: "Deh sahit deh ke sab sambandh ko bhulo".("Forget your body and all bodily relations")
Shiv-Bhagwanuvach through Virendra Dev Dixit(supposed Father) says: "Deh mei shiv ko Yaad karo".("Remember shiv in a body")

How can ShivBap teach two different things through two different chariots.?? ...PBKs fully believe in the incarnation of Shiv in Lekhraj Kirpalani and so automatically the incarnation theory of Shiv in -Virendra Dev Dixit is just -Virendra Dev Dixit's manmat and pbk's illusionary belief.(as ShivBap's teachings cannot be contradictory)

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 23 Dec 2014

To all BKs-PBKs.

Murlis often say: "Jhooti-kaaya, jhooti Maya, jhoota sab sansar".
["The whole world is false, including the physical bodies and what you see with the two eyes is Maya."]

Which world is ShivBaba describing in the above Murli-point.??
BKs would interpret that the outside world is being described by ShivBaba as false.
PBKs would interpret that outside world and bk-world are false.

But the truth is that all the 3 worlds(outside world--bk world--pbk world) are false worlds as they are walkie-talkie-worlds and the true World is only the spiritual-astral world-suxmavatan (which is a movie world without sound), which has to be seen only with the third eye of knowledge and which is going to be revealed in future, where only Farishtas(angels with bodies of light and might) will roam around the world as Khudayee-kidmatgaars (messengers of God) and communicate with each other with thoughts (telepathy) and this is known as BHAGWAN KI LEELA in Bhakti-marg...(Mu: "Teri Leela tu hi jaane aur naa jaane koi")

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 04 Jan 2015

To all PBKs.......A very stunning Murli point which should serve as a eye-opener to many PBKs, who think that ShivBaba is giving them Advanced Knowledge.

In Murli 31-3-01, Shiva says "Bap kahete hai ki tumko grahasta vyavar mei rahena hai. Baba kabhi kissi ko kah nahi sakte ki tum ghar-bar chodo. NAHI. Grahasta vyavar mei rahete sirf antim janam pavitra banna hai. Baba ne kabhi kaha ki tum ghar-bar chodo?? bahut bacche ghar-grahasta mei rahete bhi ishwariya service karte hain, ghar chudaya nahi jaata. Baba kissi ko bhi chudate nahi hai."

Translation: "Father says you have to remain in the house-hold (and not surrender physically). Baba can never say to anybody that you leave the house-hold (and surrender) NEVER. You remain in the household and remain pure. Has Baba said to anybody anytime that you leave your house?? Many children do Godly service while remaining in the house, not by leaving the house. Baba never lets anyone leave the house-hold."

It is very clear from the above Murli that ShivBaba would never perform any action that would contradict his own words, which He has spoken in Sakar Murlis. So now there should be no doubt in the minds of PBKs, that it is not ShivBaba who is in charge of Advance Party and surrendering the souls, but it is manushya guru-Virendra Dev Dixit who is surrendering kanyas and matas on his own manmat.

The above Murli point should be copied and shown to Virendra Dev Dixit- in discussion sessions for his clarification.

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 15 Feb 2015

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For last 75 years, BKWSU is preaching nivritti-marg ka Gyan (half-truth) to masses and for last 40 years (since 1976) Aivv has been preaching untruth(lies) to the BKs and both think that they have the final truth.....so when anyone who challenges both orgs. and tells them that "Shiva and shakti are always combined and can never be seperated", then such souls are considered as lunatics.....but in the end only the TRUTH shall prevail. (satyameva-jayete)

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 20 Feb 2015

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The above quote is speaking about the spiritual food of BKWSU and Aivv in Sangamyug.

What is spiritual food for BKs is poison for PBKs.... and what is spiritual food(-Virendra Dev Dixit's jismani advance Gyan) for PBKs is bitter poison for BKs. [Spiritual theory of relativity]

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 23 Feb 2015

PBKs and -Virendra Dev Dixit have completely mis-interpreted and mis-understood the two most important words: "Sanmukh" and "Sakar".

'Sanmukh' does not means in front of physical eyes but in front of the third eye of intellect....what you perceive with the third eye is only the Truth.

'Sakar' does not mean some physical Sakar personality existing in a body of 5-tatwa....but Sakar means one who has got all the qualities of Shiv in Sangamyug.....and that personality in Bhakti marg is most well-known as Maa-adi-shakti (Mateshwari-Mama ) ....she is the only Sakar roop of Shiva in Sangamyug who to be remembered to become a true shivshakti.... Nirakar so Sakar and Sakar so nirakar (meaning: Shiva is shakti and shakti is Shiva)...and not to remember Virendra Dev Dixit or Lekhraj Kirpalani who have no qualities of Nirakar-shiv in them....just think about it.

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Those who believe that shiv is Nirakar bindi and his Chariot is Lekhraj Kirpalani-Krishna, they will belong to Devi-parivaar.

Those who believe that shiv is bindi and his Chariot is dehdhari-Virendra Dev Dixit, they will belong to Asuri-Ravan sampradaya.

Those who believe that Shiva and Shakti are one and the same (always combined), they will belong to Ishwariya-parivaar (true ruhani shivshaktis.)

The above 3-clans will be clearly visible in future, when revelation starts.

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 22 Jun 2015

Today's Murli 22-6-15 says : " सबका ड्रामा में पार्ट है। कितनी विशाल बुद्धि और खुशी रहनी चाहिए। ऊपर से लेकर सारा ज्ञान बुद्धि में है। ब्राह्मण ही ज्ञान उठाते हैं। न शूद्रों में, न देवताओं में यह ज्ञान है। अब समझने वाला समझे। जो न समझे उनका मौत है। पद भी कम हो जायेगा। स्कूल में भी नहीं पढ़ते हैं तो पद कम हो जाता है। "

[ " Everyone has a part to play in the Drama. You should have such broad intellects and also have such great happiness. All The Knowledge from the very top is in your intellects. Only you Brahmins take up this Knowledge. Neither 'shudras' nor deities have this Knowledge. Those who want to understand this will do so. It will be 'death' for those who don’t understand. Their status will also be reduced. In a school, if students don’t study, their status is reduced.']

The above Murli point has a very deep meaning and if BKs-PBKs interpret it is a literal sense, then they will be completely on the wrong track.....The point refers to the Sangamyugi drama where 3 sampradayas(Brahmins--Devtas--shudras) are playing their part incognito.....imo. the true Brahmins(full-cast brahmins) are those who have recognised Maa-adi-shakti Mateshwari(always combined with Father Shiv) as their combined mat-pita.....then there are Devi-sampradaya-BKs who have recognised Brahma-Lekhraj Kirpalani as combined Mat-pita with Shiv incarnating in him ....and finally the shudras(PBKs) who believe that their jismani guru-Virendra Dev Dixit is their combined Mat-pita with ShivBap and Brahma-badi-Maa incarnating in -Virendra Dev Dixit after 1969.....so in the end these 3 groups will be identified as per their beliefs.....and neither Devtas(BKs) nor Shudras(PBKs) will have the knowledge of combined Maa-Adi-shakti as personified ShivBaba....those who do not understand this subtle fact will have a reduced status, since they have not studied-churned the Gyan themselves.

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