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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVISI

Post by arjun » 09 Apr 2015

golden heart wrote:These ASPECTS have ALREADY been CLARIFIED in various posts in this thread earlier, as also in above post, copied herein again
Dear golden heart, your angry outburst at my practical proof of who is taking whom on ride was on expected lines. It was natural that you cannot think anything new suddenly so you pasted the same old matter containing the filthiest abuses against us PBKs.

Thanks for remembering Baba Virendra Dev Dixit and PBKs so much. :D

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The REAL meaning of 'Manmanabhav' !

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Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
BKWSU Rev SM dated 09.04.2015 wrote: अभी हमको परमपिता परमात्मा ने शूद्र से ब्राह्मण बनाया है। कल्प-कल्प, कल्प के संगमयुगे हम ब्राह्मण बनते हैं। ब्राह्मणों को पुरूषोत्तम नहीं कहेंगे। पुरूषोत्तम तो देवताओं को कहेंगे। ब्राह्मण यहाँ पुरूषार्थ करते हैं पुरूषोत्तम बनने के लिए। पतित से पावन बनने लिए ही बाप को बुलाते हैं। तो अपने से पूछना चाहिए हम पावन कहाँ तक बन रहे हैं? स्टूडेन्ट भी पढ़ाई के लिए विचार सागर मंथन करते हैं ना। समझते हैं इस पढ़ाई से हम यह बनेंगे। तुम बच्चों की बुद्धि में है कि अभी हम ब्राह्मण बने हैं देवता बनने के लिए। यह है अमूल्य जीवन क्योंकि तुम ईश्वरीय सन्तान हो। ईश्वर तुमको राजयोग सिखला रहे हैं, पतित से पावन बना रहे हैं। पावन देवता बनते हैं।
The Supreme Father Supreme Soul (S S S), has NOW changed us from Shudras into Brahmins. (through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). We become Brahmins at the confluence of every Cycle. Brahmins are not called the most elevated beings. Only the deities are called the most elevated beings. Brahmins ARE MAKING EFFORT HERE (through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, the ‘mukrar-rath’ of S S S) to become the most elevated beings (DEITIES). It is in order to be changed from impure to pure that people call out to the Father (S S S). Therefore, you should ask yourself: To what extent am I becoming pure? Students also churn their studies. They understand what they will become through their study. It is in the intellects of You Children that You have NOW become Brahmins IN ORDER TO BECOME DEITIES. This is your most valuable life because you are God’s Children. God is TEACHING You Raja Yoga: He is changing You from impure to pure. YOU ARE BECOMING PURE DEITIES (through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, the ‘mukrar-rath’ of S S S – first in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, then in ‘Akar’ to date) !!!

बाप आकर तुम बच्चों को किचड़े से निकाल अपना बनाते हैं। परन्तु किचड़े के रहने वाले ऐसे हिरे हुए हैं, जो निकालते हैं फिर भी किचड़ा ही अच्छा लगता है।
The Father comes to remove you from the ‘GARBAGE’ and make you belong to Him. However, those who have been living in the ‘GARBAGE’ (of Ravan’s CORRUPTED, ADULTERATED, DISTORTED, POLLUTED, REVERTED & INVERTED knowledge, propagated through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, V D D) have become so used to it (the MOST LETHAL DRUG of 'Bhakti'), that even when they are taken out of it, they (the 'DRUG-ADDICTS' - most PBKs, in particular) STILL PREFER the ‘GARBAGE’!

शुद्र से ब्राह्मण बने हैं फिर देवता बनेंगे।
You have now become Brahmins from Shudras and and then you will become Deities. (through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, the ‘mukrar-rath’ of S S S – first in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, then in ‘Akar’ to date) !!!

हम अभी शूद्र से ब्राह्मण बने हैं। अहो सौभाग्य। फिर देवता बनेंगे। यह संगमयुग बहुत कल्याणकारी है। तुम्हारी हर बात में कल्याण भरा हुआ है।
You have NOW become Brahmins from Shudras. This is great fortune for You. Then You will become Deities. (through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, the ‘mukrar-rath’ of S S S – first in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, then in ‘Akar’ to date) !!! This Confluence Age is very benevolent. There is benefit for You IN EVERY ASPECT.

एक है निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा। दूसरा फिर प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा भी गाया हुआ है। यह सब उनके बच्चे हैं, दादा है शिवबाबा। वर्सा उनसे मिलता है। वह राय देते हैं मुझे याद करो तो तुम पतित से पावन बन जायेंगे। कल्प पहले भी ऐसी राय दी थी। कितनी ऊंची पढ़ाई है। यह भी तुम्हारी बुद्धि में है हम बाप से वर्सा ले रहे हैं। तुम बच्चे मनुष्य से देवता बनने की पढ़ाई पढ़ रहे हो।
ONE is the INCORPOREAL Supreme Father Supreme Soul (S S S), and the OTHER ONE is remembered as Prajapita Brahma (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). ALL OF THESE HERE (in front of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani & S S S) are His (BadDada’s) Children. Shiv Baba is ‘Dada’ (Grandfather – ‘d’ pronounced as in ‘day’). We (principal rulers of G A and S A) receive our inheritance from Him (S S S ONLY – and ONLY through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). He gives this advice: Remember Me and you will become pure from impure. He gave the same advice in the previous Cycle too. This is such an elevated study. Your intellects understand that You are receiving your inheritance from your Father. You Children (principal rulers of G A and S A) are studying the study to change from humans into Deities. (through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, the ‘mukrar-rath’ of S S S – first in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, then in ‘Akar’ to date) !!!

मुख्य बात है याद की। याद से ही तुम पावन बनते हो। यह लक्ष्मी-नारायण नम्बरवन पावन हैं ना। मम्मा कितनी सर्विस करती थी। ऐसा तो कोई कह न सके हम मम्मा से भी होशियार हैं। मम्मा ज्ञान में सबसे तीखी थी।
The MAIN THING is remembrance. It is by having remembrance that you can become pure. (First pair) Lakshmi and Narayan (of G A – BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani & Om Radhe) are NUMBER ONE pure ones. Mama (Om Radhe) did so much service! NONE OF YOU CAN CLAIM TO BE CLEVERER THAN Mama (Om Radhe). Mama (Om Radhe) WAS THE 'CLEVEREST' OF ALL IN KNOWLEDGE !
( Om Radhe is the TRUE ‘GODDESS OF KNOWLEDGE’ - 'Saraswati' - 'Miss UNIVERSE'; and along with her ‘Soul-Mate’ or ‘Yugal-Dana’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani – the TRUE ‘JAGADAMBA’ of the ENTIRE CYCLE !
Whereas, the FALSE ‘Jagadamba’ (of Ravan Rajya) is KDD-S - only 'Miss World' - as claimed by the PBKs - who HAS DECEIVED THEM and gone back into ‘VAISHALAYA’ or ‘BROTHEL’ - back into ‘PROSTITUTION’ and ‘WHOREDOM’ of Ravan Rajya !!! )

कोई भी गीतापाठी मनमनाभव का अर्थ नहीं जानते हैं। तुम बच्चे जानते हो-भगवानुवाच, देह के सभी सम्बन्ध छोड़ अपने को आत्मा समझो। किसने कहा? कृष्ण भगवान थोड़ेही है। कोई फिर कहते हम तो शास्त्रों को ही मानते हैं। भल भगवान आये तो भी नहीं मानेंगे। बरोबर शास्त्र पढ़ते रहते हैं। भगवान आये हैं राजयोग सिखला रहे हैं, स्थापना हो रही है,यह शास्त्र आदि सब हैं ही भक्तिमार्ग के। भगवान का निश्चय हो तो वर्सा लेने लग पड़े, फिर भक्ति भी उड़ जाए। परन्तु जब निश्चय हो ना।
No one who studies the (False) Gita knows the real meaning of “Manmanabhav”. You Children know it. God speaks: RENOUNCE ALL BODILY RELATIONS and CONSIDER YOURSELF TO BE A SOUL. Who said this? Krishna (soul of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) is not God. Some (like most ‘maha-murkh’ PBKs, in particular) say that they only believe in the scriptures (randomly selected versions of SMs and AVs, ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED by Ravan - craftily, clandestinely and deviously - through Ravan’s ‘mukrar-rath’, V D D, in the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age). Even when God comes (through His 'mukrar-rath', BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) they STILL DO NOT BELIEVE Him (S S S)! They continue to study the scriptures 'accurately' (randomly selected versions of SMs and AVs, ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED by Ravan - craftily, clandestinely and deviously - through Ravan’s ‘mukrar-rath’, V D D). God has come and is teaching Raja Yoga (through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, the ‘mukrar-rath’ of S S S – first in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, then in ‘Akar’ to date) !!! Establishment is NOW being carried out. All of those scriptures, etc., (randomly selected versions of SMs and AVs, ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED by Ravan - craftily, clandestinely and deviously - through Ravan’s ‘mukrar-rath’, V D D), belong to the ‘path of devotion’ (‘shooting’ of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age). IF THEY (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his gullible followers) HAD FAITH that this is God (S S S - SPEAKING through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, the ‘mukrar-rath’ of S S S – first in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, then in ‘Akar’ to date), they (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his gullible followers) would start to claim their inheritance. Then, even devotion would fly away. However, THIS CAN ONLY BE POSSIBLE when they (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his gullible followers) have this faith !!!
THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

With Eternal, Infinite, Imperishable Divine LOVE . . . In Loveful Remembrance of Supreme Soul Shiv,
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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVISI

Post by arjun » 10 Apr 2015

NONE OF YOU CAN CLAIM TO BE CLEVERER THAN Mama (Om Radhe). Mama (Om Radhe) WAS THE 'CLEVEREST' OF ALL IN KNOWLEDGE !
Comparison can only be made with those who are alive in the Confluence Age at the time of Revelation of God. When it has already been declared by ShivBaba in the Murlis that these Brahma and Saraswati are not the real Mama and Baba, then there is no question of Mama being the cleverest. Perhaps she was the cleverest among the BKs present before 1965, but the studies are still going on, the final exam has not yet taken place. So, it cannot be announced beforehand that Om Radhey Saraswati was the cleverest.

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S S S ALONE is the TRUE AUTHORITY of PURE Knowledge !

Post by Golden Heart » 10 Apr 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
BKWSU Rev SM dated 10.04.2015 wrote: इस समय सभी मनुष्य आत्मायें नास्तिक हैं, इसलिए ही हंगामें हैं। धणी को न जानने के कारण आपस में लड़ते- झगड़ते रहते हैं। रचयिता और रचना को जानने वाले को आस्तिक कहा जाता है।
At present, all humans (most PBKs, in particular) are ‘atheists’. This is why there is so much ‘chaos’. Because they (most PBKs, in particular) do not know ('REcognize' & 'REAL-EYEs') their (TRUE) Lord and Master (S S S), they continue to ‘fight and battle’ amongst themselves. Those who know the Creator (S S S – ‘Alaf’ – ‘Allah’) and the (Principal) creation (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani & Om Radhe – TRUE Adi Dev & Adi Devi) are called theists.
( Since there is ‘subdued’ WRATH inherent within their governing ‘sanskars’, most PBKs, in particular, ‘impulsively’ and ‘compulsively’ believe that ANYONE who tries to CLARIFY the REAL TRUTH in the Pure Versions of S S S is motivated by ‘anger, hatred, jealousy, revenge, vengeance’, etc. - since the PURE CLARIFICATIONS CLEARLY CONTRADICT their CORRUPTED IDEOLOGY - which they are unable to TOLERATE – and which ‘APPEARS’ to them as ‘MORE POWERFUL THAN A THOUSAND SUNS’! As a result of this, and owing to their ‘OCD’, they cannot restrain themselves from spontaneously REFUTING any such PURE CLARIFICATIONS, regardless of their VERACITY! They are TOTALLY IGNORANT of the FACT that their inherent ‘subdued’ WRATH, on a ‘seed’ level, is DIRECTLY responsible for ‘disturbances’ in the BK Org, on a ‘subtle’ level, and the ‘warfare’ which is currently PROGRESSIVELY escalating in the outer World, on a ‘gross’ level !!! )

अभी तो अनेक धर्म, अनेक मनुष्य हैं। लड़ते- झगड़ते रहते हैं।
There are now many religions (many IDEOLOGIES – in the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age) and so many people (with DIFFERING INTERPRETATIONS); they continue to fight and quarrel!

बाप एक ही बार आकर यह नॉलेज समझाते हैं। तमोप्रधान से सतोप्रधान बनाते हैं। मातायें बैठ उनको समझायेंगी तो खुश होंगे। बोलो ज्ञान सागर बाप ने ज्ञान का कलष हम माताओं को दिया है जो हम फिर औरों को देते हैं। बहुत नम्रता से बोलते रहना है। शिव ही ज्ञान का सागर है जो हमको ज्ञान सुनाते हैं। कहते हैं मैं तुम माताओं द्वारा मुक्ति- जीवनमुक्ति के गेट्स खोलता हूँ, और कोई खोल न सके। हम अभी परमात्मा द्वारा पढ़ रहे हैं। हमको कोई मनुष्य नहीं पढ़ाते हैं। ज्ञान का सागर एक ही परमपिता परमात्मा है। तुम सब भक्ति के सागर हो। भक्ति की अथॉरिटी हो, न कि ज्ञान की। ज्ञान की अथॉरिटी एक मैं ही हूँ। महिमा भी एक की करते हैं। वही ऊंच ते ऊंच है। हम उनको ही मानते हैं। वह हमको ब्रह्मा तन से पढ़ाते हैं इसलिये ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियां गाये हुए हैं।
The Father (S S S) ONLY COMES ONCE to explain this Knowledge to You (principal rulers of G A and S A – through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). He makes You satopradhan from tamopradhan. If you ‘Mothers’ sit with others and explain to them they can become happy. Tell them: The Father (S S S), the Ocean of Knowledge, has given the urn of nectar to us ‘Mothers’. We then give it to others. Continue to speak with a lot of humility. Only Shiva is the Ocean of Knowledge and He gives that Knowledge to US. He says: I open the gates of liberation and 'liberation in life' through YOU MOTHERS (SPECIAL TASK FORCE – Om Radhe, along with 108 ShivShaktis)! NO ONE ELSE CAN OPEN THEM! We are all STUDYING with the Supreme Soul ((S S S - SPEAKING through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani – first in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, then in ‘Akar’ to date). It is not a human being TEACHING US. Only the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, is the Ocean of Knowledge. All of you (V D D and most PBKs, in particular) are oceans of (the POISON of) ‘devotion’. You (V D D and most PBKs, in particular) are ‘authorities of devotion’, NOT (PURE) KNOWLEDGE!
I (S S S) alone am the Authority of (Pure) Knowledge. People sing the praise of the One ALONE. He (S S S) ALONE is the Highest on High. We ONLY believe in Him (S S S). It is because He (S S S) TEACHES US through the body of Brahma (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) that the Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs) are praised.
THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVISI

Post by arjun » 11 Apr 2015

golden heart wrote:( Since there is ‘subdued’ WRATH inherent within their governing ‘sanskars’, most PBKs, in particular, ‘impulsively’ and ‘compulsively’ believe that ANYONE who tries to CLARIFY the REAL TRUTH in the Pure Versions of S S S is motivated by ‘anger, hatred, jealousy, revenge, vengeance’, etc. - since the PURE CLARIFICATIONS CLEARLY CONTRADICT their CORRUPTED IDEOLOGY - which they are unable to TOLERATE – and which ‘APPEARS’ to them as ‘MORE POWERFUL THAN A THOUSAND SUNS’! As a result of this, and owing to their ‘OCD’, they cannot restrain themselves from spontaneously REFUTING any such PURE CLARIFICATIONS, regardless of their VERACITY! They are TOTALLY IGNORANT of the FACT that their inherent ‘subdued’ WRATH, on a ‘seed’ level, is DIRECTLY responsible for ‘disturbances’ in the BK Org, on a ‘subtle’ level, and the ‘warfare’ which is currently PROGRESSIVELY escalating in the outer World, on a ‘gross’ level !!! )
Everyone here is seeing with their own eyes as to who is displaying anger and who is calm, who is displaying his anger by using filthy abuses, different colours and sizes of words and who is using normal words.
golden heart wrote: All of you (V D D and most PBKs, in particular) are oceans of (the POISON of) ‘devotion’. You (V D D and most PBKs, in particular) are ‘authorities of devotion’, NOT (PURE) KNOWLEDGE!
Oh! I was under the wrong impression that we PBKs were on the path of knowledge and BKs were on the path of subtle Bhakti ;-)

The BKs shown below in the picture are definitely following the highest path of knowledge by decorating and worshipping their gurus, aren't they dear golden heart? :D
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Post by Golden Heart » 11 Apr 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
BKWSU Rev SM dated 11.04.2015 wrote: अभी तो वह यहाँ इस शरीर में आये हैं। जो निराकार था वह अब साकार में आ गया है। वह बैठ बच्चों को सिखलाते हैं। दुनिया नहीं जानती कि वह क्या सिखलाते हैं। वह तो गीता का भगवान कृष्ण समझते हैं। कह देते हैं - वह राजयोग सिखलाते हैं।
Baba (S S S) has NOW entered THIS body (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). The incorporeal One (S S S) has entered this corporeal one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). He sits here (in the corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, prior 1969) and TEACHES You Children (principal rulers of G A and S A). No one in the world knows what He TEACHES (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his gullible followers claim and ‘DELUSIVELY BELIEVE’ that S S S does not TEACH through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). They (ERRONEOUSLY) think that Krishna is the God of the Gita and 'SAY' that he teaches Raja Yoga (this ERRONEOUS belief, in Ravan Rajya of the outer World, has been initiated MAINLY by ‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his gullible followers, in the ‘seed’ form - in the 'shooting' period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age - who claim that ONLY the soul of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani or Krishna of G A delivers the AVs through DG).

याद से ही पाप कटते हैं। बहुत बुद्धू हैं जो याद में न रहने कारण फिर नाम-रूप आदि में फँस पड़ते हैं।
Only by having (ACURATE) remembrance can your sins be cut away. There are many IDIOTS (like most PBKs, in particular) who become trapped in the names and forms of others (mainly their bodily ‘guru’, V D D) because they don't stay in (ACCURATE) remembrance (of ONE INCORPOREAL Father ALONE)!

मनुष्य होकर और बाप को न जानें तो जानवर से भी बदतर हुआ। गीता में कृष्ण का नाम डाल दिया है तो बाप को याद कैसे करें! यही बड़ी भूल है, जो तुमको समझानी है। गीता का भगवान शिवबाबा है, वही वर्सा देते हैं।
If, as human beings, you don't know the Father (S S S – ACCURATELY), you (V D D and most PBKs, in particular) are WORSE THAN ANIMALS! (G A) Krishna’s name was inserted in the Gita. (an ERROR within Ravan Rajya, initiated MAINLY by ‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his gullible followers, in the ‘seed’ form, in the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age, who claim that ONLY the soul of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani or Krishna of G A delivers the AVs through DG)! So, how can they (V D D and his gullible followers) remember the Father (S S S – ACCURATELY)? THIS IS THE GREATEST MISTAKE (that ONLY the soul of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani or Krishna of G A delivers the AVs through DG - made by V D D and his gullible followers, thus DIVORCING themselves from S S S - due to which the ERROR is reflected in the outer World of Ravan Rajya, thus DIVORCING EVERYONE from GOD) and You (principal rulers of G A and S A) have to explain it (to ‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his gullible followers – BEFORE THE FINAL CURTAIN – so that they may not 'COMPLAIN' to S S S at the end that they were not FORE-WARNED !!!) ShivBaba (S S S) is the God of the (TRUE) Gita. He ALONE is the One who gives You (principal rulers of G A and S A) your inheritance (ONLY through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani)!

यह है ही मुर्दों की दुनिया। सभी मरे पड़े हैं। तुम बाप के बने हो तो बाप का फरमान है- मुझे याद करो तो विकर्म विनाश हो जाएं।
This is the world of corpses (ZOMBIES – like V D D and his gullible followers, in particular); everyone (V D D and his gullible followers, in particular) is ALREADY DEAD (ZOMBIES)! You (principal rulers of G A and S A) belong to the (TRUE) Father (S S S). Therefore, the Father's order is: Remember Me (ALONE) and your sins will be absolved.

भगवान हमको पढ़ाते हैं, यह भूलना क्यों चाहिए।
God is TEACHING You (principal rulers of G A and S A - through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). Why should you forget this?
(‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his gullible followers claim and ‘DELUSIVELY BELIEVE’ that S S S does not TEACH through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, since THEY DO NOT RECEIVE the INHERITANCE of RAMRAJYA from REAL ‘RAMA’ – S S S; BUT ONLY RECEIVE the INHERITANCE of Ravan Rajya from ‘APPARENT, FALSE or IMPOSTER’ ‘Rama’ – V D D, the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan) !

यह शरीर तो पलीत है, उनको तुम याद क्यों करते हो। बाप कहते हैं मुझे याद करो तो सदैव खुशी रहे।
Everyone’s body is impure (including the body of V D D). Why do you (most PBKs, in particular) remember it (make USELESS ENDEAVOURS to remember S S S in the impure body of V D D)? The Father says: Remember Me (ALONE) and you will remain constantly happy.

अन्तकाल जो अल़फ को सिमरे और फिर नारायण को सिमरे। बाप और नारायण (वर्सा) ही याद करना है।
At the final moment, there should only be remembrance of Alpha (‘Alaf’ - S S S) and remembrance (awareness) of (Beta – ‘Bey’) Narayan (inheritance). Only remember the Father (S S S) and (be aware of) Narayan (inheritance).
[ONLY remember and 'be aware of ': ‘Alaf and Bey’; ‘Alpha and Beta’; the Father (S S S) and the Inheritance; the TRUE CREATOR (S S S) and the principal Creation (Narayan – BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) - or ‘BapDada’]!

तुमको तो सिर्फ आत्मा समझ परमात्मा बाप को याद करना है। विचित्र बन विचित्र बाप को याद करना है। यह मेहनत है। विश्व का मालिक बनना, कोई मासी का घर नहीं है।
You simply have to consider yourself to be a soul and remember God, the Father. Become one without an image ('BODILESS') and remember the Father who is without an image (WITHOUT A BODY). This takes effort. To become a Master of the World is not like going to your aunty's home!
(How can one succeed in remembering the TRUE Father, S S S who is without an ‘image’, if one tries to remember him inside an ‘image’? – as advocated by the ‘maha-murkh’, ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, V D D, and BLINDLY ‘lapped’ by his gullible followers)?
THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVISI

Post by arjun » 12 Apr 2015

golden heart wrote:(an ERROR within Ravan Rajya, initiated MAINLY by ‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his gullible followers, in the ‘seed’ form, in the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age, who claim that ONLY the soul of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani or Krishna of G A delivers the AVs through DG)!
In the outside world majority of the people believe that Krishna (Lekhraj Kirpalani) is the God of Gita. But if you compare the BKs and the PBKs, the BKs are in majority and the PBKs are in minority. It is the majority BKs who committed the mistake of inserting the word 'Pitashri' (meant for Lekhraj Kirpalani) before 'ShivBaba Yaad hai?' which tantamounts to asking 'Do you remember Pitashri ShivBaba?' or giving more importance to Pitashri (Lekhraj Kirpalani) than ShivBaba. Moreover, it is the BKs who display the photos of Lekhraj Kirpalani all over the campuses all over the world and not the PBKs. PBKs display neither the picture of Lekhraj Kirpalani nor Baba Virendra Dev Dixit. So, nobody will believe you golden heart if you say that PBKs are doing the shooting of making Krishna as the God of Gita.
(How can one succeed in remembering the TRUE Father, S S S who is without an ‘image’, if one tries to remember him inside an ‘image’? – as advocated by the ‘maha-murkh’, ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, V D D, and BLINDLY ‘lapped’ by his gullible followers)?
If this was the case, why do BKs display the following picture everywhere?
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If they don't need any image to remember Shiva, the point of light, why do they display Brahma Baba's picture everywhere and why do they unnecessarily decorate their bodily gurus including Dadi Gulzar as shown above?

The above picture also proves beyond any doubt as to who is performing the shooting/rehearsal of making Krishna (soul of Lekhraj Kirpalani) as the God of Gita.

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Brahma Kumars-Kumaris versus Ravan Kumars-Kumaris !

Post by Golden Heart » 12 Apr 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
PBKIVV Rev SM dated 12.03.2015 wrote: रूहानी बाप बैठ रूहानी बच्चों को समझाते हैं। यह तो बच्चे समझ गये रूहानी बाप है निराकार, इस शरीर द्वारा बैठ समझाते हैं, हम आत्मा भी निराकार हैं, इस शरीर से सुनते हैं। तो अब दो बाप इकट्ठे हैं ना। बच्चे जानते हैं दोनों बाबा यहाँ हैं। तीसरे बाप को जानते हो परन्तु उनसे फिर भी यह अच्छा है, इनसे फिर वह अच्छा, नम्बरवार हैं ना। तो उस लौकिक से सम्बन्ध निकल बाकी इन दोनों से सम्बन्ध हो जाता है।
The spiritual Father (S S S) sits HERE (in His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, prior 1969) and explains to You spiritual Children (principal rulers of G A and S A). You Children understand that the spiritual Father (S S S) is incorporeal and that He is explaining to us through THIS body (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). I, the soul, am also incorporeal and I listen through this body (body of the individual soul). The TWO FATHERS (S S S & BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) are NOW together. You Children know that BOTH THE FATHERS ARE HERE. You also know the third 'Father' (worldly 'Father' of individual soul). However, this one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) is better than that one (worldly 'Father'), but the other One (S S S) is the best. They are number-wise. Therefore, you have moved away from the relationship of your worldly 'Father' (of the body) and NOW have a relationship with these TWO FATHERS (S S S & BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani).
(In CONTRAST, the Ravan Kumars & Ravan Kumaris – most PBKs, in particular, MASQUERADING as PBKs – have a relationship with THEIR two ‘fathers’ – ‘Ravan’ & V D D - MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’ & ‘Prajapita Brahma’, in the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age, since they receive the inheritance of Ravan Rajya through V D D, the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan!)

अब तुम बच्चे यह तो समझते हो कि जिसने बहुत भक्ति की होगी शुरू से लेकर, तो उनको फल भी इतना ही जल्दी और अच्छा मिलेगा। थोड़ी भक्ति की होगी और देरी से की होगी तो फल भी इतना थोड़ा और देरी से मिलेगा।
Now, you Children understand that those who have performed a lot of devotion from the beginning will receive the good fruit of that equally fast. If they have performed less devotion or started a little later, they receive less fruit, and a little later on.
( Principal rulers of G A come FIRST to meet S S S in 'Sakar' through His 'mukrar-rath', BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, in the VERY BEGINNING of Confluence Age, followed by the principal rulers of S A, until 1969, when BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani becomes 'Avyakt'.
Thereafter, in the 'shooting' period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age, the principal rulers of 'g a' (in the beginning of C A), come first to 'meet' FALSE 'ShivBaba' or the NEGATIVE ENERGY of Ravan, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, V D D, followed by the principal rulers of 's a' (of the latter part of C A) - the 'suryavanshi' and 'chandravanshi' clans of Ravan's Paradise in C A! )

जितना बहुत भक्ति की हुई होगी वह जास्ती सुनने की कोशिश करेंगे। झट समझ जायेंगे। कम समझता है तो समझो यह देरी से आने वाला है। भक्ति भी देरी से की होगी। बहुत भक्ति करने वाला इशारे से समझ जायेगा। ड्रामा रिपीट तो होता है ना। सारा भक्ति पर मदार है। इस (बाबा) ने सबसे नम्बरवन भक्ति की है ना। कम भक्ति की होगी तो फल भी कम मिलेगा। यह सब समझने की बातें हैं। मोटी बुद्धि वाले धारणा कर नहीं सकेंगे।
Those who have performed more devotion will try harder to listen to Knowledge and will understand it quickly. If some understand less, you should realize that they will come later on, that they must have started performing devotion a little later. Those who have performed a great deal of devotion will understand (just) through signals. This drama continues to repeat. Everything depends on devotion. This one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) HAS PERFORMED THE MOST DEVOTION. Those who have performed less devotion receive less fruit. All of these matters have to be understood. Those (like most PBKs, in particular) who have GROSS intellects CANNOT imbibe these things.

बाप खुद बैठ बताते हैं मैंने कहा था मैं साधारण बूढ़े तन में आता हूँ, आकर तुमको पढ़ाता हूँ। यह भी सुनते हैं,अटेन्शन तो हमारे ऊपर है। यह भी स्टूडेन्ट है। यह अपने को और कुछ नहीं कहते। प्रजापिता सो भी स्टूडेन्ट है। भल इसने विनाश भी देखा परन्तु समझा कुछ भी नहीं। आहिस्ते-आहिस्ते समझते गये। जैसे तुम समझते जाते हो। बाप तुमको समझाते हैं, बीच में यह भी समझते जाते हैं, पढ़ते रहते हैं। हर एक स्टूडेन्ट पुरूषार्थ करेंगे पढ़ने का। ब्रह्मा-विष्णु-शंकर तो हैं सूक्ष्मवतनवासी। उन्हों का क्या पार्ट है, यह भी कोई नहीं जानते। बाप हर एक बात आपेही समझाते हैं। तुम प्रश्न कोई पूछ नहीं सकते। ऊपर में है शिव परमात्मा फिर देवतायें, उनको मिला कैसे सकते। अभी तुम बच्चे जानते हो बाप इसमें आकर प्रवेश करते हैं इसलिए कहा जाता है बापदादा। बाप अलग है, दादा अलग है। बाप शिव, दादा ब्रह्मा है। वर्सा शिव से मिलता है इन द्वारा। ब्राह्मण हो गये ब्रह्मा के बच्चे। बाप ने एडाप्ट किया है ड्रामा के प्लैन अनुसार। बाप कहते हैं नम्बरवन भक्त यह है। 84 जन्म भी इसने लिए हैं। सांवरा और गोरा भी इनको कहते हैं। कृष्ण सतयुग में गोरा था, कलियुग में सांवरा है। पतित है ना फिर पावन बनते हैं। तुम भी ऐसे बनते हो।
The Father (S S S), Himself, is sitting HERE (in His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) and telling you. I told you that I enter an ORDINARY old body (of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, as compared to His own ROYAL body of the beginning of G A. 'Maha-murkh' V D D, and his EQUALLY 'maha-murkh' gullible followers, CANNOT COMPREHEND how the body of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani is considered to be ordinary by S S S, and ARROGANTLY continue to OPPOSE GOD, by implying that the body of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani is not ordinary.) I come and TEACH YOU. (Likewise, 'Maha-murkh' V D D, and his EQUALLY 'maha-murkh' gullible followers, ARROGANTLY continue to OPPOSE GOD, by PERSISTENTLY implying that S S S does not TEACH through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani)! This one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) also listens; his attention is on Me. He too is a student. He doesn’t call himself anything else. As well as being the Father of Humanity (PRAJAPITA), he is also a student. Although he (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) had a vision of destruction, he didn’t understand anything (in the VERY beginning). GRADUALLY, he came to understand it all (this was NOT explained to him by any other soul, as claimed by ‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his gullible followers), just as YOU continue to understand it. The Father (S S S) explains to You and this one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani), in between, also continues to understand; he continues to study. Each student makes effort to study. Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar are residents of the Subtle Region. No one knows what their parts are. The Father Himself (S S S) EXPLAINS EACH ASPECT SO THAT THERE IS NO NEED FOR YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS. The Supreme Soul Shiva is at the top and then there are the deities. How can they mix them up? You Children NOW know that the Father enters this one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) and that, this is why WE ARE CALLED 'BapDada'. The Father is distinct from Dada (elder brother – ‘d’ pronounced as in ‘they’). Shiva is the Father and Brahma is Dada. YOU RECEIVE YOUR INHERITANCE from Shiva (S S S) through this one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). (WHEREAS, the Ravan Kumars & Ravan Kumaris – most PBKs, in particular – receive their inheritance of Ravan Rajya through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of ‘Ravan’, V D D). Brahmins are the children of Brahma. The Father (S S S) has adopted you according to the drama plan. The Father (S S S) says: This one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) was the NUMBER ONE devotee; he has taken 84 births. He (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) is also called the ugly and beautiful one. Krishna (soul of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) was beautiful in the Golden Age and he became ugly in the Iron Age. He (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) was impure and is now becoming pure. The same applies to you.

तुम बच्चों को ज्ञान का तीसरा नेत्र मिला है, तुम सबसे पहले तो बाप की बॉयोग्राफी को जान गये तो और क्या चाहिए। बाप को जानने से ही सब कुछ समझ में आ जाता है। तो खुशी होनी चाहिए। तुम जानते हो अभी हम सतयुग में जाकर सोने के महल बनायेंगे, राज्य करेंगे। जो सार्विसएबुल बच्चे हैं उन्हों की बुद्धि में रहेगा यह स्प्रीचुअल नॉलेज स्प्रीचुअल फादर देते हैं। स्प्रीचुअल फादर कहा जाता है आत्माओं के बाप को। वही सद्गति दाता है। सुख-शान्ति का वर्सा देते हैं।
You Children have received the THIRD EYE of Knowledge. First of all, you know the biography of the Father (S S S), and so what more would you want? By coming to know the Father (S S S, through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani), you come to understand EVERYTHING (NO QUESTION of getting trapped by Ravan through bodily ‘gurus’, like ‘maha-murkh’ V D D). Therefore, there should be happiness. You know that you will now go into the Golden Age and build palaces of gold; you will rule there. The intellects of serviceable Children will know that this spiritual Knowledge is being given by the spiritual Father (S S S, through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). The Father of souls is called the spiritual Father. He is the Bestower of Salvation. He gives the inheritance of peace and happiness.
IT HAS ALREADY BEEN CLARIFIED SEVERAL TIMES, THAT ALL THE MALPRACTICES, MISREPRESENTATIONS & MISINTERPRETATIONS, ORIGINATING & PREVAILING IN AIVV or PBKs on a 'seed level', are THEN reflected in PBKIVV or BKWSU or BKs on a 'subtle level', and the outer World of Ravan Rajya on a 'gross level'.
But this is evidently BEYOND the COMPREHENSION of some 'maha-murkh' PBKs, owing to the 'POVERTY' of their intellects, which is quite understandable, since they are currently operating at LESS THAN 8 celestial degrees of Purity! NO BLAME CAN BE APPORTIONED TO THEM in this regard!
'SEEDS' are few & small, 'ROOTS' are several and large, and the 'BRANCHES' are numerous and huge!

Above Pure Versions of S S S were spoken through the corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, BEFORE 1969, EXCLUSIVELY for the ‘saput’, 'sagey', 'mateley' Children - principal rulers of G A and S A!

NO AMBIGUITY WHATSOEVER, as to WHO IS REAL PRAJAPITA BRAHMA!!!

Above versions of S S S, have been HIJACKED by the Defamer of God, AFTER 1969, to FALSELY project himself as Prajapita Brahma, Confluence Age Krishna, Confluence Age Narayan, etc., and CONFIRM his HiranaKashyapHood; and continue to GENERATE & PROPAGATE the ‘faeces’ or ‘POISON’ of Reversed Advance knowledge, meant EXCLUSIVELY for the ‘kaput’, 'lagey', 'soteley' children - principal rulers of C A and I A; IN PARTICULAR, for the ‘suryavanshi’ and ‘chandravanshi’ principal rulers of Ravan’s ‘Satyug – g a’ and ‘Tretayug – s a’ of Ravan’s ‘paradise’ in C A, also lasting for 20 births – as already highlighted in earlier posts !

These are CLEAR, ABSOLUTELY INFALLIBLE PROOFS of the HiranyaKashyapHood of the Defamer of God and his gullible followers, preparing themselves for the BROTHEL (Vaishalay) – Ravan Rajya - delusively believing OTHERWISE!!!

THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

With Eternal, Infinite, Imperishable Divine LOVE . . . In Loveful Remembrance of Supreme Soul Shiv,
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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVISI

Post by karan » 13 Apr 2015

arjun wrote:Comparison can only be made with those who are alive in the Confluence Age at the time of Revelation of God. When it has already been declared by ShivBaba in the Murlis that these Brahma and Saraswati are not the real Mama and Baba, then there is no question of Mama being the cleverest. Perhaps she was the cleverest among the BKs present before 1965, but the studies are still going on, the final exam has not yet taken place. So, it cannot be announced beforehand that Om Radhey Saraswati was the cleverest.
Where is this said in Murlis?

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVISI

Post by arjun » 13 Apr 2015

golden heart wrote:IT HAS ALREADY BEEN CLARIFIED SEVERAL TIMES, THAT ALL THE MALPRACTICES, MISREPRESENTATIONS & MISINTERPRETATIONS, ORIGINATING & PREVAILING IN AIVV or PBKs on a 'seed level', are THEN reflected in PBKIVV or BKWSU or BKs on a 'subtle level', and the outer World of Ravan Rajya on a 'gross level'.
So, you have finally accepted that the PBKs are the seeds of the world in general and the BKs in particular. So, when the PBKs are the seeds, then the seed of the humanity, i.e. Prajapita must also be present with the PBKs. And where there is Prajapita, Shiv will naturally be with him. So, you are on the correct path of realization dear golden heart. :D

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVISI

Post by Roy » 13 Apr 2015

karan wrote:Where is this said in Murlis?
Regarding the point that Brahma-Saraswati are not the true Mama-Baba... here are some points that tell us, or at least hint at the fact, that other souls play these parts in the Confluence Age...

"... stayed for 10 years, would go into trance. They were sitting as heads. Baba gave directions entering them. There was so much respect... even Mama and Baba were their students. They also are not here today. There wasn't that much knowledge at that time." [Mu 25.07.67]

“Those who expired at the early stage of Yagya, again might have grown up to 20 years or 25 years. They might have taken their admission to the knowledge.” [Mu 17.02.75 - originally narrated in 1967]

“Everything, whatever happened in the beginning (of the Confluence Age), has to happen in the end.” [Mu 18.10.72]

"Actually, Brahma-Saraswati are not Mama-Baba." [Mu 21.07.77]

"Now this Brahma-Saraswati are not God. These praises cannot be for them. Calling them Mother-Father is wrong." [Mu 21.01.78]

"Humans understood, Adam is Brahma and Eve is Saraswati. But, that was wrong. This Brahma is not Adam, and this Saraswati is not Eve." [Mu 15.05.64]

"If the post of Mama and Baba is high, then the post of (some) children could be much higher." [Mu 14.03.63]

"Highest on high Father gives highest inheritance. They are Bhagvan-Bhagvati. Then at the second number, are Lakshmi & Narayan, masters of Satyug." [Mu 08.10.75]

"There is a difference in becoming a World Emperor and an Emperor of Satyug." [Av 28.01.85]


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Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
PBKIVV Rev SM dated 12.03.2015 wrote: तो अब दो बाप इकट्ठे हैं ना। बच्चे जानते हैं दोनों बाबा यहाँ हैं। तीसरे बाप को जानते हो परन्तु उनसे फिर भी यह अच्छा है, इनसे फिर वह अच्छा, नम्बरवार हैं ना। तो उस लौकिक से सम्बन्ध निकल बाकी इन दोनों से सम्बन्ध हो जाता है।
The TWO FATHERS (S S S & BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) are NOW together. You Children know that BOTH THE FATHERS ARE HERE. You also know the third 'Father' (worldly 'Father' of individual soul). However, this one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) is better than that one (worldly 'Father'), but the other One (S S S) is the best. They are number-wise. Therefore, you have moved away from the relationship of your worldly 'Father' (of the body) and NOW have a relationship with these TWO FATHERS (S S S & BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani).
(In CONTRAST, the Ravan Kumars & Ravan Kumaris – most PBKs, in particular - MASQUERADING as PBKs – have a relationship with THEIR two ‘fathers’ – ‘Ravan’ & V D D - MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’ & ‘Prajapita Brahma’, in the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age - since they receive the inheritance of 'sovereignty' in Ravan Rajya - 'kingdom' of Ravan - through V D D, the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan!)

अब तुम बच्चे यह तो समझते हो कि जिसने बहुत भक्ति की होगी शुरू से लेकर, तो उनको फल भी इतना ही जल्दी और अच्छा मिलेगा। थोड़ी भक्ति की होगी और देरी से की होगी तो फल भी इतना थोड़ा और देरी से मिलेगा।
Now, you Children understand that those who have performed a lot of devotion from the beginning will receive the good fruit of that equally fast. If they have performed less devotion or started a little later, they receive less fruit, and a little later on.
( Principal rulers of G A come FIRST to meet S S S in 'Sakar' through His 'mukrar-rath', BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, in the VERY BEGINNING of Confluence Age, followed by the principal rulers of S A, until 1969, when BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani becomes 'Avyakt'.
Thereafter, in the 'shooting' period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age, the principal rulers of 'g a' (in the beginning of C A), come first to 'meet' FALSE 'ShivBaba' or the NEGATIVE ENERGY of Ravan, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, V D D, followed by the principal rulers of 's a' (of the latter part of C A) - the 'suryavanshi' and 'chandravanshi' clans of Ravan's Paradise in C A! )

बहुत भक्ति करने वाला इशारे से समझ जायेगा। ड्रामा रिपीट तो होता है ना। सारा भक्ति पर मदार है। इस (बाबा) ने सबसे नम्बरवन भक्ति की है ना। कम भक्ति की होगी तो फल भी कम मिलेगा। यह सब समझने की बातें हैं। मोटी बुद्धि वाले धारणा कर नहीं सकेंगे।
Those who have performed a great deal of devotion will understand (just) through signals. This drama continues to repeat. Everything depends on devotion. This one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) HAS PERFORMED THE MOST DEVOTION. Those who have performed less devotion receive less fruit. All of these matters have to be understood. Those (like most PBKs, in particular) who have GROSS intellects CANNOT imbibe these things.

बाप खुद बैठ बताते हैं मैंने कहा था मैं साधारण बूढ़े तन में आता हूँ, आकर तुमको पढ़ाता हूँ। यह भी सुनते हैं,अटेन्शन तो हमारे ऊपर है। यह भी स्टूडेन्ट है। यह अपने को और कुछ नहीं कहते। प्रजापिता सो भी स्टूडेन्ट है। भल इसने विनाश भी देखा परन्तु समझा कुछ भी नहीं। आहिस्ते-आहिस्ते समझते गये। जैसे तुम समझते जाते हो। बाप तुमको समझाते हैं, बीच में यह भी समझते जाते हैं, पढ़ते रहते हैं। हर एक स्टूडेन्ट पुरूषार्थ करेंगे पढ़ने का। ब्रह्मा-विष्णु-शंकर तो हैं सूक्ष्मवतनवासी। उन्हों का क्या पार्ट है, यह भी कोई नहीं जानते। बाप हर एक बात आपेही समझाते हैं। तुम प्रश्न कोई पूछ नहीं सकते। ऊपर में है शिव परमात्मा फिर देवतायें, उनको मिला कैसे सकते। अभी तुम बच्चे जानते हो बाप इसमें आकर प्रवेश करते हैं इसलिए कहा जाता है बापदादा। बाप अलग है, दादा अलग है। बाप शिव, दादा ब्रह्मा है। वर्सा शिव से मिलता है इन द्वारा। ब्राह्मण हो गये ब्रह्मा के बच्चे। बाप ने एडाप्ट किया है ड्रामा के प्लैन अनुसार। बाप कहते हैं नम्बरवन भक्त यह है। 84 जन्म भी इसने लिए हैं। सांवरा और गोरा भी इनको कहते हैं। कृष्ण सतयुग में गोरा था, कलियुग में सांवरा है। पतित है ना फिर पावन बनते हैं। तुम भी ऐसे बनते हो।
The Father (S S S), Himself, is sitting HERE (in His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) and telling you. I told you that I enter an ORDINARY old body (of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, as compared to His own ROYAL body of the beginning of G A. 'Maha-murkh' V D D, and his EQUALLY 'maha-murkh' gullible followers, CANNOT COMPREHEND how the body of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani is considered to be ordinary by S S S, and ARROGANTLY continue to OPPOSE GOD, by implying that the body of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani is not ordinary.) I come and TEACH YOU. (Likewise, 'Maha-murkh' V D D, and his EQUALLY 'maha-murkh' gullible followers, ARROGANTLY continue to OPPOSE GOD, by PERSISTENTLY implying that S S S does not TEACH through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani)! This one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) also listens; his attention is on Me. He too is a student. He doesn’t call himself anything else. As well as being the Father of Humanity (PRAJAPITA), he is also a student. Although he (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) had a vision of destruction, he didn’t understand anything (in the VERY beginning). GRADUALLY, he came to understand it all (this was NOT explained to him by any other soul, as claimed by ‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his gullible followers), just as YOU continue to understand it. The Father (S S S) explains to You and this one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani), in between, also continues to understand; he continues to study. Each student makes effort to study. Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar are residents of the Subtle Region. No one knows what their parts are. The Father Himself (S S S) EXPLAINS EACH ASPECT SO THAT THERE IS NO NEED FOR YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS. The Supreme Soul Shiva is at the top and then there are the deities. How can they mix them up? You Children NOW know that the Father enters this one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) and that, this is why WE ARE CALLED 'BapDada'. The Father is distinct from Dada (elder brother – ‘d’ pronounced as in ‘they’). Shiva is the Father and Brahma is Dada. YOU RECEIVE YOUR INHERITANCE from Shiva (S S S) through this one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). (WHEREAS, the Ravan Kumars & Ravan Kumaris – most PBKs, in particular – receive their inheritance of Ravan Rajya through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of ‘Ravan’, V D D). Brahmins are the children of Brahma. The Father (S S S) has adopted you according to the drama plan. The Father (S S S) says: This one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) was the NUMBER ONE devotee; he has taken 84 births. He (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) is also called the ugly and beautiful one. Krishna (soul of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) was beautiful in the Golden Age and he became ugly in the Iron Age. He (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) was impure and is now becoming pure. The same applies to you.
IT HAS ALREADY BEEN CLARIFIED SEVERAL TIMES, THAT ALL THE MALPRACTICES, MISREPRESENTATIONS & MISINTERPRETATIONS, ORIGINATING & PREVAILING IN AIVV or PBKs on a 'seed level', are THEN reflected in PBKIVV or BKWSU or BKs on a 'subtle level', and the outer World of Ravan Rajya on a 'gross level'.
But this is evidently BEYOND the COMPREHENSION of some 'maha-murkh' PBKs, owing to the 'POVERTY' of their intellects, which is quite understandable, since they are currently operating at LESS THAN 8 celestial degrees of Purity! NO BLAME CAN BE APPORTIONED TO THEM in this regard!
'SEEDS' are few & small, 'ROOTS' are several and large, and the 'BRANCHES' are numerous and huge!

AS CLEARLY EVIDENT FROM THIS POST, most of the PBKs, in particular, are the 'seeds' of EVIL, of the World, in general - and of the BKs, in particular! So, when most of the PBKs, in particular, are the 'seeds' of EVIL, then OBVIOUSLY the 'PRINCIPAL Seed of EVIL' within Humanity, i.e. FALSE 'Prajapita Brahma', 'maha-murkh' V D D, has to be MOST DEFINITELY present with these 'maha-murkh' PBKs, who are ACTUALLY RKs (Ravan Kumars & Ravan Kumaris). And OBVIOUSLY where there is FALSE 'Prajapita' (MASQUERADING as the REAL Prajapita), FALSE Shiv, i.e. Ravan, (MASQUERADING as REAL Shiv) will MOST NATURALLY be with him - the DoG, MASQUERADING as GOD - by establishing the DoGly University, AIVV, to CHALLENGE the Godly UNIVERSITY, PBKIVV!

REAL ShivBaba has ALREADY DECLARED several times in the SMs that Brahma (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) and Saraswati (Om Radhe) are NUMBER ONE - Adi Dev & Adi Devi - the TRUE PARENTS of HUMANITY - the HIGHEST Mother & Father or Mama & Baba on the CORPOREAL level of the HUMAN REALM! THESE ARE THE ONLY TWO SEATS WHICH WERE ALREADY DECLARED BY S S S, IN ADVANCE, IN THE BEGINNING ITSELF, in SEVERAL SMs, which 'maha-murkh' V D D, and his BLIND, gullible followers are OBVIOUSLY NOT AWARE OF, and NEITHER DO THEY CARE TO MAKE THEMSELVES AWARE OF, due to their ARROGANCE of Body-Consciousness!
The point spoken by S S S in the SM regarding Brahma and Saraswati not being 'real' Mama & Baba, was with reference to the SPIRITUAL REALM of SOULS and NOT the HUMAN CORPOREAL REALM of EMBODIED BEINGS!
In THAT PARTICULAR sense, REAL Mother & Father ('Mat-Pita') or Mama & Baba of ALL SOULS is S S S, and NOT Brahma & Saraswati, who are Mama & Baba of embodied souls on the corporeal level, and they are NOT GOD!
'Maha-murkh' V D D and his gullible followers, who CANNOT DIFFERENTIATE between the Spiritual 'Mouth of the Cow' and the Spiritual 'Anus of the Bull', and DELUSIVELY 'think' that the Spiritual 'Mouth' is the Spiritual 'Anus' and vice versa, KEEP ON MISREPRESENTING, CORRUPTING, ADULTERATING & INVERTING EVERY PURE VERSION of S S S in the SMs and AVs, due to their INVERTED intellects, operating at LESS THAN 8 celestial degrees purity, in the 'shooting' period of Ravan Rajya, in the latter part of Confluence Age; and FURTHERMORE, they DO NOT HESITATE to MISREPRESENT EVERY CLARIFICATION of the Pure Versions of S S S, presented by ANYONE, COMPLETELY & DELIBERATELY IGNORING the other Pure Versions of S S S, also being highlighted herein SIMULTANEOUSLY! These spiritual 'GOONS' endeavour to DECEIVE others by indicating that they are 'ON Godly SERVICE' - OGS - when in REALITY they are 'ON GOONLY SERVICE' of Ravan, MASQUERADING as GOD!

What a PROFOUNDLY 'PERPLEXING', 'PUZZLING' & 'POLARIZING' DRAMA, INDEED ! ! !

Above Pure Versions of S S S were spoken through the corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, BEFORE 1969, EXCLUSIVELY for the ‘saput’, 'sagey', 'mateley' Children - principal rulers of G A and S A!

NO AMBIGUITY WHATSOEVER, as to WHO IS REAL PRAJAPITA BRAHMA!!!

Above versions of S S S, have been HIJACKED by the Defamer of God, AFTER 1969, to FALSELY project himself as Prajapita Brahma, Confluence Age Krishna, Confluence Age Narayan, etc., and CONFIRM his HiranaKashyapHood; and continue to GENERATE & PROPAGATE the ‘faeces’ or ‘POISON’ of Reversed Advance knowledge, meant EXCLUSIVELY for the ‘kaput’, 'lagey', 'soteley' children - principal rulers of C A and I A; IN PARTICULAR, for the ‘suryavanshi’ and ‘chandravanshi’ principal rulers of Ravan’s ‘Satyug – g a’ and ‘Tretayug – s a’ of Ravan’s ‘paradise’ in C A, also lasting for 20 births – as already highlighted in earlier posts !

These are CLEAR, ABSOLUTELY INFALLIBLE PROOFS of the HiranyaKashyapHood of the Defamer of God and his gullible followers, preparing themselves for the BROTHEL (Vaishalay) – Ravan Rajya - delusively believing OTHERWISE!!!

THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

With Eternal, Infinite, Imperishable Divine LOVE . . . In Loveful Remembrance of Supreme Soul Shiv,
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golden heart wrote:'Maha-murkh' V D D and his gullible followers, who CANNOT DIFFERENTIATE between the 'Spiritual Mouth of the Cow' and the Spiritual 'Anus of the Bull', and DELUSIVELY 'think' that the Spiritual 'Mouth' is the Spiritual 'Anus' and vice versa, KEEP ON MISREPRESENTING, CORRUPTING, ADULTERATING & INVERTING EVERY PURE VERSION of S S S in the SMs and AVs, due to their INVERTED intellects, operating at LESS THAN 8 celestial degrees purity, in the 'shooting' period of Ravan Rajya
Wonderful gems emerging from the mouth of golden heart who keeps on drinking the milk of knowledge from the 'Mouth of Cow' !!!

I keep on wondering how many more gems of knowledge are embedded in the womb-like intellect of golden heart!!

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I recently happened to visit a BK center which was no less than a big mansion. When the BK teacher came to know that I was a PBK she told me that they get some emails containing Murli points etc. She was unhappy that PBKs are defaming them. I told her that she was disgusted at receiving emails from PBKs containing Murli points which BKs consider defamatory, but they haven't heard or read the abuses that BKs are hurling at the PBKs on the internet. She started telling that we don't allow BKs to use such language and restrain them. But here is golden heart who has been relentlessly hurling abuses at PBKs in filthy language and there is no one to restrain him/her. Perhaps he/she has the blessings of the BKWSU besides the obvious blessings of the Admin of this site, who seem to have forgotten his promise that he will take action against golden heart if he/she continues to use filthy language. May their friendship grow further!!!! :D

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Classical Opposing Viewpoints – 18

Post by Golden Heart » 14 Apr 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,

Classical Opposing Viewpoints – 18

"... stayed for 10 years, would go into trance. They were sitting as heads. Baba gave directions entering them. There was so much respect... even Mama and Baba were their students. They also are not here today. There wasn't that much knowledge at that time." [Mu 25.07.67]
(Refers to the trance-sisters who were placed in charge by BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, as a matter of regard, and for training purposes. However, they FAILED to recognise both the Parlokik and Alokik Parents, and left the Yagya, since storks and swans could not continue to exist together. This has already been clarified in earliers posts.)

“Those who expired at the early stage of Yagya, again might have grown up to 20 years or 25 years. They might have taken their admission to The Knowledge.” [Mu 17.02.75 - originally narrated in 1967]
(Refers to souls who FAILED, and belong to the Moon Dynasty. This has already been clarified in earliers posts.)

“Everything, whatever happened in the beginning (of the Confluence Age), has to happen in the end.” [Mu 18.10.72]
(Children were entertained with visions in the beginning. S S S has said He would entertain the Children - ONLY those who remain in His ACCURATE REMEMBRANCE - with visions in the end! SINCE Confluence Age is now nearing the end, THIS PROCESS HAS ALREADY COMMENCED - UNKNOWN to ‘Maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers !!!)

"Actually, Brahma-Saraswati are not Mama-Baba." [Mu 21.07.77]
(Brahma & Saraswati are not 'Mother & Father', but 'Father & Daughter' - in their EFFORT-MAKING STAGE – this is the CORRECT INTENT of S S S in this Version, which has been DELIBERATELY DISTORTED by ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, to CONFUSE & CONFOUND his EQUALLY ‘maha-murkh’, BLIND, gullible followers!)

Murli dated 16.04.2012 says, “Brahma and Saraswati are not a Father and Mother, but that Saraswati is the daughter of Brahma, that she too is a Brahma Kumari. Brahma is your senior Mother, but because he is male, Jagadamba (Om Radhe) has been called the Mother. A very good intellect is needed to understand this deep and significant aspect."
(‘Maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers CANNOT BE EXPECTED to have such GOOD and SUBTLE INTELLECTS !)

"Now this Brahma-Saraswati are not God. These praises cannot be for them. Calling them Mother-Father is wrong." [Mu 21.01.78]
(Calling them Mother & Father – Mat-Pita – CONSIDERING them to be GOD, IS WRONG ! True Mother & Father of ALL SOULS is ONLY ONE S S S and NONE OTHER. Brahma & Saraswati are the TRUE Adi Dev & Adi Devi of the Cycle – the Mother & Father of embodied souls on the corporeal sphere!)

"Humans understood, Adam is Brahma and Eve is Saraswati. But, that was wrong. This Brahma is not Adam, and this Saraswati is not Eve." [Mu 15.05.64]
(Brahma & Saraswati, in THEIR EFFOR-MAKING STAGE is not Adam and Eve. They are TRUE Adi Dev & Adi Devi of the Cycle ONLY in their COMPLETE STAGE!)

"If the post of Mama and Baba is high, then the post of (some) children could be much higher." [Mu 14.03.63]
(Spoken PURELY as a matter of ENCOURAGEMENT to other souls. NO OTHER HUMAN SOULS CAN BE HIGHER THAN BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani & Om Radhe – Mama & Baba!)
BKWSU Rev SM dated 13.12.2013 wrote:One should go even higher than Baba & Mama (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani & Om Radhe). BUT, just as Baba(Supreme Soul Shiva) says that if those TWO Christians (America & Russia) get together, then they can become the Masters of the World, (but this is NOT destined within Drama), there is NO such combination of Soul Mates (Yugal Dana) who can emerge, who can go higher than Mother & Father (Om Radhe & BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). Only the World Mother & World Father (Om Radhe & BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) are renowned; others will not be able to perform service like THESE (Om Radhe & BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). THESE (Om Radhe & BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) have become instrumental, hence do not be dis-heartened. OK, even if others cannot become like Mama & Baba (Om Radhe & BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani), they can yet come into the second number. Everything depends on Service!
"Highest on high Father gives highest inheritance. They are Bhagvan-Bhagvati. Then at the second number, are Lakshmi & Narayan, masters of Satyug." [Mu 08.10.75]
(Highest on high Father – S S S – gives highest inheritance of ‘Bhagvan-Bhagvati’ to BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani & Om Radhe in Confluence Age, who then become FIRST Lakshmi & Narayan of G A. The status of the SAME TWO SOULS in beginning of G A, is considered INFERIOR to the status of the SAME TWO SOULS at the end of Confluence Age, since COMPLETE Brahmins are CONSIDERED more ELEVATED than the HIGHEST DEITIES of G A - BUT THEY ARE THE SAME SOULS! The status of SAME TWO souls in Confluence Age is considered as first number, and the status of the VERY SAME TWO souls in G A is considered as second number! It is the STATUS which is considered as first or second - the status of the SAME PAIR OF SOULS, but at different periods! Only the TWO SOULS who achieve the HIGHEST POSITION at the END OF Confluence Age, by their EFFORTS, get the HIGHEST POSITION in the BEGINNING OF G A, as the FRUIT of their efforts in Confluence Age! Ravan has TREACHEROUSLY TWISTED this Version to imply that the souls of Bhagvan-Bhagvati of Confluence Age are DIFFERENT from the souls of Lakshmi & Narayan of G A!)

"There is a difference in becoming a World Emperor and an Emperor of Satyug." [Av 28.01.85]
(Here again, the HIGHEST World Emperor of Confluence Age, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, HIMSELF becomes the HIGHEST Emperor of G A! The QUALIFCATION required to become the HIGHEST Emperor of G A, which is the FRUIT of efforts in Confluence Age, is to FIRST become the HIGHEST World Emperor in Confluence Age, by virtue of EFFORTS – a position achieved only by BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani and NONE OTHER! Ravan has TREACHEROUSLY TWISTED this Version to imply that the souls of HIGHEST World Sovereigns of Confluence Age - Bhagvan-Bhagvati of Confluence Age - are DIFFERENT from the souls of HIGHEST World Sovereigns of G A - Lakshmi & Narayan of G A!)

“Baba (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) has been to Amarnath as well. Baba (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) saw everything as to how they make the Shivling. They say that Shankar narrated a story to Parvati there. Well what kind of degradation did Parvati undergo that he sat and narrated the story to her? ACTUALLY, YOU ALL ARE 'PARVATIS' (principal rulers of G A and S A, MEETING S S S in ‘Sakar’, through the corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, prior 1969); you pass through The Cycle of birth and death and you are listening to the story to achieve true salvation (from S S S, through the corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, prior 1969).” [Mu 05.09.08]
( OBVIOUSLY, when S S S was DIRECTLY SPEAKING to ‘PARVATIS’ in ‘Sakar’ through the corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, then who can be considered to be REAL Shankar ??????
‘Maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers CANNOT EVEN UNDERSTAND THIS MUCH! Please refer to earlier posts in this thread for further clarifications regarding the part of TRUE Shankar, as compared to the FALSE, IMPOSTER Shankar of the PBKs - ‘maha-murkh’ V D D - the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan! )
BKWSU Rev SM dated 28.01.2015 wrote: Brahma doesn’t have a wife. This one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) simply belongs to the Father. These are such wonderful aspects! THIS one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) is the Mother and Father. He (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) is Prajapita, through whom the Father (S S S) creates the Children. Therefore, he is also a Mother. Saraswati is remembered as the daughter of Brahma. The Father sits here and explains all of these things.
( In many versions in SMs and AVs, S S S has EXPLICITLY CLARIFIED that the soul of Shri Krishna of G A – BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani – is BOTH Mother as well as Father of Humanity – Adam, as well as Eve !
S S S has also clarified EXPLICITLY that BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani is Prajapita, through whom He creates the Children !
The DoG and his gullible followers cannot comprehend the subtler meanings of these Versions due to their INVERTED intellects, as per Drama Plan ! )
BKWSU Rev SM dated 01.12.2003 wrote: The Supreme Soul (S S S) is NOW TEACHING US SOULS (the principal rulers of G A and S A) the Knowledge which is in Him. The rest of the people (PBKs, in particular) ARE IN EXTREME DARKNESS! The Scriptures (the garbage emanating from the 'bogus mouth' of the ‘mukrar rath’ of Ravan – V D D) belong to the path of Worship; that CANNOT be considered to be Knowledge. The (PURE) Knowledge is the Day, and (ADULTERATED Knowledge) Worship is the Night. You can ask : Who is the Creator of the (TRUE) Gita and when did He come? When was the (TRUE) Gita written? The Father (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) also keeps writing, then it is necessary to churn on that. By inculcating in the Intellect in this manner you will continue to progress. The Father (S S S) says: Remember Me. The Children have been explained about the significance of the Rosary. The Supreme Soul, Supreme Father (S S S) is the Unlimited Flower, then there are the TWO beads, BRAHMA (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) and Saraswati (Om Radhe) – (the ONLY SINGULAR, UNADULTERATED Trimurti of the CYLCE) !!! The Creation has been created through Prajapita Brahma (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). These (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani and Om Radhe) are ADI DEV and ADI DEVI !!! These Brahmins (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani and Om Radhe) have established Heaven (as the CHIEF INSTRUMENTS)! This is why they are worshipped !!!
No matter how many times CORRECT clarifications are provided, the gullible followers of the Defamer of God WILL CONTINUE to ‘defecate’ the ‘faeces’ or 'POISON' of CORRUPTED, ADULTERATED, DISTORTED, POLLUTED & INVERTED Reversed Advance Knowledge - UN-INVITED, UN-ADDRESSED and UN-CALLED FOR, in most instances!!!

Although, the gullible followers of the Defamer of God, carry the PURE Versions of S S S on the ‘BACK’ of their CORRUPTED intellects, like spiritual 'DONKEYS', THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING AT ALL, in the RIGHT PERSPECTIVE !!!
BKWSU Rev SM dated 26.11.2014 wrote: Why do people (PBKs, in particular - in the 'shooting' period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age) study the (TRUE) Gita (SMs and AVs) so much? THEY DON’T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING AT ALL! THEY (the Defamer of God and his gullible followers) JUST TAKE UP A FEW CHAPTERS (random Versions in SMs and AVs) AND EXTRACT THEIR OWN MEANING FROM THEM ! All of that is created by human beings (the Defamer of God and his gullible followers - DELUSIVELY claiming same to be the 'Murlis' or Versions of GOD)!
THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

With Eternal, Infinite, Imperishable Divine LOVE . . . In Loveful Remembrance of Supreme Soul Shiv,
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