Brahma Kumaris holding out the begging bowl again ...

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Brahma Kumaris holding out the begging bowl again ...

Post by fluffy bunny » 08 Apr 2012

Another case of the BKs holding out the begging bowl in contradiction to their Gyan which specifically states they should not to so. Hypocrites.

What a joke ... look at the list of activities they are claiming! "Art & Culture, Disaster Management, Education & Literacy, New & Renewable Energy, Women's Development & Empowerment, Youth Affairs".

From: www.charity.org.in.

I suppose they want to cash in on the success of BK Shivani TV shows and so on ...
Organization Name: World Renewal Spiritual Trust
Charity Type: Art & Culture, Disaster Management, Education & Literacy, New & Renewable Energy, Women's Development & Empowerment, Youth Affairs
Email Address: trimurtishiva@gmail.com

Website URL: http://brahmakumaris.com
Address: 121, Mahatma Gandhi Road, Above Bank of Baroda, Fort, Mumbai-400023
City: Mumbai
Phone 1: 02974-228101
Phone 2: 9413373440
Promotor Name: Ramesh Nanalal Shah
Registration Number: 189
Date of Registration: 1969-01-16
Charity Organization Information: Charity Commissioner Trust

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Re: Brahma Kumaris holding out the begging bowl again ...

Post by fluffy bunny » 08 Apr 2012

And again ... from India One, they are look for people to sponsor an energy system for their Shantivan Campus in Abu Road, Rajasthan.
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The project is executed by the World Renewal Spiritual Trust (WRST) with headquarters in Mumbay and local branch in Shantivan Campus. The Trust is a registered Charity and will issue for Indian donors the 80 G (5) tax certificate. Therefore kindly do send /courier your donation via cheque in the name of World Renewal Spiritual Trust to

World Renewal Spiritual Trust
Attn: BK Lalit Bhai (Solar Project)
Accounts Bhawan,
Post-Shantivan,
Abu Road - 307510, Dist: Sirohi (Rajasthan)

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Re: Brahma Kumaris holding out the begging bowl again ...

Post by arjun » 09 Apr 2012

Now they cannot claim that their slogan is 'better to die than to beg' as stated in the Murlis.

"Baap raasta bataatey hain – apney oopar raham va kripa karnee hai. Teacher toh padhaatey hain, aasheervaad toh nahee karengey. Aasheervaad, kripa raham aadi maangney say marnaa bhalaa. Koi say paisa bhi nahee maangna chaahiye. Bachhon ko sakhta manaa hai. Baap kahtey hain drama anusaar jinhoney Kalpa pehley beej boya hai, varsaa paaya hai vah aapey hee karengey. Tum koi kaam kay liye mango nahi. Nahee karega toh nahi paayega. Manushya daan-punya kartey hain toh return may miltaa hai na. Raja kay ghar va sahookaar kay paas janma hota hai. Jinko karnaa hoga vah aapeyhee karengey, tumko maangnaa nahee hai. Kalpa pehley jinhoney jitnaa kiya hai, drama unsay karaayega. Maangney kee kyaa darkaar hai. Baba toh kahtey rahtey hain hundi bhartee rahti hai, service kay liye. Ham bachhon ko thodey hee kahengey paisa do. Bhakti maarg kee baat gyaanmaarg may nahee hotee. Jinhonay Kalpa pehley madad kee hai, vah kartey rahengey. Aapeyhee kabhi maangnaa nahee hai. Baba kahtey bachhey chandacheera tum ikattha nahee kar saktey. Yah toh sanyaasi log kartey hain. Bhakti maarg may thoda bhi detey hain, uska return may ek janma kay liye miltaa hai. Yah fir hai janma-janmaantar kay liye. Toh janma-janmaantar kay liye sab kuchh dey denaa achha hai na. Inka toh naam bhola bhandaari hai. Tum purushaarth karo toh vijaymaala may piroye ja saktey ho, bhandaara bharpoor kaal-kantak door hai." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 22.11.05, page 3& 4)

“Father shows the path – one has to show mercy or pity upon oneself. Teacher teaches; He will not give blessings. It is better to die rather than to seek blessings, mercy, and pity. One should not seek money from anyone. Children are strictly prohibited (from doing so). Father says that as per drama those who have sown the seed and obtained the inheritance in the previous Kalpa will do automatically. You do not seek for any task. If anyone does not do then he/she will not gain. People give alms or perform good deeds, then they get returns, isn’t it? They take birth in the house of a king or a prosperous person. Those who have to do, will do automatically. You must not seek. To whatever extent whoever has done in the previous Kalpa, the drama will make them to do. Where is the need to seek? Baba keeps telling that the hundi (boxes kept in the temples for offerings of money to God) keeps getting filled for service. Will I tell the children, “Give money?” The matters of path of worship (Bhaktimarg) do not exist in the path of knowledge (gyaanmarg). Those who have helped in the previous Kalpa will keep helping. One must never seek on one’s own. Baba says, “Children, you cannot collect funds.” This is done by Sanyasis (monks). In the path of worship, even if we give a little, then we get in return for one birth. But this is for many births. So it is good to give everything for many births, isn’t it? His name is Bhola Bhandari (in literal sense, it means an innocent storekeeper or treasurer; it is also a title of Shiv-Shankar in the path of worship). If you make efforts then you can become beads of the rosary of victory (vijaymala). The storehouse is full; and the famines and difficulties are far away.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 22.11.05, page 3 & 4 published by BKs)

- Baba is telling that it is better to die rather than to seek and that we cannot collect funds. But it has been seen generally that financial cooperation is sought at almost every BK center. Are the mega-programmes being organized all over India spending crores of rupees without seeking money from anyone? And if financial cooperation is sought directly or indirectly, then is it not a violation of Godly directions?

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