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2-types of Gyan in Murlis: Nivritti-marg & Pravritti-marg

Post by shivsena » 05 Jul 2015

2-types of Gyan in Sakar Murlis:
“Nivritti-marg ka Gyan and pravritti-marg ka Gyan”.


After 10 years of studying-churning- researching on Sakar Murlis, i have come to the conclusion that Sakar Murlis contain 2-types of Gyan as per the Murli point: 9-10-04 : " Nivritti-marg walon ko pravritti-marg ki rasam-riwaz ka kuch bhi pataa nahi.” ....This Murli point is not describing the Nivritti-marg of the outside world (as most BKs think) but the point is giving a subtle hint to BKs that Nivritti-marg and pravritti-marg both exist in this Sangamyugi world of BKWSU.

Nivritti-marg ka Gyan (Dwait Gyan): Many Murli points tell us that paramatma shiv is bindi and so there must be a Chariot through which bindi-shiv can express itself.....these points are describing nivritti-marg ka Gyan and these points are very easily picked up by majority of BKs as these points are commonly repeated in Murlis daily.

Pravritti-marg ka Gyan(Adwait Gyan): In between the points of nivritti-marg, there are also points which tell us that though it is sung that paramatma is bindi, but only koto mei koi (one in ten million) will know the yatharth roop of Paramatma.....So the question arises: who is the yatharth roop of paramatma and who are these koto mei koi children who will recognise the yatharth roop.??

Both the above Gyan are hidden in Murlis and points will be interpreted as per the intellectual capacity of the soul, which will separate them into Raja(108) and praja.(9,16,000)
....the praja quality souls will just listen to Murlis as a ritual in the morning class and will never try to churn the gems of knowledge hidden in Murlis....they will take the literal meaning of Murli-mahavakyas and apply them in hadh ka drama (5000 years broad drama) and will remain completely ignorant about the Sangamyugi behad ka drama.
....whereas the 108-Raja-quality souls(Gyani-tu atmas) will have the curiosity to know more about Murli-mahavakyas and will have the discriminating power (parakhne ki shakti) to know which Murli-statement is an ordinary statement and which is a true gem of knowledge and they will have the ability to continuously churn on the gems and obtain the nectar. [“Apni ghot toh nasha chade”]

ShivBaba being Trikaldarshi Teacher has purposely incorporated both types of Gyan in Murlis, as HE has foreseen that both BKs-PBKs will believe that Nirakar shiv is bindi and will then fight on the issue of chariots.[Mu: “Vinash jwala Yagya-kund se nikli”]....while the 108 king souls of rudramala will research on the Murlis and will find out the combined Form of GOD Shiva (Maa adi-shakti Mama) and will remain gupt till the very end and take their kingdom by yogbal with Mama(personified ShivBaba)....while the bk(kauravs) and pbk(yadavs) will fight with bahubal in the near future over the Chariot and destroy their inheritance.

I am locking this topic, as i wish to make a database of Murli points which are interpreted differently by the 2-group of souls....if any member wishes to respond to any post in this topic, he is free to do so by asking his queries in the discussion forum topic : “Questions to shivsena” or through private message.

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Re: 2-types of Gyan in Murlis: Nivritti-marg & Pravritti-mar

Post by shivsena » 10 Jul 2015

Murlis mentions the following types of brahmins:

Half-cast and Full-cast Brahmins.
Matale and sautele bacche.
Sage and Lage bacche.
Hans and bagule bacche.
Right hand and Left hand bacche.
Saraswat and pushkarni brahmins.
Padhe and un-padhe bacche.


What is the criteria for the above categories of children to be seperated ??

Half-cast brahmins are those who recognise Father Shiv as Nirakar-bindi and will believe in the Chariot DLR(BKs) and -Virendra Dev Dixit(PBKs) ....While the full cast Brahmins will believe that Shiva is shakti and shakti is Shiva and the two cannot be seperated. Half-cast brahmins are nivritti-marg brahmins and full-cast brahmins are pravritti-marg Brahmins.

Matale-Sage-right hand bacche are pravritti-marg brahmins who will believe that Shiva and shakti are combined mat-pita....while sautele-lage-left hand bacche will believe that Father Shiva is bindi and forms pravritti with Chariot.(DLR or -Virendra Dev Dixit)....sautele(lage) bacche will never believe in the combined form of Shiva and shakti.

Hans(swans) are those bacche who will be able to distinguish between milk(gems of knowledge) and water(ordinary mahavakyas) contained in the Murlis.....while the bagulas(storks) will believe that all statements of Murli are true and will not have parakhne ki shakti as to which statement is true and which is false.

Saraswat brahmins are those Gyan-tu bacche who will recognise Maa-Jagdamba Saraswati as the personified roop of Father Shiva....while pushkarni brahmins are those who will never accept Mama as personified ShivBaba and will always accept Lekhraj Kirpalani- as the Chariot ...the rememberence of Pushkarni-brahmins is in pushkar-ajmer-rajasthan-India, where there is Brahma's temple.

Murli says: "Padhe-likhon ke aage un-padhe bhari dhoyenge"....Padhe likhe are those bacche who will study-churn the Murlis-Vanis themselves and have nischay on Mama as personified ShivBaba.....un-padhe are those bacche who just listen to Murli-Vanis without understanding or just blindly accept Aivv-guru-Virendra Dev Dixit's Murli clarifications.

The important thing to remember is that seperation criteria is based on belief and not on purusharth.
Let each bk-pbk churn on the above and decide for himself whether the above churning is right or not.

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Significance of 18th Jan Day.

Post by shivsena » 08 Aug 2015

A Must-read Av-Vani for all BKs-PBKs : Av-Vani 18-1-84:

The following points are most important to read and churn:

6th point: Aaj ka din Bap ka backbone ban bacchon ko vishwa ke aage rakhne ka din hai. Bap backbone hai aur bacche well-known hai.

9th point: Aaj ka din bacchon ke darpan dwara BapDada ke prakhyat hone ka din hai.

10th point: Jagat ke bacchon ko Jagatpita ka parichay dene ka din hai.

14th point: Aaj ka din sirf smruti ka din nahi hai, lekin ''Smriti-so-samarthy" divas hai.

15th point: Aaj ka din seva ki jimmedari ke tajposhi ka din hai.(Day of Coronation)

All PBKs should read this Vani and ask guru-Virendra Dev Dixit about the meaning of the points and significance of 18th jan date.
All BKs should ask their Seniors about the same.


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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 22 Aug 2015

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TRUTH (ie. Shiva and shakti are Supreme Divine couple and eternally combined) has never denied a true seeker.....but BKs-PBKs have denied the TRUTH by preaching wrong Gyan and not seeking the TRUTH sincerely.

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 27 Aug 2015

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TO all PBKs.....if any pbk has any doubt about -Virendra Dev Dixit being the Sakar form of God-ShivBaba, then he should read the above quote again and again and start doing his own study of Murlis-Vanis....or think about the points posted on the forum which go against -Virendra Dev Dixit being ShivBaba and should start searching for the ABSOLUTE TRUTH himself.....IT IS NEVER TOO LATE.

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 21 Sep 2015

Today's Murli 21-9-15 says: " जैसे बाप को संकल्प उठा कि मैं जाऊं तो बाप कहते हैं मैं आता हूँ और मेरी वाणी चलनी शुरू हो जाती है। "

When did ShivBap start narrating Murlis in bk-family and when did ShivBap start narrating the clarification of Murlis in pbk-family. ??

According to above Murli, ShivBap incarnates and starts narrating Vanis-Murlis immediately....but neither ShivBap started narrating Murlis in 1937 through Lekhraj Kirpalani- nor ShivBap started narrating clarifications through -Virendra Dev Dixit in 1969....so the simple conclusion is that both BKs-PBKs are preaching lies and doing the shooting of jhoot-khand. ....the final truth is yet to come.

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 31 Oct 2015

All PBKs should read this quote several times and ask themselves whether they have accepted their guru-Virendra Dev Dixit as GOD-ShivBaba on evidences in Murlis-Vanis (churned by them)...or their belief is blindly based on -Virendra Dev Dixit's teachings only. !!! ???
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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 13 Nov 2015

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Lies(bk-pbk Gyan) are sold very easily, because very few have the capacity to understand and discriminate the TRUTH.(Mother Saraswati's wisdom)

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 22 Dec 2015

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It requires wisdom to understand that Goddess of Wisdom--Goddess of intellect--Goddess of Knowledge--Mama-Saraswati is the personified form of ShivBaba in Sangamyug and will be revealed as ''Bharatmata-shivshakti avataar'' in the near future.

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 26 Jan 2016

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The above quote is perfectly applicable to Aivv-PBKs and their guru-Virendra Dev Dixit.

The sentence " Never trust someone who lies to you" should be read by PBKs, who blindly trust their guru-Virendra Dev Dixit, when he repeatedly lies to them that he is living ShivBaba.

The sentence "Never lie to someone who trusts you" should be read by guru-Virendra Dev Dixit who lies to his followers-PBKs (who trust him blindly) that he is living ShivBaba.

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 04 Apr 2016

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Every bk-pbk should read this quote and remind himself that he does not have to believe blindly what everyone else is doing in BKWSU and Aivv.....He has to find his own path by churning the Murlis-Vanis himself ( "Apni ghot toh nasha chade")

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 10 May 2016

Different interpretations of same Murli point:

Murli 11-4-16 says: "यह तो बेहद का दिन और बेहद की रात है, जिसको कहा जाता है ब्रह्मा का दिन– सतयुग त्रेता, ब्रह्मा की रात– द्वापर कलियुग। रात में अन्धियारा होता है। मनुष्य ठोकरें खाते रहते हैं। भगवान को ढूँढने के लिए चारों तरफ फेरे लगाते हैं, परन्तु परमात्मा को पा नहीं सकते। परमात्मा को पाने के लिए ही भक्ति करते हैं। द्वापर से भक्ति शुरू होती है अर्थात् रावण राज्य शुरू होता है।"

Most BKs interpret the above point as applicable to Broad Drama (Hadh ka Drama) ie. Brahma"s day is Satyug-treta(2500 years) and Brahma ki raat is Dwapur-Kaliyug (2500 years) ....but there is no Brahma in Broad drama....so the point is describing the Sangamyugi Behad ka Drama, where Brahma ki raat started after 1969 when Brahma-Lekhraj Kirpalani became avaykt and no one was there to guide the BKs....,so this night of ignorance which started in BKWSU then spread to all other breakaway groups and all Manushya ie. BKs--PBKs etc etc started interpreting the Murlis as per their intellect and mixing manmat with Shrimat.....after 1969 BKs claim that BapDada is coming in Gulzar Dadi....PBKs claim that ShivBaba is coming in their guru-Virendra Dev Dixit....Vishnu-party says that Dashrath Bhai is God-personified---and Nagraj-party says that their Guru is Shankar-Bhagwan and so on.(as per Murli point: "When Father is not present, the brothers fight with each other")

Now(2016) at the fag end of Brahma-ki-raat (Dwapur-Kaliyug ki shooting) all students and their gurus have become frustated as they themselves do not know the truth and at the climax 2017-2018 all groups will fight each other as predicted in Murli ( "Bharat mei Grah-yudh aur khoon ki nadiyan bahengi "..."Haa-haa-kaar ke baad jai-jai-kaar hogi.")....and in 2019 Brahma ka Din will start and Final Truth will be revealed as Vishnu ka viraat-roop (as per Murlis) and Rajdhani of 916108 will be established and then will begin the physical destruction of the outside world.

This is the touching received by BapDada while churning the Murlis-Vanis.....Baba comes in Sangamyug and is talking to Sangamyugi Brahmins about the subtle(behad) ka Sangamyugi Drama which is ulta-Kalpa-vriksha (inverted kalp-tree) where night of Brahma comes first and then comes Day of Brahma....Baba always talks about this Behad ka Drama but BKs take it in the literal sense and cannot become Trikaldarshi and know about what is going to happen in near future.

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 21 May 2016

To all BKs-PBKs.

Recent Murli 18-5-16 : "सबसे अच्छा धन्धा जवाहरात(Gyan-ratano) का होता है। उनमें(Gyan-ratano mei) सच और झूठ को बड़ा मुश्किल समझते हैं। यहाँ(Sangamyug mei) भी सच(Maa ka Gyan) छिपा हुआ है, झूठ ही झूठ(false bk-pbk Gyan) चलता रहता है। यह भी ड्रामा(Sangamyugi drama) में नूँध है।"

[ "The best business is jewellery business (recognising gems of knowledge in Murlis-Vanis)...In this business it is very difficult to recognise real gems of Gyan and false gems...Here(in Sangamyug) also the TRUTH (Maa adi-shakti) is hidden, only false (bk-pbk Gyan) is going on...this is also as per Drama''.] (Sangamyugi shooting of jhoot-khand going on in BKWSU and Aivv.)

All BKs-PBKs are requested to apply the above point with respect to this behad ka Sangamyugi drama and understand the behad ka meaning.

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 17 Jun 2016

Murli point describing the future of Yagya.

Murli 15-6-16 says: " पानी की हद पर भी कितना झगड़ा चलता रहता है। दुश्मनी लगी पड़ी है। आपस में एक दो को ब्रदर्स समझते नहीं। सिर्फ ऐसे ही कह देते हैं कि हम सब एक हैं। एक तो हो न सकें। अनेक आत्मायें हैं, सबका अपना-अपना पार्ट है।"

In the above Murli point, Trikaldarshi ShivBaba is describing the future fight(in 2017-18) between the many groups which are forming in Sangamyug over Gyan ka pani....all groups have been BKs sometime in past and consider Brahma-Lekhraj Kirpalani as their mother and consider themselves as brothers....but every group has its own belief and these 7 groups can never be united, as they are souls of different religion and doing the shooting of broad drama.

Only after these 7 groups fight each other, the gates of heaven will be opened as per Murli point: "Mahabhari Mahabharat is gateway to heaven." .

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Re: Food for thought for all PBKs

Post by shivsena » 01 Jul 2016

Sharing my views about 4-heads of Brahma and 8-Narayans & 8-gardens of Satyug based on study of Murlis-Vanis.
World Drama wheel shows the 4-main religions of the world viz:
1- Adi-sanatan Devi-Devta dharm (continued as Hinduism)
2- Islam religion established by Ibrahim.
3- Buddhism established by Buddha.
4- Christianity established by Christ.

Kalpa-vriksha picture shows 4-more religions which are really off-shoots of the above 4 main religions viz:
Muslim religion--Sanyas religion--Sikkhism--Arya Samaj.

There is a very deep connection of the 8 above religions with 8-LN and 8-Gardens of Satyug.

Regarding the 4-heads of Brahma, the head-body of 1st Brahma represents the role of Prajapita Brahma-Lekhraj Kirpalani played in Sangamyug (in whom Nirakar-ShivBaba incarnated and is establishing Adi-sanatan Devi-Devta Dharm.)
....the rest 3-heads represents the 3-souls who tried to copy Prajapita Brahma-Lekhraj Kirpalani after 1969 and claim to be Prajapita (with shiv incarnating in them) ..these 3 souls are the 2nd--3rd--4th Narayan of Satyug and were all students of BKWSU and accepted Lekhraj Kirpalani as Prajapita Brahma...but later on they seperated out from BKWSU as per drama plan and formed their own groups by the name of Aivv -- Vishnu-party and Nagraj-party respectively.....these 3-souls do not take full 84 births and are really the adhaarmurt-souls of Islam-Buddhism-Christianity in whom the Founding Fathers of these 3 religions will descend from Paramdham from Dwapur-yug onwards & incarnate in them and establish their respective religions (as per Murli point : "Sab dharm ka adha sukh ka part hai aur adha dukh ka part hai").
....Similarly the last 4 Narayans of Satyug are adhaarmurt souls of the last 4 religions(as mentioned above) and will get converted into their respective religions after Dwapur-yug ....Only the 1st Narayan-Lekhraj Kirpalani and his praja are 16 kalaa sampoorna and will take 84 births, while all the other 7 Narayans are actually girti-kalaa wale Vidharmi-Narayans (1/4 degree less in each birth)... all 8-Narayans and their praja will have seperate 8-Gardens in Satyug and they will never interact with each other, as their beliefs were totally different from each other in Sangamyug.....All the Narayans and their Praja will become Hindus after Dwapur-yug but only those who have taken 84 births will remain Hindus till the end of Kaliyug...while the 7 girti-kalaa wale Narayans and their praja will get converted into their respective religions as and when they are established.....These 7-Narayans are remembered in Bhakti as Sapt-rishis (seven sages), the mind-born sons (manas-putra) of Brahma-Creator.

This is my view as per the churning of Murlis.
...your views are awaited.

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