Interesting post Fluffy Bhai; which for me only goes to further confirm what ShivBaba is saying now in AK; that the Ravan community of the BK's, have never really followed His Shrimat, but were more attracted by the lap or personality of Brahma Baba. With Mama and Brahma Baba long gone by 1976; there was nothing to really stop these body conscious gurus, from following their own agendas; as Shrimat had now become an "optional extra", used to keep the poor "subjects" under their control. I had a memorable meeting with Dadi Janki, back in '88; before which time, i had held her in fairly high regard. I was one of the lucky ones; as my teacher protected me from the worst excesses of the brahmin family, and their lack of adherence to Shrimat... but even souls under his guidance, usually preferred to go for the false limelight, offered by the Dadis in London; and this meeting was conjured up in my little home town, in order to kowtow us few "rebels", and bring us into the mainstream, of supposed, Gyani service. I was most disappointed with Dadi on this day; who i felt showed us no respect at all; there was nothing divine in her manner what so ever as far as i was concerned; she had just come to give us a good ticking off, and get us to comply with mainstream thinking. Her assistant, was totally arrogant, and simply looked down on us all as she severely chastised us. I'll never forget the grilling, Dadi gave one sister; i felt really sorry for her, although i don't think she was too troubled by it herself, tough cookie that she was/is! :D In light of AK, and the testimonies of souls like yourself Fluffy Bhai; this little meeting, makes so much more sense than it did at the time. Long before i came to know of AK; i was feeling more and more, that the Brahmin movement, had become but a shadow of its former self; coming across as some bland New Age movement; rather than the revolutionary powerful one, it should really be(what happened to the knowledge?). No wonder finding AK, switched the light back on in my head; for once more, AK was representing the true meaning, of what it is to be to be a Brahmin effort maker... or more accurately... a Prajapita Brahma Kumar(PBK).