1)I do not think so. I believe by punishment, one can become pure, not soul conscious. Is there any Murli point supporting your statement? Or is it according to PBK philosophy?
There is no difference between purity and soul consciousness. One can become pure only when one becomes soul conscious.
“याद तो एक शिवबाबा को ही करना है तो स्वर्ग में जरूर जायेंगे। जो भी आते हैं भल फिर जाकर पतित बनते हैं तो भी स्वर्ग में जरूर आयेंगे। सज़ायें खाकर, पावन बनकर फिर भी आयेंगे जरूर। बाप रहमदिल है ना।“
(ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक ०९.०२.०९, पृ. २)
"Just remember ShivBaba. You have to remember one ShivBaba. Then you will certainly go to heaven. Whoever comes, although they go and become sinful, they will certainly come in heaven. They will certainly come (to heaven) even if they have to become pure by suffering punishments. The Father is merciful, isn’t he?”
(Revised Sakar Murli dated 09.02.09, pg 2 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
“बेहद का बाबा आया हुआ है, सभी आत्माओं को ले जाने। इसलिए यहाँ कोई से दिल नहीं लगानी है। यह सब यहाँ के छी-छी बंधन हैं। तुम समझते हो हम अब पवित्र बने हैं तो हमारे शरीर को कोई भी हाथ न लगाये, छी-छी ख्यालात से। वह ख्यालात ही निकल जाते हैं। पवित्र बनने सिवाए वापिस घर तो जा न सकें। फिर सज़ायें खानी पड़ेगी, अगर न सुधरे तो। इस समय सभी आत्मायें अनसुधरेली हैं। शरीर के साथ-साथ छी-छी काम करती हैं। छी-छी देहधारियों से दिल लगी हुई है। बाप आकर कहते हैं – यह सब गन्दे ख्याल छोड़ो। आत्मा को शरीर से अलग होकर घर जाना है।“
(ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली दिनांक ३०.०६.०९, पृ.१)
“Unlimited Baba has come to take all the souls with Him. This is why you should not give your heart to anyone here. All these are dirty bondages of this place. You realize that we have now become pure; so nobody should touch our body with dirty thoughts. Those thoughts vanish. We cannot go back home without becoming pure. Then, if you do not reform you will have to suffer punishments. At this time all the souls are unreformed. They perform dirty actions through the body. They love dirty bodily beings. The Father comes and says – Leave all these dirty thoughts. The soul has to separate from the body and go home.”
(Revised Sakar Murli dated 30.06.09, pg 1 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)
2)again contradiction or the query remains unanswered. Is it not just 8 attain soul conscious by effort? Then how come many saaligraams being worshipped?
unfortunately- it makes me to write same thing repeatedly to make you understand.
I have answered your question in another thread several times. Unfortunately you are deliberately pretending to be ignorant.
So- hope you will realize why BKWSU also does not now allow each and everyone to meet their Chariot (Dadi) or gives permission to ask querries at present. It will become market place then.
Nice excuse for being unable to answer.
Would you like to mention the present number of PBKs?
You can ask AIVV directly.
again personal comment-
U r doing the same thing repeatedly, but we don't point out. In fact we don't care. Baba has said that we all have to become kalankidhar. So, it is no surprise if you keep defaming the PBKs.