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Re: Questions for PBKs

Post by arjun » 13 Oct 2013

It is only after the revelation of the fake and the real Devis that the Confluence-Aged Ram's coronation takes place in the Confluence Age.

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Post by shivsena » 14 Oct 2013

arjun wrote:It is only after the revelation of the fake and the real Devis that the Confluence-Aged Ram's coronation takes place in the Confluence Age.
Imo, Dusshera is celebrated the next day after Navratri as a rememberence of Ravan-Virendra Dev Dixit being burnt(destroyed) immediately after the revelation of Maa-adi-shakti jagdamba as yatharth roop of ShivBaba("Shiva is shakti and shakti is Shiva") in future.....Effigy of Ravan-Virendra Dev Dixit is burnt as -Virendra Dev Dixit has burnt the hearts of many BKs and PBKs by his false adv-Gyan.....Only after Destruction of untruth-Virendra Dev Dixit will the gates of Heaven be opened....Mu:"Brahma(badimaa--adishakti jagdamba) dwara hi swarg ke gate khulne hain"

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Post by shivsena » 20 Oct 2013

Sadgati kya hai aur Sadgati wala Gyan kaun saa hai ??

70 saal mei naa toh bk-Gyan se kissi ki sadgati hui aur naa toh 30 saal ke adv-Gyan se kissi ki sadgati hui….dono org. mei BKs va PBKs akaale sharir chod rahe hai….toh sadgati wala Gyan (amar bhav ka vardan denewala Gyan) kaun saa hai ?????....har bk-pbk ko yeh prashna apne aap se poonchna chahiye.

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Post by shivsena » 02 Nov 2013

Diwali Ram-rajya ke shuruat ki yaadgaar hai..lekin Diwali par na Ram ki, na shiv ki, na Shankar ki, na Narayan ki pooja hoti hai.....Sirf Maa-Lakshmi ki pooja hoti hai...kyon???

Diwali festival is rememberence of the beginning of Ram-rajya....but on diwali day, neither Ram, nor Shiv, nor Shankar, nor Narayan is worshipped...only Maa-Lakshmi is worshipped.....What is the connection of Diwali with Maa-Lakshmi. ????

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Post by sita » 02 Nov 2013

Diwali is the symbol of achieving our aim to become like Lakshmi and Narayan, that's why it is like the beginning of the kingdom of Ram. In the kingdom of Ram all are like Lakshmi and Narayan. Before the start of the kingdom of Ram, during the time of our effort, we continue to check our face in the mirror of our heart and the mirror of the knowledge to realize whether we have become worthy to marry Lakshmi. For to become worthy to marry Lakshmi we have to clear out the house inside our self from the rubbish of the vices, to ignite the lamp of our mind with the light of the consciousness of the soul, burning the oil of remembrance. Lakshmi comes on her own, like symbol of virtuosity, like a reward when we have made this effort, and grants us the fortune of our complete stage. A man becomes complete, when he marries.

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Post by Roy » 02 Nov 2013

shivsena wrote:Diwali festival is rememberence of the beginning of Ram-rajya....but on diwali day, neither Ram, nor Shiv, nor Shankar, nor Narayan is worshipped...only Maa-Lakshmi is worshipped.....What is the connection of Diwali with Maa-Lakshmi. ????
Baba has told us that the Gates of Heaven are opened by the mothers... so it is connected to the purity of the mothers i would imagine... with Lakshmi being the no 1 in terms of purity.

"The last slogan, "Bharat Mata(Lakshmi) shakti avatar" is sung... Now the avaykt part is of shakti, when everyone stabilises in the shakti form, then all (of you) put together will show wonders... If everyone stablises in the shakti form, then your lost bhakts(devotees), will come in front of you like a magnet... It will not take much time." [Av 18.05.69]

"When the Queen Bee(Lakshmi) of honeybees flies (to Prajapita-Ram aka Narayan at the end), then all the bees run behind it. It is wonderful, is not it?" [Mu 05.08.05]

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Post by shivachild » 02 Nov 2013

shivsena wrote:Diwali festival is rememberence of the beginning of Ram-rajya....but on diwali day, neither Ram, nor Shiv, nor Shankar, nor Narayan is worshipped...only Maa-Lakshmi is worshipped.....What is the connection of Diwali with Maa-Lakshmi. ????
Murli dated 1.10.2012 says,"The Father explains: When it is Diwali, Mahalakshmi (four-armed Lakshmi) comes. You invoke both of them. Lakshmi is in the front and Narayan is behind her. Lakshmi has two arms and Mahalakshmi has four arms. It is now that you know these things."

Imo.....It is combined form of Lakshmi-Narayan (MahaLakshmi) that is worshiped on the festival of Diwali.

*********************DIWALI WISHES TO ALL**********************************

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Post by Roy » 02 Nov 2013

shivachild wrote:Murli dated 1.10.2012 says,"The Father explains: When it is Diwali, Mahalakshmi (four-armed Lakshmi) comes. You invoke both of them. Lakshmi is in the front and Narayan is behind her. Lakshmi has two arms and Mahalakshmi has four arms. It is now that you know these things."
Great point, thanks for sharing.

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Post by shivsena » 03 Nov 2013

sita wrote: A man becomes complete, when he marries.
That is exactly what i wish to know...when man-woman are incomplete without each other, then why is Lakshmi worshipped alone without Narayan.? (when Diwali is supposed to herald Ram-rajya. (pavitra-pravritti marg).

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Post by sita » 03 Nov 2013

As shivachild has pointed out, it is possible that worship of Narayan is included and understood in the worship of Lakshmi. Lakshmi becomes Lakshmi when he marries Narayan, before that she is Radha. And in the couple of Lakshmi and Narayan, Lakshmi is in front, so she is shown.

Another possible explanation is that it is only the souls who become from man to Narayan who have to perform worship and invoke Lakshmi, as it is said that the impure ones bow down their head to the pure ones, and the souls who become from woman to Lakshmi don't have to perform such ritual as they possess these qualities within themselves. For them Lakshmi could symbolize the wealth of knowledge.

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Post by shivsena » 04 Nov 2013

shivachild wrote: Murli dated 1.10.2012 says,"The Father explains: When it is Diwali, Mahalakshmi (four-armed Lakshmi) comes. You invoke both of them. Lakshmi is in the front and Narayan is behind her. Lakshmi has two arms and Mahalakshmi has four arms. It is now that you know these things."
Very good point...shivachild Bhai.

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Post by shivsena » 05 Nov 2013

Mu: "Brahma-Vishnu-Shankar hai Sukhsma-vatan-wasi"..jab sukhsma-vatan-wasi-brahma mei shiv pravesh nahi kar sakta..toh sukhsma-vatan-wasi-Shankar mei shiv kaise pravesh kar sakta hai??

["Brahma-Vishnu-Shankar are subtle-region Deities"...when Shiv cannot enter SUBTLE-Brahma(DLR), then how can shiv enter SUBTLE-Shankar(-Virendra Dev Dixit) ???]

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Post by Roy » 05 Nov 2013

shivsena wrote:"Brahma-Vishnu-Shankar are subtle-region Deities"...when Shiv cannot enter SUBTLE-Brahma(DLR), then how can shiv enter SUBTLE-Shankar(-Virendra Dev Dixit) ???
Out of the three murtis, only Brahma Baba Krishna takes on a subtle body... it is the subtle body of Brahma Baba that Father Shiv doesn't enter... He can enter the corporeal body of the soul(Shankar aka Virendra Dev Dixit) who remains in a subtle stage of thinking and churning.

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Post by shivachild » 10 Nov 2013

    shivsena wrote:Brahma-Vishnu-Shankar are subtle-region Deities"...
    Murli dated 31.01.2013 says,"The residents of the Subtle Region are called angels because they don't have flesh and bones. Even Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar don't have flesh and bones"

    Dear Shivsena,
    1.As per this Murli point Shankar does not have flesh and bones. This Murli point contradicts the teachings of AIVV that 'Baba Virendra Dev Dixit is playing the role of Shankar'.

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    Post by sita » 10 Nov 2013

    The subtle body is only a projection, a mirror image of a past, present or future form of a corporeal body. There cannot be a subtle body, without its corporeal form-model counterpart. If this point is taken to mean that Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar don't have corporeal bodies, this will mean that the corporeal form of Brahma from the past (the role played through Brahma Baba) is also not possible. But Brahma is always only a matter of a corporeal personality, since Brahma is the one whom the Supreme Father enters and the Supreme Father enters only a corporeal personality, according to the Murlis.

    If we accept the role of the Sakar Brahma, we will find this point to refer to the subtle forms of the three personalities, forms or shapes, correspoding to certain bodily personalities. We can also reach such a subtle or incorporeal stage in our body. If we reach the soul stage, as a soul, we don't have flesh and bones. The case with Brahma baba of leaving the body is also possible, but in that case we will have to enter some other corporeal personality as we have to reach our complete stage here and now only and it is only possible to make effort and to change only through some corporeal body. So the image corresponding to Brahma in the Trimurti has to be the image in whom Brahma Baba enters. That's why it is said in the Murli that the image of the Trimurti is not correct and we should prepare the correct one.

    In the same way, it is said that our future, perfect form of deities is waitig for us, the angels, is the Subtle Region to grant us the garland of our complete stage. These images are not of flesh and bones, but they refer to us, who now have flesh and bones, and point towards our future, perfect form, i.e. stage. Since it is said that the worship is of the final, end and complete stage, hense the image of the Trimurti represents the perfect stage of the tree personalities, where they have already acieved their perfect stages of and have shed the body consiousnessness of the flesh and bones.

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