mbbhat wrote:do you think a BK donates his money as per centre incharge's directions or with the faith that- he gets in Golden Age or everything what he has is god's own. = trusteeship. If a BK thinks his money is taken away by BK Sisters, he is not a real BK. He is a third class BK.
If an individual allows his time and money to be taken by a BK sister thinking he is giving to god, his is being fooled.
Everyone should have free and direct access to their god and philosophy of life without anyone in between.
mbbhat wrote:Murli does not agree so. Then what do you say for this? And can I ask you- who are you to come in between a BK and BKWSU?
You are wrong in this ... what you are saying is entirely false. Lekhraj Kirpalani has said time and time again in the Murli that "the children" have the right to have Murlis at home, to take copies and encourages them to studying again and again. Especially in specific cases where people are old, ill etc. (I think he even mention where people have to work or in the Services, e.g. army etc, but I will have to check that
Of course, the BKWSU leadership may well have removed and censored that bit from recent Murlis ... there is no end to how much they hide and steal from their followers ... but it certainly was true in my time. I used to be part of the Murli team, I used to have load of them. They used to be really happy if a BK showed so much interest that they want to take them home ... now all they care about is their PR and what politicians and other religion might think if they read them.
Who am I "to come in between a BK and BKWSU"? A social activist, humanitarian, educator ... I wish to empower ordinary individuals, not the self-appointed BK royalty.
I suppose in another life you would have said the same about the adivasi or untouchable ... "who am I to challenge the rights of the Brahmin caste withhold and exploit the lower castes?" In another life I was a social activist, humanitarian and educator.
If the Kalpa does repeat, you know which side I will take and it won't be with the brahmins.
Ask PBKs. they are waiting till Vedanti Sister and 2.25 lakhs of BKs move from BKWSU to AIVV.
Sure ... but that is not "being dependent on the BKWSU". The BKWSU does not own Vedanti. She is her own woman.
To be honest, I have no idea why Virendra Dev Dixit has a fixation on Vedanti. I know some older BKs sisters have gone across to the AIVV. I have no idea how senior or important they are.
There may be some greater mystery to this ... perhaps Vedanti should have a higher position in the BKWSU and this is the way in which attention is given to her?
How many defections are there to the PBKs? Is the BKWSU so afraid of them?
BKs try to give message to every corner of the world. Half knowledge is dangerous. And PBKs select only half things from Murli. And even you also are like Half = trying to help others to get Murli but do not believe in it!
The BKs have been promoting a false history and edited Murlis all over the world. Is that not a half-truth? In fact, it is far less than a half-truth, it is 95% fiction.
In my experience, it is PBKs who are more sincere at finding out the whole truth. I find that BKs just want to live in denial ... a dream state. They are the kumbhakarnas. They think the lokik world is kumbhakarna but, in fact, it is them and when the PBKs or ex-BKs try and wake them up ... they become upset and angry like drunken old men.
You are right, I do not "believe". Belief is "Bhakti" and the opposite of knowledge. That is why the Baba says, "give up Bhakti".
I don't believe in Islam either, but I support the right of Moslems to have their holy book. That is what we call an enlightened attitude and it is part of an evolved, democratic society ... not the feudal tribalism of the BKWSU.
you are bothered just what BKWSU does for PBKs. But not bothered what PBKs have been doing to BKs!
I have never heard of PBKs kidnapping and beating up BKs. I have never heard of PBKs saying, "don't study the BK course. In fact, I understand they encourage people to study basic knowledge first.
...Else, you may have different God.
No, the BKs have a different god and he is not god. He is only Lekhraj Kirpalani.
I think Baba has said- the braahmin tree will shake three times. Two times already happened- one in beggary part and the other the false prediction of 1976. Many have left.
Are many still leaving?
I have never heard of the "tree will shake three times" quote, do you have a Murli reference for it?
The problem with the BKWSU is that they keep re-writing the Murlis and hiding things so one never knows. We need the PBKs to keep the BKs honest. Baba might say, "the tree will shake three times" but then who knows which time was which? It is too vague.
How about 2036 ... when the Golden Age does not start? Will that be the third shake?
In my day the BKWSU and Murlis used to say "50 years for Destruction, 50 years for Creation". Now they have taken that bit out too because it "confuses" their students and the best they can say when questioned about it is, "Baba was testing us". What a joke. Admit it.
Right now, it is the strong and courageous who leave the BKWSU because it has become corrupted and misleading. It is only when the majority of the BKs do leave, and their money starts to run out, that the corrupt leadership will change. RIght now business is too good for them, and no one challenges them, so why should they?