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Re: Flaws in PBK Philosophy

Post by mbbhat » 05 Mar 2018

# Flaw No. 565) More examples proving flaws in PBK concept of 'TITLE HOLDER' or 'INCHARGE' position:-

501) A lot is already said earlier.
[Refer to Flaw No.s 64, 78, 163, 178, 196, 292, 293, 294, 409, 467, 526, etc.]
Few more points adding to the topic.
----Mr. Dixit had been absent in Yagya for around six months (when he was in jail) in 1998. To whom had he given incharge position?

502)
---Now, from around December 2017 TILL DATE, Mr. Dixit is absconding. Let us consider this absconding also is like taking LEAVE (if PBKs like, because the word ABSCONDING is like a shame). To whom and how the incharge or the title Holder position is given?

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# Flaw No. 566) Yaadavaas too riding on PBK Shankar

503) Mr. Dixit is being controlled by lokik worldly laws to such an extent, that he is absconding from past around 3 Months.
So, now, where is Bhakti Marg memorial of this?

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Re: Flaws in PBK Philosophy

Post by mbbhat » 10 Mar 2018

# Flaw No. 567) Mr. Dixit trying to save himself from Bhasmaasur?

504) One of the PBKs believe the three months absconding of Mr. Dixit is his part of saving himself from Bhasmaasur.

PBKs may kindly prove who is Bhasmaasur and how come the role of Bhasmaasur has started just before three months?* - viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2640&p=53562#p53562

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2696&p=53547#p53547

* - The point is - who is Bhasmaasur here? Ex PBKs who had given complaints or lowkik govt/court or ... ?

The same allegations had been put on Mr. Dixit even before. But, why this is special?

Kindly also address about what PBKs mean by independence as well as how many times Mr. Dixit enters into his so called (spiritual) womb.

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Re: Flaws in PBK Philosophy

Post by mbbhat » 10 Jun 2019

# Flaw No. 568) In PBK view-

---number of chariots are only 2,
---God speaks Murlis through 3,
---number of Brahmas are 5! and
---claim in whomsoever Shiv enters, they should be named as Brahma, but limit number of Brahmas to FIVE!!!
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Total foolishness, is it not?
http://bk-pbk.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t= ... omb#p49060

30 May 2015, 17:43

VCD 1259, C.No.1745, Dhulawadi (Nepal),
Mu. 28.09.68, Dt. 04.03.10
Part-3

You should not become ready to accept anything without proof and evidence. Yes, the Father says: I ride this permanent Chariot (body) and explain to you children. A permanent Chariot as well as a temporary Chariot is mentioned. [The Father] says: Whichever body I enter, I name it as Brahma. So, is there one Brahma or are there many [Brahmas]? There is certainly one Brahma but there is one permanent Chariot, and is there [just] one Brahma? There are many Brahmas. When there is one permanent Chariot and there are many Brahmas, ...
In PBK view, there are only two chariots, temporary and permanent.
But, they claim God spoke Murlis or gave knowledge regularly for years through three chariots (from 1937 till 1942, through Sevakram *(or previous birth of Mr. Dixit); from 1942 till 1947, through previous birth of Kamala Devi; from 1947 till 1969, through B Baba; from 1969 till 1976 (absent?!); from 1976 onward, through present body of Mr. Dixit.


PBKs (mis)use the Murli point saying "In whom I enter, that Chariot should be named as Brahma" to manipulate the right figure (of Brahma) from ONE to FIVE.

But, when the Murli point says - whomsoever I enter, it should be named as Brahma, PBKs limit number of Brahmas only to 5. How come? Who has given them such authority to (mis)interpret the Murli point?

This proves that they PBKs take the Murli points FOR GRANTED. they deeply fail to realize that they have fallen into their own trap, and are hence definitely highest Kumbhkarnas.

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Re: Flaws in PBK Philosophy

Post by mbbhat » 01 Sep 2019

# Flaw No. 569) TOO MANY are next to God - as per PBKs:-

1) In BK view- just two souls (Meru daanaa) are next to God. Sometimes baba places Brahma ahead, sometimes Mama. But, they are the top two seeds (one very next to each other). So- one or two next to God does not create any confusion. Now-

From - http://bk-pbk.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t= ... omb#p48287
Mr. Dixit c/o arjun wrote: VCD No.564, C.No.1050, Bahadurgarh,
Mu.05.06.67, Dt.01.12.06
Part-4

Krishna was not only the master of Vaikunth. What? He was the master of the whole world. How many [people] are there in the world? He used to rule over the hearts of all the five-seven billion human beings that existed. Who? The Confluence Age Krishna. [You may also] call him Prajapita. It is because it is said in the Murli: Next to God is Prajapita, next to God is Krishna, next to God is Narayan [and] next to God is Shankar. Call him Shankar, call him Prajapita, call him the Confluence Age Krishna or Narayan it is one and the same thing. So, they don’t know whether Krishna was the master of Vaikunth or the master of the whole world. Now it is in your intellect that the Confluence Age Krishna was the master of the whole world as well as Vaikunth. What? When he has created Vaikunth, he will be its master too.
2) Murli never says- Krishna = Ram = Shankar , etc.

Murli says BVS (sometimes LN too) are next to Shiv. It also says B becomes V, or BS become LN (RK). [But, not in same birth, different ones.
Brahma/Prajapita is the title for Conf. Age, Vishnu(LN) to G Age, Shankar to Subtle Region (or end stage).

3) Murli clearly says- Brahma = Prajapita.

Mr. Dixit misinterpreted the Murli point and took all the titles for himself in ONE BIRTH itself!


Now- by such mis-interpretation, PBKs fall into their own pit.

4) Now- as per above PBK argument, ALL of the FIVE Brahmas (PBK invented Brahmas), two Krishnas, two Narayan, etc, should be next to Shiv.
[BKs have no problem to intercahnge seat between Brahma and Mama]

Will PBKs give all these five Brahmas (Mr. Dixit, Kamala Devi, Vedanti sister, B baba, Mama) same seat?

So- PBKs fall into their own pit by such misinterpretion.

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# Flaw No. 570) Mr. Dixit's WOMB period has EXPIRED:-

From - http://bk-pbk.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t= ... omb#p49141
VCD No.1708, C.No.2194, Perumbavoor (Kerala)-1,
Dt. 21.09.12, Mu.25.02.68
Part-2

Every soul will do the churning and reveal its births by itself. But the topic going on here was about the birthday. Should the birthday of the Creator Father be considered to be the year 76 or not?[/color] (Student: He was not revealed completely.) Yes; the mother came to know. The Father also came to know through the mother. I am your Father, [and sometimes] you are my Father means the souls of Ram and Krishna themselves are the ones who play the part of hero and heroine. Those souls came to know. But did the eight deities come to know? Who will be in the new world at first? Will there be a family unit or not? Or will only the souls of Ram and Krishna be there? Certainly, there will be some or other family unit. There will be many members in that family unit. So, it was proved that in the year 76, the Creator Father of heaven was not revealed.

But, the feotus certainly became mature. It attained the seed form stage. Then, when is it born? Is it born after four months or does it take double the time for being born? The foetus that became ready in four-five months, will it be considered as the birthday or does the birthday arrive after this? So, when will it be said [to be the birthday]?
(Students: 2017-18.) Why? It is said in the Murli itself that it takes 40 to 50 years for you children to become satopradhaan from tamopradhaan. For whom was it said: ‘you children’? The word, ‘you children’ that has appeared… are the ones in front addressed as ‘you’ or is it said to the ones who are not in front? It is said to the children who are in front. So does He teach the children of the Rudramaalaa (the rosary of Rudra) addressing them as ‘you’ or does He teach the children of the Vijaymaalaa (the rosary of victory)? Or does He teach the souls who enter the [beads] of the Rudramaalaa?

In fact, it is said in the Murli, I speak to you children; this one listens in between. Who? Brahma Baba listens in between. So, the followers of Brahma Baba also listen in between. As for the rest, whom do I teach? Whom do I speak to? Will [He] speak to the one who is intelligent or will [He] speak to the foolish children?
(Student: To the intelligent one.) To whom? [He] will speak to the one who is intelligent. So, ShivBaba did announce; whether he is the soul of Ram or the Rudra’s children who follow the soul of Ram, a single sentence was said for everyone: it takes 40-50 years to become satopradhaan from tamopradhaan for you children of the Rudramaalaa, you children who become the kings.

So, for when will it be said that Shivjayanti has taken place?
(Someone said: It will take place in 2018.) Why in 2018? Why not in 2008? Why not in 2028? (Someone said something.) 40 years will have to be added in [the year] 76. So, if 40 years are added to the year 76 then what is the outcome? The outcome is 2016-17. The time of the revelation of the first soul of the Rudramaalaa arrives. So just like it happens in the world, first the embryo is formed in the womb. Its original form is called shukra? What is called in English? Immense? (Student: Semen.) Semens. The embryo is formed. After the embryo is formed, it transforms into a non-living foetus later on. In which year (month)? In the fourth or fifth month. And then the child is born in physical in the ninth month. So, will the Point of light, whose name is Shiva be called the Creator? Is He the Creator or is the Creator of the new world of heaven someone else? Who is the Creator?

The one whom Shiva, the Point of light enters in a permanent way is the Creator.
Permanent means he was present in the beginning, he is in the middle as well as in the end. So, it was said: the birthday of the Creator of heaven, the Father, is celebrated. And is the birthday of a famous person celebrated more or is that of the insignificant people celebrated more? The more famous person someone is, his birthday is grandly celebrated in the world to that extent. So, who is the biggest person? The biggest person is the emperor of the world. All the ambitious people [like] Hitler, Napoleon who existed, they had an ambition to gain victory on the entire world but they could not rule the entire world. And no one can rule the entire world through violence either.
... (to be continued)
1) Mr Dixit had claimed his womb period will end by 2017/18, but now more than 50% of 2019 is finished.

What do PBKs interpret this now?

2) We can see how OPENLY Mr. dixit defames the HIGHEST CREATOR Incorporeal point of light SUPREME ShivBaba and takes that title on to himself.

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Re: Flaws in PBK Philosophy

Post by mbbhat » 05 Sep 2019

# 571) Mr. Dixit in his act of HK Hood, inadvertently took seat of BHASMAASUR too:-
...So just like it happens in the world, first the embryo is formed in the womb. Its original form is called shukra? What is called in English? Immense? (Student: Semen.) Semens. The embryo is formed. After the embryo is formed, it transforms into a non-living foetus later on. In which year (month)? In the fourth or fifth month. And then the child is born in physical in the ninth month. So, will the Point of light, whose name is Shiva be called the Creator? Is He the Creator or is the Creator of the new world of heaven someone else? Who is the Creator?

The one whom Shiva, the Point of light enters in a permanent way is the Creator. Permanent means he was present in the beginning, he is in the middle as well as in the end. So, it was said: the birthday of the Creator of heaven, the Father, is celebrated. And is the birthday of a famous person celebrated more or is that of the insignificant people celeb
511) Mr. Dixit says- the creator, creation process in spirituality is very similar to that of the lowkik world.
But, he says- - 'One who grows in a womb is the creator!"

Such a great blunder he committed.

In lokwk world also, One who is inside the womb is believed to be creation only.

This is another clear example which shows weak and inverted intellect of PBKs and Mr. Dixit.

512) So- Mr. Dixit in his CLEAR acts of HK Hood(= trying to take seat of God/creator), he never noticed that he is actually putting himself in the seat worse than a baby (=womb).

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572) Mr. Dixit inadvertently declares himself as inferior to even a baby as well as all the creation/s:-

513) Usually Mr. Dixit and PBKs are very happy to quote a Murli point to criticize B baba as baby intellect, but
Mr. Dixit threw himself even to a deeper level- womb! - that too- 80 long years (1936 to 2016/18)- is it not? It is already more than 82 years now.

514)Mr. Dixit says- in Conf. Age, he would be in womb for 80 years! He is happy to have the status of inferior to even a baby for 80 long years.

So- Mr. Dixit says- (at least) 80% of his Conf. Age life, he would be in womb itself. (80 years of the 100 years of Conf. Age).
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Re: Flaws in PBK Philosophy

Post by mbbhat » 18 Sep 2019

# Flaw No. 573) Mr. Dixit while hijacking all the titles, (inadvertently) fell down to the bottom only:-

515) Mr. Dixit and PBKs say- Mr. Dixit gets all the titles- Ram, Krishn, Vishnu, Narayan, Shankar, etc in this very same birth itself.

In that case, few Murli points should also have been like- "Ram is Subtle Region resident, ", is it not?
[Because there are Murli points saying- Shankar resides in Subtle Region].

So- why no Murli point says- Ram resides in Subtle Region?

516) Moreover- Sri Krishn is praised with five famous titles- Sarvagun sampanna, 16 kalaa sampoorn, sampoorn nirvikaari, maryaadaa purushottam, sampoorn ahimsak.

Why Ram is not praised so or better? (if PBKs claim human Ram is number one)
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# Flaw No. 574) PBKs inadvertently imply - Mr. Dixit cannot be Shankar:-

517) By seeing Bhakti yaadgaars of Shiv mixed with Shankar, PBKs boast it for their Guru Mr. Dixit.
PBKs usuallly question BKs by saying- "Why Shiv is mixed with Shankar only but none? [Murli points give reasoning, but PBKs are not willing to accept them*).

But, as per PBK claim in 515), Mr. Dixit gets all the names in the present birth itself.
Then onbiously, in Bhaktimarg, there should have been all the deities Ram, Krishna, Narayan, etc. - mixed with Shiv in the same way as mixed with Shankar, is it not?
Also- Murli points should also have said so. Why no Murli point says so?

So- by claiming himself as Shankar, and all the titles on himself, PBKs lost even the seat of Shankar, since their arguments oppose their own claims than supporting.

*518)- Three to four Murli points give reason for mixing of Shiv and Shankar.

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Re: Flaws in PBK Philosophy

Post by mbbhat » 18 Sep 2019

# Flaw No. 575) PBKs inadvertently imply- Mr. Dixit is neither Shivling, nor has any place in it:-

519) Murli points clearly say- Shivling represents incorporeal Shiv. But, Mr. Dixit tried to misinterpret everything and hijacked even the Shivling on himself- as one of his acts of HK Hood.

520)Now- According to PBKs, Shivling does not represent (just) point of light Shiv. According to them,

---the point in the ling = incorporeal Shiv
---The body(ling itself) represents Mr. Dixit
---The base on which Shiv is placed represents Parvati. And- Parvati is false Gita (kamala Devi) as per PBKs. (anyone can correct me, if I am wrong)

521) So- PBKs claim dot on Shivling represents Shiv riding on Shankar.

Now, if that is the case, then PBKs inadvertently imply- Shiv and Mr. Dixit together ride on Parvati (base), is it not?

522)Also- since PBKs claim moon on Shankar represents B Baba riding on Shankar/Dixit, then why no moon is shown on Shivling?

523)Moreover- PBKs imply- both Shiv and Mr. dixit are dependent on Parvati (base).
But, the base is out of Yagya since 1998 by giving divorce to Mr. Dixit.

524) So- by hook or crook, whatever Mr. Dixit or PBKs may try to distort the real knowledge, they inadvertently fall into their own pit.

525)Now- by claiming the base as FG(False Gita - kamala Devi), PBKs inadvertently imply- Shiv and Shankar are dependent on false Gita!

526) BTW- the PBK FG/base has left their Yagya since 1998. So- as per PBKs, the Shivling is now on ground or ...???

So- by sticking to corporeal things, and claiming something illogical things, PBKs lost every position.

527)Also- Where is yaadgaar of PBK Parvati(Kamala Vevi) giving divorce to Shiv?

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