This is mainly a BK - PBK forum. So, my discussion is directed and mainly pertains to them. You also butt in uninvited and defend them many times, even when there is no point from your perspective. But,I am not a PBK, so I cannot defend their claims.
Yes, I agree that you are impartial, sometimes.There are obviously errors and misinterpretations there too. I am just trying to understand how it all fits together.
I already posted one newspaper article which stated that one major male character had left the Om Mandli ... 1932 to 1937, potentially, that's a possible 5 years of influence
Five years of influence is not enough. It should start from 1936 to 42. That is their claim.
I am much behind to understand the things between 1932 to 36. A quite old Murli point says foundation was laid in 1937.
SM 21-10-72(1):- Kitna samay lagta hai nayi duniya ki sthapanaa kar nark ka vinash honey may. Baba AAYAA HUVA HAI, 1937 MAY, FOUNDATION LAGAYA. Ab phir tum sthaapnaa kar rahe ho. -166-
= ... Baba has come in 1937, foundation was laid.
So, 1932 is not backed up by any Murli point. Still if we take 5 years, as you have said, why should DL and Om Radhe be the leaders of Yagya from 1937?
It should have been the other two mothers, is it not? Also, the report should have said- "Head of Om Mandli (if Sevakram had been head from 1932 to 1937) left and now DL has taken its leadership". Why does the report just say "a senior member of Om mandli left?" Can you not understand even this much?
These all show your biased views, and prove that you are really not impartial.
You may say I am partial. That is OK. Because I am believer of BK philosophy. I believe in Murli. But, if you believe or claim you are a neutral person just interested in truth, then your way of approach should change, is it not?
I am again little bit behind here. But, I believe -We've all heard about Piyu and the Golden Circle. It's all still a possibility ...
Piyu means (just) Father.
Golden Circle means Om Mandli.
Mandli = Circle.
Om = pure word may be taken as "Golden" in English.
It is not just by depending on erroneous versions. There are three major things here.but Veerendra Dev Dixit appears to have sunk his own boat by depending too much on the BKs' erroneous versions.
1)One trying to fit Sevakram as Virendra Dev Dixit, and the other, trying to fit in the two mothers in the beginning.
2) Failure to understand simple meanings in Murli points in the correct context of the body of the Murli.
3) Total misinterpretation of Murli points, altering limited to unlimited and unlimited to limited, as required, to suit their convenience and fit in the cooked-up, falsified theory of Ravan Rajya.
Even if we avoid the erroneous versions, or the typing errors in Murli points are kept aside, still lots of mistakes are already found and put here on the forum.
I do not agree here fully. They all had got visions of Krishna and Heaven and were drawn to him.They all were, by definition, Lekhraj Kirpalani bhagats.
I will not demand anything from others, even from my subordinates. I also believe that being too much attached to Gyan or the forum is also ego of knowledge. But, just as a matter of interest to find out more, and a diminishing addiction of ego of gyaan, I am here.The BK leaders could help us greatly by divulging what they know, and BKs like you could help by demanding the truth form their leaders and researching these things so we can all find a greater truth, and not promote a greater falsehood.
It is easy to criticize caste system. But, what do developed countries do? Do not they exploit others? How much have the western countries looted other countries? And continue to loot even today!....caste system ...Indian sanskar..
And, it is again drama. Mu Point:- Shiv ke baaraath may bhee looley langdey dikhaathay hain na
= Even in the marriage procession of Shiv, lame and handicapped people are shown, is it not?
India is a country that has been independent and self-sufficient by itself for a great period. So, there will be some exploitation of others. Because there is need of servants also. So, I believe caste system is a very natural way for the society to be complete . For example, we have man (physically strong) and woman (physically weak). Why both? Similarly upper caste and lower caste. I have written here- Post No. 80- http://www.brahmakumarisforum.net/chat/ ... ste#p11575
If you believe there is any country in this world which does not exploit others, and still is advanced, you may please mention (please mention the population of those countries as well).