anu wrote:Why should my affidavit be among foreigners? Do AIVV push into foreign list those who temporarily live abroad, despite that fact they have Indian citizenship and when they did batti they lived in India? I have never changed my citizenship and left India temporarily for business reasons.
Your reply is exactly as I was expecting. When AIVV has sincerely made efforts to find out whether any person named Tharun Mitthal from abroad has done bhatti, you say that you were living in India. The more we are trying to seek the truth about your identity (which you have provided on your own) the more you are changing and hiding facts to prevent us from reaching the truth.
OK, if you don't have any foreign citizenship, please tell us which mini-Madhubans or Gitapathshala were you connected with when you did bhatti, because if someone comes for bhatti from India he has to give reference of the gitapathshala or mini-Madhubans with which he/she is connected.
The other day when I referred to your original statement that you were from Dubai you told that you keep travelling all over the world. If you are a citizen of India, I don't think you can continuously travel all over the world throughout the year without coming back to your original address in India. Anyway, your constant changing of facts about yourself confirms our doubt that you might be lying about your identity.
Arjun, you did your best to prove your bias and you false assumptions. You caused lots of harm and accused someone that you don't know very severly. You have some story in your mind and try to prove it and when you are not able to do it, you are trying desperately some other methods. You are ready to make an Indian citizen a resident of a foreign country.
I have not caused any harm to you. Whatever I am trying to know is based on the information that you provided voluntarily
on this forum. I am just trying to confirm from AIVV the fact that you provided voluntarily on this forum.
If you are really an Indian citizen and underwent bhatti as an Indian citizen why are you so afraid about giving just the date/month/year of your bhatti. When you don't want anyone of us to object when you reveal personal details of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit with an intention to defame him, then why do you want to hide this small detail which will end all controversy.
I don't need to reveal to you any other facts apart from those I revealed. I think that even revealing those which I revelaed was too much as it becomes clear that you are using those data dishonestly. Moreover, you proved yourself to judge people by labels. I do not trust you and I do not trust AIVV. I am glad that I did not reveal anything more to you.
You revealed the information voluntarily
and now just because you cannot defend that small bit of information you are accusing me of dishonesty. But even with this small information we can still find out whether any PBK from India named Tharun Mitthal has undergone bhatti. Just because of your obstinacy, the nimit sisters will have to spend some more time and energy in checking the facts. I don't think the number of PBKs who have undergone bhatti so far is more than a lakh, so, they can physically check their records to find out whether any person named Tharun Mitthal has undergone bhatti so far in the history of AIVV or not.
Many members (including shivsena Bhai, the Admin) have raised the issue of letters of faith as to why it is sought on Affidavits (Judicial Stamp Papers). Now we can practically see how people give letters of faith (even on Judicial stamp papers) and then refuse to accept the facts. Persons like Tharun Mitthal will only prompt Baba to make the rules stricter so that people do not lie in the Court of law.
Apart from this, the procedure of checking and getting my data from the office, which you started, is totally against the rule of keeping all documents from children secret. As a member of AIVV you have no right to receive any data about the others unless they themselves give them to you. You undermine my credibility and accused me of lies. After all damage and accusation what I experienced from you in this forum, I consider you as a person working to hurt others who challenge AK on purpose
OK, I may not have a right to receive any data about others from AIVV, but I do have a right to confirm facts that someone has provided voluntarily
on a public forum.
Barack Obama has become the President of America. Yet his citizenship was a major controversy until he himself provided documentary evidence to prove his citizenship recently. So, I don't think confirming something that someone has provided voluntarily constitutes any violation of law.
I, when I did batti and surrendered all my data to Baba, did not entitle anyone from the office to use my data or to reveal them to any other students. The fact that somehow you are allowed to other students data, proves how AIVV works. I do not whish to receive any more your comments based on your assumptions, your story about me which you created. Please, use your mind to elaborate more justification and false explanations of false stories which AIVV created and spread among students.
AIVV is not revealing anything on its own. It is only trying to confirm whatever information you have provided so far voluntarily
that you are Tharun Mitthal from Dubai. Please do not speak lies that I am commenting on assumptions. I have made all sincere efforts to confirm the information that you have provided voluntarily. Just because we are trying to find out the truth you want to stop us by repeatedly warning me that you have reported the matter to Admin. If you are true why do you fear any kind of investigation? Your hiding of facts only proves that you are on the wrong side.