sita wrote:Role of mother and Father is combined. It is said... you try to separate Bap and Dada, they again unite. It is said...you are mother, you are Father, so it refers to one personality.
I have seen PBKs questioning "how can roles of both Father and mother be played by one personality?" And, it is they who have separated Father from mother and have made Virendra Dev Dixit as just Prajapita (not Big Mother) and B baba as just Big mother (not Prajapita).
Brahma Baba also holds the title of Prajapita for the time there is no other Prajapita in the Yagya.
Avyakt Murli clearly says, even when B baba has left his corporeal body, and BapDada come in Dadi Gulzar, still the work of establishment is happening through Brahma baba only. So, during absence of the B baba Dadi Gulzar does not get title Brahma. So, saying B baba gets title of Prajapita during absence of Mr Virendra Dev Dixit is illogical as well as has absolutely no support from Murli points, in fact, goes against them.
The main question here is-
Then in the Murlis it is said that this Brahma is our mother - Jagadamba. For the time he sustains the Yagya he also plays the part of mother and Father in one.
as per PBKs ShivBaba did not enter in B baba till 1947. So, till 1947, he cannot play either role of Father or mother, is it not?
So, between 1942 to 1947, who was Father in Yagya? If we believe God was entering in the other two mothers, should we take they used to play even role of Prajapita in that period? And, there had been two mothers/sisters. Who among them played role of Prajapita and who as Big mother? or ...?
It is said we should not follow Shankar, because the qualities of the Father are different.
Where is this said in Murlis?
Now you tell how BKs follow Brahma!
Murli clearly say activities of Brahma Baba. Murlis contain not only knowledge, but also life history of B baba
. Even in Avyakt Murlis, for example- Avyakt Murlis clearly state like- B baap ke 8 kadam = 8 steps of B Baba. His life history is also written in books. This is just tip of ice berg. [People think of Jesus, Gandhiji and try to follow them or what they have said, even if they are not present in corporeal]. It is PBKs only who believe corporeal figure must be present always all the time. So, they have to reply, not from the other side.
For example Mama had left the body due to cancer. This is karmic account. Is there special effort and special achievement in suffering an illness?
You can see only body. As far as I have heard from other BKs, there was no sign of sorrow in Mama's face during those days of illness, even when the pain is high. The wonderful experience of B baba during his last minutes are said in Avyakt Murli - post No. 116- http://www.brahmakumarisforum.net/chat/ ... hel#p12438
Also, Baba has clearly said the number one souls will have highest karmbhog , but they will pass it with happiness. Post No. 193- http://www.brahmakumarisforum.net/chat/ ... naa#p15243
So, I do not feel any surprise in this.