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Re: Forum changes

Post by warrior » 03 Jun 2011

fluffy bunny wrote: The history section would be a good project.
Wow, thank you adm!
I wonder if we can have a library in this section, where we can upload documents, photos, etc. The materials could be used for discussion in this general History section but separate in files with easy access from library only.
This is only a suggestion, if it is possible good if not let it be, at least history is back!
Thanks for reading me Huston!

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Re: Forum changes

Post by Roy » 03 Jun 2011

fluffy bunny wrote:if they cannot "win", and dominate with their values and ideas, they try to destroy the atmosphere of the forum by personal attacks to sabotage it. They try to "win" by chasing people like you away. It is just petty and nasty.
For the sake of accuracy; i feel i need to point out, that no-one on this forum has tried to chase Anu Bhai away. He has left(or has he?), because he doesn't care for the general "tone" of the forum.

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Re: Forum changes

Post by fluffy bunny » 04 Jun 2011

Yes, that is how it works. We have to remember that, like it or not, we are guests in someone else's "house" here.

A forum is like someone's house, center or study room in which the rest of us are guests. If a house or center get stuck with individuals who are angry, or mess and stubborn, soon everyone else starts leaving and it is destroyed.

We had trouble at bkinfo with guests who would not accept the limitations of the house. They wanted somewhere to meet, they wanted someone to look after them, but they would not do any work to look after the place, contribute in anyway or improve it, and they wanted to do what ever they want to do. They wanted to come to someone else's house, use it for what they wanted, and then tell that family how to run their house.

They even spoke falsely and badly about the "housewives" behind their back. Amazing! There are people like this in real life.

When they refused to accept the limits, they became angry and tried to destroy the house by acting in such way and spreading false rumours. They had to do so first ... because they did not want others to know what they did.

In life, we learn social rules quite quickly, and if we do not, society tends to shut us out. A discussion forum is a little different because there are social rules and software rules, and someone has to learn how to use them. We have often have to fit the software, because the software cannot fit us and the house is limited until the someone can change the software.

My suggestion is, if people are unhappy, to either learn how to use or extend the software so it can suit or fit everyone. I am sure Shivsena would be happy with that. He has never stopped anyone discussing BK or PBK knowledge here.

You have the essence of a good community here. It is the only BK/PBK/AK one on the internet. Because the PBK community is small, it is very useful for international PBK members, or members who live far from centers. Develop it as a resource like the BKs have their websites.

Rather than fight over one single small corner, you could have blogs, newsletters, uploads, an encyclopedia anything you want. But just like a building extension ... someone has to do it or pay for it to be done.

I see requests and criticisms but I don't see positive proposals.

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Post by Sach_Khand » 05 Jun 2011

button slammer wrote: But it's not such a serious problem as your own bloated head. Is the pissy lecture over now? Hope you can squeeze your head through the door on the way out.
What respectful comments by a respectful PBK. Is the above comment also according to Shrimat of Virendra Dev Dixit.
How is this better than writing idiot or liar? Will the PBKs answer?

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Re: Forum changes

Post by Roy » 05 Jun 2011

Sach_Khand wrote:What respectful comments by a respectful PBK. Is the above comment also according to Shrimat of Virendra Dev Dixit.How is this better than writing idiot or liar? Will the PBKs answer?
I think we all need to grow up, and stop being so sensitive about words used by other souls. If a soul feels strongly about something, these are the words they may choose; I am sure Baba Dixit loses no sleep over such things!

Once again Sanjeev Bhai, you cannot resist jumping on something like this, and using it to promote your agenda. No PBK owes you any answer; look to yourself a little more closely, that's what's important for you, imo!

None of us is perfect on here, and so trying to get mileage out of this is pretty silly from any party. We should all try and lead by example, and not act like lawyers and politicians, which i think we can all fall victim to, from time to time!

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Re: Forum changes

Post by button slammer » 06 Jun 2011

button slammer wrote: But it's not such a serious problem as your own bloated head. Is the pissy lecture over now? Hope you can squeeze your head through the door on the way out.
What respectful comments by a respectful PBK. Is the above comment also according to Shrimat of Veerendra Dev Dixit.
How is this better than writing idiot or liar? Will the PBKs answer?
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Sanjeev.
The ego of Fluffy bunny in his manifestation as elite 'condescenti' is hardly to be dented by any smart alec comments from the likes of me. Whilst saying Fluffys intro statement to be 'pissy' I am not calling him 'pissy'. 'Pissy' has many meanings and is sometimes hard to define exactly. In terms of Fluffys post it was used as a counterpoint to his somewhat pompass and condescending presentation. In other words he could have done better, which in later posts he has (in parts).
To be fair though, his observation of the forums state of pre-mentrual tension is accurate. 'Pissy' can also describe this condition as being; 'contantly irritable and annoying, bitchiness for no good reason, malicious, spiteful, and overbearing'. I certainly wouldn't describe fluffy or shivsena as 'Pissy', (someone else is a candidate for that title).
The ego of Fluffy is world famous anyway. No harm done there.

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Re: Forum changes

Post by pbkindiana » 06 Jun 2011

sachkhand wrote:
What respectful comments by a respectful PBK. Is the above comment also according to Shrimat of Veerendra Dev Dixit.
How is this better than writing idiot or liar? Will the PBKs answer?
speaking of being respectful from a person who doesn't respect and give regards to others.

Oh, come on, supporting fluffy when he/she asked whether you can be banned.

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Re: Forum changes

Post by sita » 06 Jun 2011

Fluffly bunny may be passing moral judgements from a high piedestal, but at the same time is generous enough to share his wisdom with others in a nice lecture. But he has chased many people away from the bkinfo forum and had made it a hard time for many others.

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Re: Forum changes

Post by Roy » 06 Jun 2011

If I am completely honest; fluffy bunny has gotten up my nose(must be the fluff!) somewhat, with a few of his comments! I feel he has a lot to offer, but does come over as somewhat omniscient and condescending, as Button Bhai intimated!

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Post by Sach_Khand » 06 Jun 2011

Roy wrote: I think we all need to grow up, and stop being so sensitive about words used by other souls. If a soul feels strongly about something, these are the words they may choose; I am sure Baba Dixit loses no sleep over such things!
Mr. Roy,
You think so, but Father needs to lose sleep over children's foolish behaviour if he is a good Father. And we see it even in our lokik life.

Please give your advice to your pbk brothers who need this advice very much. Just count how many times the words "idiot" and "liar" was used by indie to accuse Shivsena.
And one last advice to you, stop wagging your tail to the tune of PBKs. This is very much needed for you to really grow up.
Roy wrote: Once again Sanjeev Bhai, you cannot resist jumping on something like this, and using it to promote your agenda. No PBK owes you any answer; look to yourself a little more closely, that's what's important for you, imo!
I do not jump unnecessarily. In another post, this same button slammer wrote,
Re: Some Open talk with Veerendra Dev Dixit
by button slammer » 02 Jun 2011

Your topic is inflammatory. Get your brain tested and come back when you understand the meaning of neutral.
And PBKs have been accusing shivsena for using the word "idiot" and "liar" as an excuse to remove him as admin. What rights do such PBKs have to ask such a thing. These PBKs have been pointing fingers at others for their behaviour, but including you, all of you fail to behave properly in this forum. Now as the group for PBKs have been made different keep discussing your AK knowledge their. Please do not come to advice me. A pbk even wanted to run the forum according to Shrimat. So, atleast first learn to behave according to Shrimat. And being respectful does not just mean using nice goody goody words. Your intentions and feelings too needs to be good and deceiving behaviour is not a respectful way.
Roy wrote: None of us is perfect on here, and so trying to get mileage out of this is pretty silly from any party. We should all try and lead by example, and not act like lawyers and politicians, which i think we can all fall victim to, from time to time!

Roy
Just see you way of replying in this forum. Just a perfect politician. Speak out what you have in your heart and stop acting as a lawyer pleading for PBKs here and do not try to be a politician in your replies.
When you really agree that no one is perfect here then you should not have written such a long post of advise to me. And charity begins at home. And so, you would have first advised your pbk brothers.

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Re: Forum changes

Post by Sach_Khand » 06 Jun 2011

pbkindiana wrote: speaking of being respectful from a person who doesn't respect and give regards to others.
Do you have any regards for others? It is not that just Virendra Dev Dixit has to be given regards. Members here are needed to be given regards. I hope you will do so in future.
About Virendra Dev Dixit. You or any pbk is not the contractor of Virendra Dev Dixit neither any one of you or all of you are the sponsors of Virendra Dev Dixit. So do not meddle in my posts to Virendra Dev Dixit. Let him answer for himself as he is a member of this forum.
I have spent many of my years with Virendra Dev Dixit (not physically) and I have every right to communicate with him and question him. I do not need people like you in between us.
pbkindiana wrote: Oh, come on, supporting fluffy when he/she asked whether you can be banned.
indie.
I have not asked your advice for my relation with fluffy. Do not try to act as a politician.

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Re: Forum changes

Post by Sach_Khand » 06 Jun 2011

sita wrote:Fluffly bunny may be passing moral judgements from a high piedestal, but at the same time is generous enough to share his wisdom with others in a nice lecture. But he has chased many people away from the bkinfo forum and had made it a hard time for many others.
I was one of those chased away.

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Post by Sach_Khand » 06 Jun 2011

button slammer wrote:The ego of Fluffy bunny in his manifestation as elite 'condescenti' is hardly to be dented by any smart alec comments from the likes of me. Whilst saying Fluffys intro statement to be 'pissy' I am not calling him 'pissy'. 'Pissy' has many meanings and is sometimes hard to define exactly. In terms of Fluffys post it was used as a counterpoint to his somewhat pompass and condescending presentation. In other words he could have done better, which in later posts he has (in parts).
To be fair though, his observation of the forums state of pre-mentrual tension is accurate. 'Pissy' can also describe this condition as being; 'contantly irritable and annoying, bitchiness for no good reason, malicious, spiteful, and overbearing'. I certainly wouldn't describe fluffy or shivsena as 'Pissy', (someone else is a candidate for that title).
The ego of Fluffy is world famous anyway. No harm done there.
I cannot understand such literary English (my vocabulary is not large).
As you have explanation for using some words, similalry others too have their own explanations. PBKs just kept on hammering the words "idiot" and "liar" used by Shivsena as an excuse to suggest to disqualify him as admin.
That was unnecessary.

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Re: Forum changes

Post by Roy » 06 Jun 2011

Sach_Khand wrote:Please give your advice to your pbk brothers who need this advice very much. Just count how many times the words "idiot" and "liar" was used by indie to accuse Shivsena.
My advice was meant for everyone including the PBKs, as i think strong words are used by all parties on occasion. I have no problem with this myself, as long as it is not about simply getting personal. I believe if you think someone is lying or acting foolishly, it is okay to state that as long as you don't go over the top, and it's not done to be simply provocative, and stir up conflict. That's why i said we all need to grow up in this area imo. However, i think it would be good to keep this to the questioning AK part of the forum, as most conflict arises over PBKs beliefs, and the challenging of them, by other parties, such as yourself.
Sach_Khand wrote:And one last advice to you, stop wagging your tail to the tune of PBKs. This is very much needed for you to really grow up.
I shall bear this in mind Bhai!
Sach_Khand wrote:And PBKs have been accusing shivsena for using the word "idiot" and "liar" as an excuse to remove him as admin. What rights do such PBKs have to ask such a thing.

Personally i don't think they have, as Shivsena Bhai holds all the cards... it's his forum i believe! However, i do believe Button Bhai made some good points, and i was pleased that Shivsena Bhai acknowledged this, by creating the questioning AK section of the forum.
Sach_Khand wrote:Just see you way of replying in this forum. Just a perfect politician. Speak out what you have in your heart and stop acting as a lawyer pleading for PBKs here and do not try to be a politician in your replies.
This was from my heart and an honest opinion; i think there is some hypocrisy from all sides(including PBKs), when it comes to the question of who called who what! I personally find this a non-issue in general. When it comes to you though, you have in the past been very irritating, with your pedantic questioning, and repetitive comments and general silliness... with bold writing and constantly calling Arjun Bhai Rascal; it was all very wearisome. Now you don't appear to even want to co-operate, now that a new section has been created for questioning AK. I therefore repeat my request, that you especially, grow up Bhai!

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Re: Forum changes

Post by pbkindiana » 07 Jun 2011

sachkhand wrote:
Members here are needed to be given regards. I hope you will do so in future.
you have to practise giving regards first as members of this forum do not like your uncomfortable postings to the extent they requested you to be banned.
So do not meddle in my posts to Veerendra Dev Dixit. Let him answer for himself as he is a member of this forum.
every pbk has the right to answer any questions targeted to any PBKs or to the PBKs' Father ie. Baba Dixit.
and I have every right to communicate with him and question him. I do not need people like you in between us.
same as mentioned above.
Do not try to act as a politician.
this apply to you too.
Just count how many times the words "idiot" and "liar" was used by indie to accuse Shivsena.
is something wrong with your eyes as I have never called any member as idiot.
Sita wrote:
Fluffly bunny may be passing moral judgements from a high piedestal, but at the same time is generous enough to share his wisdom with others in a nice lecture. But he has chased many people away from the bkinfo forum and had made it a hard time for many others.

sachkhand wrote:
I was one of those chased away.
I hope Sita understands that you were chased away because of your uncomfortable postings.

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