False Gita, and its effect

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False Gita, and its effect

Post by mbbhat » 10 Jul 2019

# Post No. 01:-

Introduction:- Most beloved, Knowledgeful, Incorporeal Supreme God Father ShivBaba usually says False Gita is the cause for downfall of Bharath and fall of other religious scriptures too.

The False Gita begins with-

Putting/inserting name of corporeal Sri Krishna in place of Incorporeal Shiva. It then gradually led to the following misconception.

---the spiritual love into earthly love,
---the non violence, internal war with Maya/vices into physical war of violence.

---It then gradually increased vices, and caused gender inequality, then cause for downfall of other religious scriptures too. These aspects would be dealt one by one gradually. The readers are free to interrupt at any time.

At the end, effects of Right Gita can also be obviously put. But, till there let us discuss effect of false Gita to a great extent.

As usual, the topic starter is just yathaashakti effort-maker, so there can be errors, kindly bear it, but one will definitely find lot of good points too. Let us proceed.
1) Actually, a soul is both male and female. [We are limiting discussion to human souls only here].

---When soul is related with God, God is male/groom, and all the souls (say 700 crores), are HIS brides. Because all the souls love, pray, and try to seek God in one or other way.

---When a soul is related to its own body, the soul is male/owner and the body is its bride/property.

---So, practically a soul is above gender. A soul can have male body in this birth and female in another birth.

Explanation :- In India, for example, there is a word- karod_pati, lakh_pati. lakshmi_pati, Sita_pati, etc.

Karod means crore. One who owns crores or lakhs is called karodpati or lakhpati.

Lakshmipati means husband of Lakshmi, and Sitapati means husband of Sita.

So, pati can mean husband or owner. In short, the SUPERIOR.

2) Even though all the 7 billion souls are brides of Supreme ShivBaba, only 16108 become practically eligible to be called as brides of God, since their love only attains to the level of love between a good husband and wife. Relation of other souls is not so strong. They pray to God for limited or selfish desires only.

Actually, this love between souls and God is FULLY SPIRITUAL. And, the brides can be physically males or females (Brahmakumaris as well as brahmakumars). And God is obviously FULLY above gender (physically as well as intellectually- he does not have body of his own, and is least influenced by body-consciousness).

3) But, when the name of Sri Krishna had got inserted, level of gender-less/incorporeal God is brought down to just a physically male personality. And, the spiritual brides (who could be physically female as well as male personalities) were considered to be only female.
This depicted the spiritual love between the Supreme Soul and the top most 16108 HUMAN SOULS to a mere human deity and some physical females. The self esteem of both God and highest truth-seekers or top most human personalities were brought down. What would be the result?! Just imagine.

4) This then caused GENDER UNBALANCE too. Just imagine what would happen if one male is considered to have 16108 wives.The level of female personalities falls to the bottom, is it not?
But, the level of male (Krishna) personality would not be (practically) considered to be high. Even though some may consider Sri Krishna as hero, but all will not accept. Many would see him as lusty personality only.
So, degradation begins.

5) All the rules were forced on females:- If we see the scriptures, there majority of the rules are said for females only. Many restrictions are put on females. For example, in Hinduism, married females are forced to wear a DOT on forehead, but husband need not!

Widows have no rights, but widower has. A widow cannot marry another male, but a widower can marry.

[ The REAL SIGNIFICANCE:- Actually, male is God, and all the human souls are females. God is perfect, so no need of forcing rules on HIM.
But, all the human brides (including males) have to follow rules. Male/God can marry any no. of females (any no. of human souls), but any human being can marry only once (to God only).
Once they forget God (become spiritual widow), they lose all the rights. Marrying (attachment) anyone else than God would be a sin.

This is the real significance. But, when name of Krishna got placed on Shiva, gender inequality arose and caused downfall of society in Bharat. And, this led to male dominated society and males had more rights to commit mistakes].

BUT-When devotees enter a temple, every male should also wear the dot on his forehead! Because in temple (in front of God), he agrees that is is also a female (subordinate) ]

6) HIGHEST SYMBOL VALUE fell down to the bottom:- The significance of the DOT on forehead are TWO.
First is I am an eternal soul.
Second is- I am wife(related) to/of God only/mainly.

Now- When name of corporeal Sri Krishna got inserted, incorporeal God was totally forgotten, and the significance of the DOT/TILAK has been considered just to the level of wife of an Iron/Copper Aged Male.

So, value of the highest symbol/DOT fell into a useless ritual.

7) Today some feminists criticize this DOT/TILAK what Indian females(wives) wear as a symbol of slavery to males/husbands. And, they argue it should be abandoned. A great degradation, is it not.
So, the one of the HOLIEST, HIGHEST and RICHEST symbols had got considered to a be a symbol of SLAVERY (as well as license to have vicious/sexual relation with husband).

8) So, the symbol which is actually for purity had got interpreted as a symbol for impurity (or in fact, Kaliyugi level purity. In Kaliyug, sex with one person is considered to be purity only. It looks that there is at least SOMETHING here. But-... ).

9) But, when sex with one person is considered to be purity, the status of virgin got lost. In India, even though, there is lot of value to purity/celibacy, they lost courage to follow it. Because when sex with one person is considered to be purity, status of virgins got lost. The virgins were considered to be burden and her parents think to get her married as early as possible.
So, the SOMETHING is actually worse than nothing.
And, we know the situation in some parts in India/Bharat where poor parents become ready to sell their daughters for small money just to get rid of her, as a virgin sitting in parents house is considered to a drawback. Because, the society or the neighbourhood will start to comment or criticize such virgins staying in parents house.
So, the RESPECT to PURITY practically got lost.

More points will come later.

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Re: False Gita, and its effect

Post by mbbhat » 14 Jul 2019

# Post No. 02)

10) When the esteem of woman got lost, woman was considered to be an object of physical beauty, then to lust. Woman became a burden to man. Since he would always have a worry about her. Even today- SOME Parents or husbands - are usually worried and do not like to send their wives/daughters alone outside and majorities of MEN expect their daughters/wives to be at home before SUNSET.

So, by male dominance, freedom of even males got lost. Because they are now worried/concerned about their female assests (female relatives). I am not saying this is entirely due to false Gita. Lust/vices are the cause. But, by the false Gita, the degree of degraration increased to a great extent.

11) The widows lost their basic rights. At/In SOME places/clans* in India, the widows used to jump into the fire of her husband's dead body and sacrifice her life. This is called as SATI PRATHA ritual. Some may be jumping willingly, some might be due to fear of facing humiliation from the society, some may be forced.

But, the life/esteem of woman came down, is it not?

* - Mostly SATI PRATH had existed at very places only. But, anyhow, the practice shows the downfall of the society.

[Real Significance of SATI PRATHA:- Most beloved ShivBaba says in his sweet Murli of divine, Supreme Knowledge (almost in right words) - "Main aayaa hun tumhen le jaaney. Tum aavo yaa naheen, main tumhaarey shareer ko aag lagaakar le jaavoonga. = I have come to this world to take you all back to Paramdham. Whether you become ready to return or not, (even if you do not become ready) I will burn your bodies and take you back. "

The point here is- when the SUPREME GROOM DIES (leaves HIS body/Chariot**), all the 7 billion human brides will have to leave their bodies. The SUPREME GROOM has the authority to do so, because at THAT/THIS time, eveyone has become tamopradhan (fully degraded), and hence God comes to transform the world once again (AS PER DRAMA PLAN). Also- when these human brides die (leave their bodies) willingly or unwillingly, they will receive either liberation in life or liberation and free from all the sorrow for at least half a Kalpa. ]

** - Even though ShivBaba has left sorporeal body of B Baba in 1969, he still is in subtle body of Brahma, and also comes in Gulzar Dadi occassionally. But, when the final bell rings, HE wil leave even the subtle body of B Baba.

So, SATI PRATHA has a GREAT significance. Baba says in Murli- "You practice bodiless stage, you put to effort to die (tum marney ki practice karthay ho= Willingly you are practicing bodiless stage as well as then to die(leave body without attachment and sorrow) ).
So, the practice of BODILESS stage which is the HIGHEST one which recharges the human soul and the human soul enjoys its highest state super sensuous bliss- This is acutally following the sati-pratha WILLINGLY. [Of course, those who are not willing, will be forced (have to take punishment) as per THEIR OWN karmic account as per drama plan.]

12) Like Baba says- Actually, one should give sacrifice of mein_pan (ego), but people due to ignorance give sacrifice of goat, sheep, etc which pronoounce "mein, mein". [In Hindi - MEIN means I (ego)].
Without realizing the essence people give sacrifice of lakhs, crores of animals in the NAME of GOD!

Similarly, due to ignorance, physically females had to follow sathipratha in worldly way. [Now, SATI PRATHA/PRACTICE does not exist. It is banned by law. ]

13)The real slogan is - "Parameshwar hee sachchaa pati hai = God is the real/first/supreme GROOM (all the human grooms of many births are secondary/next)" got INVERTED and in Bharat/Hindusim, the slogan became famous as "PATI HEE PARAMESHWAR hai = human groom himself is the SUPREME"

So, total inversion!

So, due to androclone society, there had been great degradation. [I am not saying feminism is good/right. Feminism also is not good. There should be BALANCE. Shifting one side will always lead to degradation].

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Re: False Gita, and its effect

Post by mbbhat » 21 Aug 2019

# Post No. 03)


When the incorporeal ShivBaba is replaced by a bodily personality SriKrishna, the spiritual/internal war with vices got depicted as physical war with (evil) human beings. So, the nonviolent war got depicted as violent/external one.

So, like purest/spiritual relation got depicted as most impure one (as alreasy explained above), similarly, a bad action (physical war of fighting and killing one another) got depcited as a part of dharma/righteousness.

Such a great blunder happened.

So, the scripture which is considered to be the highest book again fell down to the most bottom level.
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15) When Indians fall, others too fall.

Let us see how false Gita first degraded Indians and then led to fall/spoil of other religions too.

16) Murli Points:-

---Geetha khandan honey se baaki sab dharm shaastyr khandan hotey hain. = When Gita gets corrupted, other scriptures too get corrupted.

---Bharatvaasi khud girtey hain, aur doosron ko giraaney nimitt bnathay hain = Indians (first) fall and become cause/instrument for downfall of others.

---Gita hai mayi-baap, baaki sab hain baal bachche= Gita is Father and mother, all the rest (scriptures) are like children or kids.

17) So, when Indians have depicited/shown physical war as a part of dharma in THEIR SCRIPTURE, other religions too might have had included physical war as a part of their RELIGIOUS duty.

For example, in Islam, there is JIHAAD, and in Christianity, there is CRUSADES. - PHYSICAL WAR on non believers .

I am not saying Hinduism false/sancsrit Gita fully responsible for JIHAAD or CRUSADE, but to some extent it might had motivated followers of other religions to include those topics in their scriptures. Because when they think- In Gita it is show as part of dharma, so we too should motivate our followers for physical sacrifice to protect and promote our religion.
I am not saying this as 100% true, but definitely there could be some percentage of influence of this on followers of other religions which motivated to include the physical war in their scripture.

18)But, truth is clear:- In lowkik/sanscrit/false Gita, it is said- fight, fight with vices. It is never said- fight with human beings and kill others. That is- actually lowkik Gita nevers directs physical war. It clearly directs internal war (war with vices).
But, the lowkik Gurus who had authority over Hindu religion, interpreted it as war on people(KOURAVAS- who are the evil people as per the epic Mahabharat)

Some Hindu Gurus clearly say- the war in Gita is actually internal war. But, majority interpret it as both physical and internal war. But, in lokwik/false/sanscrit Gita, no where it is said fight with people, kill others. This point is to be noted.
Mostly- as per my knowledge no Indian/Hindu King used Gita as a tool to motivate anyone for war.

Even in Islam some scholars believe JIHAAD means internal fight (fight with one's own internal weakness/vices, etc), but they are very very few. Majority believe/interpret it as external/physical war.

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Re: False Gita, and its effect

Post by mbbhat » 13 Sep 2019

# Post No. 04:- Hindus most non-violent, but Hindu scriptures are most violent!

19) No doubt, Hindus are the most tolerant religion/people*. But, at the same time, it is in Hindu scriptures, where highest amount of violence/wars is shown than any other religuious scriptures.

In Mahabharat epic, 17 AKSHOHINI** armies are shows as fought and died in the war of just 18 days between PANDAVAS and KOURAVAS.
And- in the same epic, there had been other MANY smaller wars too, like Kans, Jarasandh, Shishupaal, etc.
Also- it is shown that the kul(generation) of YAADAVAAS fought among themselves and died.

[Take Ramayan, Mahabharat, or other(totally there are 18 epics), there are countless wars, and death of billions of people.]

20) So- total number of death would be HUGE.

And- there are 18 epics in Hinduism, and COUNTLESS wars are shown there.

21) So- how -a religion where highest violence is shown, are the MOST TOLERANT people? Wonderful, is it not?

22)I cannot say- lowkik Gita is the main cause for violence in other Hindu scriptures. [= I do not know whether story of violence said in Gita has passed to the other Hindu scriptues.]

But, I believe to SOME (or great) EXTENT, Gita is ALSO responsible for the spread of violence to other Hindu scriptures too.

Had Gita been interpreted properly- (that is the INTERNAL WAR), other Hindu scriptures which describe violence would have lost importance, or such violence stories would have been much lesser in them- IS IT NOT?


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* - 24)Let us take MAJOR religions in the world- Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, and Christianity.

I believe - It is Hindus who are MOST non-violent. [If I am wrong, anyone may kindly mention/refute.]

Islam and Christianity have committed countless wars and atrocities on other religions, as well as fought among (within) themselves too. They have been cause for the first two world wars and todays terrorism.

If we take Buddhism, take example of Japan and China which are major Buddhist religions. Japan had been war mongering country. Neither Japan, nor China are interested to follow principles of Lord Buddha.

China supresses other countries as well as other religions in its country to a great extent. At present, it follows Communism more than Buddhism.

But, if we take India/Bharat, it is least. So- the most tolerating country, the largest democratic and secular country in the world.

** - An akshauhini ARMY IS - is described in the Mahabharata as a battle formation consisting of 21,870 chariots (Sanskrit ratha); 21,870 elephants; 65,610 horses and 109,350 infantry as per the Mahabharata (Adi Parva 2.15-23). The ratio is 1 Chariot : 1 elephant : 3 cavalry : 5 infantry soldiers.

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Re: False Gita, and its effect

Post by mbbhat » 13 Sep 2019

# Post No. 05:- DILUTION and CONFUSION (From one scripture to many scriptures):-

25)Almost every religion (except Hinduism/Sanaatan) in the world has only/mainly ONE SCRIPTURE.
It is better to have ONE scripture for a religion (or at least have ONE SCRIPTURE as the MAIN ONE). This will make the followers

---EASY to FOLLOW the religion,
---MAINTAIN UNITY in the religion.
---LESSER RITUALs, so lesser expenditure,

But, Hinduism has MANY (4 Vedas, 18 epics, many UPANISHADs) scriptures. And, no one knows which among these is the highest/main scripture.
Some believe VEDAS are the most important, some believe Gita as most, some believe Ramayan, some may believe UPANISHADs, etc

26)Since in Gita, name of deity Sri Krishna is placed, it lost its importance, hence even though it is the main scripture, it could not get that seat.

27)Due to this blunder/confusion, many other scriptures came up in Hinduism. (And- some Hindu sects have their own smaller scriptures and believe them as MAIN for them.)

[The other reasons for cause of creation of many scriptures in Hindusim may be - flexibility, higher level of Independence, creativity, etc. ]

28)But, this has led to Hindus to believe in MANY GODs, GODDESSES, and also have made more number of castes/varnas/sects than other religions.

29)Had incorporeal SUPREME GOD Father, KNOWLEDGEFUL, MOST BELOVED, PURIFIER, ALMIGHTY, Shiva had been put in Gita, the Gita alone would have been considered as the MAIN scripture, and other scriptures would have been considered as SECONDARY only. This would have made Hindus more able and self esteemed people. Because they would have been more closer to God.

30)Because- all Hindus will not believe Sri Krishna as God. Some started to believe Sri Rama as God, some Durga as God, ... later sun, moon, stars, all as God, ... later even snakes, trees, cows, rivers, etc too considered to be as God or worship worthy or PURIFIER, etc.

31)Due to not having FIRM concept of one (the main or real) God, many scriptures arose in Hinduism, and many rituals, and hence more wandering in the name of pilgrimages.

32) This then led to the Iron Aged human Gurus taking the title "Shree Shree Shree 108 Jagadguru" on themselves. So- FINALLY God's title itself is hijacked by the human Gurus*.

33) And- many concepts - such as DWAITA, ADWAITA, VISHISHTAADWAITA, etc came up and they started debating with each other.

# Post No. 07) Humans got/hijacked title of God:-

34)FINALLY many Gurus in Hindusim, started saying such a low level statement - "ALL THE WAYS LEAD TO GOD!". Then effort or knowledge makes no sense at all, everything lost its value.

* 35) - Murli Point(almost in right words)- "manushy ko Bhagavaan maan_ney se Bharat kaa durgati huyi hai = Considering humans as God is the main cause (one of the main causes) for degradation of Bharat/India."

The first step in this degradation begain by considering the number one human/deity Sri Krishna as God. Later Sri Ram, etc, etc- and finally Irong Aged people also considered themselves to be God.

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