mbbhat wrote:Just put the Murli point which says- Father does not sit and do the work/business of giving drushti.... So- giving drushti for half an hour to an hour - I think contradicts the Murli point.
But the point is not about whether ShivBaba gives drishti or not... the point is telling us ShivBaba doesn't burn the childrens' sins through His drishti.
"Sins are burnt by remembrance of Father. Each needs to put effort for oneself. It is not that Father gives drishti and the sin of that one gets burnt. Father does not sit and do this work/business (of burning sins). Of course, He will see all (through His eyes - give drishti). By seeing(drishti) or by giving knowledge, sins do not get burnt. " [Mu 14.02.89]
This next point tells us not to give drishti to one another, only ShivBaba should do this...
"Baba says, that I sit & give Sakash (search light or drishti) to each & every soul (in front of me)... you will not do the same (as now takes place in the BK Yagya following Brahma Baba's physical death)." [Mu 15.04.94]
mbbhat wrote:So too much giving drushti is hathayog as well as too much discussion of knowledge- both are of no use.- as per the Murli point.
Where does this idea come from?... ShivBaba said that knowledge and drishti don't burn sins in themselves... He did not say they were of no use, or else why would he have spent 18 years narrating the Murli through Brahma Baba Krishna... was it all for nothing?
There has to be balance in all things, and Gyan and Yoga are the two wings of the soul... they both feed off one another and sustain one another. ShivBaba has said that body conscious souls think that they will get all they need through remembering Him in point form, in Paramdham.
“Ultimately there will be nothing else but this atomic bomb for the destruction of the world. For that neither an army is needed nor a captain. Now-a-days they have made such arrangements that they will explode the bomb while sitting there. You obtain Kingship while sitting here (face to face with Ram ShivBaba - Shiv+Prajapita-Ram), and there they destroy everyone while sitting at one place. Your (the souls who have recognised Father Shiv in His permanent Chariot, Prajapita-Shankar) knowledge and Yoga, and their instruments of death become equal (hence you are able to survive the final nuclear destruction, to give birth to the Golden Age children, like Radhe-Krishna, after 2036/7).” [Mu 20.07.09]
"Destruction will take place, everyone will perish... who will remain? Those who remain pure on Godly direction. Only they will follow the Father’s advice (through Prajapita-Shankar) and obtain the inheritance of world kingdom (directly in this very birth - nar to Narayan)." [Mu 06.09.76]
"One should not think that ‘our Yoga(link) is only with ShivBaba (the point of light).’ They (who believe this) are BKs only (not PBKs). ShivBaba can give knowledge through Brahma only (yet Dadi Gulzar has never been referred to as Brahma). If you remember only ShivBaba (the point of light), then how will you listen to Murli? Then what will be the result? If you don’t study, then which post will you achieve?” [Mu 17.09.05]
"One must follow the Shrimat at every step. Shrimat is given through Brahma. It is not that He would give advice to anyone through inspiration. Had it been so, then where was the need to produce so many children by coming in this one? Nice old (i.e. senior) children think that they will obtain (the inheritance) directly from ShivBaba (the incorporeal point). They have a lot of body consciousness." [Mu 03.09.07]
"Those who remember Father above (in the Soul World, Paramdham) follow the path of worship, because they do not know the occupation. They do not know His name, form, country, and time." [Mu 14.10.68]
mbbhat wrote:And- when PBKs believe they have advance knowledge, it means their intellect is at higher level. Then should they depend on drusthi? If still they depend on that, then what they have understood?... They interpret Murli points in many ways- sometimes claim it is the incorporeal stage what Baba says, it is subtle stage what Baba says, blah, blah, blah.. If they can understand all these subtle meaning of Murli points, still do they need physical drushti?
Souls are numberwise, and their soul conscious practise is numberwise... accepting drishti from ShivBaba is a way of improving, or simply enjoying a soul conscious experience with the Father. What could be better?