Dear Shivsena Bhaishivsena wrote:Murli says: "Shri Shri ShivBaba gives Shrimat." Who is this Shri Shri ShivBaba ...and What is Shrimat ??
Shri Shri ShivBaba imo, relates to the combination of Shiv+Prajapita. Prajapita of course, being the no 1 or supreme effort maker soul, who completely emulates Father Shiv's nirikar stage.
Shrimat imo, is anything that the Supreme Father narrates directly, as the point below specifies...
"Sometimes the word Shrimat is used commonly. Actually the Godly versions uttered directly by Baap-Dada for the children is the Shrimat, which is received daily through Baap-Dada's direct Murlis even now and Baap-Dada's directions are also received from Madhuban from time to time. As regards the rest, directions of souls for other souls can only be termed as a good advice and not Shrimat. Hence, terming of advice received from junior or senior brothers and sisters as Shrimat is like demeaning the importance of Shrimat." [no details at present]
Yes, the Sakar Murlis narrated up to 1969, are Shrimat imo, according to the point above. It is taught in AK that the Avyakt Vani are Shrimat also; but only when clarified by ShivBaba i believe. Whether this applies to the Sakar Murlis narrated up to 1969 I am not sure, although i would say they are Shrimat in their own right, because they are mainly the words of Father Shiv Himself.shivsena wrote:Are Sakar Murlis Shrimat ?....or is avaykt Vani Shrimat ?....or whatever Baba Dixit teaches is Shrimat ??
"Godly directions (Shrimat) and demoniac directions (manmat) are together (in the Murli), aren’t they? Dada’s directions are different; God’s directions are different." [Mu 27.04.72]
"One should obey whatever elder Baba says, is not it! One should follow Him with closed eyes. But they are not faithful in their intellect. Whether there is loss or gain in His sayings, you must accept it. Even if there is a loss in it, it has been told by Baba to always think that it is ShivBaba who speaks. Don't think that Brahma is speaking, ShivBaba is responsible, this is His Chariot, He will make things right. He says - I am sitting here... always think that it is ShivBaba only who speaks." [Mu 04.04.78]
So yes, according to these Murli points, we should consider anything coming from the mouth of the appointed Chariot as Shrimat, even though it may not be Father Shiv's specific directions.
This may be to do with remembrance... as if we are always trying to second guess if Father Shiv spoke something or Prajapita spoke, our remembrance gets broken in the process, and remembrance is the no 1 subject. If we have full faith in what Father Shiv has said about this topic, we know that all will come right at some point... karmas will be settled, and the accurate result will be achieved eventually.