SM & AV points for churning – Revised in 2017

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Post by Golden Heart » 06 Sep 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 06.09.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
रूहानी बाप मीठे-मीठे रूहानी बच्चों को ज्ञान और भक्ति का राज़ समझा रहे हैं।
“The Spiritual Father explains the SECRET of Knowledge & Devotion to You sweetest Spiritual Children.”

The SUBTLE SECRET of Knowledge & Devotion, in Confluence Age, is that the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, or TRUE Gita, spoken by Shiva, THROUGH Brahma Baba, enables the Righteous Children to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, in Confluence Age;
while the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, or FALSE Gita – (which represents the ‘shooting’ of the ‘Path of Devotion’ of Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age) - initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, enables the BLIND Unrighteous children to claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya - in Confluence Age ITSELF!


यह भी अब मालूम हुआ है कि भक्ति कब से शुरू हुई है! रावण राज्य कब से शुरू हुआ है! कब पूरा होता है!
फिर रामराज्य कब से शुरू होता है!
“NOW, You also know when Devotion began, and when Ravan’s kingdom began and when it ends;
and THEN, when RAMA’s Kingdom begins.”

The ‘shooting’ of the ‘Path of Devotion’ of Ravan Rajya, begins more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age, through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, and ends by the end of Confluence Age; after which REAL RAMA’s, or God’s, Kingdom PRACTICALLY begins, in the very beginning of Golden Age!


अभी संगमयुग का चक्र वा ड्रामा चल रहा है। यह हम सब बच्चों की बुद्धि में बैठा। किसकी बुद्धि में बैठा? हम प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली ब्राह्मणों की बुद्धि में बैठा।
NOW, the Cycle, or Drama, of the Confluence Age is taking place. All of this is in the intellects of You Children. In whose intellects are all of these things? They are in the intellects of the Brahmins, who are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of PrajaPita Brahma.”

The Cycle, or Drama, of the Confluence Age, which is the BLUE PRINT of the ENTIRE Cycle, or EWD Play of 5000 years duration, can ONLY be contained within the Divine intellects of the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev.


अब फिर ब्राह्मणवंशी बनकर, फिर हम देवता बनते हैं। अभी तुम ब्राह्मणवंशी वा ईश्वरीय वंशी हो। तुम सब जानते हो कि हम सब ईश्वर की सन्तान हैं, इसलिए ब्रदर्स कहते हैं। वास्तव में तो ब्रदर्स होते हैं मूलवतन में, फिर पार्ट बजाने लिए नीचे आना पड़ता है। यह तो बच्चे जानते हैं - हम ही शूद्र से ब्राह्मण बन, पढ़कर वह संस्कार ले जाते हैं। सो हम देवी-देवता बनते हैं। कल हम शूद्र थे - आज हम ब्राह्मण हैं, फिर कल हम देवता बनेंगे। यह राज़ समझाना भी होता है, बच्चों को।
“NOW, we have again become the dynasty of Brahmins, and we will THEN become Deities. NOW, You are the Brahmin dynasty or God's dynasty. All of You know that You are all the Children of God, and this is why You are called Brothers. In fact, Brothers are in the Incorporeal World, and THEN You have to come down to play your parts. You Children know that You change from ‘shudras’ into Brahmins, and after studying, You carry those sanskars with You, and You, YOURSELVES, THEN become Deities. Yesterday we were ‘shudras’, and today we are Brahmins, and THEN tomorrow we will become Deities. You Children have to explain this Secret.”

ONLY the CONCERNED Righteous/Worthy Children, who are TRUE Brahmins (BKs), can explain the REAL SUBTLE SECRET of how they change from ‘shudras’ into the Brahmin dynasty, or God's dynasty, in Confluence Age, through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, and how they, THEMSELVES, THEN change from ELEVATED Brahmins of Confluence Age, to ELEVATED Deities of Golden Age, through the Study of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, and through ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God.


सतोप्रधान बनने के लिए मुख्य है - ज्ञान और योग। ज्ञान है सृष्टि चक्र का, और योग से हम पावन बनते हैं। कितना सहज है। किसको भी समझा सकते हैं। जैसे बाबा भी समझाते हैं ना। सिर्फ बाबा बाहर नहीं जाते हैं, क्योंकि बाप इनके साथ है ना।
“The main aspects needed to become ‘satopradhan’ are Knowledge and Yoga. The Knowledge is of the World Cycle, and we become pure through Yoga. It is so easy! You can explain to anyone, just as (Brahma) Baba explains. It is just that (Brahma) Baba does not go outside, because Father (Shiva) is with him.”

The MAIN aspects required to become ‘satopradhan’ from ‘tamopradhan’ are the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge of the World Cycle & the ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God.


वहाँ यह मन्दिर आदि नहीं होंगे। वहाँ भक्ति मार्ग का चिन्ह भी नहीं होगा। भक्ति मार्ग में फिर ज्ञान का रिंचक मात्र चिन्ह नहीं है। यह भी तुम नम्बरवार जानते हो।
“These temples, etc., will not exist THERE. There will not even be any trace of the Path of Devotion there. Then, on the ‘Path of Devotion’, there is NOT EVEN the SLIGHTEST TRACE of Knowledge. You too know this, number-wise.

In the ENTIRE ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, or FALSE Gita – (initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan) – which represents the ‘shooting’ of the ‘Path of Devotion’ of Ravan Rajya, there is NOT EVEN the SLIGHTEST TRACE of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, or TRUE Gita.
ALTHOUGH the VERY SAME Versions of the SMs & AVs are used in, BOTH, the TRUE Gita, AS WELL AS, the FALSE Gita, the INTERPRETATIONS of EACH, are 180 degrees OUT of PHASE!
This is a VERY SUBTLE SECRET of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita) & Impure ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge (FALSE Gita - which sustains the BLIND devotees on the ‘Path of Devotion’ of the outer World of Ravan Rajya) - which even the Righteous Children know, ONLY number-wise!


तराजू में यह ज्ञान का तरफ भारी होता जायेगा। एक तरफ है ज्ञान, दूसरे तरफ है भक्ति। इस समय भक्ति का पुर (पलड़ा) बहुत भारी है। एकदम नीचे पट पड़ जाता है। बहुत वज़न भारी होकर एकदम तले में चले जायेंगे। उसमें जैसे 10 शेर, और उसमें ज्ञान का एक पाव पड़ा है। फिर ज्ञान का एक तरफ भारी हो जायेगा, सतयुग में एक ही पुर होता है, फिर कलियुग में भी एक ही पुर होता है। संगम पर दो पुर हो जाते हैं। ज्ञान के पुर में कितने थोड़े हैं। कितना हल्का है, फिर वहाँ से ट्रांसफर हो इस तरफ भरते जायेंगे, तब भक्ति खत्म हो जायेगी। फिर एक ज्ञान का पुर रह जायेगा। दो पुर होंगे ही नहीं। बाप आकर तराजू में दिखाते हैं। कम जास्ती भी होता रहता है। कब उस तरफ, कब इस तरफ, भरतू हो जाते। ज्ञान में आकर फिर भक्ति के पुर में भरतू हो जाते। जो पक्के हैं, वह तो जानते हैं स्थापना जरूर होनी है।
“On the SCALE, the side of THIS Knowledge will continue to become heavier. On one side is Knowledge, and on the other side is Devotion. At this time, the pan of Devotion is very heavy, and comes down completely. It will become very heavy and go right down below. It will seem as if there are 10 units (‘sher’) on one side, and just a quarter Knowledge of that on the other. Then the side of Knowledge will become heavy. In the Golden Age there is only one pan (of the SCALE), and then in the Iron Age there is also only one pan. At the Confluence Age there are two pans. There are so few on the pan of Knowledge; it is so light. Then they will be transferred from that side and continue to fill this side, and THEN Devotion will end. Then only one pan of Knowledge will remain. There will no longer be two pans. The Father comes and shows You this on the SCALE. They continue to be less and more. Sometimes, there are more on that side, and sometimes there are more on this side. They come into Knowledge, and then fill (become members of) the Devotion side. Those who are FIRM know that establishment has to DEFINITELY take place.”

In Confluence Age, the BLIND Unrighteous children are FIRST ATTRACTED by the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita), and THEN they are POWERFULLY ATTRACTED by the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge (FALSE Gita), having been THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATED by THEIR bodily guru – (who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God)!

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, remain FIRM in the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita), THROUGHOUT the Confluence Age.
Hence, in the SUBTLE SCALE of Confluence Age, at FIRST, the UNADULTERATED Knowledge pan is lighter, and the ADULTERATED knowledge pan is heavier. When everyone will be transferred to the side of the UNADULTERATED Knowledge pan, at the VERY END of Confluence Age, the ‘shooting’ of the ‘Path of Devotion’ of Ravan Rajya will END, and there will be ONLY ONE pan of the SUBTLE SCALE of Confluence Age!
A VERY DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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Post by Golden Heart » 07 Sep 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 07.09.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
यह भी जानते हो, वह हैं जिस्मानी लड़ाई पर, तुम ब्राह्मण हो रूहानी लड़ाई पर। नई दुनिया का मालिक बनने के लिए, रावण पर विजय पाने के लिए तुम लड़ाई पर हो।
“You also know that they are involved in corporeal warfare, whereas You Brahmins are involved in Spiritual warfare. You are at ‘war’ in order to achieve victory over Ravan, and become the Masters of the New World.”

The Righteous Children are involved in NON-VIOLENT, INCOGNITO Spiritual ‘warfare’, with their Divine intellects, in order to achieve victory over Ravan, and become the Masters of the New World of RamRajya, by SUBLIMATING the SUBTLE Vices within themselves, by EXPOSING their intellects to the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, spoken by Shiva, THROUGH Brahma Baba, and through ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children are involved in VIOLENT ‘warfare’, with their Devilish intellects, under the ACTIVE influence of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, to become masters of the ‘unlimited’ World of Ravan Rajya, by SUCCUMBING to the SUBTLE Vices within themselves, by EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, and through INACCURATE & ADULTERATED remembrance of THEIR ‘ShivBaba’, within the impure perishable corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru, ALSO MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Shankar’, etc.! Their AGGRESSIVE USAGE of the MISINTERPRETED, MISREPRESENTED & MISAPPROPRIATED points of Knowledge from the original UNADULTERATED SMs & AVs, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, represents the ‘shooting’ in INCOGNITO form, in Confluence Age, of the corporeal warfare prevalent in the outer World of Ravan Rajya in EVIDENT form!


तो यहाँ भी बाप आये हैं, बच्चों को स्वराज्य देने। श्रृंगार करते हैं। चलते-चलते बच्चे फिर माया की धूल में पड़कर श्रृंगार सारा खलास कर देते हैं। बच्चे खुद भी समझते हैं कि बाबा हमको श्रृंगारते बहुत अच्छा हैं। फिर माया ऐसी प्रबल है, जो हम लथेड़ कर श्रृंगार खराब कर देते हैं। सबसे बड़ी धूल है विकार की।
“So, the Father has come here in order to grant You Self-Sovereignty. He decorates You. However, while moving along, the Children fall into the DUST of Maya and finish all their decoration. You Children understand for yourselves that Baba is decorating You very well, but Maya is so powerful that she makes You roll in the DUST and spoil your decoration. The worst DUST is that of the Vices.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, comes to decorate the Righteous Children with Divine Virtues, and grant them their Self-Sovereignty, to enable them to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Him, THROUGH Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age ITSELF.

But the the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, is so POWERFUL that she makes the BLIND Unrighteous children ROLL in the INVISIBLE DUST of the SUBTLE Vices, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, (which sustains the GROSS Vices in the outer World of Ravan Rajya), through which they SPOIL their decoration of Divine Virtues, to THEN be able to claim ONLY their inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya from the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan - in Confluence Age ITSELF!


संग तारे कुसंग बोरे। ... वह सब हठयोग सिखाते हैं, उनसे कोई फायदा नहीं है। उसको हठयोग कहा जाता है।
“ Good company takes you across and bad company drowns you. ...
All of them teach ‘hatha Yoga’, but there is no benefit in that. That is called ‘hatha Yoga’. ”

Good Company of Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, THROUGH Brahma Baba, through EXPOSURE of their intellects to the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, and THROUGH RajYog, takes the Righteous Children ACROSS from the Ocean of Poison to the Ocean of Nectar.

Whereas, BAD company of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, through EXPOSURE of their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, and THROUGH hatha Yoga, causes the BLIND Unrighteous children to FOUNDER in the Ocean of Poison of the SUBTLE Vices, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge! This is SUBTLE hatha Yoga – which sustains the hatha Yoga of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, which has no LASTING, Unlimited benefit – by which the POWERFUL Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, to GRADUALLY & SURREPTITIOUSLY TRANSFER their FOCUS or ATTENTION from Incorporeal Father Shiva to THEIR corporeal bodily guru, whom they DELUSIVELY consider to be THEIR ‘Prajapita’ or ‘Jagadpita’!


एक बाप को याद करना है। वह है रचयिता, हम हैं रचना। वर्सा बाप से मिलता है। भाई-भाई से वर्सा मिल न सके। गाते भी हैं, हम सब भाई-भाई हैं। तो जरूर बाप भी होगा ना। ब्रदर्स बाप बिगर होते हैं क्या? अभी देखो तुम कैसे भाई-बहन बनते हो। वर्सा दादे से मिलता है। मुख वंशावली ठहरे। गाया भी जाता है प्रजापिता। इतनी सारी प्रजा है, तो जरूर एडाप्टेड होगी। कुख वंशावली हो न सके। तुम ब्राह्मण फिर देवता बनते हो।
“You have to Remember ONE Father. He is the Creator and we are the creation. You receive the inheritance from the Father. Brothers cannot receive an inheritance from brothers. People sing: We are all Brothers. So there must surely also be the Father. Could there be brothers without a father? Look, how You have NOW become Brothers and Sisters. You receive an inheritance from the Grand-Father. You are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny. PrajaPita has been remembered. There are so many people and so they must surely be adopted; they could not be ‘womb-born’ progeny. You Brahmins THEN become Deities.

The Righteous Children, who are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL PrajaPita Brahma (who is Brahma Baba), have to Remember ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, who is the REAL Incorporeal Creator, and who is ALSO their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father, from whom they receive their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya - ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, who is the REAL PrajaPita Brahma – to THEN change from ELEVATED Brahmins of Confluence Age, to the ELEVATED Deities of Golden Age.

The Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he is THEIR ‘Prajapita’, and the ‘creator’ of EVEN Brahma Baba, and that the Righteous Children are NOT the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, but the ‘womb-born’ progeny of Brahma Baba, since they keep his photo in front, while Remembering ShivBaba!


अरे, तुम्हारा बाप मर जाये तो चित्र तो देखेंगे ना, ऐसे थोड़ेही कहेंगे कि वह बाप जिंदा हो जाए, बाप का दीदार हो, तब मानें।
“If your father were to die, you would still see a picture of him. You would not say that ONLY if that father were to be alive, or if you had a vision of him, would you believe him.”

If the corporeal father of the corporeal children were to leave his corporeal body, while they were STILL in their childhood, they would STILL keep and see his photo when they grow up, to remind them of his personality and his virtues; and they would NOT say that they would believe that he is their father, ONLY if he is within his corporeal body, in front of them, ALL the TIME that they themselves are ALSO in their corporeal body.

However, IN SPITE of the FACT, that REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God has CLEARLY DECLARED that Brahma Baba is, BOTH, the ‘Alokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, the ‘Alokik’ Father of the Righteous Children - who STILL consider him to be their ‘Alokik’ Father, EVEN AFTER he leaves his corporeal body in 1969 – simply because, he is, IN FACT, their ‘Alokik’ Father, THROUGH whom they receive their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, from their ‘Parlokik’ Father, or ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father – YET, the BLIND Unrighteous children choose to BLATANTLY OPPOSE & INSULT God, by maintaining that Brahma Baba is NOT their ‘Alokik’ Father, but ONLY their ‘Alokik’ Mother, since they are TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, into DELUSIVELY believing that the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, is THEIR OWN ‘Alokik’ Father, or ‘Prajapita’ – thus being instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


तुम्हारी लड़ाई बिल्कुल ही अलग है। तुम्हारी लड़ाई है ही पुराने दुश्मन रावण से। तुम माया पर जीत पाकर जगतजीत बनते हो। बाप तुमको विश्व का मालिक बना रहे हैं। बाहुबल से कोई विश्व का मालिक बन न सके। ... कल्प पहले मुआफिक हम राजयोग सीख रहे हैं - गुप्त। कितनी गुप्त पढ़ाई है, इसको कोई नहीं जानते।
“Your war is COMPLETELY different. Your war is with the old enemy Ravan. You achieve victory over Maya and then become conquerors of the World. The Father is making You into the Masters of the World. No one can become a Master of the World through ‘Power or Arms’. ...
We are studying RajYog, in an INCOGNITO way, as we did in the previous Cycle. This Study is so INCOGNITO that no one knows about it.”

The Righteous Children are involved in NON-VIOLENT, INCOGNITO Spiritual ‘warfare’, with their Divine intellects, in order to achieve victory over their OLD enemy Ravan or Maya, and become the Masters of the New World of RamRajya, by SUBLIMATING the SUBTLE Vices within themselves, by EXPOSING their intellects to the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, spoken by Shiva THROUGH Brahma Baba, and through ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, or TRUE RajYog. The Righteous Children become the Masters of the New World of RamRajya through the ‘Power of Remembrance’, or ‘Power of Yoga’.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children are involved in VIOLENT ‘warfare’, with their Devilish intellects, under the ACTIVE influence of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, to become masters of the ‘unlimited’ World of Ravan Rajya, by SUCCUMBING to the SUBTLE Vices within themselves, by EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, and through INACCURATE & ADULTERATED remembrance of THEIR ‘ShivBaba’, within the impure perishable corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru, ALSO MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Shankar’, etc.! Their AGGRESSIVE USAGE of the MISINTERPRETED, MISREPRESENTED & MISAPPROPRIATED points of Knowledge from the original UNADULTERATED SMs & AVs, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, represents the ‘shooting’ in INCOGNITO form, in Confluence Age, of the corporeal warfare prevalent in the outer World of Ravan Rajya in EVIDENT form – which represents the ‘Power of Arms’! The BLIND Unrighteous children CANNOT become the Masters of the New World of RamRajya through SUCH SUBTLE ‘Power of Arms’, but become the masters of Ravan Rajya through same!


माया भी सर्वशक्तिमान् है तो बाबा भी सर्वशक्तिमान् है।
“Maya is also an almighty authority, and Baba too is the Almighty Authority.”

The Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is the Almighty Authority, who enables the Righteous Children to become the Masters of the New World of RamRajya through the ‘Power of Remebrance’, THROUGH Brahma Baba.

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, is ALSO an almighty authority, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, through whom the BLIND Unrighteous children are enabled to become the masters of Ravan Rajya through the SUBTLE ‘Power of Arms’, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, THROUGH the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 08.09.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
रूहानी बच्चे पढ़ रहे हैं। स्टूडेन्ट जब पढ़ते हैं, तो यह जानते हैं कि हम क्या पढ़ते हैं। पढ़ाने वाले को भी जानते हैं, और एम-आब्जेक्ट उद्देश्य और प्राप्ति क्या है, वह भी अच्छी तरह से जानते हैं। अभी तुम सब जानते हो कि हम मनुष्य से देवता बन रहे हैं। इस समय हम ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली ब्राह्मण बने हैं। तुम क्या पढ़ते हो? राजयोग। ... भगवान फिर से आकर पढ़ाते हैं।
“You Spiritual Children are Studying. When students study, they know what they are studying. They also know who is teaching them, and they also know what their purpose, aim and objective is, and what the attainment is, very well. All of You NOW know that You are changing from humans into Deities. At THIS TIME You have become Brahmins, the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma. What are You Studying? RajYog. ... God comes and TEACHES You, once again.”

The Righteous/Worthy Spiritual Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), who are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of PrajaPita Brahma (who is Brahma Baba), are Spiritual Students, who Study RajYog from the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Teacher, Shiva - who is a Spiritual TEACHER, THROUGH Brahma Baba – in order to change from ordinary human beings of Iron Age, into ELEVATED Brahmins of Confluence Age, and THEN into ELEVATED Deities of Golden Age – and hence they VERY WELL KNOW what they are Studying; what their purpose, aim & objective is; and what their attainment is going to be – which is to claim their inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Incorporeal God Father, Shiva, THROUGH Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age ITSELF.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children, into DELUSIVELY believing that the Righteous Children are NOT the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, but are the ‘womb-born’ progeny of Brahma Baba; and that they DO NOT Study RajYog from Shiva THROUGH Brahma Baba, and therefore Shiva is NOT a TEACHER of RajYog THROUGH Brahma Baba;
and that they DO NOT change from Brahmins into ELEVATED Deities THROUGH Brahma Baba, since Brahma Baba has left his corporeal body in 1969, and since a corporeal body is necessary for this task of transformation, on this corporeal sphere (according to them) – thus CLEARLY OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God, and ALSO His ACTUAL ‘mukrar-rath’ Brahma Baba, AS WELL AS the Righteous Children – and thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


बाप को क्रियेटर तो सब मानेंगे। रचना को रचता द्वारा वर्सा मिलता है। ... हम तुमको फिर से मनुष्य से देवता बना रहा हूँ, राजयोग सिखा रहा हूँ - जिससे तुम सो लक्ष्मी-नारायण बनेंगे। ... यहाँ तुम फिर से राजाई के लिए पढ़ रहे हो। ... तुमको तो भगवान खुद पढ़ा रहे हैं। ... हम फिर से वही राजयोग सीख रहे हैं।
“Everyone accepts that the Father is the Creator. The creation receives the inheritance from the Creator. ... I am once again changing You from humans into Deities. I am TEACHING You RajYog, through which You will become Lakshmi-Narayan. ... You are Studying HERE, once again, to claim your Sovereignty. ...
God Himself is TEACHING You. ... We are Studying the SAME RajYog, once again.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, who is the Incorporeal Creator, TEACHES RajYog to the Righteous Children - to transform them from ordinary human beings into ELEVATED Deities, like Lakshmi-Narayan - and to enable them to claim their inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Him, THROUGH Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age ITSELF, as He does Cycle after Cycle – and hence Shiva is ALSO a Spiritual TEACHER THROUGH Brahma Baba.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children, into DELUSIVELY believing that he is the corporeal ‘creator’ of EVEN Brahma Baba, and that Shiva is NOT a Spiritual TEACHER THROUGH Brahma Baba, and that the Righteous Children DO NOT change from ordinary human beings into ELEVATED Deities THROUGH Brahma Baba - thus CLEARLY OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God, and ALSO His ACTUAL ‘mukrar-rath’ Brahma Baba, AS WELL AS the Righteous Children – and thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


अभी पतित दुनिया है, इसलिए परमपिता परमात्मा को आना होता है। गाते भी हैं, ‘पतित-पावन आओ’, वह तो निराकार ठहरा ना। ... तो समझाना पड़े कि साकार को भगवान नहीं कहेंगे। ... भगवान है ही निराकार। ... यह (ब्रह्मा) कहते हैं - मैं थोड़ेही भगवान हूँ।
“ The World is now impure, which is why the Supreme Father Supreme Soul has to come. They even sing: ‘O Purifier, come’! He is Incorporeal. ... Therefore, it has to be explained that a corporeal being CANNOT be called God (‘Bhagwan’). ... God is Incorporeal. ...
This one (Brahma Baba) says: I am NOT God (‘Bhagwan’). ”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is Incorporeal, and NO corporeal being can be called God (‘Bhagwan’)! Brahma Baba DOES NOT say that he is God (‘Bhagwan’).

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children, into DELUSIVELY believing that he is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), and that he is ‘Bhagwan’ - by CRAFTILY MISREPRESENTING & MISAPPROPRIATING the Pure UNADULTERATED Versions of God – thus being instrumental to carry out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


यहाँ तो सब सुनते ही एक से हैं। बाप कहते हैं तुम मेरे से ही सुनो। भगवानुवाच - जरूर किस तन में आयेगा ना। गाया हुआ है, ब्रह्मा द्वारा ब्राह्मण रचे। हम ब्रह्माकुमार कुमारियाँ हैं - 5 हजार वर्ष पहले भी संगम पर ब्रह्मा मुख कमल से ब्राह्मण रचे गये, जो ब्राह्मण फिर देवता बने थे। अभी हम शूद्र से ब्राह्मण बन, फिर देवता बनेंगे।
Everyone HERE listens from ONLY One. The Father says: Only listen to Me. God speaks, and so He would surely have to enter someone's body. It is also remembered that Brahmins were created through Brahma. You are Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (BKs). Five thousand years ago also, Brahmins were created through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma at the Confluence, and those Brahmins later became Deities. We have now changed from ‘shudras’ into Brahmins, and we will THEN become Deities.”

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (BKs), who are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, Re-Created by Shiva THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, listen to ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Teacher Supreme Soul, Shiva, and change from ordinary human beings, or ‘shudras’ of Iron Age, into ELEVATED Brahmins in Confluence Age, in order to THEN become ELEVATED Deities in Golden Age, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children, into DELUSIVELY believing that the Righteous Children DO NOT listen to ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, but to MANY OTHERS – ONLY to INDOCTRINATE them into DELUSIVELY believing that he is the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, so that they THEN get EASILY FOOLED into believing that they should listen ONLY to him. The BLIND Unrighteous children DO NOT REAL-EYEs how they have been TREACHEROUSLY & SURREPTITIOUSLY TRICKED by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, into DELUSIVELY believing that the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, is the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, and hence they READILY believe WHATEVER is spoken through his BOGUS mouth, WITHOUT REAL-EYEsing that they are ACTUALLY NOT COMPREHENDING the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge of God in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE, and hence they are ACTUALLY NOT LISTENING to ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, but to the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan – who makes THOROUGH IDIOTS out of them!


बाप बैठ समझाते हैं, इन शास्त्रों आदि में कोई सार नहीं है, यह पढ़ते-पढ़ते तुम्हारी कला उतरती गई है। अभी तो कोई कला नहीं रही है। बाप कहते हैं भक्ति से कोई भी मेरे से मिल नहीं सकता। ... बाप कहते हैं, मैं आता ही हूँ संगम पर। इस बूट (ब्रह्मा) में मैं फिट होता हूँ।
The Father sits and explains: There is NO essence in these Scriptures, etc. While You have been studying them, your degrees have continued to DECREASE. There are now no celestial degrees left. The Father says: NO ONE is able to meet Me through Devotion. ... The Father says: I only come at the Confluence Age. I fit in THIS ‘BOOT’ (Brahma Baba).”

EVEN though REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God CLEARLY DECLARES that there is NO REAL ESSENCE in the FALSE Scriptures of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, CONTINUES to provide ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED ‘unlimited clarifications’ - of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge of God, in the SMs & AVs, which represents the TRUE Gita - by making the VERY FALSE Scriptures of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, the VERY BASIS for such MISREPRESENTED & MISAPPROPRIATED ‘unlimited clarifications’, presented in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, which represents the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita, in Confluence Age, since such ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED ‘unlimited clarifications’, are in ABSOLUTE CONSONANCE with the DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan’ Bhakti of the ‘Path of Devotion’ of the outer World of Ravan Rajya. By continuing to study the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, the celestial degrees of the BLIND Unrighteous children CONTINUE to DECREASE, WITHOUT them REAL-EYEsing as to what EXACTLY is taking place! Since the BLIND Unrighteous children are AGGRESSIVELY INVOLVED in carrying out the ‘shooting’ of the Path of Devotion, they are NOT ABLE to EXPERIENCE a Spiritual Meeting with REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, when He comes to Meet the Righteous Children THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age, using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED!

Whereas, Shiva Meets the CONCERNED Righteous Children, ONLY THROUGH the long ‘BOOT’ (corporeal body) of Brahma Baba, more specifically in the earlier part of Confluence Age – and THEN CONTINUES to Meet them through his SUBTLE body, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age;
the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, INDOCTRINATES the BLIND Unrighteous children, ONLY THROUGH the long ‘BHUT’ (‘ghost who talks’) of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


स्वदर्शन चक्र देवताओं को नहीं है। यह तुमको है। परन्तु तुम तो सम्पूर्ण बने नहीं हो। तो निशानी देवताओं को दे दी है। स्वदर्शन चक्र फिराते, कमल पुष्प समान बनते, शंखध्वनि करते, तुम देवता बन जायेंगे। शिवबाबा ब्रह्मा द्वारा विष्णुपुरी स्थापना कर रहे हैं। यह बातें कोई की बुद्धि में नहीं हैं। भगवान पढ़ाते हैं, हम विश्व के मालिक बनते हैं, तो कितना न हर्षित होना चाहिए। स्टूडेन्ट लाइफ इज दी बेस्ट। पढ़ाई की लाइफ बेपरवाह अच्छी रहती है।
Deities do not have the discus of Self-Realization; You have this. However, because You have not become complete, this symbol is shown with the Deities. By spinning the discus of Self-Realization, by becoming like a lotus flower, by blowing the conch shell, You will become Deities. ShivBaba is establishing the ‘Land of Vishnu’ through Brahma. These aspects are NOT in anyone else's intellect. God is TEACHING You, and You are becoming the Masters of the World. Therefore, how happy You should be! Student life is the best; a life of study is a good, carefree life.”

Although the discus of Self-Realization ACTUALLY belongs to the ELEVATED Brahmins of Confluence Age, the symbol of same is shown with the ELEVATED Deities of Golden Age, since the Spiritual stage of Brahmins continues to fluctuate during Confluence Age, while that of the Deities is STABLE in Golden Age – ALTHOUGH those VERY SAME ELEVATED Brahmins of Confluence Age, THEMSELVES, THEN become the ELEVATED Deities of Golden Age.

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Post by Golden Heart » 09 Sep 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 09.09.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
एक ही टीचर के पास कोई भी पढ़ते नहीं हैं। 12 मास पढ़ेंगे, फिर टीचर बदली करेंगे। यहाँ, यह मुख्य टीचर बदली नहीं होता। बाकी बच्चियां तो बहुत हैं - राजयोग सिखाने के लिए। एक से तो काम चल न सके। ... पावन बनाने वाला एक ही टीचर ठहरा।
“No one studies with ONLY ONE teacher. They would study for 12 months, and then their teacher would change. Here, this MAIN TEACHER DOES NOT CHANGE, but there are MANY Daughters to Teach You RajYog. Not everything can be accomplished by just ONE (TEACHER). ...
It is ONLY the ONE TEACHER who PURIFIES everyone.”

For the Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), the MAIN TEACHER - Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva - DOES NOT CHANGE, EVEN AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body in 1969; and His MAIN, ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ - REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – ALSO DOES NOT CHANGE, EVEN AFTER he leaves his corporeal body in 1969.
However, NOT EVERYTHING can be accomplished by just ONE TEACHER, Shiva, and therefore, there are MANY OFFICIALLY APPOINTED Daughters who Teach the VERY SAME Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & RajYog, of the VERY SAME Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Teacher Supreme Soul, Shiva – who is, HOWEVER, the ONLY ONE TEACHER who PURIFIES everyone, who remain in His ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance!
The OFFICIALLY APPOINTED Daughters, Teach under the Spiritual Authority of Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Teacher Supreme Soul, Shiva – and ALL those who listen to these officially appointed instrumental Teachers, listen to ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Teacher Supreme Soul, Shiva, ALONE – and to NONE OTHER!
View point 4 of Revised SM dated 08 Sep 17, in post of same date, in link below -
viewtopic.php?f=40&p=53310#p53310
यहाँ तो सब सुनते ही एक से हैं।Everyone HERE listens from ONLY One.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children, into DELUSIVELY believing that the Righteous Children DO NOT listen to ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Teacher Supreme Soul, Shiva, but to MANY OTHERS; and that the Teacher, AS WELL AS, the Chariot, CHANGE, AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body in 1969 - thus THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATING them into DELUSIVELY believing that he his the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, when he is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc.!


बाप बच्चों की महिमा करते हैं। परन्तु वह खुशी, वह योग कम दिखाई देता है, इसलिए बेहद का बाप जो इन द्वारा पढ़ाते हैं, यह सबसे नजदीक है। इतना एकदम नजदीक बाप, दादा कब देखा है?
“The Father praises You Children, but that Happiness and that Yoga are not adequately EVIDENT. This is why, THIS one, through whom the Unlimited Father is TEACHING, is the closest of ALL. Have You ever seen a Father and Grand-Father being so close together?”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Supreme Teacher Supreme Soul, Shiva – who is ALSO the ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father (Dada‘d’ pronounced, as in ‘day’) – TEACHES the Righteous Children, ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev (Dada‘d’ pronounced, as in ‘they’) – who is the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father of the Righteous Children.
BOTH, Brahma Baba (‘Alokik’ Father) & Shiv Dada (‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father) are CLOSEST TO EACH OTHER - among ALL OTHER embodied souls on this corporeal sphere – THROUGHOUT the Confluence Age - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.

The Hindi word, ‘een’, used in the SMs, has the SAME CONNOTATION as the Hindi word, ‘ees’ - as can be READILY understood from this Version, where Shiva DECLARES that He TEACHES THROUGH THIS (‘een’) one (Brahma Baba), and that THIS (‘yeha’) one (Brahma Baba) is CLOSEST to Him, among ALL others!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children, into DELUSIVELY believing that when the Hindi word, ‘een’, is used, it refers to him, and when the Hindi word, ‘ees’ is used, it refers to Brahma Baba - thus making THOROUGH IDIOTS out of them!


बच्चे जानते हैं - हम आये हैं, भगवान से पढ़ने। तुम कितने तकदीरवान हो। यह भी सबको निश्चय नहीं है, निश्चय हो तो भगवान से क्यों नहीं पढ़े। रात दिन बत्तियां जगाकर, मर-झुरकर, भोजन न खाकर, भी एकदम पढ़ने को लग पड़े। ‘वाह, यह तो 21 जन्मों की कमाई है’। बहुत अच्छी रीति पढ़ने को लग जाये। पढ़ाई भी क्या है, मुख्य है ही बाप को याद करना।
“You Children know that You have come to Study from God. You are so fortunate! Not everyone has this faith. If they had faith, why would they not Study from God? They would keep the lights on all night, sacrifice themselves, not even eat food, but continue to Study very intensely. ‘Wow, this is an income for 21 births’! They would begin to Study very well. What is this Study after all? The MAIN thing is to Remember the Father.

The ESSENCE of the ENTIRE Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge is CONTAINED in ONLY ONE SINGLE WORD – ‘Manmanabhav’ – Remember the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ALONE!
The FINAL AIM & OBJECTIVE of the Unlimited Study & ALL Spiritual efforts, is to FINALLY be ABLE to EASILY maintain ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONEas a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering the Self also as a soul – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy!
Therefore, Spiritual aspirants should NOT WASTE their PRECIOUS TIME in indulging in WASTEFUL & USELESS discussions & debates, but FOCUS their ATTENTION on achieving the REAL PRACTICAL FRUIT of RajYog, as QUICKLY as possible – which is to have the ACTUAL EXPERIENCE of INNER, LASTING LIGHTNESS & HAPPINESS – which is SELF-VERIFIABLE, and DOES NOT DEPEND on the opinion or experience of ANY OTHER embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere!


तमोप्रधान से सतोप्रधान बनने में टाइम तो लगता है ना। अपनी दिल से पूछना है कि हम कितना समय याद करते हैं? सच्ची दिल से बहुत प्यार से युक्तियुक्त याद कोई 5 मिनट भी मुश्किल करते हैं। बहुत लव से याद किया जाता है।
“It takes time to become ‘satopradhan’ from ‘tamopradhan’. Ask your heart for how long You stay in Remembrance. Scarcely anyone Remembers the Father ACCURATELY with an honest heart, and with a lot of Love, for even five minutes. You have to Remember Him with a lot of Love.”

The MAIN REASON why embodied souls take so long to change from ‘tamopradhan’ to ‘satopradhan’ is that they WASTE their PRECIOUS TIME in indulging in WASTEFUL & USELESS discussions & debates, EVEN in the Confluence Age, INSTEAD of making CONCERTED EFFORTS to maintain ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONEas a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering the Self also as a soul – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – with a LOT of TRUE, INNER, Divine LOVE!


एक है सिमर-सिमर सुख पाओ, दूसरा है सिमर-सिमर दु:ख पाओ, क्योंकि भक्ति रात है ना।
“One is to experience happiness by continuing to Remember (God); and the other is to experience sorrow by continuing to remember (Godly Form of Ravan), because Devotion is the Night.”

The Righteous Children PRACTICALLY EXPERIENCE TRUE INNER LIGHTNESS & HAPPINESS, by CONTINUING to maintain ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONEas a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering the Self also as a soul – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – thus carrying out the ‘shooting’ of the ‘Day of the Cycle’, or the ‘Path of Knowledge’!

The BLIND Unrighteous children DO NOT PRACTICALLY EXPERIENCE TRUE INNER LIGHTNESS & HAPPINESS, but experience the SUBTLE sorrow of being DIVORCED from God, since they CONTINUE to maintain INACCURATE & ADULTERATED remembrance of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who ALSO MASQUERADES as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – thus carrying out the ‘shooting’ of the ‘Night of the Cycle’, or the ‘Path of Devotion’!


तुम सबको कहते हो कि शिवबाबा को याद करो, तो पाप कट जायेंगे। तुम एक बाप का सिमरण करते हो, मनुष्य तो अनेकों का सिमरण करते-करते पाप आत्मा बन जाते हैं। सीढ़ी उतरते जाते हैं। अब तुम एक बाप को याद करो, अर्थ सहित।
“You tell everyone: Remember ShivBaba and your sins will be cut away. You Remember ONE Father, whereas human beings become sinful souls by continuing to remember many. They continue to come down the Ladder. NOW, You should Remember ONE Father MEANINGFULLY.

The Righteous Children are ABLE to absolve themselves from sins, by Remembering ONLY ONE ‘Parlokik’ God Father, Shiva, MEANINGFULLY - by maintaining ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONEas a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering the Self also as a soul – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – with a LOT of TRUE, INNER, Divine LOVE!

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children are NOT ABLE to absolve themselves from sins, since they DIVORCE themselves from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, by CONTINUING to maintain INACCURATE & ADULTERATED remembrance of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who ALSO MASQUERADES as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – while DELUSIVELY believing that they are maintaining ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE – owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED & INVERTED STONE intellects! This, IN EFFECT, represents the ‘shooting’, in Confluence Age, of the BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, who become sinful souls, by remembering their bodily guru, while DELUSIVELY believing or considering him to be God, or the Chariot of God!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A AV 03.01.1983, Revised 10.09.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, AFTER 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children - 1) who were PHYSICALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar; and 2) who were SPIRITUALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through their own Divine Intellects, in their own 'Akari' stage.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
आज बापदादा विशेष डबल विदेशी बच्चों से मिलने के लिए आये हैं।
“Today, BapDada have especially come to Meet the Double-Foreign Children.”

Shiv Bap (‘Parlokik’ Father) & Brahma Dada (‘Alokik’ Elder Brother‘d’ pronounced, as in ‘they’), OR, Brahma Bap (‘Alokik’ Father) & Shiv Dada (‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father‘d’ pronounced, as in ‘day’), as REAL BapDada, have ESPECIALLY come to Meet the REAL ‘Double-Foreign’ Children, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, in Madhuban, at Mount Abu.
The term, ‘Double-Foreign’, refers to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, from OUTSIDE India - since ALL embodied souls are ‘foreigners’ on this planet Earth, having come from the Soul World, in the first instance; while ONLY the Children from OUTSIDE India, in addition, have come to Madhuban from OUTSIDE India, in the second instance – and hence they are referred to as REAL ‘Double-Foreign’ Children, by REAL BapDada.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that they are ‘Double-Foreign’ children – since they come from the outside World to the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, (which is considered to be the BASIC Knowledge by the Defamer Of God), thus making them ‘foreigners’, in the first instance; and then come to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, (which is considered to be the ADVANCED knowledge by the Defamer Of God), thus making them ‘Double-Foreigners’, in the second instance.
The Defamer Of God ALSO TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that, in the term, ‘BapDada’, ‘Bap’ refers to himself, while ‘Dada’ refers to Brahma Baba, who resides within his impure perishable corporeal body, after he leaves his own corporeal body in 1969, etc., etc., etc. – thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HirnayaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!
However, it is VERY EVIDENT that this Version DOES NOT APPLY to THESE FALSE ‘Double-Foreigners’, AT ALL, since REAL BapDada are CLEARLY speaking to the REAL ‘Double-Foreign’ Children!!!


सभी बच्चे दूर-दूर से अपने स्वीट होम में पहुँच गये। जहाँ सर्व प्राप्ति का अनुभव करने का स्वत: ही वरदान प्राप्त होता है।
“All You Children, from far away, have reached your sweet Home, where You automatically receive the Blessing of experiencing ALL attainments.”

The REAL ‘Double-Foreign’ Children, from OUTSIDE India, have reached their sweet Home of REAL Madhuban, at Mount Abu, where they AUTOMATICALLY receive the Blessing of experiencing ALL attainments, from REAL BapDada.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children have CLEARLY DIVORCED themselves from celebrating a Spiritual Meeting with REAL BapDada, in REAL Madhuban, at Mount Abu, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, and therefore have NO CHANCE of AUTOMATICALLY receiving the Blessing of experiencing ALL attainments, from REAL BapDada, AT ALL!!!


ऐसे वरदान भूमि पर वरदाता बाप से मिलने आये हैं।
“You have come to Meet the Father, the Bestower of Blessings in this Land of Blessings.”

The REAL ‘Double-Foreign’ Children have come to Meet the Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, who is the Bestower of Blessings, and who comes together with the ‘Alokik’ Father, Brahma Baba, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, in REAL Madhuban, at Mount Abu, which is the REAL Land of REAL Blessings.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children have CLEARLY DIVORCED themselves from celebrating SUCH a Spiritual Meeting with REAL BapDada, in REAL Madhuban, at Mount Abu, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, since they have been THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATED into DELUSIVELY believing that Shiva, ALONG WITH, Brahma Baba, operate through the impure perishable corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru - who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


हम आत्मायें विश्व की ऐसी श्रेष्ठ विशेष आत्मायें बनेंगी, डायरेक्ट बाप से सम्बन्ध में आने वाली बनेंगी - ऐसा कब सोचा था!
“Did You souls ever think that You would become such special, elevated souls of the World, that You would become those who come in a DIRECT relationship with the Father?”

The REAL ‘Double-Foreign’ Children are such special, elevated souls of the World, who come in a DIRECT relationship with the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev.

Whereas, the FALSE ‘Double-Foreign’ children are such specially UNFORTUNATE souls of the World, who come in a DIRECT relationship with the the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan – (MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – while SIMULTANEOUSLY, DELUSIVELY believing that they have come in a DIRECT relationship with the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, through the impure perishable corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru – who turns them into THOROUGH Spiritual IDIOTS, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge!


प्रत्यक्षता की किरण अब्बा के घर से चारों ओर फैले। जैसे कहते भी हो कि आबू विश्व के लिए लाइट हाउस है।
“The rays of revelation should spread ALL AROUND from the Father’s Home. You also say that Abu is a Light-House for the World.”

The rays of revelation should spread ALL AROUND the WHOLE World, from REAL Madhuban, at Mount Abu, which is the REAL Father’s REAL Home, which is the REAL Spiritual Light-House & Might-House for ALL the embodied souls of the ENTIRE World.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that his ‘brikuthi’, or center of his forehead, represents the ‘Living Madhuban’, which is the ‘real home’ of the ‘real Father Shiva’, while he remains in a ‘high nirakari stage’, like Mount Abu, which is like a ‘Light-House & Might-House’ for ALL the embodied souls of the ENTIRE World (according to him) – thus making THOROUGH IDIOTS out of the BLIND Unrighteous children, who READILY & BLINDLY believe EVERYTHING which he tells them, due to which they REMAIN TREACHEROUSLY TRAPPED in the VICIOUS CLAWS of Ravan or Maya, and in the VICIOUS GRIP of body-consciousness!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A AV 06.01.1983, Revised 10.09.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, AFTER 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children - 1) who were PHYSICALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar; and 2) who were SPIRITUALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through their own Divine Intellects, in their own 'Akari' stage.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बापदादा को मुख से आशीर्वाद देने की आवश्यकता नहीं पड़ती क्योंकि शब्द, वाणी सेकेण्ड नम्बर है, लेकिन स्नेह का संकल्प शक्तिशाली भी है, और नम्बरवन प्राप्ति का अनुभव कराने वाला है। बापदादा इसी सूक्ष्म स्नेह के संकल्प से मात-पिता, दोनों रूप से, हर बच्चे की पालना कर रहे हैं।
“BapDada DO NOT need to give Blessings through the mouth, because words and speech are SECONDARY, whereas the thought of Love is also powerful, and also enables You to experience the number one attainment. With this SUBTLE thought of Love, BapDada are sustaining EACH Child, in the form of, BOTH, Mother and Father.”

Shiv Bap, in His role as the ‘Parlokik’ Father, AND, Brahma Dada, in his role as the ‘Alokik’ Mother, DO NOT need to give Blessings through the mouth of a corporeal body, because words and speech are SECONDARY, whereas the thought of Love is also powerful, and also enables the Righteous Children - who have ALSO since DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness - to experience the NUMBER ONE attainment, through their OWN ANGELIC stage.
BOTH, Shiv Bap, in His role as the ‘Parlokik’ Father, AND, Brahma Dada, in his role as the ‘Alokik’ Mother, sustain EACH Righteous Child, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), in the form of, BOTH, ‘Alokik’ Mother and ‘Parlokik’ Father - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through the IMPURE CORPOREAL body of Brahma Baba, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through the SUBTLE body of Brahma Baba, till the end of Confluence Age.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, having been THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATED by the Defamer Of God, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, DIVORCE themselves from SUCH Spiritual Sustenance from Alokik’ Mother, Brahma, and ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, THROUGHOUT the Confluence Age, owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects!


तो बापदादा भी वतन में बैठे सभी बच्चों की विशेष खोरश (खातिरी) करते रहते हैं।
“Therefore, BapDada, whilst sitting in the Subtle Region, also provide SPECIAL hospitality to the Children.”

Shiv Bap, in His role as the ‘Parlokik’ Father, AND, Brahma Dada, in his role as the ‘Alokik’ Mother, provide SPECIAL hospitality to the Righteous Children - who have ALSO since DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness - whilst sitting in the Subtle Region.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that REAL Shiv Bap & Brahma Dada reside within the ‘brikuthi’, or the center of the forehead, of his impure perishable corporeal body, after Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body in 1969 – thus making THOROUGH IDIOTS out of them!


तो बापदादा भी वतन में हर बच्चे को फरिश्ते आकारी रूप में आह्वान कर, सम्मुख बुलाते हैं, और अधिकारी रूप में अपने संकल्प द्वारा सूक्ष्म सर्व शक्तियों की विशेष बल भरने की खातिरी करते हैं।
“So BapDada also, invoke EACH Child, in their subtle angelic form, and call them FACE to FACE, in the Subtle Region; and since they are in their form of having all rights, THEY provide the hospitality of filling them with SPECIAL ENERGY of ALL SUBTLE POWERS, THROUGH THEIR THOUGHTS.”

Shiv Bap, in His role as the ‘Parlokik’ Father, AND, Brahma Dada, in his role as the ‘Alokik’ Mother, invoke EACH Righteous Child - who have ALSO since DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness - in their subtle angelic form, and call them FACE to FACE, in the Subtle Region, and provide them with the hospitality of filling them with SPECIAL ENERGY of ALL SUBTLE POWERS, THROUGH THEIR THOUGHTS – and NOT JUST through words, spoken through the mouth of ANY OTHER impure perishable corporeal body, on this corporeal sphere!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that REAL Shiv Bap & Brahma Dada, reside within the ‘brikuthi’, or the center of the forehead, of his impure perishable corporeal body, and give ‘unlimited clarifications’ of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, in the SMs & AVs, originally spoken THROUGH Brahma Baba – which are ACTUALLY the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED ‘unlimited clarifications’ of same, based on the DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan Bhakti’ of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, or the ‘Path of Devotion’ of the ‘Night of the Cycle’ - thus making THOROUGH IDIOTS out of them!


एक है अपने पुरूषार्थ द्वारा शक्ति की प्राप्ति करना। यह है मात-पिता के स्नेह की पालना के रूप में विशेष खातिरी करना।
“One is to attain power through your own efforts. This is to receive SPECIAL hospitality in the form of the sustenance of Love from the Mother and Father.”

In ADDITION to attaining power through their OWN efforts, the Righteous Children – who have ALSO since DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness - receive SPECIAL hospitality in the form of the sustenance of UNLIMITED Divine Spiritual Love from Mother Brahma and Father Shiva, THROUGH THEIR THOUGHTS – in the Subtle Region.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that Mother Brahma and Father Shiva, CANNOT sustain the Righteous Children, ONLY THROUGH THEIR THOUGHTS, in the Subtle Region – since Shiva DOES NOT operate through the SUBTLE body of Brahma Baba, in the Subtle Region (according to them) – thus TOTALLY DIVORCING themselves from the PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE of receiving SUCH Spiritual Sustenance from REAL BapDada, in the Confluence Age - EVEN AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body in 1969!


जैसे साकार में याद है ना, हर ग्रुप को विशेष स्नेह के स्वरूप में अपने हाथों से खिलाते थे, और बहलाते थे। वही स्नेह का संस्कार अब भी प्रैक्टिकल में चल रहा है। इसमें सिर्फ बच्चों को बाप समान आकारी स्वरूप धारी बन अनुभव करना पड़े।
“You remember, how in ‘Sakar’, BapDada, as an embodiment of special Love, USED to feed every group with THEIR own hands and entertain them. That SAME sanskar of Love is STILL CONTINUING in a PRACTICAL way. You Children JUST NEED to become EQUAL to the Father in your angelic form and EXPERIENCE this.

Just as Mother Brahma and Father Shiva, as BapDada, USED to feed EVERY group, who USED to come to REAL Madhuban, with THEIR own hands and entertain them, THROUGH the corporeal body of Brahma Baba UNTIL 1969, so also, the SAME sanskar of UNLIMITED Spiritual Divine Love is STILL CONTINUING in a PRACTICAL way, THROUGH the SUBTLE body of Brahma Baba AFTER 1969, in the Subtle Region – but the Righteous Children JUST NEED to become EQUAL to Father Brahma, in their OWN angelic form, in order to EXPERIENCE this POWERFUL Spiritual Sustenance from BapDada.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that Mother Brahma and Father Shiva, as BapDada, CANNOT sustain the Righteous Children, in the Subtle Region, in a PRACTICAL way - (which is CONTRARY to what REAL BapDada have CLEARLY DECLARED in this Version) – owing to which they are UNABLE to DEVELOP their their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, or their OWN angelic form, to be able to EXPERIENCE the POWERFUL Spiritual Sustenance from BapDada, in the Subtle Region – and therefore, they remain TRAPPED in the TREACHEROUS CLAWS of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and in the VICIOUS GRIP of EXTREME SUBTLE body-consciousness – WITHOUT EVEN REAL-EYEsing, as to what EXACTLY is ACTUALLY taking place!


जब भी फ्रा हो तो वतन में आ जाओ। सागर के किनारे मिट्टी में नहीं जाओ। ज्ञान सागर के किनारे आ जाओ। बिगर खर्चे के बहुत प्राप्ति हो जायेगी। सूर्य की किरणें भी लेना, चन्द्रमा की चाँदनी भी लेना, पिकनिक भी करना और खेल कूद भी करना। लेकिन बुद्धि रूपी विमान में आना पड़ेगा।
“Whenever You are free, come to the Subtle Region! Do not go on the sand of the seashore. Come to the shore of the Ocean of Knowledge. You will achieve a lot, without any expense. Receive the Rays of the Sun, the moonlight of the Moon, have a picnic, and also play games. However, You will have to come in the ‘airplane’ of your INTELLECT.

In order to receive the POWERFUL Rays of the Sun of Knowledge, Shiva, and the COOLNESS of the Moon of Knowledge, Brahma Baba, the Righteous Children have to come to the Subtle Region, in the AIRPLANE of their THIRD Divine EYE of the INTELLECT – and they CANNOT come THERE with their impure corporeal body!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he is the ‘Sun of Knowledge’ – when, in ACTUAL FACT, he is the ‘Sun’ of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, and the ‘Son’ of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Sun of Knowledge’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – who is instrumental to carry out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 11.09.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बाप कितना निरहंकारी रहते हैं, जिसमें प्रवेश करते हैं, वह भी कितना निरहंकारी है। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा के कितने ढेर बच्चे हैं। चलन कितनी साधारण है, जैसे घर में बड़ा बाबा चलते हैं। निराकार के लिए भी कहा जाता है - निरहंकारी है। गुप्त है ना। इनको यह नहीं रहता कि हमारा शो हो।
“The Father remains so egoless. The one He enters is also egoless. PrajaPita Brahma has so many Children, and yet his conduct is so simple; just like the conduct of a grand-Father at home. It is also said of the Incorporeal One that He is egoless. He is incognito. He does not have the desire for any (external) show.”

BOTH - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodAS WELL AS - REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – are EGOLESS. Shiva is INCOGNITO, and cannot be SEEN with the physical eyes, while Brahma Baba is EVIDENT; and BOTH of them DO NOT have ANY desire for ANY external show. The conduct of PrajaPita Brahma, who is Brahma Baba, is very simple, like the conduct of a grand-Father at home.


बाबा तो है ऊंच ते ऊंच। चलन गरीब से गरीब चलते हैं। बाप गरीब-निवाज है ना। गरीबों से ही मिलने आते हैं। ...
बाप तो है गुप्त। गरीब ही बाप से अपना वर्सा कल्प पहले मुआिफक ले लेंगे। ड्रामा में नूँध ही है। ...
बाप कहते हैं, मैं आता ही हूँ साधारण तन में। गाया हुआ है, ‘निराकार, निरहंकारी’।
“Baba is the Highest-on-High, and yet His conduct is like that of the poorest of the poor. The Father is the ‘Lord of the Poor’, and He ONLY comes to meet the poor. ... The Father is incognito. Only the poor will claim their inheritance from the Father, as they did in the previous Cycle. It is fixed in Drama. ...
The Father says: I ONLY enter an ORDINARY body. It is sung: ‘He is Incorporeal and egoless’.”

The Unlimited, INCOGNITO, EGOLESS, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, is the Highest-on-High, and yet His conduct is like that of the poorest of the poor. The Father is the ‘Lord of the Poor’, and He ONLY comes to meet those who are SPIRITUALLY poor and bankrupt, to enable them to claim their inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Him, number-wise, ONCE AGAIN, like a Cycle ago, THROUGH Brahma Baba - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age!


अज्ञान काल में भी बहुत दान करने वाले, बड़े आदमियों पास जन्म लेते हैं। यहाँ, तुम बाप के आगे सरेन्डर करते हो, तो पिछाड़ी में जो साहूकार बनते हैं, उनके पास जाकर जन्म लेते हैं। फिर तुम वहाँ महल माडियाँ बनायेंगे। दुनिया तो यही होगी। ...
तुम्हारे दिल में गुप्त खुशी है कि हम तो जाकर सोने के महल बनायेंगे। जैसे यहाँ पत्थरों की दीवार है, वहाँ सोने की दीवार होगी। हम पारसबुद्धि बनते हैं, तो महल भी सोने के बनाते हैं। पुराना सब खलास हो जायेगा। इस ड्रामा को बड़ा युक्ति से समझना होता है। नई दुनिया में सब कुछ नया होता है। यह कितनी सहज बातें हैं।
“Even on the ‘path of ignorance’, those who give a lot to charity, take their next birth in a grand family. Here, You surrender before the Father, and so You take your next birth with those who become wealthy, at the end. Then you will build palaces, etc., there. The World will be the same one. ...
You have incognito happiness in your hearts that You will go and build palaces of gold there. Just as you have brick walls here, You will have walls of gold there. We become ones with divine intellects, and so we make palaces, also of gold. Everything old will be destroyed. You have to understand this Drama with great wisdom. In the New World, everything is new. These are such easy aspects!”

The Righteous Children surrender EVERYTHING before their ‘Parlokik’ God Father, Shiva, in their CURRENT birth, in Confluence Age, and so they take their NEXT birth with those who become materially wealthy, towards the VERY END of Confluence Age, AFTER which they will have palaces of gold, and FOOLPROOF airplanes, in the beginning of Golden Age - built by instrumental souls with scientific and technological expertise, who carry those sanskars with them from the VERY END of Iron Age, after they come into the Knowledge towards the very end of Confluence Age.


बहुत बच्चे साधारण रूप देख मूँझते हैं, उल्टा बोलने लग पड़ते हैं। अच्छे-अच्छे बच्चे, उनको भी माया चमाट मार देती है। समझते हैं - बस जो कुछ है, निराकार ही है। सो तो ठीक है ना। निराकार नहीं होता, तो हम तुम कैसे होते? परन्तु निराकार को तो रथ जरूर चाहिए ना। रथ बिगर क्या करेंगे, शिवबाबा क्या करेगा? रथ में आये, तब तो तुम उनसे मिलेंगे। ‘तुम्हीं से सुनूँ, तुम्ही से बैठूँ’। तो रथ जरूर चाहिए ना? अच्छा, साकार बिगर, निराकार को याद कर दिखाओ। क्या तुमको ज्ञान प्रेरणा से मिलेगा? फिर मेरे पास आये ही क्यों हो? यह बाबा भी कहता है कि वर्सा तो शिवबाबा से लेना है। शिवबाबा कहते हैं, मैं इस साधारण तन में बैठ पढ़ाता हूँ। पढ़ाई तो जरूर चाहिए ना। बहुत अच्छे-अच्छे बच्चों का माथा ही फिर जाता है। दो चार सेन्टर खोलते तो बस अहंकार आ जाता है। फिर उल्टा बोलते रहते हैं। फिर कभी बुद्धि में आ भी जाता है कि यह हमने ठीक नहीं कहा, फिर पश्चाताप करते हैं। बाबा कहते हैं, मैं साकार बिगर कैसे समझाऊंगा। इसमें प्रेरणा की तो बात ही नहीं। मैं टीचर के रूप में बैठता हूँ।
“On seeing the ORDINARY form (of Brahma Baba), MANY Children become confused and start saying WRONG things. Maya slaps even very good Children. They think that ONLY the Incorporeal is everything. That is correct. If it were not for the Incorporeal One, how could You and I be here? However, the Incorporeal One certainly needs a Chariot. What could He do without a Chariot? What could ShivBaba do? Only when He enters a Chariot can You then meet Him. You say, ‘I only hear from You’, ‘I only sit with You’, and so a Chariot is definitely needed, is it not? OK, just show how You would Remember the Incorporeal without the corporeal! Would You receive Knowledge through inspiration? In that case, why have You come to Me, at all? THIS (Brahma) Baba also says that You have to claim your inheritance from ShivBaba. ShivBaba says: I sit in THIS (‘EES’) ORDINARY body and TEACH You. Study is definitely needed. The heads of MANY good Children TURN. They open two to four Centers, and then they have ego, and they then continue to say WRONG things. Then, sometimes, it enters their intellects that what they said was not right, and so they repent. Baba says: How can I explain without the corporeal one? There is no question of inspiration in this. I am sitting in the form of a TEACHER.

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, sits in the form of a TEACHER, in Confluence Age, and TEACHES the Righteous Children the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & RajYog, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.

PRIOR 1969, MANY Children became CONFUSED, on seeing the ORDINARY corporeal body of Brahma Baba, and started saying WRONG things, after being CROSS with Brahma Baba. Maya THEN SLAPPED them, and they began to think that since the Incorporeal One is EVERYTHING, they could have DIRECT connection with Shiva, WITHOUT having anything to do with Brahma Babawhen Shiva was STILL in the process of giving the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba. In order to caution such SENSELESS Children, and bring them to their PROPER SENSES, Shiva spoke this Version, wherein He CLEARLY indicated that He DEFINITELY NEEDS the corporeal Chariot of Brahma Baba, in order to give the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, which CANNOT be given through INSPIRATION, since the Children are STILL body-conscious; and that they would NOT BE ABLE to Remember Him ACCURATELY, UNTIL He COMPLETES giving ALL the REQUIRED Knowledge to them. PRIOR 1969, the heads of MANY good Children TURNED, owing to their ego, and they then continued to say WRONG things, after being CROSS with Brahma Baba - UNTIL they REAL-EYEsed that they HAD to come to Brahma Baba, in order to meet ShivBaba, and continue to receive the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba - only after which it entered their intellects that what they said earlier was not right, and so they repented thereafter!

AFTER ShivBaba COMPLETES giving the REQUIRED Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, through the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, in 1969, Brahma Baba achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’ or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE. Thereafter, BOTH, ShivBaba & Brahma Baba, as BapDada, CONTINUE to Spiritually sustain and nourish the Righteous Children, who have since ALSO DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, in ‘Avyakt’, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED.

When Brhama Baba enacts his role of REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL PrajaPita Brahma, on this corporeal sphere, through his impure corporeal body, OBVIOUSLY Shiva has to MOST CERTAINLY use the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, and DOES NOT use the SYMBOLIC PERFECT form of Subtle Brahma, seen in the Subtle Region – since there CANNOT be ANY corporeal roles there, and since subtle roles had STILL not commenced there – UNTIL 1969, when Brahma Baba achieves his COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE - after which the SYMBOLIC PERFECT form of Subtle Brahma, NO LONGER EXISTS in the Subtle Region, since Brahma Baba, HIMSELF, becomes that PERFECT form, in PRACTICAL. AFTER 1969, subtle role is enacted in the Subtle Region by ShivBaba, through the SUBTLE body of Brahma Baba, where the Righteous Children can READILY interact with them AT ANY TIME of the day or night, WITHOUT having to depend on ANY corporeal body of ANY embodied soul on this corporeal sphere - through the THIRD Divine EYE of their intellect!
For further comprehension of this SUBTLE aspect of Spirituality, view relevant points in AV dated 06.01.1983, in post dated 10.09.2017, in link below –
viewtopic.php?f=40&p=53314#p53314

The BLIND Unrighteous children are UNABLE to understand ANYTHING in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects, and hence they are STILL CONFUSED about the Avyakt role of BapDada - and since they are UNABLE to develop their own ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, they are UNABLE to READILY interact with Avyakt BapDada - as a consequence of which they remain COMPLETELY TRAPPED in the VICIOUS CLAWS of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, after having EXPOSED their intellects to the the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge!
The Defamer Of God, who is the the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS them into DELUSIVELY believing that Shiva DOES NOT come to meet the Righteous Children, ALONG WITH the SUBTLE body of Brahma Baba, using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, OR, that Shiva DOES NOT operate in the Subtle Region, through the SUBTLE body of Brahma Baba, AFTER he achieves his COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE in 1969 - by CONSTANTLY CONFOUNDING them, and TRAPPING their intellects with an OLD point spoken in the SMs, where Shiva had said that He DOES NOT ENTER the Subtle Brahma in Subtle Region, DURING the PERIOD of TIME, when he operates through the impure corporeal body of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, who is Brahma Baba, on this corporeal sphere - since THAT is ONLY a SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE PERFECT Form of Brahma Baba, seen in the Subtle Region, ONLY DURING THAT SPECIFIC TIME PERIOD. When Brahma Baba achieves his COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE in 1969, he, HIMSELF, becomes THAT PERFECT form, through his SUBTLE body in the Subtle Region, in PRACTICAL - when THAT SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE PERFECT Form of Brahma Baba, is NO LONGER seen SEPARATELY THEREAFTER!
In spite of CLEARLY EXPLAINING this SUBTLE aspect of Spirituality SEVERAL TIMES, the BLIND Unrighteous children CONTINUE to REPEAT that OLD point, ARROGANTLY, and CONTINUE to DELUSIVELY believe in same (like an OLD gramophone record stylus which gets STUCK ONLY in ONE GROOVE, and keeps REPEATING the same point, like a PARROT), owing to their INVERTED intellects - to draw comfort, and FALSELY convince themselves and others, that Shiva comes into the impure perishable corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru, AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body - by HIJACKING ALL SUCH points from the SMs, as ABOVE, which ACTUALLY pertain EXCLUSIVELY to Brahma Baba, and RECKLESSLY keep applying same to their bodily guru, who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


कहते भी हैं, ‘रूद्र यज्ञ में असुरों का किचड़ा पड़ा’ - वह समझते हैं, शायद गोबर आदि डालते होंगे। सचमुच यह गोबर है। फालतू बोलने लग पड़ते हैं। क्रोध आदि करते, यह जैसे गोबर डालते हैं। चलते-चलते किसको ग्रहचारी बैठती है, तो छटेले बन जाते हैं। माया थप्पड़ मार एकदम इनसालवेंट बना देती है। ... ‘संग तारे, कुसंग बोरे..’, बाबा बिल्कुल मना कर देते हैं। ... बाबा कहते हैं - इस ज्ञान यज्ञ में असुरों के विघ्न बहुत पड़ेंगे। शुरू से ही पड़ते आये हैं। मुख्य है ही पवित्रता की बात।
“People say that ‘the dung of the Devils fell into the sacrificial Fire of Rudra’; they think that they probably put cow-dung, etc., (into it). In fact, the REAL ‘cow-dung’ is the wasteful things that they continue to say. They become angry, and this is as though they are putting ‘cow-dung’. While some are moving along, they experience bad omens and become orphans. Maya slaps them and makes them COMPLETELY INSOLVENT. ... ‘Good company takes you across and bad company drowns you’.., Baba absolutely forbids You (to keep bad company). ...
Baba says: There will be many obstacles created by Devils in this sacrificial Fire of Knowledge. There have been obstacles right from the beginning. The main aspect is that of purity.”

The REAL ‘cow-dung’, which the Devils, or Demons – being the BLIND Unrighteous children – throw inside the sacrificial Fire of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge of Rudra, or Shiva, is the WASTEFUL things, that they continue to propagate AGGRESSIVELY – in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge! The BLIND Unrighteous children, whilst moving along under the influence of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, experience bad omens, and THEN become orphans, when they are SLAPPED by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Rudra’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!
The BLIND Unrighteous children become COMPLETELY INSOLVENT by EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - the BAD company of which COMPLETELY DROWNS them, and makes them FOUNDER in the ‘Ocean of Poison’ – while DELUSIVELY giving them the WRONG impression that they are being taken ACROSS towards the ‘Ocean of Nectar’!


सेकेण्ड में जीवनमुक्ति पाते हैं, फिर झट जीवनबंध भी हो जाते हैं। देरी नहीं करते। बाप कहते हैं, बच्चे खबरदार रहो। तुम रूप-बसन्त बन सदा मुख से रत्न ही निकालो। किचड़ा सुनना भी नहीं चाहिए। समझो हमारा यह दुश्मन है। ज्ञान के सिवाए और सब बातें सुनना ईविल है।
“They receive Liberation-in-Life in a second, and then come into a ‘life of bondage’, just as quickly, without delay. The Father says: Children, remain cautious! Become ‘rup-basant’ (embodiment of Remembrance & Knowledge) and let ONLY Jewels (of Knowledge) emerge from your mouth. You should NOT EVEN LISTEN to rubbish. You should consider that one to be your ENEMY. To listen to anything other than Knowledge is EVIL.

The BLIND Unrighteous children come to take the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, to receive Liberation-in-Life in a second, but INSTEAD, they come into a ‘life of bondage’, just as quickly, by EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, without delay – by allowing themselves to be TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Rudra’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

This is EXACTLY the REASON why the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, CLEARLY cautions the Righteous Children to be VERY CAREFUL, and to ensure that ONLY the Jewels of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge emerge from their Divine intellects; and that they should NEVER LISTEN to the POISON, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, which is EVIL - and they should consider the BLIND Unrighteous children, who propagate same, under the NEGATIVE INFLUENCE of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, ACTING through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, to be their SWORN Spiritual ENEMY!

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Post by Golden Heart » 12 Sep 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 12.09.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
तुमको ज्ञान सागर बाप मिला है, तो उनका ही सुनना पड़े। दूसरे की तुमको क्या सुनने की दरकार है?
“You have found the Father, the Ocean of Knowledge, and so You should listen to Him, ALONE. What is the need for You to listen to ANOTHER?

The Righteous Children have found the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, who is the Ocean of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, THROUGH Brahma Baba - and hence they listen to ONLY ONE ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, (who is ALSO their ‘Parlokik’ Mother & Grand-Father), THROUGH ONLY ONE ‘Alokik’ Father, Brahma Baba, (who is ALSO their ‘Alokik’ Mother).

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children have ONLY found the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan – being the ‘ocean’ of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – and hence they listen ONLY to THEIR bodily guru, (who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – while DELUSIVELY believing that they are listening to ONLY ONE ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva – who operates through the impure perishable corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru, after Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body, in 1969 (according to them)!


बाप जो शिवाचार्य है, वह ज्ञान का कलष तुम माताओं के सिर पर रखते हैं। बाकी इस पतित दुनिया में लक्ष्मी कहाँ से आई। लक्ष्मी-नारायण तो सतयुग में होते हैं। अभी शिवबाबा इन द्वारा बैठ समझाते हैं। शिवाचार्य वाच, ब्रह्मा मुख से - तुम बरोबर स्वर्ग के द्वार खोलते हो, तो जरूर तुम ही मालिक बनेंगे।
“The Father - who is Shiva, the Teacher - places the ‘Urn of Knowledge’ on the heads of You Mothers. Where would Lakshmi come from in this impure World? Lakshmi & Narayan exist ONLY in the Golden Age. ShivBaba NOW sits and explains through THIS one. Shiva, the Teacher, speaks through the Mouth of Brahma. You TRULY do open the gates of Heaven, and so You, YOURSELVES, will definitely become the Masters.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, places the ‘Urn of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge’ on the heads of the Righteous Mothers, who are the TRUE Brahma Kumaris (BKs), and who are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, (who is Brahma Baba) – and THESE Righteous Mothers TRULY open the gates of REAL Heaven, where, they THEMSELVES, become the Masters – ALONG WITH Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama, as the VERY FIRST World Sovereigns, Lakshmi & Narayan of Golden Age!
Lakshmi & Narayan can NEVER set their feet in this impure World, through their PURE corporeal bodies, and they exist ONLY in Golden Age – and NOT in Confluence Age!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, along with his MAIN CONSORT, represent the FICTITIOUS ‘Lakshmi & Narayan’ of Confluence Age! This, ACTUALLY, symbolically represents them - BUT during the confluence between Silver Age and Copper Age - when they transfer their Religio-Political Power to their offspring, being the VERY SAME souls of the VERY FIRST PAIR of Lakhsmi & Narayan of Golden Age, who are born to them, AT THAT TIME, as TWINS!


बाप भी यह सेवा करते हैं ना - पतित से पावन बनाना; तुम्हारा भी यही धन्धा है, जो बाप का धन्धा है।आत्माओं को स्वर्गवासी बनाओ।
“The Father also does this Service of making impure ones pure. Your Business is also the SAME as the Father's Business. Make souls into residents of Heaven.”

The Spiritual Business of the CONCERNED Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), is the SAME as the Spiritual Business of the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, THROUGH Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age - which is to make impure ones pure, to enable them to become the ELEVATED residents of REAL Heaven, or REAL Paradise, on Earth, in the New Kingdom of RamRajya – commencing from the beginning of Golden Age.

Whereas, the Diabolic Business of the BLIND Unrighteous/Unworthy children, or FALSE Brahmins, (MASQUERADING as TRUE Brahmins), is the SAME as the CLANDESTINE Diabolic Business of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, (who ALSO MASQUERADES as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) - which is to keep the impure ones trapped in subtle body-consciousness, by EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, to enable them to THEN become the ELEVATED residents of APPARENT Heaven, or FALSE Paradise, on Earth, in the kingdom of Ravan Rajya – commencing from the beginning of Copper Age.


मुरली तो सुनना है ना। निराकार बाप तुमको डायरेक्शन कैसे सुनायेंगे, उनको मुख जरूर चाहिए। ब्रह्मा मुख से अथवा ब्रह्माकुमार कुमारियों से सुनना है। कोई बाहर में दूर चले जाते हैं। मुरली भी नहीं मिल सकती है, तो बाप कहते हैं कोई हर्जा नहीं है। तुम याद में रहो और स्वदर्शन चक्र फिराते रहो। यह बाप की श्रीमत मिली हुई है।
“You have to listen to the Murli. How would the Incorporeal Father give You directions? He definitely needs a mouth. You have to hear from the Mouth of Brahma, or from the Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs). Some go far way outside, and they cannot even receive Murlis. So, the Father says: IT DOES NOT MATTER. Simply stay in Remembrance and spin the discus of Self-Realisation. You have received this Shrimat from the Father.”

The Righteous Children have to listen to the Sakar Murli/Avyakt Vani spoken through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, either directly from the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, through his corporeal/subtle body, PRIOR/AFTER 1969 - or from the officially appointed Brahma Kumars or Kumaris (BKs), PRIOR/AFTER 1969 – which STILL represent the Pure UNADULTERATED Shrimat of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or Godwhether Brahma Baba is in a corporeal body or NOT!
ONCE Shiva COMPLETES giving the REQUIRED Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba – NO FURTHER Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge is required to be given by Shiva – and the Righteous Children have to CONTINUE REVISING the VERY SAME Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, UNTIL they are ABLE to ACTUALLY IMBIBE same, and UNTIL they are ABLE to remain in ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE ‘Parlokik’ God Father, Shiva, ALONE; and UNTIL they are ABLE to PRACTICALLY spin the discus of Self-Realisation – to be ABLE to FINALLY become pure from impure, and claim their inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Shiva, THROUGH Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age ITSELF!


तुम शरीर को याद करते रहते हो, आत्मा को भूल गये हो। इसलिए पूछा जाता है – ‘आत्मा का बाप कौन है, उनको जानते हो? उनका नाम, रूप, देश, काल लिखो’। उनमें भी वैरायटी लिखते हैं। कोई लिखते आत्मा का बाप हनूमान है, कोई क्या लिखते, कितना अज्ञान है। तो फिर समझाया जाता है - आत्मा तो है निराकार। तुम्हारा गुरू तो साकार है। निराकार का बाप साकार कैसे होगा? समझाने की प्रैक्टिस पर सारा मदार है, और साथ में मैनर्स भी अच्छे चाहिए।
“You continue to remember the body, since you have forgotten the soul. This is why they are asked:
Do you know who the Father the soul is? Write down His Name, Form, Land and Time period’. They write a variety of things (in reply to this). Some write that the Father of souls is Hanuman, and some write something else. There is so much ignorance! It is then explained: A soul is incorporeal and your guru is corporeal. How could the Father of an incorporeal one be corporeal? Everything depends on the practice of how You explain. Together with that, You also need good manners.”

The Righteous Children FOCUS their FULL ATTENTION on REVEALING their Unlimited, INCORPOREAL ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, to ALL the other embodied souls of the WHOLE World – since they make CONCERTED EFFORTS to EXPERIENCE themselves as INCORPOREAL souls - FIRST of ALL - to be THEN able to EXPERIENCE their REAL Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, who is ALSO INCORPOREAL – JUST LIKE THEM – ‘Like Father, like Son’!

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children FOCUS their FULL ATTENTION on REVEALING THEIR bodily guru, whom they DELUSIVELY believe to be THEIR ‘unlimited’, CORPOREAL ‘alokik’ father, or THEIR ‘Prajapita’, to ALL the other embodied souls of the WHOLE World – since they DO NOT make CONCERTED EFFORTS to EXPERIENCE themselves as INCORPOREAL souls - FIRST of ALL; and therefore, they DELUSIVELY consider that their father should ALSO be CORPOREAL - FIRST of ALL – thus INADVERTENTLY TRAPPING themselves in the VICIOUS GRIP of EXTREME SUBTLE body-consciousness – WITHOUT EVEN REAL-EYEsing, as to what EXACTLY is ACTUALLY taking place!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 13.09.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
पहले नम्बर में बाबा, आत्मा और परमात्मा का भेद समझाते हैं। मनुष्य न तो आत्मा को, और न परमात्मा को ही जानते हैं। तुम बच्चों ने जान लिया है - आत्मा और परमात्मा का रूप क्या है!
“The first thing that Baba explains is the DIFFERENCE between a soul and the Supreme Soul. Human beings neither know the soul nor the Supreme Soul. You Children now know what the form of a soul and the Supreme Soul is.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, DOES NOT come into the Cycle of birth and death, and DOES NOT take corporeal bodies on this corporeal sphere, LIKE individual souls DO! NO individual embodied soul can be called, or regarded, as the ‘Supreme Soul’ – ONLY the ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ God Father, Shiva, can be referred to as the Supreme Soul.


परमात्मा भी स्टार है, परन्तु तुम भूल जाते हो। जब शिवबाबा को याद करते हो, तो बुद्धि में यह आना चाहिए कि बाबा स्टार है, उनमें सारा ज्ञान है। वह सत है, चैतन्य है। उनमें ही बुद्धि भी है।
“The Supreme Soul is also a STAR, but You forget. When You Remember ShivBaba it should enter your intellects that Baba is a STAR, and that He has the WHOLE Knowledge within Him. He is the Truth and the Living Being. His intellect is also within Him.”

Just as the individual soul is a Star, or a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, is ALSO a STAR, or a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – ‘Like Father, like Son’!


आत्मा इतनी जो सूक्ष्म है, वह सत है, चैतन्य है। आत्मा जब गर्भ में प्रवेश करती है, तब ही चुरपुर होती है। यूँ तो 5 तत्वों में भी कुछ चैतन्यता है, तब तो बढ़ते हैं, परन्तु उनमें मन-बुद्धि नहीं है। उन चीजों में संकल्प आदि की बात नहीं। गर्भ में पिण्ड बढ़ता है। जैसे झाड़ बढ़ता है, वैसे पिण्ड बढ़ता है, परन्तु उनमें ज्ञान नहीं। ज्ञान, भक्ति मनुष्यों के लिए है। भक्ति आत्मा करती है, और ज्ञान भी आत्मा लेती है। आत्मा में ही मन-बुद्धि है, पहले मन में अच्छा वा बुरा संकल्प आता है, फिर बुद्धि सोचती है - करूँ वा नहीं करूँ।
“The soul that is so subtle is the living being and the truth. Only when a soul enters the womb, is there a movement (within the foetus). In fact, even the five elements have SOME consciousness, which is why they grow, but they DO NOT have a mind or intellect; those things DO NOT have ANY thoughts, etc. The foetus grows in the womb. Just as a tree grows, so does the foetus, but there is NO knowledge in them. Knowledge and Devotion are for human beings. Devotion is performed by the soul, and Knowledge is also imbibed by the soul. The mind and intellect are only in the soul. Good or bad thoughts first arise in the mind, and then the intellect decides whether same should be carried out or not.”

Since trees and corporeal bodies, BOTH grow, the trees can be REGARDED as having SOME consciousness, but they DO NOT have a mind or intellect, and hence they DO NOT have any thoughts, or any knowledge in them. Only embodied human souls can perform Devotion, and imbibe Knowledge.


आगे जो कुछ करते थे वह रांग ही करते थे, भक्ति भी अनराइटियस करते थे। शिव की भक्ति करते हैं, बड़ा लिंग बनाते हैं, परन्तु इतना बड़ा शिवबाबा थोड़ेही है। अब तुम्हारी बुद्धि का ताला खुला है, तब समझते हो, सब अनराइटियस है। है ही झूठी दुनिया। सतयुग है सच्ची दुनिया। उसकी स्थापना किसने की? ट्रुथ एक बाप को ही कहा जाता है। वह जो सुनाते हैं, सब सत। सच बोलते हैं, सचखण्ड स्थापना करते हैं। यह डीटेल की बड़ी महीन बातें हैं। कोई भी यह समझ न सके। बहुत महीनता में जाना पड़ता है।
“Whatever You used to do before, You were doing it wrongly. The Devotion You performed was also UNRIGHTEOUS. They make a huge lingam to worship Shiva, but ShivBaba is NOT that huge. Now that the locks on your intellects have opened, You understand that all of that is UNRIGHTEOUS. This World is FALSE, whereas the Golden Age is the TRUE World. Who established it? ONLY the ONE Father is called the Truth; WHATEVER He tells You is ALL TRUE. He speaks the Truth and establishes the ‘Land of Truth’. These are very deep, detailed aspects, which NO ONE else can understand. You have to go into a lot of depth.”

The ‘shooting’ carried out by the BLIND Unrighteous children – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age - through the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – is UNRIGHTEOUS & FALSE – which represents the FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, or the UNRIGHTEOUS Devotion performed by the BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, in the form of ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan Bhakti’, representing the DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED Devotion, prevalent during the ‘Night of Brahma’, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’!
The BLIND Unrighteous children have been INDOCTRINATED to remember THEIR APPARENT ‘ShivBaba’ within the impure perishable corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru – (who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – since they are UNABLE to Remember REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, the way He ACTUALLY is – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – owing to their EXTREME SUBTLE body-consciousness, and ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects – and this represents the EXACT ‘shooting’, in Confluence Age, of the BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, who have to worship Shiva, by making a huge STONE lingam representing Him, since they are UNABLE to Remember Him - as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – owing to their GROSS body-consciousness, and STONE intellects!


बाप ब्राह्मण बच्चों से ही बात करते हैं। शूद्र इन बातों को समझेंगे नहीं। पहले सात रोज समझाकर ब्राह्मण बनाओ, जो समझें हम शिववंशी ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारी हैं। इस पढ़ाई से तुम नई दुनिया के मालिक बनते हो। यह है ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा के सब बच्चे हैं। उनको ग्रेट-ग्रेट ग्रैन्ड फादर कहा जाता है। ब्रह्मा को हमेशा बड़ा बूढ़ा दिखाते हैं।
The Father ONLY speaks to the Brahmin Children. ‘Shudras’ WILL NOT understand these things. First of all explain to them for seven days and make them into Brahmins, so that they can realize that they belong to the clan of Shiva, and that they are Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (BKs). You become the Masters of the New World through THIS Study. These are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, who are ALL the Children of PrajaPita Brahma. He is called the great, great grand-Father. Brahma is always portrayed as a great old man.”

The word, ‘Brahma’, and the term, ‘PrajaPita Brahma’, BOTH refer to ONLY ONE, SINGULAR embodied soul of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, through whose Lotus Mouth, Shiva adopts the Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), and hence they are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba), who is also called as the great, great grand-Father of humanity.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that the word, ‘Brahma’, refers to Brahma Baba, while the term, ‘PrajaPita Brahma’, refers to himself; and that the Righteous Children are NOT the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma Baba, but his ‘womb-born’ progeny - (primarily because they keep his photo in front of them, when they Remember ShivBabaaccording to them); and that they are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma - whom they STAUNCHLY consider to be THEIR bodily guru - (BUT who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – thus being instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


पहले-पहले समझानी देनी है एक बाप की, तब तक आगे बढ़ना ही नहीं है। बाप की समझानी दे, फिर लिखवा लेना चाहिए। निश्चय बैठ जाए कि शिवबाबा से बेहद का वर्सा मिलता है, तो ऐसे बाप से मिलने बिगर रह न सकें। त्रिमूर्ति शिव कहा जाता है। ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर को रचने वाला शिव। प्रजापिता जरूर ब्रह्मा को ही कहेंगे। विष्णु वा शंकर को नहीं कहेंगे। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा द्वारा विष्णुपुरी की स्थापना होती है। जगत पिता और यह जगत अम्बा फिर लक्ष्मी-नारायण जाकर बनते हैं। उनके बच्चे वारिस बनते हैं। बाकी त्रिमूर्ति ब्रह्मा का तो अर्थ ही नहीं निकलता।
FIRST of ALL, give them the explanation of the ONE Father. UNTIL then, You should not proceed any further (until they have understood same). After giving them the explanation of the Father, You should get them to write it down. Once they have the faith that they claim their Unlimited inheritance from ShivBaba, they will not be able to stay without meeting such a Father. It is said: Trimurti Shiva. Shiva is the One who creates Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar. You would definitely call Brahma, ‘the Father of the People’ (‘PrajaPita’). You would NOT call Vishnu or Shankar that. The ‘Land of Vishnu’ is established through PrajaPita Brahma. THIS World Mother and the World Father then go and become Lakshmi & Narayan (in Golden Age). Their children become their heirs. Therefore, there is no meaning in saying, ‘Trimurti Brahma’. ”

The Righteous Children have to FOCUS their ATTENTION, FIRST of ALL, in giving the explanation of the ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, to others – and should NOT proceed ANY further, UNTIL they have FULLY understood who their Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Father is.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children FOCUS their ATTENTION, FIRST of ALL, in giving the explanation of THEIR bodily guru, whom they DELUSIVELY consider to be THEIR ‘Prajapita’, to others – and they TOO have been INDOCTRINATED NOT to proceed ANY further, UNTIL the others have FULLY understood who THEIR CORPOREAL ‘Prajapita’ or ‘Jagadpita’ is!

ONLY REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev can be called as ‘the Father of the People’ (‘PrajaPita’), and ONLY his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, can be called as World Mother (‘JagadAmba’).
The World Mother, Saraswati Mama & the World Father, Brahma Baba, who are the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age, THEMSELVES, THEN go and become the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, Lakshmi & Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age (by VIRTUE of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age)!

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Post by Golden Heart » 14 Sep 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 14.09.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
शिव भगवानुवाच - अब यह तो बच्चे समझ गये हैं कि इनका नाम शिव तो नहीं है। वह तो है निराकार शिव भगवानुवाच, बच्चे समझते हैं कि निराकार तो शिवबाबा को ही कहा जाता है, और कोई मनुष्य मात्र के लिए नहीं कहेंगे। निराकार पतित-पावन शिवबाबा ही ज्ञान का सागर है। वह इस तन द्वारा बैठ समझाते हैं। उसे ही परमपिता परमात्मा कहते हैं।
“God Shiva speaks. You Children have NOW understood that the name of THIS one (Brahma Baba) is not Shiva. That One is Incorporeal God Shiva who speaks. You Children understand that ONLY ShivBaba can be called the Incorporeal One. This cannot be said of any human being. ONLY Incorporeal ShivBaba, the Purifier, is the Ocean of Knowledge. He sits and explains through THIS one’s body. He ALONE is called the Supreme Father Supreme Soul.”

ONLY the ONE Unlimited, ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, can be called the INCORPOREAL (‘Nirakar’) One, who ALWAYS remains in His INCORPOREAL (‘Nirakari’) stage, and who is addressed LOVINGLY by the Righteous Children as ‘ShivBaba’, when He operates THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.

The name of Brahma Baba is NOT Shiva - and ONLY the ONE Incorporeal One is addressed as ‘ShivBaba’, which DOES NOT pertain to the COMBINATION of the TWO souls of Shiva & Brahma Baba, but ONLY to ONE ‘Parlokik’ God Father, Shiva – WHETHER He is within the corporeal/subtle body of Brahma Baba or NOT!
REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE, is called the Supreme Father Supreme Soul - and NO embodied soul can be called as the ‘Supreme Soul’!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that the term, ‘ShivBaba’, pertains to the COMBINATION of the TWO souls of Shiva & himself – (who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – ONLY WHEN Shiva operates through his impure perishable corporeal body, and NOT by Himself (according to him) – and he ALSO TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), being ‘Supreme’ among ALL OTHER embodied souls on this corporeal sphere (according to him) - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


पिता को, और अपनी आत्मा को समझना है। ... आत्मा स्टॉर है - निराकार है, तो उनका बाप भी तो निराकार होगा। छोटा बड़ा तो हो नहीं सकता। जैसे आत्मा है, वैसे परमात्मा है। वह है सुप्रीम। सबसे ऊंच ते ऊंच। पहले तो आत्मा को समझना है कि आत्मा किसकी सन्तान है!
“You have to understand the Father, and yourself, the soul. ... The soul is an incorporeal Star, so the Father would also be Incorporeal. He cannot be any larger or smaller; as is a soul, so is the Supreme Soul. He is the Supreme, the Highest-on-High. FIRST of ALL, You have to understand the soul, and whose child the soul is!”

Likewise, the term, ‘Highest-on-High’, can pertain to ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva – and to NO OTHER embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that the term, ‘highest-on-high’, pertains to himself – being the ‘highest’ among ALL OTHER embodied souls on this corporeal sphere (according to him) - since God Father, Shiva, CANNOT be compared to ANY embodied soul, and He is SEPARATE by Himself, and hence He CANNOT be called as ‘Highest-on-High’ (according to him) - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


बाप उनको ही समझाते हैं, जिनकी आत्मा में 84 जन्मों का पार्ट नूँधा हुआ है। फिर परमात्मा खुद ही रियलाइज कराते हैं, वो आत्मा थोड़ेही करा सकती है। परमात्मा खुद ही रियलाइज कराते हैं कि मैं तुम्हारा बाप अति सूक्ष्म हूँ। ... सभी आत्माओं का बाप निराकार है।
The Father ONLY explains to THOSE souls, who have parts of 84 births fixed in them. Then, the Supreme Soul Himself makes You have realization; no human soul can do that. The Supreme Soul Himself makes You realize that He is your Father and that He is very subtle. ...
The Father of all souls is Incorporeal.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, HIMSELF, explains ONLY to the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who take the FULL and COMPLETE 84 births, within this ENTIRE Cycle of 5000 years duration; and He, HIMSELF, makes them REAL-EYEs that He is their REAL ‘Parlokik’ God Father, who is Incorporeal and VERY SUBTLE – a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy - just like the individual souls, who are ALSO like Him - a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – ‘Like Father, like Son’!


बाप कहते हैं - न मैं मनुष्य हूँ, न मैं देवता हूँ। मैं तो ऊंच ते ऊंच निराकार परमात्मा हूँ। मैं कल्प-कल्प इस साधारण तन में पढ़ाने आता हूँ। तुम जानते हो कि अभी हम बरोबर ब्राह्मण बने हैं, फिर सो देवता बनेंगे।
“The Father says: I am NEITHER a human being, NOR a Deity. I am the Highest-on-High, Incorporeal Supreme Soul. I enter THIS ORDINARY body every Cycle in order to TEACH You. You understand that You have NOW definitely become Brahmins, and that You will THEN become Deities.”

The Highest-on-High Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, is NEITHER a human being, NOR a Deity, who enters His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age, Cycle after Cycle, in order to TEACH the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & RajYog to the CONCERNED Righteous Children - who FIRST become ELEVATED Brahmins from ordinary human beings, in Confluence Age, and THEN become ELEVATED Deities in the New World of RamRajya, during Golden & Silver Ages.


तुम शिवबाबा के पोत्रे भी हो, तो बच्चे भी हो। अज्ञानकाल में ऐसे नहीं कहेंगे कि मैं दादे का पौत्रा भी हूँ। बच्चा भी हूँ। तुम बच्चे, दादे के हो शिववंशी। फिर शिवबाबा एडाप्ट कर बी.के. बनाते हैं। वह निराकार हो गया, वह साकार हो गया। निराकार बाप के तुम बच्चे हो। फिर कहते हैं - ब्रह्मा द्वारा मैं तुमको एडाप्ट करता हूँ। तो ब्रह्मा के बच्चे होने के कारण, तुम मेरे पोत्रे हो। तुमको वर्सा शिव बाबा से मिलता है।
“You are Children, AS WELL AS, Grand-Children of ShivBaba. Those who are in ignorance would not say:
I am a grandchild, as well as, a child of my grand-Father. You Children are the progeny of Shiva, the Grand-Father. THEN ShivBaba adopts You, and makes You into a Brahma Kumar or Kumari (BK). That One (ShivBaba) is Incorporeal, and this one (Brahma Baba) is corporeal. You are the Children of the Incorporeal Father. He then says: I adopt You THROUGH Brahma. Therefore, because You are Children of Brahma, You are (ALSO) My Grand-Children. You receive your inheritance from ShivBaba.”

The CONCERNED Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), are Spiritually adopted by INCORPOREAL ‘Parlokik’ God Father, Shiva, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of CORPOREAL ‘Alokik’ Mother, Brahma Baba, (who is ALSO their ‘Alokik’ Father), and hence they are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma, who receive their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father, (who is ALSO their ‘Parlokik’ Father), THROUGH their ‘Alokik’ Father, (who is ALSO their ‘Alokik’ Mother).
‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, FIRST adopts Brahma Baba, as His Spiritual Wife, and THEN as His VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Spiritual Child, AFTER entering him, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth of his VERY OWN impure corporeal body. ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, THEN adopts ALL OTHER CONCERNED Righteous Children, including Saraswati Mama, through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba. Therefore, Shiva is the ‘Parlokik’ Father, AS WELL AS, the ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father of the CONCERNED Righteous Children – who are His Righteous Children, AS WELL AS, His Righteous Grand-Children – who receive their inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father, Shiva, THROUGH their ‘Alokik’ Father, Brahma Baba - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.


शिवबाबा है ही आत्माओं का बाप। मरने समय शिवबाबा के सिवाए और कुछ भी याद न आये, तो भी स्वर्ग में जायेंगे। कोई कम बात थोड़ेही है। पहले-पहले तो अपने को आत्मा निश्चय करना है। वह है फिर परमपिता परमात्मा। नाम उनका शिव है। आत्मा भी बिन्दी रूप है। परमात्मा भी बिन्दी है। जैसे आत्मा में 84 जन्मों का पार्ट है, परमात्मा का भी पार्ट है - पतितों को पावन बनाने का।
“ShivBaba is the Father of all souls. If, at the time of death, nothing (and NO ONE) EXCEPT ShivBaba is remembered, then TOO You would go to Heaven. This is no small matter! FIRST of ALL, have the faith that You are a soul, and that He is the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, whose Name is Shiva. The form of a soul is also a Point, and the Supreme Soul is also a POINT. Just as a soul has a part of 84 births, so too, the part of the Supreme Soul is to purify the impure.”

FIRST of ALL, embodied souls must have the faith that they are souls – a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy - and that the Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Father of ALL souls, is Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva – who is ALSO a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – ‘Like Father, like Son’! ONLY THEN, would the individual embodied souls be able to maintain ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of their Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – through the Spiritual FIRE of which, their sins of innumerable births would be VIGOROUSLY INCINERATED, they would become pure from impure, and they would THEN be able to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya - from their Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, THROUGH their ‘Alokik’ Father, Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age ITSELF!


इस समय कोई कर्मातीत बन जाये तो शरीर छोड़ना पड़े। सूक्ष्मवतन में जाकर बैठना पड़े। मूलवतन में तो जा न सके। पहले ब्राइडग्रूम जाये, तब तो ब्राइडस जायेंगी। उनसे पहले कैसे जा सकते? बुद्धि भी कितनी दूरादेशी चाहिए।
“If someone becomes ‘karmateet’ at THIS time, he would have to leave his body, and go and sit in the Subtle Region. No one can return to the Supreme Abode (yet). The Bridegroom has to return first, and then the Brides will follow. How could anyone go before Him? Such a far-sighted intellect is needed!”

Although it takes LESS THAN ONE MICRO-SECOND for the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, to travel from the Supreme Abode, or the Soul World, to this corporeal World – YET, He would FINALLY return back to the Supreme Abode – ONCE and FOR ALL, at the VERY END of Confluence Age, (UNTIL the Confluence Age of the NEXT Cycle) – ONLY WHEN ALL embodied souls become soul-conscious ONCE AGAIN, at the VERY END of Confluence Age, to be able to FINALLY return along with Him & Brahma Baba, back to their Sweet Silence Home, the Soul World, or the ‘Land of Silence’!
A very far-sighted, DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND this SUBTLEST aspect of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 15.09.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
यह रूद्र ज्ञान यज्ञ है, कोई मनुष्य का नहीं, प्रजापिता ने यह यज्ञ नहीं रचा है। यह रूद्र यज्ञ है। ज्ञान सागर अथवा शिव ने यह यज्ञ रचा है। यज्ञ तो अनेक प्रकार के रचते हैं ना? जैसे दक्ष प्रजापति कहते हैं। अब दक्ष प्रजापति तो है नहीं! ब्रह्मा है प्रजापिता, दक्ष प्रजापति अक्षर नाम कहाँ से आया? बाप बैठ समझाते हैं - यह रांग बनाया हुआ है! शास्त्रों में भी लम्बी चौड़ी कथायें लिख दी हैं। अब बाप कहते हैं, जो भी सुनते आये हो - सब भूलो। मैं जो तुमको सुनाता हूँ वह सुनो।
“This is the sacrificial Fire of the Knowledge of Rudra; it does not belong to ANY human being. PrajaPita has NOT created this sacrificial Fire. This is the sacrificial Fire of Rudra. The Ocean of Knowledge, who is Shiva, has created this sacrificial Fire. Various types of sacrificial fires are created. They say Daksh Prajapati creates them. There is NO Daksh Prajapati. Brahma is the Father of Humanity (‘PrajaPita’). Where did the name, ‘Daksh Prajapati’, come from? The Father sits and explains: That has been created wrongly. Many tall and long stories have been written in the Scriptures. Now the Father says: Forget ALL the things You have been listening to, and listen to that which I tell You.”

The sacrificial Fire of the Knowledge of Rudra, or Shiva, has been created by the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’, who is Shiva, or Rudra - and NOT by PrajaPita, or by ANY OTHER human being.

The BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, say that ‘Daksh Prajapati’ is the creator of such sacrificial fire – but there is NO ‘Daksh Prajapati’ involved in the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge - which is meant for the establishment of RamRajya during the ‘Day of the Cycle’ – in Confluence Age ITSELF. Many tall and long stories have been written in the Scriptures of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, which are ALL FALSE, and which represent the FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – the EXACT ‘shooting’ of which takes place, in Confluence Age, through the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, which represents the FALSE Gita, and which is initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – who ACTUALLY represents the FALSE ‘Daksh Prajapati’, who is instrumental to regenerate and sustain the TEN MAJOR religious ideologies during the ‘Night of the Cycle’, representing the TEN HEADS of Ravan or Maya, on a SUBTLE LEVEL – thereby being instrumental for the establishment of Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


प्रजापिता तो एक ही होगा ना। जो भी यज्ञ रचते हैं, वह सब हैं मटेरियल यज्ञ। यह है रूहानी बाप का रूहानी यज्ञ, इसमें भी ब्राह्मण चाहिए। वह ब्राह्मण तो हैं कुख वंशावली। तुम हो मुख वंशावली। मुख वंशावली कब पुजारी हो न सकें। तुम पूज्य बनते हो, वह हैं पुजारी। तुम गायन लायक बनते हो। तुम्हारी पूजा अभी नहीं हो सकती। अगर देहधारी की पूजा करते हैं, तो यह रांग है।
“There would ONLY be ONE PrajaPita. Whichever sacrificial fires they create are ALL material sacrificial fires. This is the Spiritual sacrificial Fire of the Spiritual Father, in which Brahmins are also required. Those Brahmins are the ‘womb-born’ creation, whereas You are the ‘mouth-born’ creation. Those who are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny can never be worshipers. You are becoming worthy of worship, whereas they are worshipers. You become praise-worthy, but your worship cannot take place now. If they worship ANY bodily being, then that is WRONG.”

The ONLY ONE, REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL PrajaPita of the ENTIRE human race within this EWD Play, is REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, through whose Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice, Shiva delivers the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge to Humanity – which represents the TRUE Gita, through which the establishment of RamRajya takes place – in Confluence Age ITSELF.

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are adopted by Shiva through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, and hence they are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba), who are praise-worthy in Confluence Age, and who are becoming worthy of worship, from being worshipers.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, (MASQUERADING as the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma), are INFLUENCED by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya - MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc., through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who ALSO MASQUERADES as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – and hence, they are ACTUALLY the ‘womb-born’ progeny of THEIR Brahma, (MASQUERADING as ‘Daksh Prajapati’, or as THEIR ‘Prajapita’), who carry out the ‘shooting’ of the worshipers of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age, by endeavouring to remember THEIR ‘ShivBaba’, within the impure corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru – which is WRONG!


वहाँ राम को तो 4 भाई होते नहीं। वहाँ बच्चा भी तो एक होता है। चार बच्चे कहाँ से आये! बाप कहते हैं, मैं तुमको इन सब शास्त्रों का सार बताता हूँ।
“There, Rama DOES NOT have four brothers. There, they have ONLY ONE son. So, where did the four sons come from? The Father says: I explain the ESSENCE of ALL these Scriptures to You.”

Shiva explains the ESSENCE of ALL the Scriptures of Ravan Rajya to the Righteous Children, in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, which represents the TRUE Gita, through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, and CLARIFIES that they have written MANY tall and long stories in those Scriptures, which are 99 per cent FALSE, and have ONLY ONE per cent truth in them – the quantum of truth being equivalent to ONLY ‘a PINCH of Salt, in a HANDFUL of Flour’ – which represent the FALSE Gita of Ravan Rajya.

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, INDOCTRINATES the BLIND Unrighteous children, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED ‘unlimited clarifications’ of ALL the Scriptures of Ravan Rajya – in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – by TREACHEROUSLY MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING & MISAPPROPRIATING the Pure Versions of God, in the SMs & AVs, to be in ABSOLUTE CONSONANCE with the DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of ‘Rajopradhna & Tamopradhan Bhakti’ of the ‘Path of Devotion’ of Ravan Rajya - and THOROUGHLY FOOLS them into DELUSIVELY believing that the tall and long stories written in those Scriptures, are 99 per cent TRUE, and have ONLY ONE per cent FALSEHOOD in them – since the PINCH of Salt, which represents TRUTH, essentially pervades the ENTIRE HANDFUL of Flour – thus TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING them into DELUSIVELY believing that the FALSE Gita is the TRUE Gita – when understood in that PARTICULAR (DISTORTED & PERVERTED) PERSPECTIVE!


यहाँ तुम्हारी पढ़ाई और योग इकठ्ठे हैं। पढ़ाने वाले को भी याद करना पड़े। बाप कहते हैं, मामेकम् याद करो। भूल से कृष्ण का नाम डाल दिया है। सन्यासी आदि तो कृष्ण को याद करते नहीं हैं। बाकी किसने कहा, ‘मनमनाभव’? तत्व वा ब्रह्म तो नहीं कह सकता। बाप इस मुख का आधार लेकर कहते हैं – बच्चे, मामेकम् याद करो। कृष्ण कैसे कहेगा? कृष्ण की आत्मा किसमें प्रवेश हो कहे, वह भी नहीं हो सकता।
“Here, your Study and Yoga are SIMULTANEOUS. You also have to remember the One who is TEACHING You. The Father says: Remember Me, ALONE! They have inserted Krishna’s name by mistake. Sannyasis, etc., do not remember Krishna. So, who said, ‘Manmanabhav’? The Brahm element cannot say this. The Father takes the support of THIS Mouth and says: Children, Remember Me, ALONE! How could Krishna say this? It is also NOT possible for the soul of Krishna to enter someone else’s body and say this.”

The soul of Shri Krishna of Golden Age, who is Brahma Baba in Confluence Age, DOES NOT enter ANYONE else’s corporeal body, in Confluence Age, and say, ‘Manmanabhav’.
ONLY the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, takes the support of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, and says, ‘Manmanabhav’ (‘Remember Me, ALONE’) – through his Lotus Mouth!


कांग्रेसी लोग कितना आवाज से बोलते थे। उन्हों का लीडर था - बापू जी। वह था जिस्मानी बापू जी। यह है फिर रूहानी बाप। सभी का बाप तो गांधी जी हो न सके। शिवबाबा तो सबका बाप है ना। ब्रह्मा भी बाप है जरूर। परन्तु इस समय सिर्फ तुम जानते हो। सारी दुनिया तो नहीं मानेंगी क्योंकि समझते नहीं। यहाँ हम ‘बापू’ निराकार शिवबाबा को कहते हैं। वह सभी का बाप है।
“The people of the Congress (Party) used to speak so loudly, and their leader was Bapuji (Gandhi). That one was a corporeal Bapuji (father), whereas this is the Spiritual Father. Gandhiji cannot be everyone’s father. ShivBaba is everyone’s Father. Brahma is ALSO a Father, but it is ONLY You who know this, AT THIS TIME. The whole World will not accept this because they do not understand it. Here, we call Incorporeal ShivBaba, ‘Bapu’. He is the Father of ALL.”

Although Brahma Baba is ALSO the ‘Alokik’ Father of the Righteous Children, they call ONLY the Unlimited, Incorporeal ShivBaba, ‘Bapu’, since He is the ‘Parlokik’ Father of ALL souls.


अब लक्ष्मी-नारायण तो दिखाते हैं, परन्तु नारायण के बाप का नाम क्या है? कभी बता न सकें। अब कृष्ण के माँ-बाप दिखाते हैं। राधे और कृष्ण दोनों के माँ-बाप अलग-अलग हैं। राधे और जगह की थी, कृष्ण फिर और जगह का था। सतयुग की बातों का सारा अगड़ग-बगड़म कर दिया है। लक्ष्मी-नारायण के माँ-बाप का नाम कहाँ। नारायण का बर्थ कहाँ। यह कोई भी नहीं जानते कि राधे कृष्ण ही फिर लक्ष्मी-नारायण बनते हैं।
“Now, they show Lakshmi & Narayan, but what was the name of Narayan’s father? They would not be able to say. They show Krishna’s mother and father. The mother and father of Krishna were DIFFERENT from Radhe’s. Krishna came from one place, and Radhe from another. They have confused EVERY aspect of the Golden Age. Where are the names of the mothers and fathers of Lakshmi and Narayan? Where did Narayan take birth? No one knows that Radhe and Krishna, THEMSELVES, THEN become Lakshmi and Narayan.”

The corporeal parents of Shri Krishna of Golden Age are DIFFERENT from the parents of Shri Radhe of Golden Age - whose birth takes place 2 to 3 years AFTER the birth of Shri Krishna of Golden Age. Therefore, they are NOT siblings; and Shri Krishna of Golden Age comes from one place, while Shri Radhe of Golden Age comes from another place. Their parents are Brahmins in Confluence Age, but their Spiritual status is LOWER than Shri Krishna and Shri Radhe of Golden Age - who are the VERY FIRST Prince & Princess of Golden Age, who THEMSELVES, THEN become the VERY FIRST, HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, Lakshmi & Narayan of Golden Age, (AFTER their coronation), by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God REFUTES ALL ABOVE CLEAR DECLARATIONS of God Father, Shiva, and CONFUSES & CONFOUNDS every aspect of the Golden Age, (commencing from the beginning of RamRajya), with the aspects of Ravan’s ‘Golden Age’, commencing from the beginning of Ravan Rajya – which ACTUALLY pertain to Ravan’s APPARENT ‘Heaven’, or APPARENT ‘Paradise’, commencing from the beginning of Copper Age.


बाप कहते हैं, भक्ति मार्ग की कितनी बड़ी सामग्री है। ज्ञान में तो सिर्फ बीज को जानना होता है। बीज के ज्ञान से सारा झाड़ बुद्धि में आ जाता है। तुम जानते हो ऊंच ते ऊंच भगवान है, जो परमधाम में रहते हैं। वहाँ तो सभी आत्मायें रहती हैं।
“The Father says: There is so much paraphernalia on the ‘Path of Devotion’. In Knowledge, ONLY the SEED has to be understood. With the ‘Knowledge of the SEED’, the WHOLE Tree enters your intellect. You understand that God is the Highest-on-High, who lives in the Supreme Abode, where ALL souls live.”

In the ‘Path of Knowledge’, ONLY the SEED - Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the Highest-on-High – has to be understood; and with this Pure UNADULTERATED ‘Knowledge of the SEED’, the WHOLE Tree enters the intellects of the Righteous Children EASILY.

Whereas, in the ‘shooting’ of the ‘Path of Devotion’, there is so much paraphernalia, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – which CONFUSES & CONFOUNDS the REAL SEED - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – with the APPARENT, or FALSE, ‘seed’ - the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, (who ALSO MASQUERADES as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God)!
In the ‘shooting’ of the ‘Path of Devotion’, the BLIND Unrighteous children DELUSIVELY consider, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, to be the REAL ‘seed’ - and with that FALSE ‘seed’ of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, the WHOLE ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED Tree of REVERSED advanced knowledge, enters the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED intellects of the BLIND Unrighteous children EASILY, and CAPTIVATES them COMPLETELY!


सूक्ष्मवतन में तो हैं सिर्फ ब्रह्मा-विष्णु-शंकर। ब्रह्मा और विष्णु तो पुनर्जन्म में आते हैं, बाकी शंकर नहीं आता। जैसे शिवबाबा सूक्ष्म है, वैसे शंकर भी सूक्ष्म है, तो उन्होंने फिर शिव शंकर को इकठ्ठा कर दिया है। परन्तु हैं तो अलग-अलग ना। शिवबाबा ब्रह्मा द्वारा स्थापना, विष्णु द्वारा पालना, फिर शंकर द्वारा विनाश कराते हैं। ब्रह्मा सो विष्णु हो जाता है। ब्रह्मा-सरस्वती सो लक्ष्मी-नारायण बनते हैं।
“Only Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar reside in the Subtle Region. Brahma and Vishnu take rebirth, but Shankar DOES NOT. Just as ShivBaba is SUBTLE, so Shankar is also Subtle. Therefore, they have then combined Shiva and Shankar. However, in fact, they are separate. ShivBaba gets establishment carried out through Brahma, sustenance through Vishnu, and destruction through Shankar. Brahma, HIMSELF, becomes Vishnu. Brahma & Saraswati, THEMSELVES, become Lakshmi & Narayan.

Shankar DOES NOT come on this corporeal sphere to enact ANY corporeal role, through ANY corporeal body, like Shiva does. Since Shankar is ALSO Subtle, like Shiva, the BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya have then MIXED UP, or COMBINED, Shiva with Shankar – the EXACT ‘shooting’ of which takes place in Confluence Age, when the BLIND Unrighteous children MIX UP, or COMBINE, Shiva with THEIR bodily guru – (who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – DELUSIVELY considering ONLY the COMBINATION of these TWO souls to be THEIR ‘ShivBaba’ - and NOT just Shiva, by HIMSELF, to be ShivBaba!

Brahma Baba or soul of DLR & Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, THEMSELVES, THEN become the VERY FIRST, HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, Lakshmi & Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age, by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age – who are PRIMARILY represented by the SYMBOLIC form of Vishnu, or MahaLakshmi.


पहले तो निश्चय बैठे कि हमको पढ़ाने वाला नॉलेजफुल गॉड फादर है, तब और बातों को समझ सकेंगे। गॉड फादर कैसे आकर पढ़ाते हैं, यह किसको पता नहीं है। लिखा हुआ भी है भगवानुवाच। उनका नाम शिव है। परम आत्मा है ना। परम अर्थात् सुप्रीम। परमधाम में तो सब रहते हैं। आत्माओं में भी सुप्रीम पार्ट तो किसका होगा ना। उनको क्रियेटर, डायरेक्टर, मुख्य एक्टर कहा जाता है। वह है रचयिता, करनकरावनहार, फिर पार्टधारी भी है। इसमें आकर कितना पार्ट बजाते हैं, जिससे भारत स्वर्ग बनता है।
“FIRST of ALL, they should have the faith that the One who is TEACHING us is Knowledge-FULL God Father. Then they can understand the other things. No one knows how God, the Father, comes and TEACHES. It has also been written that God speaks. His name is Shiva, who is the Supreme Soul. ‘Param’ means Supreme. Everyone resides in the Supreme Abode (‘Paramdham’). Someone, among the souls, has to have the Supreme part. He is called the Creator, the Director and the Principal Actor. He is the Creator and Karankaravanhar (the one who gets done through others), and then He also plays a part. He enters THIS one and plays a GREAT part, through which Bharat becomes Heaven.

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God ONLY enters His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, and plays a GREAT part, through which Bharat becomes REAL Heaven, commencing from the beginning of Golden Age.

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, influences the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, to MASQUERADE as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - to play a TREACHEROUS part, through which Bharat becomes APPARENT ‘Heaven’, commencing from the beginning of Copper Age!


बाप कहते हैं, जो भी कुछ पढ़ा है, सब भूल जाओ। बाप, टीचर, सतगुरू मैं ही हूँ - 21 जन्मों का तुमको वर्सा देता हूँ। फिर भी अहो मम माया, तुम कब्रिस्तानी बना देती हो। शिवबाबा परिस्तानी बनाते हैं, माया बहुत बच्चों को धोखा देती है क्योंकि श्रीमत पर ठीक रीति नहीं चलते हैं।
“The Father says: Forget EVERYTHING You have studied. ONLY I am your Father, Teacher and Satguru. I give You the inheritance for 21 births. In spite of that, Oh Maya, you bury them in the graveyard! ShivBaba makes You into residents of the ‘Land of Angels’, but Maya deceives MANY Children, because they DO NOT follow Shrimat ACCURATELY.”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God makes the Righteous Children into the residents of the ‘Land of Angels’ (‘Paristhani’), with the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, spoken THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba.

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, makes the BLIND Unrighteous children into the residents of the ‘Land of Demons’, or the ‘graveyard’ (‘Kabristhani’), with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, spoken through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

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Post by Golden Heart » 16 Sep 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 16.09.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
यह पुरानी दुनिया तो खत्म होनी ही है। यह बेहद के रावण की लंका है, जो विनाश होनी है। वह जो सिलान में लंका दिखाते हैं, वह तो बात ही बिल्कुल झूठी है। सीलान एक टापू (बेट) है - समुद्र के बीच में। बेहद का बाप समझाते हैं कि यह सारी दुनिया है समुद्र के ऊपर, आलराउन्ड समुद्र है।
“This old World has to definitely end. This is Ravan’s unlimited Lanka (Island) which will be destroyed. That aspect of showing Ceylon as Lanka is TOTALLY FALSE. Ceylon is an island in the middle of the ocean. The Unlimited Father explains that this whole World is on the ocean; with the ocean all around it.”

This SAME old World, (referred to as Ravan’s ‘Lanka’), will be transformed into the New World, (referred to as RAMA’s Paradise – ‘Vaikunth’ or ‘Swarg’) – and in this PARTICULAR sense - this old World will ‘END’, and ALL the old customs & systems will be ‘DESTROYED’.
The ‘Lanka’, mentioned in the SMs, DOES NOT refer to ONLY Ceylon, or Sri Lanka, which is a SMALL island, but it refers to the Unlimited Island of the WHOLE World, with the waters of the oceans all around it!


रावण का राज्य सारे बेहद के आइलैण्ड पर है। यह बेहद की लंका है। सिर्फ सिलान नहीं है। वह समय तो अब है ना। यह तो शास्त्रों में कितने गपोड़े लगाये हैं। हम भी समझते थे, शायद ऐसा हुआ होगा। कुछ भी ख्याल नहीं चलता था। विचार करें तब तो ख्याल चले ना। बुद्धि बिल्कुल लॉकप थी। अब बुद्धि का ताला खुला है।
“Ravan’s kingdom is over the WHOLE Unlimited Island. This is the unlimited Lanka; it is not just Ceylon. That period is at THIS TIME. There are so MANY tall stories written in the Scriptures. We also used to think that it was perhaps like that; we had no other thoughts! You would only ponder about this, if You were to think about it. Intellects were completely locked up. The locks on your intellects have now opened.”

There are MANY tall stories written in the Scriptures of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, which are ALL TOTALLY FALSE, (meant only as an entertainment, or PASTIME, during the ‘Night of the Cycle’) - which represent the FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – the EXACT ‘shooting’ of which takes place in Confluence Age, through the FALSE, ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!
The intellects of the BLIND Unrighteous children are STILL COMPLETELY LOCKED, and have STILL NOT OPENED - and they BLINDLY ACCEPT the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, WITHOUT using their OWN intellects LOGICALLY & INTELLIGENTLY – since their intellects have become ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED, AFTER EXPOSURE to the FALSE, ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge!


यह विनाश ज्वाला इस यज्ञ से प्रज्वलित हुई है। लड़ाई शुरू यहाँ से ही हुई है। अभी तो यह छोटी-छोटी रिहर्सल है।
“The flames of destruction are to be ignited from this sacrificial Fire. The fighting started ONLY from here. Now, these are just small rehearsals.”

The SUBTLE warfare COMMENCES from the sacrificial Fire of the Knowledge of Rudra, or Shiva, within the intellects of the TWO DIFFERENT MAIN GROUPS of CONCERNED souls, WITHIN the Yagya, which THEN gets translated into a Subtle WAR of Words – using the VERY SAME points of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, in the SMs & AVs – but with OPPOSING VIEWPOINTS – ONE VIEWPOINT pertaining to the ‘Day of the Cycle’ & the OTHER VIEWPOINT pertaining to the ‘Night of the Cycle’ – which THEN TRIGGER the THIRD & FINAL WORLD WAR (‘MahaBharat ladayi’) through physical weapons, in the outer World of Ravan Rajya, through which the FINAL process of World TRANSFORMATION from the Old World to the New World PROGRESSES – which is SUPREMELY BENEVOLENT, (‘Mahabhari MahaBharat ladayi MahaKalyankari hai’), for World PURIFICATION & World TRANSFORMATION!


शास्त्र तो पढ़ते रहते हैं, उनका कोई दोष तो है नहीं। ...
पहले होती है-अव्यभिचारी भक्ति, फिर है व्यभिचारी भक्ति।
“They continue to study the Scriptures, but they are not to be blamed. ...
First of all, Devotion is UNADULTERATED, and later on Devotion becomes ADULTERATED.”

The BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, having been THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATED by their respective BLIND bodily gurus, CONTINUE to study the FALSE Scriptures of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, (which represent the FALSE Gita), UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age – the EXACT ‘shooting’ of which is carried out by the BLIND Unrighteous children, in Confluence Age, who CONTINUE to study the FALSE, ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, (which represents the FALSE Gita), UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age – DELUSIVELY considering the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya - CLANDESTINELY OPERATING through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, (MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – to be REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God!

Devotion is, AT FIRST, UNADULTERATED (‘Satopradhan’), in the beginning of Ravan Rajya, towards the beginning of Copper Age; and THEN, Devotion ALSO, GRADUALLY becomes ADULTERATED, by the end of Ravan Rajya, towards the end of Iron Age!

Similarly, the Pure Knowledge, in the SMs & AVS, spoken by Shiva, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba is UNADULTERATED; while the CORRUPTED & REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – is TOTALLY ADULTERATED!


अब तुम बच्चे समझते हो कि ज्ञान का सागर अथाह ज्ञान देते हैं, और अन्त तक देते ही रहेंगे। हम यह मुरली इक्ठ्ठी कर सकेंगे क्या? यह रखने की चीज ही नहीं है। शास्त्र आदि तो फिर भी भक्ति मार्ग के काम में आते हैं। हम जो लिखते हैं, वह फिर क्या काम में आयेंगे! कहाँ तो हमारी 2-4 हजार मुरलियां, कहाँ उन्हों की करोड़ों के अन्दाज में गीतायें बनती हैं, सब भाषाओं में।
“You Children NOW understand that the Ocean of Knowledge is giving the ULTIMATE Knowledge, and WILL CONTINUE to GIVE, UNTIL the END. Would it be possible for us to collect all these Murlis together? These are not things to be kept, at all! At least the Scriptures, etc., are STILL useful on the ‘Path of Devotion’! Of what use will all that You write be? On the one hand, You produce two to four thousand Murlis, whereas they produce the Gita by the millions in all languages.”

The Scriptures, etc., which CONTINUE to be produced from the beginning of Copper Age, or the beginning of Ravan Rajya, are STILL useful, THROUGHOUT Ravan Rajya, from the beginning to the end, until the end of the Iron Age, or the end of Ravan Rajya.
Whereas, the ULTIMATE Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, which Shiva gives through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, THROUGHOUT the Confluence Age, from the beginning to the end, in the form of SMs & AVs, are meant to be IMBIBED by the CONCERNED souls, and get destroyed at the END of Confluence Age, and are NOT USEFUL, or NOT USED, THROUGHOUT RamRajya, from the beginning of Golden Age to the end of Silver Age – since the CONCERNED souls are the PRACTICAL EMBODIMENT of same, during the ‘Day of the Cycle’, and hence have NO NEED for them!


कहते भी हैं सर्व का सद्गति दाता एक है। गाते भी हैं, ‘ज्ञान अंजन सतगुरू दिया..’, अर्थात् ब्रह्मा की रात खत्म होती है। ज्ञान सूर्य प्रगटा, ब्रह्मा की रात पूरी होती, फिर दिन शुरू हो जाता है। परमपिता परमात्मा ब्रह्मा द्वारा नया ज्ञान देते हैं।
“They even say that the Bestower of Salvation for All is One. They also sing, ‘When the Satguru gives the ointment of Knowledge, the darkness of ignorance is dispelled..’, that is, the ‘Night of Brahma’ comes to an end. When the Sun of Knowledge rises, the ‘Night of Brahma’ completes, and THEN the ‘Day (of Brahma)’ begins. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul gives New Knowledge THROUGH Brahma.”

The Unlimited Supreme ‘Parlokik’ Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, Shiva, who is the ‘Sun of Knowledge’, gives the New, Pure UNADULTERATED, ULTIMATE Knowledge, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is the ‘Moon of Knowledge’ - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – which brings about the TRANSITION from the ‘Night of Brahma’ to the ‘Day of Brahma’, when the ‘Night of the Cycle’ ENDS & the ‘Day of the Cycle’ is BEGINS!


बाबा कहते हैं, माया एक सेकेण्ड में गिरा देती है। सेकेण्ड में जीवनमुक्ति से, सेकेण्ड में जीवनबंध बन पड़ते हैं। फारकती दे देते हैं, खलास। निश्चय हुआ - यह बादशाही लो। संशय हुआ, खलास। बड़ा वन्डरफुल खेल है।
“Baba says: Maya makes them fall in a second. From becoming Liberated-in-Life, in a second, they enter a ‘life of bondage’, in a second. They divorce (Baba), and everything is finished. When there is faith, they claim this Sovereignty, but when doubts come, it all finishes. This is a very WONDERFUL Play.”

From having the CHANCE of becoming Liberated-in-Life, IN A SECOND, through the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, the BLIND Unrighteous children, BLINDLY enter a ‘life of bondage’, IN A SECOND, by EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge. Hence, INSTEAD of becoming capable of claiming the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, they ONLY become capable of claiming their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of the ‘unlimited’ (in terms of population) world of Ravan Rajya.
This is a very WONDERFUL & MAGNIFICENT EWD Play, but can be APPRECIATED as such, ONLY when understood in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


तुम बच्चों को मालूम है कि बाबा एक दो बजे उठकर मुरली लिखते थे, जो तुम पढ़कर फिर क्लास कराते थे। फिर बाबा बैठ सुनते थे कि देखें कैसे मुरली चलाते हैं। यह सब तो शिवबाबा का ही कमाल था। कितने अच्छे-अच्छे बच्चे थे, चले गये। आज हैं नहीं। माया ने एकदम श्रापित कर दिया।
“You Children know that (Brahma) Baba used to wake up at one, or two, AM, and write a Murli, which You would Study, and then conduct a class. Then Baba would sit and listen, to see how You would conduct the Murli. All of this was the wonder of ShivBaba, Himself. There were so many good Children, who left; they are not here today. Maya cursed them UTTERLY.”

In the beginning of the Yagya, Brahma Baba used to wake up at one, or two, AM, and Shiva, or REAL ShivBaba, used to make him write a Murli, EMERGING in his OWN intellect, through his VERY OWN Lotus Hands, of his VERY OWN corporeal body – which the Righteous Children would Study, and then conduct a class later, in the morning. BOTH, ShivBaba & Brahma Baba, as BapDada, would sit down below, and listen to the CONCERNED Righteous Children, as to how they would conduct the Murli, while sitting on the ‘gadi’ – as a matter of TRAINING them to be Teachers of RajYog, like BapDada.

There were MANY good Children at THAT TIME, who LATER left, since they began to have doubts - Maya cursed them UTTERLY, and they went into the stomach of the Python. Those VERY SAME children, THEN come back to the Yagya, as the BLIND Unrighteous children, in their next births, under the LEADERSHIP of the Defamer Of God - who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, INVOLVED in MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING & MISAPPROPRIATING EACH & EVERY Pure Version in the SMs & AVs, to be in ABSOLUTE CONSONANCE with the DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan Bhakti’ of Ravan Rajya, or the ‘Path of Devotion’ of the ‘Night of the Cycle’ – and TREACHEROUSLY presenting them as the ‘unlimited clarifications’ of the SMs & AVs, (originally spoken by Shiva THROUGH Brahma Baba), in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – while SIMULTANEOUSLY MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Rama’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishwar’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Sun of Knowledge’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar Bholenath’, Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, Confluence Age ‘Narayan’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – DELUSIVELY considering himself to be EVEN the Father of Brahma Baba, and EVEN the Father of REAL ShivBaba, and EVEN SUPERIOR to them – thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


यह ब्रह्मा है शिवबाबा का सपूत बच्चा। ब्रह्मा से अगर कोई सवाल पूछे, तो क्या जवाब नहीं दे सकते हैं? ‘भल शिवबाबा तो जानते हैं, परन्तु मैं भी तो समझा सकता हूँ ना’? बाबा ने राइट-हैण्ड बनाया है। कुछ तो समझा होगा ना?
“THIS Brahma is the WORTHY (‘saput’) Child of ShivBaba. If anyone were to ask Brahma a question, would he not be able to give an answer? ‘ShivBaba definitely knows, but I too can explain, is it not’? Baba has made him His Right Hand, because he must have understood something, is it not?”

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, is the NUMBER ONE, WORTHY (‘saput’) Child of ShivBaba, and the Right Hand of ShivBaba. Hence, NO OTHER embodied soul can have a HIGHER Spiritual status than Brahma Baba, within this EWD Play – being the VERY PEAK CREAM of the ENTIRE human race, ALONG WITH his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 18.09.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
वह तो न आत्मा को, न परमात्मा को जानते हैं। भल कहते हैं कि मैं आत्मा हूँ, परन्तु मैं क्या हूँ, यह कुछ भी पता नहीं। ... बाप आकर समझाते हैं, सेल्फ रियलाइजेशन कराते हैं। ... हम आत्मा हैं, हमारा बाप निराकार शिव है। ... न तो रचयिता, न रचना के आदि-मध्य-अन्त को जानते हैं, इसलिए उनको नास्तिक कहा जाता है। ... देही-अभिमानी न होने कारण, टाइम वेस्ट करते रहते हैं। घड़ी-घड़ी देह-अभिमान आ जाता है।
“They NEITHER know the soul, NOR the Supreme Soul. ALTHOUGH they say that they are souls, they DO NOT know what they (ACTUALLY) are! ... The Father comes and explains, and enables You to have Self-Realisation. ... We are souls, and our Father is Incorporeal Father Shiva. ... They neither know the Creator nor the beginning, the middle or the end of creation. Therefore, they are called atheists. ... Because of not becoming soul-conscious, they continue to waste their time; they repeatedly come into body-consciousness.”

The BLIND Unrighteous children, NEITHER EXPERIENCE themselves as souls – as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy - NOR EXPERIENCE their Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva – also as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy. ALTHOUGH they KEEP SAYING that they are souls, they DO NOT ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE themselves as souls - as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – since they have allowed themselves to become SEVERELY TRAPPED in the VICIOUS GRIP of EXTREME body-consciousness - after having been TREACHEROUSLY INDOCTRINATED into DELUSIVELY believing that they should remember THEIR ‘ShivBaba’, within the impure perishable corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru – (who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – AFTER having EXPOSED their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, through which their intellects have ALSO become ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED!
They DO NOT EXPERIENCE the ‘Parlokik’ Unlimited Creator, who is Incorporeal God Father, Shiva, and therefore - INSTEAD of FOCUSING their ATTENTION on revealing the INCORPOREAL Unlimited Creator, and the INCORPOREAL ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva – they FOCUS their ATTENTION on revealing their bodily guru, as the CORPOREAL ‘creator’ of EVEN Brahma Baba, and as their CORPOREAL ‘Alokik’ Father, whom they DELUSIVELY consider to be THEIR ‘Prajapita’ or ‘Jagadpita’, AS WELL AS, the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), and EVEN ‘Bhagwan’ (‘God’) – thus becoming instrumental to carry out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!
They are, therefore, considered to be atheists, who continue to waste their time, in Confluence Age, because of not being able to become soul-conscious, and because they repeatedly come into body-consciousness, by EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge!


माया का वार अच्छे-अच्छे बच्चों पर भी हो जाता है। कोई तो ऐसे मूर्ख बन जाते हैं, कहते हैं कि हमारा तो डायरेक्ट शिवबाबा से कनेक्शन है। परन्तु ब्रह्मा के आगे तो जरूर आना पड़ेगा ना? अच्छा, घर में भी जाकर बैठ जाओ, फिर मुरली कैसे सुनेंगे! क्या करेंगे? कहते, यह ब्रह्मा भी पुरुषार्थी है, हम भी पुरुषार्थी हैं। पढ़ते तो सब शिवबाबा से हैं, परन्तु ब्रह्मा पास आयेंगे, तब तो सुनेंगे ना? प्रेरणा से सुनकर दिखाओ, तो मालूम पड़े। फिर कभी-कभी बाबा मुरली बंद भी कर देते हैं। ब्रह्मा से जन्म लिया, और मर गया, फिर खत्म! वर्सा कैसे पायेंगे? ऐसे भी मंद बुद्धि बहुत संगदोष में खराब हो जाते हैं। फिर बताओ उनकी क्या गति होगी?
“Maya attacks even very good Children. Some become such fools, that they say they have a direct connection with ShivBaba. However, they would definitely have to come in front of Brahma, is it not? OK, even if they go and sit at home, how would they hear the Murli? What would they do? They say that this Brahma is also an effort-maker, and that they too are effort-makers. Everyone studies from ShivBaba, but only when they come to Brahma, would they be able to hear (personally). One would know, if they (ACTUALLY) demonstrate by HEARING through inspiration! Then, sometimes, Baba puts a stop to them receiving the Murli. They take birth through Brahma, and then die, and everything is then finished. How would they claim their inheritance? There are even many with such feeble intellects, who become wrongly influenced by bad company. So, what would then be their pace (and status)?”

This Version was spoken by Shiva, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, and therefore, same pertains EXCLUSIVELY to Brahma Baba – which has then been HIJACKED by the Defamer Of God to TREACHEROUSLY TRICK the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that same applies to him, after Brahma Baba becomes ‘Avyakt’ in 1969!

View point 4 of Revised SM dated 11.09.2017, in post of same date, in link below -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53315&hilit ... ion#p53315

Also view points 3 & 4 of Revised SM dated 25.08.2017, in post of same date, in link below -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53266&hilit ... ion#p53266

For further comprehension of this SUBTLE aspect of Spirituality, view relevant points in AV dated 06.01.1983, in post dated 10.09.2017, in link below -
viewtopic.php?f=40&p=53314#p53314

- and also by typing the word, ‘inspiration’, in the search facility of the topic, ‘Sakar Murli & Avyakt Vani points for churning’, of the sub-forum, ‘Ideological Interpretation of the Yagya History: BK and PBK versions’!

AFTER 1969, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, ATTACKS the BLIND Unrighteous children, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan – (MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, and makes them SUCH FOOLS, that they DELUSIVELY believe that they can have a DIRECT connection with THEIR ‘ShivBaba’, through the impure perishable corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru. However, they STILL have to depend on the SMs & AVs, originally spoken by Shiva, through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, for their ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED ‘unlimited clarifications’, (of the Pure UNADULTERATED Versions, in the SMs & AVs) – which they propagate, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge! But, IF they wish to hear the Pure UNADULTERATED Versions, they have to come to Meet BapDada, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, after 1969. But, owing to their ARROGANCE, they are UNABLE to do so, since they DELUSIVELY believe that they are receiving the ‘unlimited clarifications’ from Shiva, through the mouth of the impure perishable corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru, which they consider to be THEIR ‘Murli’ - but which ACTUALLY represents the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya! They take spiritual birth through Pure Versions, which emerged from the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, and then they die spiritually, by DELUSIVELY considering their bodily guru to be THEIR ‘Prajapita’, and everything is then finished for them, as far as the inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya is concerned! They DO NOT REAL-EYEs that they CANNOT claim the inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Shiva, THROUGH Brahma Baba – since they INADVERTENTLY DIVORCE themselves from, BOTH, REAL ShivBaba, AS WELL AS, Brahma Baba, by DELUSIVELY SURRENDERING their STONE intellects to the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc., through the the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ALSO MASQUERADING as ‘Prajapita Brahma’, etc.!


सतगुरू का निंदक बने, तो ऊंच ठौर पा नहीं सकेंगे। गुरू ब्रह्मा कहते हैं ना। गुरू विष्णु, गुरू शंकर नहीं कहेंगे। गुरू सिर्फ ब्रह्मा ही है। तुम भी माता गुरू बनती हो। सतगुरू द्वारा बनी हो, न कि कलियुगी गुरूओं द्वारा। तुम ब्राह्मण ब्राह्मणियां बनी हो। तुम्हारी है रूहानी यात्रा। मेहनत है, माया किसकी बुद्धि को ताला लगा देती है, तो फिर उल्टा-सुल्टा बोलते रहते हैं। वेस्ट आफ टाइम करते हैं।
“If they defame the Satguru, they cannot claim a high status. They speak of Guru Brahma. They would not say Guru Vishnu or Guru Shankar; only Brahma is the guru. You Mothers also become gurus. You become this through the Satguru, and NOT through Iron-Aged gurus. You have become Brahmins, and yours is a Spiritual pilgrimage. This takes effort. Maya locks the intellects of some, and so they continue to say topsy-turvy things. They continue to waste their time.

The BLIND Unrighteous children DEFAME the REAL ‘Parlokik’ Satguru, Shiva, by DELUSIVELY considering the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Prajapita’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, to be their ‘REAL’ ‘Satguru’, owing to which they CANNOT claim a high status!
The Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, LOCKS the intellects of the BLIND Unrighteous children, and they CONTINUE TO WASTE THEIR TIME, in Confluence Age, by CONTINUING to say topsy-turvy things, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge!


प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली बच्चे, जो ब्राह्मण ब्राह्मणी कहलाते हैं, आत्मा रूप में, आपस में भाई-भाई हैं। फिर ब्रह्मा द्वारा एडाप्ट हो भाई बहिन बनते हैं। वर्सा पाना है ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियों को, परमपिता परमात्मा से। शिवबाबा अपने बच्चों (आत्माओं) को कहते हैं, अब देही-अभिमानी वा आत्म-अभिमानी भव, और मुझ अपने बेहद के बाप याद करो, जो इस योग अग्नि वा याद द्वारा सिर पर विकर्मों का बोझा है जन्म-जन्मान्तर का, सो भस्म हो जायेगा। देह का अभिमान छोड़, अपने को आत्मा निश्चय कर, बेहद के बाप मुझ परमपिता को याद करो, तो तुम फिर से पवित्र सतोप्रधान बन जायेंगे।
“ The Children who are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of PrajaPita Brahma, and who are called Brahmins, are ‘Brothers’ among themselves, in the form of souls. They are then adopted through Brahma, and become Brothers & Sisters. Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (BKs) have to claim their inheritance from the Supreme Father Supreme Soul. ShivBaba says to His Children (souls): Now become soul-conscious, and Remember Me, your Unlimited Father. Then, through this Fire of Yoga, or this Remembrance, the burden of the sins of many births that are on your heads will be incinerated. Renounce the arrogance of the body, have the faith that You are a soul, and Remember Me, the Unlimited Supreme Father, and You will once again become pure and ‘satopradhan’. ”

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, (who is Brahma Baba), who claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous/Unworthy children, or FALSE Brahmins, are the FALSE ‘mouth-born’ progeny of THEIR FALSE ‘Prajapita Brahma’, (MASQUERADING as the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL PrajaPita Brahma), who claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya from the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


अब फिर पावन बनने लिए खास भारतवासी, पतित-पावन बाप को बहुत याद करते हैं क्योंकि मेरा अवतरण इस भाग्यशाली ब्रह्मा रथ में ही होता है। इस भाग्यशाली रथ का नाम तो और ही होता है, उनको अपना बनाता हूँ। इसमें प्रवेश कर, प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा नाम रख देता हूँ। कल्प पहले ड्रामा अनुसार प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा द्वारा ब्राह्मण रच, उन ब्रह्माकुमार/कुमारियों द्वारा पतित भारत को पावन भारत बनाया था, फिर भी जबकि कल्प की अन्त में पतित बन, आत्मा 84 का चक्र पूरा करती है, तो फिर वही पतित दुनिया को पावन करने आना पड़ता है। कल्प-कल्प अर्थात् हर 5 हजार वर्ष बाद, मुझ सर्व के परमपिता परमात्मा को याद करते हैं, भक्ति मार्ग में। और अन्त में जब भक्ति मार्ग पूरा होता है, तो आता हूँ।
“Now, in order to become pure, once again, the residents of Bharat, in particular, remember the Purifier Father a great deal, because My incarnation takes place ONLY in THIS Lucky Chariot of Brahma. The name of THIS Lucky Chariot is (initially) different, and I make him belong to Me. I enter in THIS one, and name him PrajaPita Brahma. According to Drama, I had created Brahmins THROUGH PrajaPita Brahma, in the previous Cycle, and made impure Bharat into pure Bharat, through those Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (BKs); then too, at the end of the Cycle, when souls complete the Cycle of 84 births and become impure (again), I have to come, once again, to purify this SAME impure World. Cycle after Cycle, means, after every 5000 years, on the ‘Path of Devotion’, they remember Me, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul of everyone. Then I come at the end, when the ‘Path of Devotion’ is completing.”

The Divine incarnation of Shiva takes place ONLY in the Lucky Chariot of Brahma Baba, as His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.

The term, ‘Cycle after Cycle’ (‘Kalpa-Kalpa’), means, ‘after EVERY 5000 years’, which is SEVERELY MANIPULATED by the Defamer Of God, to apply same ONLY to the Confluence Age – and who ALSO TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he is the Lucky Chariot (‘Bhagyashali Rath’) of Shiva!


बच्चों को सिद्ध कर बताया जा रहा है कि तुम इस समय सर्वोत्तम ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली ब्राह्मण कुल भूषण हो। दैवी कुल से यह उत्तम कुल है क्योंकि तुम ईश्वरीय कुल में हो। भारत 5 हजार वर्ष पहले स्वर्ग श्रेष्ठाचारी वैकुण्ठ दैवी स्वराज्य था, तब तुम सूर्यवंशी देवी-देवता थे, फिर क्षत्रिय, वैश्य, शूद्र वंश में आये। अब प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा द्वारा ब्राह्मण बने हो।
It is explained and proved to You Children that, at THIS TIME, You are the most ELEVATED ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, the decoration of the Brahmin clan. THIS clan is MORE ELEVATED than the Deity clan, because You NOW belong to God’s Clan. Five thousand years ago, Bharat was Heaven, elevated Paradise, with Deity Self-Sovereignty. At that time, you were Sun-Dynasty Deities, and You then went into the ‘kshatriya’, merchant and ‘Shudra’ clans. You have NOW become Brahmins THROUGH PrajaPita Brahma.”

The Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, explains and PROVES, to the Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), that they are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, (who is Brahma Baba), who are the DECORATION of the REAL Brahmin clan in Confluence Age, and who are EVEN more ELEVATED, when, they THEMSELVES, belong to the Deity clan in Golden Age, since they belong to God’s Clan, in Confluence Age!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that the Righteous Children are NOT the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, but the ‘womb-born’ progeny of Brahma Baba, since they Remember Shiva, by keeping the photo of Brahma Baba in front (according to them) - and that they are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma – but, who are, IN ACTUAL FACT, the ‘womb-born’ progeny of THEIR FALSE ‘PrajaPita Brahma’ – MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


वास्तव में प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा मनुष्य सृष्टि झाड़ का फाउन्डेशन है, जिसको कल्प वृक्ष कहा जाता है। गोया शिवबाबा, मनुष्य मात्र का बाबा, पिता है, और ब्रह्मा गैन्ड फादर है। मनुष्य सृष्टि झाड़, वा जीनालाजिकल ट्री, का पहला मनुष्य, आदम वा एडम वा प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा है। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा और मुख वंशावली, परमपिता मुझ परमात्मा शिव से सहज राजयोग और ज्ञान सीख, सुख घनेरे सोझरे में जाते हो। गाया भी जाता है, ‘ज्ञान सूर्य प्रगटा..’, ज्ञान सूर्य भी पतित-पावन परमपिता परमात्मा को ही कहा जाता है।
“ In fact, PrajaPita Brahma is the foundation of the human World Tree, which is also called the Kalpa Tree. So, ShivBaba is the Baba of all human beings. He is the Father, and Brahma is the grand-Father. The FIRST human being of the human World Tree, or the genealogical Tree, is ‘Aadam’, or Adam, or PrajaPita Brahma. PrajaPita Brahma and the ‘mouth-born’ progeny, go into extreme state of Happiness and enlightenment, through Me, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, by Studying easy RajYog and Knowledge. It is remembered: ‘When the Sun of Knowledge rises, the darkness of ignorance is dispelled..’, ONLY the Purifier, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, is called the ‘Sun of Knowledge’. ”

The FIRST human being of the human World Tree, or the genealogical Tree, is ‘Aadam’, or Adam, or REAL PrajaPita Brahma, who is Brahma Baba or the soul of DLR.
ONLY the Purifier, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, can be called the ‘Sun of Knowledge’!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that Brahma Baba is NOT REAL PrajaPita Brahma, but that he, himself, is the REAL ‘PrajaPita Brahma’, who is ALSO the ‘Sun of Knowledge’, while Brahma Baba is ONLY the ‘Moon of Knowledge’ – thus being instrumental to carry out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 19.09.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
आत्म-अभिमानी यहाँ परमपिता परमात्मा ही बनाते हैं, और कोई की ऐसी ताकत नहीं, जो ऐसे आत्म-अभिमानी बन बैठकर समझाये। भल कहते हैं हम ईश्वर हैं, फलाना हैं। परन्तु जानते कुछ भी नहीं!
“ONLY the Supreme Father Supreme Soul makes You soul-conscious here. No one else has the power to be soul-conscious and to sit here and explain to You. Although they say that they are God (‘Ishwar’), or that they are someone else, but they DO NOT know ANYTHING (in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE)!

ONLY the ONE Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, has the Spiritual Power & Potential to enable the Righteous Children to become soul-conscious, from being body-conscious, through the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & RajYog, through His ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance, ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.

ALTHOUGH the Defamer Of God, under the ACTIVE INFLUENCE of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he is ‘Ishwar’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Alpha’, etc., BUT he DOES NOT know, or understand, ANYTHING in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE – and CONTINUES to OPPOSE, DEFAME, INSULT & MOCK God, CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY, by continuously propagating the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – which leads him and his BLIND followers, ONLY towards DEGRADATION, DAMNATION & PERDITION!


मनुष्य तो जो सुनते, सब ‘सत-सत’ करते रहते हैं। असत्य बात को भी सत्य मान लेते हैं। बाप कहते हैं कि यह सभी असत्य बातें हैं। सत्य कोई भी है नहीं। किसको कहो तो बिगड़ पड़ते हैं। बाप कहते हैं कि युक्ति से काम लो। ...
दुनिया में ब्लाइन्ड-फेथ होने कारण जिसने जो सुनाया ‘सत-सत’ करते रहते हैं। समझते कुछ भी नहीं!
“People continue to say, ‘true, true’, to WHATEVER they hear. They believe something FALSE also to be true. The Father says: All of those things are UNTRUE. No one is true at all. If you tell them this, they become upset. Therefore, the Father says: Do everything tactfully. ...
Because there is BLIND-FAITH in the World, they continue to say, ‘true, true’, to whatever is told to them. They DO NOT understand ANYTHING at all (in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE)!

The BLIND Unrighteous children, who have been THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATED with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan – (MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – gradually DEVELOP ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects, WITHOUT EVEN BEING AWARE of same, and CONTINUE to say, ‘true, true’, to WHATEVER is told to them, by their EQUALLY BLIND bodily guru – and they BLINDLY CONTINUE to believe EVEN that which is FALSE to be true, since they are NOT ABLE to understand ANYTHING at all, in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE, owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects.
If ANY of the Righteous Children should tell them this DIRECTLY, they would become SEVERELY UPSET, and would be ready to EVEN ATTACK them, under the instigation of their BLIND bodily guru, hence the Righteous Children have been advised by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, that they should proceed TACTFULLY – and allow the BLIND Unrighteous children to come to their PROPER SENSES and REAL-EYEsation at their OWN time, in accordance with Drama Plan!

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Post by Golden Heart » 20 Sep 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 20.09.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
उन्हों की रसम-रिवाज ही रावण की है। तुम्हारी रसम-रिवाज है राम की। राम कोई वह त्रेता वाला नहीं। उसने गीता नहीं सुनाई थी।
“Their ‘customs and systems’ are those of Ravan, whereas your ‘customs and systems’ are those of RAMA. It is NOT the Rama of the Silver Age; he did NOT speak the Gita.”

The ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED ‘customs and systems’ of the BLIND Unrighteous children - who are THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATED by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan – (MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – are those of Ravan.

Whereas, the Pure UNADULTERATED ‘customs and systems’ of the Righteous Children - who Study the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & RajYog, from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – are those of INCORPOREAL RAMA, or Shiva - who speaks the TRUE Gita, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba - and who is NOT the CORPOREAL Sovereign Rama of the Silver Age!


बाबा समझाते रहते हैं। करेक्शन भी करते जाओ। ब्रह्माकुमार कुमारियों के आगे, ‘प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा’, जरूर लिखना चाहिए। ‘प्रजापिता’ कहने से, बाप सिद्ध हो जाता है। हम प्रश्न ही पूछते हैं कि प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा से क्या सम्बन्ध है? क्योंकि ‘ब्रह्मा’ नाम तो बहुतों के हैं। कोई फीमेल का नाम भी ‘ब्रह्मा’ है। ‘प्रजापिता’ नाम तो किसका होता नहीं, इसलिए ‘प्रजापिता’ अक्षर बहुत जरूरी है। प्रजापिता, आदि देव, कहते हैं। परन्तु ‘आदि देव’ का अर्थ नहीं समझते। प्रजापिता तो जरूर यहाँ ही होगा ना। आदि देव फिर वह ब्रह्मा (सूक्ष्म) हो जाता है। आदि अर्थात् शुरूआत का। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा को फिर बेटी है, सरस्वती। सूक्ष्मवतन में तो बेटी हो न सके। रचयिता तो यहाँ है ना। इन गुह्य बातों को, विशालबुद्धि वाले ही धारण कर सकते हैं।
“Baba continues to explain. You also HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MAKE CORRECTIONS. You DEFINITELY have to write, ‘PrajaPita Brahma’, in front of Brahma Kumars and Kumaris. By saying the word, ‘PrajaPita’, he is proved to be the Father. We ask the question: ‘What is your relationship with PrajaPita Brahma’? This is because many people have the name ‘Brahma’; even some females have the name ‘Brahma’. No one has the name ‘PrajaPita’, and this is why it is very essential to have the name ‘PrajaPita’. They speak of PrajaPita and Adi Dev, but they do not understand the meaning of ‘Adi Dev’. PrajaPita has to DEFINITELY be HERE. Adi Dev is then THAT Brahma (the SUBTLE one). Adi means the one from the beginning. PrajaPita Brahma's Daughter is Saraswati. He cannot have a Daughter in the Subtle Region. The Creator is here. Only those who have broad and unlimited intellects are able to imbibe these aspects.

The CONCERNED Righteous Children, who have been OFFICIALLY appointed by BapDada, to administer the Yagya, have been DULY AUTHORISED to MAKE the REQUIRED CHANGES & CORRECTIONS in the Murlis, spoken EARLIER by Shiva, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, based on the LATER, REFINED CLARIFICATIONS and UPGRADES, made by Shiva, in SUBSEQUENT Murlis, with the COLLECTIVE EVOLUTION of the Spiritual consciousness of the Righteous Children, within the Yagya.

One such example, is the subsequent directive given by Shiva, through Brahma Baba, to DEFINITELY write the words, ‘PrajaPita Brahma’, in front of Brahma Kumars and Kumaris – which is EXCLUSIVELY meant for the SOLE BENEFIT of ONLY the OUTSIDERS, who are STILL NOT in the Knowledge, and who STILL DO NOT have the CORRECT introduction of REAL ShivBaba, as the ‘Parlokik’ Father or ParamPita, and Brahma Baba, as the ‘Alokik’ Father or PrajaPita (besides ALSO being the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or JagadAmba). Since the Righteous Children are ALREADY AWARE of their ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, as ParamPita & their ‘Alokik’ Father, Brahma Baba, as PrajaPita, they THEMSELVES, DO NOT require to prefix their personal designation, as BKs, with ‘PrajaPita’ – which is meant SOLELY for the BENEFIT of the OUTSIDERS, who could be CONFUSED, or CONFOUNDED, if ONLY the name, ‘Brahma’, was used – EITHER on the public boards outside the BK Centers, or when giving them the introduction of REAL ShivBaba & Brahma Baba – since many individuals, including females, have the name, ‘Brahma’, but not the name ‘PrajaPita’.
Brahma Baba, as PrajaPita, has to DEFINITELY be HERE, on this corporeal sphere, in his impure corporeal body, UNTIL 1969 - after which he achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’, or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE, and becomes Avyakt - AFTER which he is referred, more aptly, as Adi Dev.

For further clarifications, view the same relevant Version of this same SM, revised earlier on 06.09.2007, in post dated 10 Mar 15, in link below -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1217&p=48537&hilit ... ons#p48537


पहले तो बाप और बच्चे का सम्बन्ध बुद्धि में बिठाना चाहिए। वह तो है बेहद का बाप। अब ब्रह्मा कहाँ से आता है? बाप आकर इनको एडाप्ट करते हैं, अर्थात् इसमें प्रवेश करते हैं। तुम्हारी एडाप्शन अलग है, इनकी अलग है। बाप इसमें प्रवेश करते हैं। बाप कहते हैं, यह मेरी स्त्री है, मैंने एडाप्ट किया है। मैं इनमें प्रवेश हो कहता हूँ - तुम हमारी मुख वंशावली हो। मैंने तुमको ब्रह्मा मुख से रचा है। मुझे तो अपना मुख है नहीं। शिव कैसे कहेंगे - मेरी मुख वंशावली। कितना अच्छी रीति समझाया जाता है। बाप कहते हैं, तुम सब आत्मायें मेरे बच्चे हो। भाई-बहन हो। बुद्धि में यह आना चाहिए।
“First of all, make the relationship of the Father and Child sit in their intellects. He is the Unlimited Father. Now, where does Brahma come from? The Father comes and ADOPTS him, that is, He ENTERS THIS one. Your adoption is SEPARATE, and his is SEPARATE. The Father ENTERS THIS one. The Father says: THIS one is My Wife. I have ADOPTED him. I ENTER him and tell You: You are My ‘mouth-born’ creation. I have created You through the Mouth of Brahma. I do not have a mouth of My own. How would Shiva say: You are My ‘mouth-born’ creation? It is explained to You so well. The Father says: All of You souls are My Children; You are Brothers and Sisters. This should enter your intellects.”

There is a CLEAR DIFFERENCE between the Spiritual adoption of Brahma Baba, and the Spiritual adoption of ALL the OTHER Righteous Children, including Saraswati Mama. Brahma Baba is ADOPTED by Shiva - by ENTERING his corporeal body - as, BOTH, His Spiritual Wife, AS WELL AS, His VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Spiritual Child, Spiritually re-born through the Lotus Mouth of the impure corporeal body of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF – WITHOUT the INVOLVEMENT of ANY OTHER embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere! While ALL the OTHER Righteous Children, including Saraswati Mama, are THEN Spiritually re-born through the Lotus Mouth of the impure corporeal body of Brahma Baba, UNTIL 1969; and through the ELEVATED Intellectual Orifice of the SUBTLE form of Brahma Baba, AFTER 1969, UNTIL the end of Confluence Age, having the FULL and COMPLETE AWARENESS that the VERY SAME soul of Brahma Baba has ALREADY completed his SPECIFIC role as PrajaPita, through his impure corporeal body in 1969, and is currently ACTIVELY involved in enacting his SPECIFIC role as Adi Dev, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body - to enable the Righteous Children also to develop their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, to be able to READILY interact with BapDada, in Avyakt – at ANY TIME, from ANY PLACE, and to ANY DESIRED EXTENT!
Strictly speaking, the Righteous Children cannot be regarded as the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Shiva, since Shiva DOES NOT have a ‘mouth’ of His own; and therefore, since Shiva uses the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, in order to Spiritually adopt the Righteous Children, they are, more aptly, regarded as the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma.


बाप कहते हैं अविनाशी ज्ञान रत्नों का दान करो। एक दो को तुम पत्थर मारते-मारते, एकदम पत्थरबुद्धि बन पड़े हो। अब तुम्हारी बुद्धि लोहा से सोना जैसी बन रही है। फिर तुम पत्थर क्यों मारते हो? अगर कोई उल्टी बातें सुनाये, तो समझो यह हमारा दुश्मन है। ऐसे का संग कभी नहीं करना, न सुनना। ...
बाबा हमेशा समझाते हैं कि ज्ञान रत्न दान करते रहो। बाबा जो सुनाते हैं, वह औरों को सुनाओ। ... बाप काँटों से फूल बनाने आये हैं, तो बच्चों का भी यही धन्धा है। बाप यह धन्धा सिखलाते हैं। तो यह मनुष्य को देवता, काँटों को फूल बनाने की फैक्ट्री हुई ना।
“The Father says: Donate the imperishable Jewels of Knowledge. By continuing to throw stones at one another your intellects have become completely like stone. Your intellects are now becoming like gold from iron. So, why then do you throw stones? If anyone tells you wrong things, consider that person to be your enemy. Never keep the company of, or listen to, such ones. ... Baba always explains: Continue to donate the Jewels of Knowledge. Tell others what Baba tells You. ... The Father has come to change You from Thorns into Flowers, and so this is also the Business of You Children. The Father is TEACHING You this Business. Therefore, this is a factory for changing human beings into Deities, or Thorns into Flowers.”

The BLIND Unrighteous children CONTINUE to throw STONES, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, as a result of which their intellects become ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, INVERTED, and COMPLETELY like STONE!

The Righteous Children, who are FULLY AWARE that the BLIND Unrighteous children are TOTALLY INVOLVED in ONLY telling WRONG things, FALSE aspects, and BLATANT LIESin the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – should consider the BLIND Unrighteous children to be their enemy, and should NEVER keep their PERVERTED company, or EVEN listen to them!
The Righteous Children should ONLY INVOLVE themselves in donating the Pure Jewels of UNADULTERATED Knowledge, and tell others, ONLY that which REAL ShivBaba has told them, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – since they TOO are involved in changing ORDINARY human beings into ELEVATED Deities, or Thorns into Flowers, ALONG WITH REAL BapDada.


रावण की मशीनरी है, पावन को पतित बनाना। राम की मशीनरी है, पतितों को पावन बनाना। मुख्य है ही योग।
“Ravan’s missionary is to make pure ones impure; whereas RAMA's missionary is to make impure ones pure. The main aspect is Yoga.”

The mission of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, in Confluence Age, is to make pure ones impure, or impure ones more impure, through the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

Whereas, the Mission of the Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is INCORPOREAL RAMA, is to make impure ones pure, THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.
The MAIN aspect is to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, as the Supreme Soul – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering the Self, also as a soul – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy!
THAT’s ALL!!!


तुम जानते हो शिवबाबा हमारा टीचर भी है, सतगुरू भी है। सतगुरू तो एक ही है। ब्रह्मा का भी वह गुरू हो गया। विष्णु का गुरू नहीं कहेंगे। ब्रह्मा का गुरू बन, उनको विष्णु देवता बनाया है। शंकर का भी गुरू कैसे हो सकता? शंकर तो पतित बनता ही नहीं। उनको गुरू की क्या दरकार है? ब्रह्मा तो 84 जन्म लेते हैं। विष्णु वा शंकर के 84 जन्म नहीं कहेंगे। कितनी अच्छी धारण करने और कराने की बातें हैं। जो धारण करते और कराते हैं, वही ऊंच पद पाते हैं।
“You know that ShivBaba is also your Teacher, and also your Satguru. There is ONLY ONE Satguru. He is also the Guru of Brahma. He would not be called the Guru of Vishnu. He became the Guru of Brahma, and made him into the Deity Vishnu. How could He be the Guru of Shankar? Shankar does not become impure at all. He has no need of a guru. Brahma takes 84 births. You cannot say that there are 84 births of Vishnu or Shankar. These are such good aspects to imbibe, and to inspire others to imbibe. Only those who imbibe them, and enable others to imbibe them, can achieve a high status.”

ONLY REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is the TRUE ‘Parlokik’ Father, TRUE ‘Parlokik’ TEACHER, and TRUE ‘Parlokik’ Guru, or Satguru, of the Righteous Children - and ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba. Shiva is the Guru of Brahma, and CANNOT be called the Guru of Vishnu, or Guru of Shankar. Shankar DOES NOT come to this corporeal sphere to enact ANY corporeal role, through ANY corporeal body, like Shiva does; and since Shankar DOES NOT come into the cycle of birth & re-birth, on this corporeal sphere, there is NO QUESTION of him becoming impure, and hence there is NO QUESTION of him needing ANY Guru! ONLY Brahma Baba takes the FULL and COMPLETE 84 births, from the VERY beginning of Golden Age, UNTIL the VERY END of Iron Age – CONTINUING his LAST birth in the Cycle, through his subtle body, AFTER he achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’, or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE, in 1969, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age.
Although Brahma Baba, HIMSELF, becomes the Pure Deity Vishnu, ALONG WITH his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama - one CANNOT say that there are 84 births for Vishnu or Shankar, since BOTH of them are ONLY SYMBOLIC representations, residing in the Subtle Regions, during Confluence Age - of the PRACTICAL ACTS of Shiva – who enacts the role of Shankar, through the SUBTLE forms of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama - as ‘KaranKaravanhar’ - more specifically, AFTER 1969, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age; and the role of Vishnu, through the PURE corporeal bodies of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama, as the VERY FIRST, HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, Lakshmi & Narayan of Golden Age - as ‘Karavanhar’ - IN ABSENTIA - in the New World of RamRajya!
These are such good aspects to imbibe, and to inspire others to imbibe. Only those who imbibe them, and enable others to imbibe them, can achieve a high status. However, a VERY DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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