Shivling or phallus shaped idols have been found in excavations all over the world.
Now, On one hand, they say- except Hindu religion, others will not recognize Shiva's practical part thorugh their Shankar.
On another hand, they say- shiv ling is found all over the world. What do PBKs claim here?
Let us see the Murli point-
SM 15-1-81(3):- Parampita kahne se hi shivling Yaad aavegaa. European log god Father kahte hain. Parantu phir sarvavyaapi kah dete hain. Paththar may Bhagavaan vah nahin samajhte honge. Yahaan toh sabko paththar (Shivling) hee Yaad aataa hai. Samajhte hain is paththar may bhagavaan hai. Paththar may Bhagavaan samajh karke poojaa karte hain. AB VAH PATHTHAR ASUL KAHAAN SE AATAA HAI JISKO LING KAHAA JAATAA HAI. OOPAR PAHAADON SE PATHTHAR BAH_KAR AATE HAIN TOH PAANI MAY GHIS2 KAR GOL HO JAATE HAIN. Tum bachche samajh gaye ho Bhagavaan koyi paththar toh hai nahin. YAH UNKI PRATIMA BANAAYI HAI. -7, &- [ShivBaba]
= now, from where the stone comes which is calles as shivling? From the top, the stones come by flowing with water, getting wear and tear and then become round. you know, god is not stone, but his form is made so.
How does it prove that such stones represent Shankar's organ?
SM 26-10-83(2):- (Kahte) HAIN BARF KA LING BAN JAATAA HAI. MANUSHYON KO THAGNEY LIYE GAPODEY TOH BAHUT LAGAAYE HAIN. Toh un jismaani yaatraa par bahut takleef hoti hai. -40 [ShivBaba]
= they say- ling of ice forms (naturally). to cheat people mots of gapoda (lies) are made.
There is another Murli point where it says- the ling in amarnath is not a natural one, but made by poojaris to cheat people.
So- even by seeing the Tv serial pointed by Arjus soul does not prove anything, because it is people made.
there was a debate going on about the makara jyoti (the light during pilgrimage time ) that appears fro few minutes(I think) on that auspicious day at Swami ayyappa temple. in olden days- there was a saying- those who do penance (vrat) properly only will be able to see that light. Others will not be able to see that light.
No- that light is visible on TV broadcasting. so- what about old belief?
I have personally witnessed one place called YANA around 50 kms from SISR Taluk of Karnataka state.
When I visited there for the first time (around 1995), it was like paalu bidda sthithi (collapsed state). no much tourists where there. there was a temple , but no worship, no poojari was there.
but, later it became famous. now, there is a pooiari doing poojas,,,. In aroung 2007 when I went there, hat poojari used to tell- the oil which is there on the statue is not what we put on . it is natural. but when I asked him- Can I just go inside and see it? He did not allow. I said- i follow all the purity things what you follow, will you allow me?
He did not permit.
The point is- since i had seen the place before and sure that it was not like that what he says now, I knew that he is saying lie. So- by pointing to one TV serial made by lowkik people or by just pointing to the moon on Shankar;s head, PBKs cannot prove that it is Brama Baba.
And regarding- the moon shown on Shiv/Shankar's head- in Bhaktimarg- it just represents that shiv protected moon god.
I think- another name for som is moon. and shiv is called as somnath.