1) PBKs say- we believe in 'ShivBaba', but they are referring to THEIR 'ShivBaba', who THEY DELUSIVELY believe uses the Chariot or body of Virendra Dev Dixit, AFTER 1969, and NOT to REAL ShivBaba. It is like someone saying I believe in God, by showing the picture of SATAN or a HUMAN, or like believing LIME to be BUTTER.sita wrote:The definition of an angel is one who has connection with only one God. He does not have connection with the ground, the feet of his intellect does not touch the ground, the soil of body-consciousness. And it was said we have to reach Avyakt stage, whilst being in the body, and that before becoming deities, we pass through the stage of an angel. From Brahman we become an angel and from an angel we become a deity. So for PBKs angels definitely exist practically. Shankar is said to be an angel.
2a) Definition of angel given by PBKs is AGAIN HALF-BAKED!
LOTS OF Murli POINTS SAY- ANGEL or ANGELIC STAGE CAN BE EITHER IN SUBTLE BODY, or IN A CORPOREAL BODY. But, the former one is superior to the latter one.
2b) The definition of an angel FITS MOST APPROPRIATELY to the soul of DLR or Brahma Baba, to the HIGHEST POSSIBLE EXTENT! BB is one who has connection with only one God (refer to the relevant AV - "WE TWO CANNOT BE SEPARATED FROM EACH OTHER EVEN FOR ONE MOMENT"). BB does not have connection with the ground (of the physical or corporeal body, after he became Avyakt in 1969); the feet of the intellect of BB do not touch the ground, or the soil of body-consciousness (like in the case of Virendra Dev Dixit and the PBKs). BB ALREADY REACHED his Avyakt stage, WHILE being in his CORPOREAL body, (EVEN BEFORE LEAVING HIS CORPOREAL BODY, MANY other souls PRACTICALLY SAW both his ANGELIC form, as well as his DEITY form, through their OWN PHYSICAL EYES, THROUGH his OWN PREVIOUS CORPOREAL BODY); and before becoming a deity of G A, he is now passing through the stage of a COMPLETE angel in his SUBTLE body. From Brahman we become an angel, (BB has ALREADY BECOME A COMPLETE ANGEL , while Virendra Dev Dixit is STILL IN THE PROCESS of BECOMING what he is claiming, he, and all others, should become), and from an angel we become a deity (BB is FULLY QUALIFIED to become a DEITY, but Virendra Dev Dixit has STILL TO ACQUIRE that qualification).
So for PBKs, angels definitely exist ONLY THEORETICALLY - ONLY IN THEIR EXPECTATION AND IN THEIR IMAGINATION, AND NOT IN THEIR PRACTICAL APPLICATION, AS YET!
Shankar is said to be an angel, BUT EVEN BRAHMA IS SAID TO BE AN ANGEL!!!
2c) So PBKs are only holding on to an idea, which NEITHER Virendra Dev Dixit, NOR any one of them have AS YET ACHIEVED, and demonstrated PRACTICALLY; while BB has ALREADY ACHIEVED that COMPLETE STAGE OF A COMPLETE ANGEL, AFTER ACTUAL PRACTICAL DEMONSTRATION ON THE CORPOREAL SPHERE IN FRONT OF EMBODIED SOULS!!! - [LOTS OF Avyakt Murli POINTS CLEARLY SAY THESE].
2d) But, as per PBKs, no angel can exist just in subtle body. Angel should be in corporeal body only. In this way, they have murdered even the concept of angel. Any angel, who exists in subtle body, as per PBKs philosophy, is just like a 'ghost'.
ON THE CONTRARY, NO COMPLETE ANGEL CAN EXIST IN A CORPOREAL BODY, AND HAS TO ESSENTIALLY EXIST IN A SUBTLE BODY! And any individual who claims that he is an 'ANGEL' in a CORPOREAL body, is ONLY A 'GHOST', like Virendra Dev Dixit! So, by 'WORSHIPING' a physically embodied 'GHOST', like Virendra Dev Dixit, DELUSIVELY BELIEVING him to be 'living' 'ShivBaba', the PBKs are, IN FACT, 'worshiping' ONLY a GHOST IMAGE of 'ShivBaba', and have NO CHANCE of resorting to ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED remembrance of REAL ShivBaba or God, to enable them to become soul-conscious in Confluence Age, other than through physical DESTRUCTION or TRANSFORMATION!
2e) Moreover, PBKs inadvertently IMPLY that even THEIR OWN concept of an angel does not practically exist at all. AS PER PBKs, the 'BULL' RIDES ON Shankar, ALMOST THROUGHOUT the Confluence Age, AND HENCE THEIR 'ASSUMED' CONCEPT OF Shankar CAN NEVER BE THAT OF AN ANGEL PRACTICALLY, BOTH FROM THEIR OWN MISAPPROPRIATED VIEWS, AS WELL AS LOGICALLY. WE CAN SEE HERE, WHAT A GREAT SUICIDE Mr DIXIT HAS COMMITTED BY IMPLYING THAT SOUL OF DLR IS IN HIM, AND, AT THE SAME TIME, IMPLYING THAT DLR IS INCOMPLETE or a GHOST.
3) Silly argument of PBKs is AGAIN VISIBLE here. Baba says angel to all the subtle deities B, V, S - and NOT just to Shankar. But, Baba has also said- PRACTICALLY, Vishnu (one having four hands) does not exist. It represents combination of L and N. So, BOTH Shankar and subtle Brahma are fit for the title of ANGEL. - See post No. 78- COMMON THINGS BETWEEN THE TWO. - viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2422&p=50438#p50438
BUT- If we see the point No. 08), Baba says- JUST Brahma ALONE WOULD BE IN Subtle Region. - viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2422&p=50866&hilit=akelaa#p50866.
This is a great setback to PBKs who try to defame or criticize Brahma Baba.
4)And, none of the Murli points say- Mr Dixit or corporeal human being is Shankar. More PBKs try to discriminate between Brahma and Shankar, more they create ropes to hang themselves, as -
a)Murli points clearly say- "Shankar and Vishnu cannot be called as Prajapita. Shankar and Vishnu NEITHER BECOME WIFE, NOR Chariot OF GOD". So, all these prove that in the SAME BODY, ONE CANNOT PLAY ROLE OF Shankar as well as PRAJAPITA.
b)Also- Baba has kept all the subtle deities at almost equal positions, but as per PBK philosophy, there is a long gap between their Shankar and the other two. So, goes against Murli points, and even logic, as well as from lowkik points of view.