Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

To discuss the BK and PBK versions relating to the progressive differential development of BK & PBK ideologies or theologies.
Post Reply
User avatar
Golden Heart
Supreme Spiritual Surgeon
Posts: 919
Joined: 29 Sep 2007
Affinity to the BKWSU: Supreme Spiritual Surgery
Please give a short description of your interest in joining this forum.: To facilitate realization of UNITY in DIVERSITY

TRAPPED by Ravan, in the first 'Mooladhara Chakra' !

Post by Golden Heart » 26 Apr 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
PBKIVV Rev SM dated 23.04.2015 wrote: बाप तो है निराकार। वह अपना तख्त कहाँ से लाये। बाप कहते हैं मेरा भी यह तख्त है। मैं आकर इस तख्त का लोन लेता हूँ। ब्रह्मा के साधारण बूढ़े तन में अकाल तख्त पर आकर बैठता हूँ।
The Father (S S S) is incorporeal. From where would He bring His throne (body)? The Father (S S S) says: THIS (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) IS My throne too. I come and take THIS THRONE (corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) on loan.
I come and sit on this IMMORTAL THRONE of the ORDINARY old body of Brahma (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani - declared DIRECTLY by GOD HIMSELF) !
(INSPITE of SEVERAL CLARIFICATIONS, the DoG and his BLIND, gullible followers ARROGANTLY OPPOSE & INSULT GOD persistently, by FALSELY propagating that the 'VEHICLE' of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, is not ordinary, and is not the ‘immortal throne’) !

अभी बाप बच्चों को समझाते हैं, उनमें भी थोड़े हैं जो धारणा कर सकते हैं। बाकी तो कुछ नहीं समझते।
The Father now explains to you children. However, there are a few who can imbibe it. THE REST (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers, in particular) DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING (in the CORRECT perspective; and there is NO 'RECOURSE' for those who DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING in the CORRECT perspective, other than 'ANNIHILATION', in the end - as ordained within the EWD)!

यह ज्ञान की बातें तुम्हारे में भी नम्बरवार धारण कर सकते हैं। धारणा नहीं कर सकते तो बाकी क्या काम के रहे। कई तो अन्धों की लाठी बनने के बदले अन्धे बन जाते हैं।
Amongst you too, you are able to imbibe these things of Knowledge numberwise. If someone (like ‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers, in particular) is unable to imbibe, of what use is that one? Instead of becoming sticks for the blind, some (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers, in particular) even BECOME BLIND THEMSELVES (and are 'determined' to make others BLIND too - due to their CORRUPTED & INVERTED intellects)!
‘Maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers, who have become ONES WITH A STONE-LIKE INTELLECT in Confluence Age, keep OPPOSING GOD CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY, AS PROVED IN ABOVE Versions of the SM; and what’s more, THEY ARE NOT EVEN ‘AWARE’ THAT THEY ARE, IN FACT, OPPOSING GOD, since they DELUSIVELY ‘believe’ that Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘Supreme Soul’, is ‘God’! ! !
ABSOLUTE DEMONS, MORONS & ZOMBIES, INDEED!
Golden Heart - The Confluence Age 'seeds' of EVIL ! ! ! - 13 Apr 2015 - wrote: 'Maha-murkh' V D D and his gullible followers, who CANNOT DIFFERENTIATE between the Spiritual 'Mouth of the Cow' and the Spiritual 'Anus of the Bull', and DELUSIVELY 'think' that the Spiritual 'Mouth' is the Spiritual 'Anus' and vice versa, KEEP ON MISREPRESENTING, CORRUPTING, ADULTERATING & INVERTING EVERY PURE VERSION of S S S in the SMs and AVs, due to their INVERTED intellects, operating at LESS THAN 8 celestial degrees purity, in the 'shooting' period of Ravan Rajya, in the latter part of Confluence Age; and FURTHERMORE, they DO NOT HESITATE to MISREPRESENT EVERY CLARIFICATION of the Pure Versions of S S S, presented by ANYONE, COMPLETELY & DELIBERATELY IGNORING the other Pure Versions of S S S, also being highlighted herein SIMULTANEOUSLY! These spiritual 'GOONS' endeavour to DECEIVE others by indicating that they are 'ON Godly SERVICE' - OGS - when in REALITY they are 'ON GOONLY SERVICE' of Ravan, MASQUERADING as GOD!
View HERE - footnote!

"I come and sit on this IMMORTAL THRONE of the ORDINARY old body of Brahma" (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani - declared DIRECTLY by GOD HIMSELF) !
IT IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY CLEAR THAT:
‘Maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers CANNOT PERCEIVE –
a) that GOD HIMSELF has declared above
b) to whom GOD is ACTUALLY relating to, in His declaration above
c) and MOST IMPORTANTLY - what GOD ACTUALLY means, when he declares above

The reasons, for their lack of 'ACCURATE' PERCEPTION, are:
1. They are SPIRITUALLY ‘BLIND’ or their THIRD EYE is COMPLETELY CLOSED
2. They are currently operating at LESS THAN 8 celestial degrees purity
3. Their INTELLECT is INVERTED
4. They INTERPRET EVERYTHING from a Body-Conscious PERSPECTIVE
5. They are performing the ‘shooting’ of Ravan Rajya in the latter part of Confluence Age

Since they are merely enacting their preordained roles within the EWD, NO BLAME CAN BE APPORTIONED TO THEM and THEY CANNOT BE CONDEMNED, in the ‘WORLDLY’ sense.
Only clarifications are being PROVIDED, and that too ONLY for the benefit of CONCERNED, SELECTED SOULS, for a VERY DEFINITE PREORDAINED PURPOSE, which will become CLEAR, as we move on.

Since they are STILL ‘TRAPPED’ by Ravan, (through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'maha-murkh' V D D), at the ‘Mooladhara area’ of consciousness of the physical body, they have ‘BABY INTELLECTS’, and so according to their INNER ‘INFERIOR’ VISION, they STILL ‘visualise’ BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani to be STILL in his initial ‘BABY-INTELLECT’ stage, or ‘STUDENT’ stage; furthermore, due to their Body-Consciousness, they are ‘INFLUENCED’ more by the previous 'DEAD BODY' of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, (which has DISINTEGRATED and merged into respective 'mother' elements), rather than the current VIBRANT VEHICLE of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, which is DYNAMICALLY OPERATIVE; and BLINDLY presume that BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani is 'DEAD', while at the SAME TIME ‘believing’ that BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani 'delivers' the AVs through DG or that BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani 'operates' through their bodily ‘guru’ - MUTUALLY CONTRADICTORY BELIEFS – THUS PROVING THEMSELVES TO BE ABSOLUTE MORONS & ZOMBIES!

“The FIRST CHAKRA ENERGY HAS TROUBLE INTERPRETING OUR LIVES SYMBOLICALLY, for our FIVE SENSES give us LITERAL PERCEPTIONS and cause us to take things at 'FACE' VALUE. Not until we are older (SPIRITUALLY MATURE) are we able to seek out the SYMBOLIC MEANING OF EVENTS AND RELATIONSHIPS” (ACCURATELY) !
View HERE - The 7 Chakras - Energy Vortexes of the Human Body !

WHEREAS, V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers are currently 'OPERATING' at the 'Mooladhara Area' ;
BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani and his Special Task Force (STF) of Shiv-Shaktis are 'OPERATING' at the 'Sahasrara Area' !

THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

With Eternal, Infinite, Imperishable Divine LOVE . . . In Loveful Remembrance of Supreme Soul Shiv,
Golden Heart

User avatar
arjun
PBK
Posts: 11592
Joined: 01 May 2006
Affinity to the BKWSU: PBK
Please give a short description of your interest in joining this forum.: To exchange views with past and present members of BKWSU and its splinter groups.
Location: India

Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by arjun » 27 Apr 2015

Dear golden heart,
Om Shanti and thanks for repeating your posts along with the sweet titles. :D
golden heart wrote:WHEREAS, V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers are currently 'OPERATING' at the 'Mooladhara Area' ;
BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani and his Special Task Force (STF) of Shiv-Shaktis are 'OPERATING' at the 'Sahasrara Area' !
People can understand on their own as to who is operating at the level of 'Sahasrara' (corresponding to the top of the head) and who is operating at the mooladhara (corresponding to the pelvic region of the body), who is speaking of God's words and who is speaking of anus, urine and faeces all the time.
golden heart wrote:MORE SPECIFICALLY - the 'IDOL WORSHIP' of the 'Phallus' or 'Lingum' of their bodily 'guru', 'maha-murkh' V D D, who carries out the 'MOST FILTHY ACT' of PHYSICAL COPULATION with most PBK VIRGIN Kumaris, in particular, and PBK Mothers, in general, making them DELUSIVELY 'believe' that such 'FILTHY & DIRTY ACT' is a pure 'ACT of GOD, when, in TRUTH, it is the 'Act of Ravan' - thus COMPREHENSIVELY 'RAPING' THEM, in the 'name' of God!
The spiritual 'GIGOLOS' and 'PROSTITUTES' - the spiritual 'ORPHANS' or spiritual 'BASTARDS', who are the ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING of Ravan - through their Chief spiritual 'GIGOLO', V D D, and Chief spiritual 'PROSTITUTE', KDD-S - MASQUERADING as 'offspring' of GOD - will spare NO EFFORTS to 'VIGOROUSLY ATTACK' and 'COMPLETELY ELIMINATE' any individual who attempts to EXPOSE THEM and DARES to speak the TRUTH !
OGS,
Arjun

User avatar
Golden Heart
Supreme Spiritual Surgeon
Posts: 919
Joined: 29 Sep 2007
Affinity to the BKWSU: Supreme Spiritual Surgery
Please give a short description of your interest in joining this forum.: To facilitate realization of UNITY in DIVERSITY

Treacherously TRAPPED in the first 'Mooladhara Chakra' !

Post by Golden Heart » 27 Apr 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
PBKIVV Rev SM dated 27.04.2015 wrote: बाप ही बतलाते हैं आत्मा इतनी छोटी है, मैं भी इतना हूँ। नॉलेज भी जरूर कोई शरीर में प्रवेश कर देंगे। आत्मा के बाजू में आकर बैठूँगा। मेरे में पॉवर है, आरगन्स मिल गये तो मैं धनी हो गया। इन आरगन्स द्वारा बैठ समझाता हूँ, इनको एडम भी कहा जाता है। एडम है पहला-पहला आदमी। मनुष्यों का सिजरा है ना। यह माता-पिता भी बनते हैं, इनसे फिर रचना होती है, है पुराना परन्तु एडाप्ट किया है, नहीं तो ब्रह्मा कहाँ से आया। ब्रह्मा के बाप का नाम कोई बताये। ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर यह किसकी रचना तो होगी ना! रचयिता तो एक ही है, बाप ने तो इनको एडाप्ट किया है।
Only the Father (S S S) tells you that souls are very tiny and that He Himself is just as tiny. He (S S S) definitely has to incarnate in a body in order to give you Knowledge. I (S S S) come and sit beside this soul (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). I have power in Me. Once I have received organs, I become the 'Owner'. I sit here and explain to You through these organs (of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). THIS ONE (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) is also called Adam. Adam is the FIRST HUMAN BEING. There is the genealogical tree of human beings. THIS ONE (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) ALSO becomes a Mother AS WELL AS a Father (Adam as well Eve). CREATION then takes place through him (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). He is the oldest one. He (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) has been adopted (by S S S, through the ‘lotus’ mouth of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani himself). Otherwise, where could Brahma come from? Can anyone tell you the name of Brahma’s Father (S S S)? Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar are definitely the creation of someone. There is only the one Creator (S S S). The Father (S S S), the Creator, has adopted this one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani - through the ‘lotus’ mouth of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani himself) !

Above Pure Version was spoken by S S S through the corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, BEFORE 1969, EXCLUSIVELY for the ‘saput’, 'sagey', 'mateley' Children - principal rulers of G A and S A!
NO AMBIGUITY WHATSOEVER, as to WHO IS REAL PRAJAPITA BRAHMA, FIRST MAN or ADAM!!!

Above version of S S S, has been HIJACKED by the Defamer of God, AFTER 1969, to FALSELY project himself as Prajapita Brahma, First Man, Adam, etc., and CONFIRM his HiranyaKashyapHood!

The DoG, V D D, and his BLIND, gullible followers are currently 'TREACHEROUSLY TRAPPED', by Ravan, at the 'Mooladhara Area', DELUSIVELY ‘TRICKED INTO BELIEVING’ that they are 'operating' at the 'Sahasrara Area'; as a DIRECT CONSEQUENCE of which, they would, MOST OBVIOUSLY, CONSIDER ANYONE who is CAUTIONING them of their current status, (USING TERMINOLOGY which BEST 'SUITS' THEM, according to their current PRACTICAL ACTIVITY), to be also located at the 'Mooladhara Area',
(in ACCORDANCE with their 'TAINTED' and 'COLOURED' VISION) !

ALL, PERFECTLY AS PER DRAMA PLAN, OF COURSE – NOTHING NEW !
View HERE - The 7 Chakras - Energy Vortexes of the Human Body !

THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

With Eternal, Infinite, Imperishable Divine LOVE . . . In Loveful Remembrance of Supreme Soul Shiv,
Golden Heart

User avatar
arjun
PBK
Posts: 11592
Joined: 01 May 2006
Affinity to the BKWSU: PBK
Please give a short description of your interest in joining this forum.: To exchange views with past and present members of BKWSU and its splinter groups.
Location: India

Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by arjun » 28 Apr 2015

ALL, PERFECTLY AS PER DRAMA PLAN, OF COURSE – NOTHING NEW !
Indeed!!! It is clearly unfolding before our eyes and your acts (words) are proving the words of ShivBaba.

User avatar
fluffy bunny
ex-BKWSU
Posts: 5365
Joined: 07 Apr 2006
Affinity to the BKWSU: ex-BK
Please give a short description of your interest in joining this forum.: ex-BK. Interested in historical revisionism, failed predictions and abuse within the BK movement.

Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by fluffy bunny » 28 Apr 2015

Excuse me while I disturb your ranting ... but can you remind me why you personally have such a beef with the "******* eating zombie" PBKs?

Were you a BK who became a PBK and then got disappointed?

Are you a member of the Vishnu Party or another group?

Simple, honest answer please.

(And not more theory/propaganda, thank you).

User avatar
Golden Heart
Supreme Spiritual Surgeon
Posts: 919
Joined: 29 Sep 2007
Affinity to the BKWSU: Supreme Spiritual Surgery
Please give a short description of your interest in joining this forum.: To facilitate realization of UNITY in DIVERSITY

REAL ShivBaba versus FALSE 'ShivBaba' !

Post by Golden Heart » 28 Apr 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
PBKIVV Rev SM dated 23.04.2015 wrote: बाप तो है निराकार। वह अपना तख्त कहाँ से लाये। बाप कहते हैं मेरा भी यह तख्त है। मैं आकर इस तख्त का लोन लेता हूँ। ब्रह्मा के साधारण बूढ़े तन में अकाल तख्त पर आकर बैठता हूँ।
The Father (S S S) is incorporeal. From where would He bring His throne (body)? The Father (S S S) says: THIS (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) IS My throne too. I come and take THIS THRONE (corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) on loan.
I come and sit on this IMMORTAL THRONE of the ORDINARY old body of Brahma (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani - declared DIRECTLY by GOD HIMSELF) !
(INSPITE of SEVERAL CLARIFICATIONS, the DoG and his BLIND, gullible followers ARROGANTLY OPPOSE & INSULT GOD persistently, by FALSELY propagating that the 'VEHICLE' of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, is NOT ORDINARY, and is not the ‘IMMORTAL THRONE’) !
View HERE - ABSOLUTE DEMONS, MORONS & ZOMBIES, INDEED!

‘Maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers ARE EVIDENTLY NOT AWARE –
1. that GOD (S S S) HIMSELF has declared above
2. that they are ACTUALLY MISINTERPRETING & MISREPRESENTING EVERY PURE VERSION of GOD in the SMs and AVs, DELUSIVELY ‘believing’ that they are ‘unearthing’ ‘deeper, subtler and unlimited’ meanings from such MISINTERPRETATIONS & MISREPRESENTATIONS! View HERE - Confluence Age ZOMBIES !
3. that they are DIS-REGARDING, DIS-RESPECTING and DIS-HONOURING GOD CONSISTENTLY by PERSISTENTLY IGNORING the clarifications of the Pure Versions of GOD, provided herein
4. that they are OPPOSING, INSULTING and DEFAMING GOD ‘SPITEFULLY’ by DELIBERATELY IGNORING the clarifications of the Pure Versions of GOD, provided herein
5. that they are ACTUALLY making efforts to re-establish themselves as ‘ASURS’ or ‘DEMONS’, (DELUSIVELY ‘TRICKED INTO BELIEVING’ they are making efforts to become DEITIES, by Ravan), since they ACTUALLY OPPOSE GOD and REFUTE his Pure, UNADULTERATED Versions in the SMs and AVs. View HERE - para 2.
6. that they are MOST DEFINITELY LIABLE for the SEVEREST PUNISHMENT within the Cycle, for such ‘CONDUCT’, as ORDAINED within the EWD, regardless of their ‘lack of awareness’ of same – PARTICULARLY when same is being brought to their notice, AGAIN and AGAIN, herein!
‘IGNORANCE’ of spiritual laws DOES NOT EXONERATE ANYONE from being ACCOUNTABLE and from being PUNISHED for UNRIGHTEOUS CONDUCT, even though ‘INNOCENTLY motivated'!
7. that they are, IN FACT, making VERY GOOD EFFORTS for their VERY OWN PUNISHMENT, by such UNRIGHTEOUS CONDUCT, even though ‘INNOCENTLY involved'!
View HERE - Spiritual 'suicide' by spiritual 'homicide' of GOD !

REASONS WHY ‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers ‘DELUSIVELY’ FEEL ‘JUSTIFIED’ FOR THEIR UNRIGHTEOUS CONDUCT –
1. they are DELUSIVELY ‘TRICKED INTO BELIEVING’ that the simple ‘declaration’ of GOD above, must have some other ‘deeper, subtler and unlimited’ meaning, which they would understand as they progress in their (DELUSIVE) study, and which they 'hope' would be clarified to 'THEIR' satisfaction by Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, through ‘maha-murkh’ V D D!
2. owing to the MAJOR SHIFT in their INTELLECTS from the TRUE SEED of Knowledge, (delivered by S S S, through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani), to the FALSE SEED of knowledge (propagated by Ravan, through the ‘mukrar-rath’, V D D), they DELUSIVELY CONVINCE their intellects that the ‘FALSE SEED’ is the ‘TRUE SEED’.
3. they STAUNCHLY, though DELUSIVELY, ‘believe’ that Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’ is ACTUALLY ‘ShivBaba’, and so have TOTALLY SURRENDERED their intellects – ‘tan, man, dhan & jan’ or ‘body, mind, wealth & relationships’ – to Ravan, DELUSIVELY ‘believing’ that they have, IN FACT, surrendered same to GOD! (THIS IS THE MOST AMUSING ASPECT OF DRAMA, INDEED) ! ! !
4. since they have developed absolute ‘faith’ in the (FALSE) knowledge of Ravan, DELUSIVELY ‘believing’ same to be the Pure Knowledge of S S S, they ‘believe’ they have the ‘authority’ to REFUTE the Pure Versions of GOD, BLATANTLY, RECKLESSLY and AGGRESSIVELY - DELUSIVELY ‘believing’ that they are, IN FACT, ‘ON Godly SERVICE’ – OGS – and NOT ‘REAL-EYEsing’ that they are ACTUALLY
‘ON GOONLY SERVICE’ – OGS – of Ravan,
MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’ or GOD !
They draw EQUAL POWER from the NEGATIVE ENERGY, Ravan - DELUSIVELY ‘believing’ Ravan to be GOD -
to 'inadvertently' OPPOSE, INSULT & DEFAME GOD; and ACT against GOD!
5. owing to their INVERTED INTELLECTS, they are NOT AWARE that the ‘so-called’ ‘deeper, subtler and unlimited’ COMPLETELY MISINTERPRETED meanings pertain to the UNLIMITED kingdom of Ravan or Ravan Rajya – C A and I A – as compared to the LIMITED (in terms of population) Kingdom of Ram (S S S), being re-established through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani!
6. owing to their INVERTED INTELLECTS, they are NOT AWARE that they are ACTUALLY MISINTERPRETING EVERY Pure Version of S S S in the SMs and AVs, by ‘INVERTING’ ‘limited’ or simple meanings to ‘unlimited’; and ‘unlimited’ or subtle meanings to ‘limited’! They clearly CANNOT DIFFERENTIATE the spiritual ‘mouth of the Cow’ from the spiritual ‘anus of the Bull’! View HERE - The Confluence Age 'seeds' of EVIL ! ! !
7. they collude with Ravan, (DELUSIVELY and STAUNCHLY ‘believing’ that Ravan is GOD), and then OPPOSE and INSULT GOD by REFUTING His ‘Shrimat’, (without ‘REAL-EYEsing’ they are, IN FACT, doing so), since they DELUSIVELY ‘believe’ that they have full protection of GOD, when, IN FACT, they are making VERY GOOD PREPARATIONS FOR THEIR VERY OWN PUNISHMENT!

In the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age, S S S is ‘Karankaravanhar’, and Ravan is also ‘Karankaravanhar’, EXCEPT that Ravan is NOT OPENLY projected as 'Ravan', but DELUSIVELY, DECEPTIVELY and DUBIOUSLY projected as GOD – and most PBKs, in particular, allow themselves to be COMPLETELY DECEIVED - HOOK, LINE & SINKER ! ! !
ALL, PERFECTLY AS PER DRAM PLAN, OF COURSE – NOTHING NEW !
When the PBKs refer to the ‘words’ of ‘THEIR’ ‘ShivBaba’, they are EVIDENTLY NOT AWARE that ‘THEIR’ ‘ShivBaba’ is NOT THE SAME as S S S! When the PBKs DELUSIVELY ‘believe’ that the 'words' (or ‘Kumat’) of 'THEIR' 'ShivBaba' are ‘proved’, they EVIDENTLY DO NOT 'REAL-EYEs' that the IMPORT of the 'words' or ‘Kumat’ of 'THEIR' 'ShivBaba' is DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSITE to the IMPORT of the WORDS or ‘Shrimat’ of S S S or GOD! In this sense, they are ‘RELATIVELY CORRECT’ when they declare that the 'words' or ‘Kumat’ of 'THEIR' 'ShivBaba' are ‘proved’, since they are, IN FACT, DELUSIVELY ‘proved’ for ‘THEIR OWN’ CORRUPTED, ADULTERATED, POLLUTED & INVERTED INTELLECTS - and this SATISFIES ‘THEM’!

From all that has TRANSPIRED so far, it has become VERY CLEAR, that their FALSE, APPARENT or RELATIVE ‘ShivBaba’ is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT from the TRUE, REAL or ABSOLUTE ShivBaba – S S S!
Therefore, the MISINTERPRETATIONS of Ravan, MASQUERADING as (FALSE) ‘ShivBaba’, can NEVER MATCH the PURE CLARIFICATIONS of TRUE ShivBaba or GOD!
One who CLEARLY APPRECIATES this SUBTLEST SECRET within Drama, will NEVER INDULGE in any DIRECT ‘debate’, 'discussion' or even a 'dialogue' with ANYONE who is TOTALLY naïve about same,
since it would BE AN ABSOLUTE WASTE OF TIME AND ENERGY!


“ There was a ‘DoG’ named ‘Rover’; And the ‘Story’ is ‘Over’ ! ”
There was a ‘DoG’ (V D D) named ‘Rover’ (Roving ‘Bhogi’ or ‘Trickster’, MASQUERADING as a devout ‘Yogi’)!
And the (UNRIGHTEOUS) ‘Story’ (of Ravan Rajya) is ‘Over’ (for the UNRIGHTEOUS followers, who are ANNIHILATED in the end)! ”
It is such a great WONDER that EVERY occurrence in Confluence Age is COMMEMORATED in SOME FORM or the OTHER, THROUGHOUT C A and I A, by way of Religious Scriptures, Devotional Memorials, Religious Practices, Folklore, Poems, Plays, Anecdotes, Proverbs, Idioms, Maxims, Adages, etc. !
PBKIVV Rev SM dated 28.04.2015 wrote: राम गयो रावण गयो... इसका भी अर्थ कितना सहज है। जरूर संगमयुग होगा जबकि राम का और रावण का परिवार है। यह भी जानते हो सब विनाश हो जायेंगे, बाकी थोड़े रहेंगे। कैसे तुमको राज्य मिलता है, वह भी थोड़ा आगे चल सब मालूम पड़ जायेगा। पहले से ही तो सब नहीं बतायेंगे ना। फिर वह तो खेल हो न सके। तुमको साक्षी हो देखना है। साक्षात्कार होते जायेंगे।
It is said, “When Rama went, Ravan also went.” The meaning of this is so simple! It MUST DEFINITELY also be at THIS Confluence Age that there are the FAMILIES of BOTH Rama and Ravan. You also know that everyone is to be destroyed and that only a very few will remain. As You continue to move along, You will come to know how You are to receive Your Kingdom. You would not be told everything at the start, would You? It wouldn’t be a ‘PLAY’ otherwise. You have to WATCH it as a DETACHED OBSERVER. YOU WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE VISIONS!
It MUST DEFINITELY also be at THIS Confluence Age (Confluence Age) that there are the FAMILIES of BOTH Rama (S S S, as ‘Karanhar’ – through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, instrumental to establish the Godly University, for re-establishing RamRajya) and Ravan(the ‘SHADOW’ of S S S, as ‘Karankaravanhar’, represented by ‘Shankar’ – through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, instrumental to establish the DoGly university, for re-establishing Ravan Rajya !

THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

With Eternal, Infinite, Imperishable Divine LOVE . . . In Loveful Remembrance of Supreme Soul Shiv,
Golden Heart

User avatar
arjun
PBK
Posts: 11592
Joined: 01 May 2006
Affinity to the BKWSU: PBK
Please give a short description of your interest in joining this forum.: To exchange views with past and present members of BKWSU and its splinter groups.
Location: India

Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by arjun » 29 Apr 2015

Thanks for such detailed warnings in such a polite language dear golden heart. :D

User avatar
Golden Heart
Supreme Spiritual Surgeon
Posts: 919
Joined: 29 Sep 2007
Affinity to the BKWSU: Supreme Spiritual Surgery
Please give a short description of your interest in joining this forum.: To facilitate realization of UNITY in DIVERSITY

TRUE 'Lucky Chariot' versus FALSE 'Lucky Chariot' !

Post by Golden Heart » 30 Apr 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
PBKIVV Rev SM dated 29.04.2015 wrote: यह पढ़ाई है ना। बुद्धि में यह याद रहे हम स्टूडेन्ट हैं, हमको भगवान पढ़ाते हैं। तो भी कितनी खुशी रहे। यह क्यों भूल जाता है! माया बड़ी प्रबल है, वह भुला देती है। स्कूल में सब स्टूडेन्ट्स पढ़ रहे हैं। सभी जानते हैं कि हमको भगवान पढ़ाते हैं . . .
THIS is a STUDY, is it not? If Your intellects remember that You are STUDENTS and that God (S S S) is TEACHING YOU (principal rulers of G A and S A), You will also have so much happiness! Why do you forget this? Maya IS VERY POWERFUL. SHE MAKES YOU FORGET EVEN THIS! All of you are students STUDYING in THIS ‘School’ (PBKIVV). ALL OF YOU KNOW THAT GOD IS TEACHING YOU . . . (through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani – in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘Akar’ to date)!
(Maya or Ravan, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, TRICKS the BLIND, gullible followers into DELUSIVELY ‘believing’ that GOD does not TEACH through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani)!

वह है पारलौकिक बाप, यह फिर है अलौकिक। इनको तुम सूक्ष्मवतन में भी देखते हो। फिर यहाँ भी देखते हो। लौकिक बाप तो यहाँ देखने में आता है, पारलौकिक बाप तो परलोक में ही देख सकते। यह फिर है अलौकिक वण्डरफुल बाप। इस अलौकिक बाप को समझने में ही मूँझते हैं।
He (S S S) is the ‘Parlokik’ Father and THIS ONE (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) is the ‘Alokik’ (Father). YOU ALSO SEE THIS ONE (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) IN the Subtle Region (the representative, symbolically COMPLETE form of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani himself – prior 1969 – in which S S S DOES NOT ENTER) and ALSO HERE (the ‘effort-maker’ ‘Sakar’ form on the corporeal sphere - prior 1969 – the ‘mukrar-rath’ of S S S, in which S S S DOES ENTER). A ‘lokik’ (corporeal) Father is only seen here in this world, whereas the ‘Parlokik’ (Spiritual) Father (S S S) is only seen in the WORLD BEYOND. THIS (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) is then the ‘Alokik’ (Subtle), WONDERFUL Father. People (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers, in particular) BECOME (TOTALLY) CONFUSED in trying to understand about THIS ‘Alokik’ Father (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani)!
(Maya or Ravan, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, TRICKS the BLIND, gullible followers into DELUSIVELY ‘believing’ that BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani is not the ‘Alokik’ Father)!

एक द्वारा बाप ने मत देना शुरू की फिर वृद्धि कितनी होती है। तो तुम बच्चों की बुद्धि में यह रहना चाहिए - हमको शिवबाबा पढ़ा रहे हैं।
The Father (S S S) started giving directions through THIS ONE. Then, there was so much expansion. Therefore, it should be in the intellects of You Children (principal rulers of G A and S A) that ShivBaba (S S S) is TEACHING You (through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani)!
(Maya or Ravan, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, TRICKS the BLIND, gullible followers into DELUSIVELY ‘believing’ that GOD does not TEACH through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani)!

तो बच्चों को मुख्य बात समझाते हैं - बुद्धि में यह याद रहे कि हम स्कूल में बैठे हैं। शिवबाबा इस रथ पर सवार हो आये हैं हमको पढ़ाने। यह भागीरथ है। बाप आयेंगे भी जरूर एक बार। भागीरथ का नाम क्या है, यह भी किसको पता नहीं है। यहाँ तुम बच्चे जब बाप के सम्मुख बैठते हो तो बुद्धि में याद रहे कि बाबा आया हुआ है - हमको सृष्टि चक्र का राज बता रहे हैं।
Therefore, the main thing that is explained to You Children is: Let your intellects remember that You ARE sitting in a ‘School’ (PBKIVV). ShivBaba (S S S) has come to TEACH US, whilst RIDING IN THIS Chariot (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). THIS ONE (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) is the "Lucky Chariot". The Father would also definitely only come once. No one (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers, in particular) knows the name of the (TRUE) "Lucky Chariot" (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). When You Children (principal rulers of G A and S A) sit here PERSONALLY in front of the Father (S S S), your intellects should remember that Baba (S S S) has come. He (S S S) is telling US (principal rulers of G A and S A) the secrets of the World Cycle.
“The Father would also definitely only come once” in Confluence Age, to play the roles of True Father, True Teacher as well as True Preceptor, and ONLY THROUGH ONE SINGULAR 'VEHICLE' of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani – in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘Akar’ to date !
View HERE - para 6.

Above Pure Versions were spoken by S S S through the corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, BEFORE 1969, EXCLUSIVELY for the ‘saput’, 'sagey', 'mateley' Children - principal rulers of G A and S A!
NO AMBIGUITY WHATSOEVER, as to WHO IS the REAL 'Lucky Chariot' !!!

Above versions of S S S, have been HIJACKED by the Defamer of God, AFTER 1969, to DELUSIVELY project himself as the (FALSE) 'Lucky Chariot', and CONFIRM his HiranyaKashyapHood!

THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

With Eternal, Infinite, Imperishable Divine LOVE . . . In Loveful Remembrance of Supreme Soul Shiv,
Golden Heart

User avatar
arjun
PBK
Posts: 11592
Joined: 01 May 2006
Affinity to the BKWSU: PBK
Please give a short description of your interest in joining this forum.: To exchange views with past and present members of BKWSU and its splinter groups.
Location: India

Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by arjun » 01 May 2015

golden heart wrote:THIS ONE (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) is the "Lucky Chariot
Can the Chariot which perished many decades before the end of the Confluence Age, before the world could be transformed, before the commencement of the Golden Age be called a lucky Chariot?????
“The Father would also definitely only come once” in Confluence Age, to play the roles of True Father, True Teacher as well as True Preceptor, and ONLY THROUGH ONE SINGULAR 'VEHICLE' of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani – in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘Akar’ to date !
If He comes only once through Lekhraj Kirpalani, then what about the role through Gulzar Dadi???? Once in Sakar and once in Aakaar cannot be called once. Moreover, Baba has clearly said that He does not come in Subtle Region dweller Brahma or in a virgin. And as regards Lekhraj Kirpalani, the Father's task was neither completed as a Father or as a teacher or as a sadguru. So, the part played through Lekhraj Kirpalani was not significant either. It is only the Chariot through which the complete transformation of the alokik Brahmin world as well as the outside world takes place that can be called the permanent (mukarrar) or lucky Chariot and the only Chariot.

User avatar
Golden Heart
Supreme Spiritual Surgeon
Posts: 919
Joined: 29 Sep 2007
Affinity to the BKWSU: Supreme Spiritual Surgery
Please give a short description of your interest in joining this forum.: To facilitate realization of UNITY in DIVERSITY

True Father, True Teacher and True Preceptor through BB-DLR

Post by Golden Heart » 01 May 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
PBKIVV Rev SM dated 30.04.2015 wrote: अभी तुम स्टूडेन्ट भी हो तो बच्चे भी हो। तुम जानते हो बेहद का बाप हम बच्चों को विश्व का मालिक बनाने के लिए आये हैं। उनके सामने हम बैठे हैं और हम राजयोग सीख रहे हैं . . .
बाप है ज्ञान का सागर, सुप्रीम रूहानी टीचर रूहों को बैठ पढ़ाते हैं। आत्मा इन शरीर रूपी कर्मेन्द्रियों द्वारा जानती है कि हम बाप से विश्व क्राउन प्रिन्स-प्रिन्सेज बनने के लिए पाठशाला में बैठे हैं।

AT PRESENT, (through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, ‘mukrar-rath’ of S S S, prior 1969) You (principal rulers of G A and S A) are STUDENTS, AS WELL AS CHILDREN (THEREFORE, S S S is the TEACHER as well as the Father – through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). You know that the unlimited Father (S S S) has come to make US Children into the Masters of the World. We ARE SITTING IN FRONT (through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, ‘mukrar-rath’ of S S S, prior 1969) of Him (S S S, through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) and STUDYING Raja Yoga . . .
The Father (S S S) is the Ocean of Knowledge. The Supreme Spiritual Teacher (S S S) SITS HERE (in the corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) and TEACHES You spirits (souls). You souls understand, through the senses of Your bodies, that You are sitting in this ‘Place of Study’ (PBKIVV) in order to become World Crown Princes and Princesses.
(Maya or Ravan, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, TRICKS the BLIND, gullible followers into DELUSIVELY ‘believing’ that GOD does not TEACH through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani)!

बेहद का बाप जो स्वर्ग का वर्सा देने आये हैं, वह हमारा बाप-टीचर-गुरू भी हैं तो जरूर वर्सा भी इतना ऊंच ते ऊंच देंगे।
The unlimited Father (S S S) has come to give us our inheritance of Heaven; He is our Father, Teacher and Guru. Therefore, He would definitely give the highest-on-high inheritance.
( “He is our Father, Teacher and Guru” - through the SAME ‘vehicle’ of His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani – in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘Akar’ to date – TILL HE TAKES ‘EVERYONE’ ACROSS – HE TAKES the SOULS ACROSS, and NOT BODIES ! ! ! )
View HERE - para 6.

कहते हैं देह सहित देह के सब सम्बन्धों से बुद्धि का त्याग करो। अपने को आत्मा निश्चय करो।
He (S S S) says: Your intellect must renounce ALL bodily relations (including ALL bodily ‘gurus’ - whether corporeal or subtle), including your own body. HAVE THE FAITH THAT YOU ARE A SOUL.
(Maya or Ravan, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, TRICKS the BLIND, gullible followers into DELUSIVELY ‘believing’ that they should remember GOD, INSIDE the body of their ‘maha-murkh’ bodily ‘guru’, V D D – The MOST TREACHEROUS TRAP of Ravan)!

सत बाप, सत टीचर, सतगुरू की निंदा कराने वाले ऊंच पद पा नहीं सकेंगे।
Those (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers, in particular) who cause defamation (by CORRUPTING, ADULTERATING, DISTORTING & INVERTING the Pure Versions in the SMs and AVs) of the True Father, the True Teacher and the True Preceptor can NEVER claim a high status.
(THEY ARE DOOMED TO ETERNAL PERDITIONthey claim the inheritance of Ravan Rajya) ! ! !

यह है बेहद की नॉलेज। जिन्होंने कल्प पहले पढ़ा है वही आकर पढ़ेंगे, वह भी साक्षात्कार होता रहता है। निश्चय हो जाए कि बेहद का बाप आये हैं, जिस भगवान से मिलने के लिए इतनी भक्ति की वह यहाँ आकर पढ़ा रहे हैं। ऐसे भगवान बाप से हम मुलाकात तो करें। कितना हुल्लास खुशी से भागकर आए मिलें, अगर पक्का निश्चय हो तो। ठगी की बात नहीं।
This is unlimited Kowledge. ONLY those (principal rulers of G A and S A) who studied in the previous Cycle will come and study again (from GOD or S S S, through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani – to re-establish RamRajya in G A and S A). You will also have visions of that. You should have the faith that the unlimited Father (S S S) has come; that God, whom we worshipped so much and longed to meet, has NOW come and is TEACHING US (through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani – in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘Akar’ to date)! We should at least meet that God, our Father. If you had this firm faith, you would come running to meet Him (through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani – in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘Akar’ to date) with so much happiness and enthusiasm. This is not a matter of CHEATING (like ‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers, in particular – who TREACHEROUSLY propagate that GOD is Teaching through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, V D D, when, IN FACT, they are receiving ‘Kumat’, ‘Mayavimat’ or ‘Ravanmat’, through the DoG, V D D – to re-establish Ravan Rajya in C A and I A) !

बाप समर्थ है, तो माया भी समर्थ है। आधाकल्प है राम का राज्य, आधा कल्प है रावण का राज्य। यह भी कोई नहीं जानते हैं।
The Father IS POWERFUL, and Maya TOO IS (EQUALLY) POWERFUL. For half the cycle (in the earlier ‘shooting’ period of RamRajya in Confluence Age, prior 1969), there is the Kingdom of Rama (re-established by S S S, as TRUE ‘ShivBaba’, through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani), and for the other half (in the later ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age, after 1969), there is the kingdom of Ravan (re-established by Ravan, as FALSE ‘ShivBaba’, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D). NO ONE KNOWS THIS EITHER (Hardly anyone - in BOTH the BK as well as the PBK Orgs - is AWARE of this DEEPEST and SUBTLEST SECRET within the EWD)!
Above Pure Versions were spoken by S S S through the corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, BEFORE 1969, EXCLUSIVELY for the ‘saput’, 'sagey', 'mateley' Children - principal rulers of G A and S A!
NO AMBIGUITY WHATSOEVER, as to who is the REAL 'mukrar-rath' of S S S, as the True Father, the True Teacher and the True Preceptor !!!

Above versions of S S S, have been HIJACKED by the Defamer of God, V D D, AFTER 1969, to FALSELY project himself as the 'mukrar-rath' of S S S, (when, IN FACT, he is the 'maha-murkh' 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan), and thereby CONFIRM his HiranyaKashyapHood!
PBKIVV Rev SM dated 29.04.2015 wrote: तो बच्चों को मुख्य बात समझाते हैं - बुद्धि में यह याद रहे कि हम स्कूल में बैठे हैं। शिवबाबा इस रथ पर सवार हो आये हैं हमको पढ़ाने। यह भागीरथ है। बाप आयेंगे भी जरूर एक बार। भागीरथ का नाम क्या है, यह भी किसको पता नहीं है। यहाँ तुम बच्चे जब बाप के सम्मुख बैठते हो तो बुद्धि में याद रहे कि बाबा आया हुआ है - हमको सृष्टि चक्र का राज बता रहे हैं।
Therefore, the main thing that is explained to You Children is: Let your intellects remember that You ARE sitting in a ‘School’ (PBKIVV). ShivBaba (S S S) has come to TEACH US, whilst RIDING IN THIS Chariot (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). THIS ONE (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) is the "Lucky Chariot". The Father would also definitely ONLY COME ONCE. No one (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers, in particular) knows the name of the (TRUE) "Lucky Chariot" (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). When You Children (principal rulers of G A and S A) sit here PERSONALLY in front of the Father (S S S), your intellects should remember that Baba (S S S) has come. He (S S S) is telling US (principal rulers of G A and S A) the secrets of the World Cycle.
“The Father would also definitely only come once” in Confluence Age, to play the roles of True Father, True Teacher as well as True Preceptor, and ONLY THROUGH ONE SINGULAR 'VEHICLE' of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani – in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘Akar’ to date !
View HERE - para 6.

GOD has VERY CLEARLY DECLARED in above Version that BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani is the "Lucky Chariot" and that He comes ONLY ONCE in Confluence Age – NO AMBIGUITY WHATSOEVER, as to WHO HAS DECLARED same! ‘Maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers are NOT EXPECTED to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND, as to what EXACTLY S S S means when He CLEARLY DECLARES that He comes ONLY ONCE, and that BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani is the "Lucky Chariot", due to their CORRUPTED, POLLUTED, IMPURE and INVERTED INTELLECTS – owing to which they will ARROGANTLY CONTINUE TO OPPOSE, INSULT & DEFAME GOD, and REFUTE His Pure Versions, thus CONFIRMING their ‘DEMON-HOOD’! NEITHER would they be able to comprehend any Pure CLARIFICATIONS given by ANYONE, about the TRUE INTENT of S S S with respect to above, due to the SEVERE ARROGANCE their Body-Consciousness, which in itself is the SEVEREST ‘DIS-EASE’ of the SOUL!
The DECLARATION made by GOD Himself in above Version is VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD and CLEAR! If anyone else would STILL, HONESTLY & HUMBLY, like any further Pure CLARIFICATIONS to any doubt, with respect to above, we would most definitely oblige!

THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

With Eternal, Infinite, Imperishable Divine LOVE . . . In Loveful Remembrance of Supreme Soul Shiv,
Golden Heart

User avatar
fluffy bunny
ex-BKWSU
Posts: 5365
Joined: 07 Apr 2006
Affinity to the BKWSU: ex-BK
Please give a short description of your interest in joining this forum.: ex-BK. Interested in historical revisionism, failed predictions and abuse within the BK movement.

Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by fluffy bunny » 01 May 2015

You are pretty ignorant and rude to ignore polite questions put to you GH.

Why won't you speak to us like a normal human being?

User avatar
arjun
PBK
Posts: 11592
Joined: 01 May 2006
Affinity to the BKWSU: PBK
Please give a short description of your interest in joining this forum.: To exchange views with past and present members of BKWSU and its splinter groups.
Location: India

Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by arjun » 02 May 2015

Above Pure Versions were spoken by S S S through the corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, BEFORE 1969, EXCLUSIVELY for the ‘saput’, 'sagey', 'mateley' Children - principal rulers of G A and S A!
NO AMBIGUITY WHATSOEVER, as to who is the REAL 'mukrar-rath' of S S S, as the True Father, the True Teacher and the True Preceptor !!!
If the words spoken through Lekhraj Kirpalani before 1969 were exclusively for saput, sagey (real/own/worthy) children, then are all those who became BKs after 1969 kaput, lagey (false/alien/unworthy) children? What about those BKs who took knowledge through Lekhraj Kirpalani and left the knowledge to fall into the trap of vices before 1969? Will they also be called saput just because they came before 1969?? Does God make such discrimination between those recognizing Him before 1969 and after 1969?

User avatar
Golden Heart
Supreme Spiritual Surgeon
Posts: 919
Joined: 29 Sep 2007
Affinity to the BKWSU: Supreme Spiritual Surgery
Please give a short description of your interest in joining this forum.: To facilitate realization of UNITY in DIVERSITY

Confluence Age DEMONS (maha-murkh asurs), INDEED !

Post by Golden Heart » 02 May 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,

"बहुत बच्चे साधारण रूप देख मूँझते हैं, उल्टा बोलने लग पड़ते हैं। अच्छे-अच्छे बच्चे उनको भी माया चमाट मार देती है। समझते हैं - बस जो कुछ है निराकार ही है। सो तो ठीक है ना। निराकार नहीं होता तो हम तुम कैसे होते। परन्तु निराकार को तो रथ जरूर चाहिए ना। रथ बिगर क्या करेंगे, शिवबाबा क्या करेगा? रथ में आये तब तो तुम उनसे मिलेंगे। तुम्हीं से सुनूँ, तुम्ही से बैठूँ। तो रथ जरूर चाहिए ना। अच्छा साकार बिगर निराकार को याद कर दिखाओ। क्या तुमको ज्ञान प्रेरणा से मिलेगा? फिर मेरे पास आये ही क्यों हो? यह बाबा भी कहता है कि वर्सा तो शिवबाबा से लेना है। शिवबाबा कहते हैं मैं इस साधारण तन में बैठ पढ़ाता हूँ। पढ़ाई तो जरूर चाहिए ना। बहुत अच्छे-अच्छे बच्चों का माथा ही फिर जाता है। दो चार सेन्टर खोलते तो बस अहंकार आ जाता है। फिर उल्टा बोलते रहते हैं। फिर कभी बुद्धि में आ भी जाता है कि यह हमने ठीक नहीं कहा, फिर पश्चात्ताप करते हैं। बाबा कहते हैं मैं साकार बिगर कैसे समझाऊंगा। इसमें प्रेरणा की तो बात ही नहीं।" (ब्रह्माकुमारियों द्वारा प्रकाशित रिवाइज़्ड साकार मुरली तारीख 22.09.07, पृष्ठ 2&3)

“MANY CHILDREN (like the DoG and his gullible followers) get CONFUSED on seeing the ORDINARY form
(of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani); they start speaking in an OPPOSITE way (OPPOSER of GOD, and Defamer of God – DoG – being the chief instrument to DERIDE, DEFAME, MOCK, OPPOSE and INSULT GOD - gullibly aped by his ‘maha-murkh’ STUPID and FOOLISH followers) . . .
But the incorporeal one certainly requires a Chariot, doesn’t He? What can He do without a Chariot?
What can ShivBaba (S S S) do? Only when He comes in a Chariot (of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) that you can meet Him (through the SAME ‘vehicle’ of His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani – in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘Akar’ to date –
TILL HE TAKES ‘EVERYONE’ ACROSS – HE TAKES the SOULS ACROSS, and NOT BODIES ! ! ! )
. . .
ShivBaba says I sit in THIS (EES) ORDINARY body (of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) and TEACH. Knowledge is certainly required, isn’t it? The brains of very nice children (like the DoG and his gullible followers) get TWISTED (INVERTED by the DoG) . . .
Baba says how will I explain without the corporeal (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani)? There is no question of inspiration (of bodily gurus, like V D D) in this, AT ALL !!!” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 22.09.07, pg 2&3 published by BKs)

Although, the gullible followers of the DoG, carry the PURE Versions of S S S on the ‘BACK’ of their CORRUPTED intellects, like DONKEYS, THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING AT ALL, in the RIGHT PERSPECTIVE !!!
BKWSU Rev SM dated 26.11.2014 wrote: Why do people (PBKs, in particular - in the 'shooting' period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age) study the (TRUE) Gita (SMs and AVs) so much? THEY DON’T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING AT ALL! THEY (the DoG and his gullible followers) JUST TAKE UP A FEW CHAPTERS (random Versions in SMs and AVs) AND EXTRACT THEIR OWN MEANING FROM THEM ! All of that is created by human beings (the DoG and his gullible followers - DELUSIVELY claiming same to be the 'Murlis' or Versions of GOD)!
View HERE - Classical Opposing Viewpoints–12 by Golden Heart 15 Oct 2014

View HERE - Classical Opposing Viewpoints–11 by Golden Heart 12 Oct 2014

View HERE - Confluence Age MORONS (maha-murkh asurs) by Golden Heart 31 Jan 2015

By CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY OPPOSING, INSULTING & DEFAMING S S S, and REFUTING the Pure Versions of GOD, the CONFIRMED DEMONS - (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers, in particular) - NOT ONLY LETHALY HARM THEMSELVES, BUT ALSO KEEP ON SPREADING, SPEWING & PROPAGATING the POISON of Reversed Advance knowledge PROLIFICALLY, to LETHALY HARM AS MANY OTHER SOULS AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN – THUS VOLUNTARILY CONDEMNING THEMSELVES TO ETERNAL PERDITION ! ! !
WHAT’s MORE, DUE to their INVERTED INTELLECTS, they DELUSIVELY CONSIDER ANYONE who is CAUTIONING them of their current status - USING MOST APPROPRIATE TERMINOLOGY which BEST 'SUITS' THEM, according to their current PRACTICAL ACTIVITY - to be using ‘filthy’ language, when, IN FACT, their VERY OWN ‘INTELLECTS & ACTIONS’ ARE BEING PROVED TO BE EXTREMELY ‘DIRTY & FILTHY’ and 'LETHALLY POISONOUS', AS PER the Pure Versions of S S S, being HIGHLIGHTED herein ! ! !

THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

With Eternal, Infinite, Imperishable Divine LOVE . . . In Loveful Remembrance of Supreme Soul Shiv,
Golden Heart

User avatar
arjun
PBK
Posts: 11592
Joined: 01 May 2006
Affinity to the BKWSU: PBK
Please give a short description of your interest in joining this forum.: To exchange views with past and present members of BKWSU and its splinter groups.
Location: India

Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya

Post by arjun » 03 May 2015

Thanks for repeating your kind words dear golden heart. :cool:

User avatar
Golden Heart
Supreme Spiritual Surgeon
Posts: 919
Joined: 29 Sep 2007
Affinity to the BKWSU: Supreme Spiritual Surgery
Please give a short description of your interest in joining this forum.: To facilitate realization of UNITY in DIVERSITY

‘REAL Meeting' with S S S, after 1969 !

Post by Golden Heart » 04 May 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
PBKIVV AV dated 28.11.1979 – Rev 03.05.2015 wrote: बाप तो एक सेकेण्ड में आप को उड़ाकर वतन में ले जायेंगे, बाप वतन से आकार में आते हैं, आप साकार से आकार में आओ। मिलने के स्थान पर तो पहुँचो। स्थान भी तो ऐसा बढ़िया चाहिए ना! सूक्ष्म वतन आकारी वतन मिलने का स्थान है। समय भी फिक्स है, अपायन्टमेन्ट भी है, स्थान भी फिक्स है,फिर क्यों नहीं मिलन होता? सिर्फ गलती क्या करते हो कि मिट्टी के साथ वहाँ आना चाहते हो। यह देह मिट्टी है। जब मिट्टी का काम करना है तब करो। लेकिन मिलने के समय इस देह के भान को छोड़ना पड़े। जो बाप की ड्रेस वह आपकी ड्रेस होनी चाहिए। समान होना चाहिए ना! जैसे बाप निराकार से आकारी वस्त्र धारण करते हैं। आकारी और निराकारी बाप-दादा बन जाते हैं - आप भी आकारी फरिश्ता ड्रेस पहन कर आओ। चमकीली ड्रेस पहन कर आओ तब मिलन होगा। ड्रेस पहनना नहीं आता है क्या? ड्रेस पहनो और पहुँच जाओ, यह ऐसी ड्रेस है जो माया के वाटर या फायर प्रूफ है। इस पुरानी दुनिया के वृत्ति और वायब्रेशन प्रूफ है। इतनी बढ़िया ड्रेस आपको दी है फिर वह अपायन्टमेन्ट के टाइम पर भी नहीं पहनते। पुरानी ड्रेस से ज्यादा प्रीत है क्या? जब दोनों समान चमकीली ड्रेस वाले होंगे और चमकीले वतन में होंगे तब अच्छा लगेगा। एक पुरानी ड्रेस वाला और एक चमकीली ड्रेस वाला, जोड़ी मिल नहीं सकती, इसलिए अनुभव नहीं होता। पुराने वायब्रेशन्स इन्टरफियर कर देते हैं इसलिए आपसी रूह-रूहान का रेसपान्स नहीं मिलता है। क्लीयर समझ में नहीं आता इसलिए औरों का अल्पकाल का सहारा लेना पड़ता है।
वैसे यह मियाँ बीबी का नाता इतना स्नेही और समीप का है जो इशारे से भी समझ लें। इशारे से भी सूक्ष्म संकल्प में ही समझ लें। यह ऐसा प्रीत का नाता है। फिर बीच में तीसरे को क्यों डालते हो? तीसरे को डालना अर्थात् अपनी एनर्जी और टाइम को वेस्ट करना।


The Father (BapDada – S S S & BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani COMBINED) can make you fly to the 'incorporeal world' (after you come to the Subtle Region), WITHIN A SECOND. The Father (S S S) comes from the 'incorporeal world' into the 'Subtle Region', and so you too can come from the 'corporeal world' to the 'Subtle Region'. At least REACH THE VENUE OF THE MEETING ! The venue also has to be beautiful. The Subtle Region, the angelic region, is the (REAL) MEETING PLACE (the ‘momentary’ meeting through any 'corporeal vehicle', AFTER 1969, is MAINLY for PRELIMINARY ‘INTRODUCTORY & PREPARATORY’ purposes – mostly for the benefit of the ‘new’ souls, who keep coming with the passage of time). The time (ANYTIME) for you is fixed; you’ve made the appointment; the venue is fixed (Subtle Region in SUBTLE CONSCIOUSNESS); so then why does the meeting not take place? The only mistake you make is that you want to go there with the (consciousness of) clay (of the corporeal vehicle). This (corporeal) body is clay. When you have to work with your clay (corporeal body), then do so! However, at the time of the (REAL) Meeting, you have to renounce the consciousness of your (corporeal) body and put on the same dress as the Father’s. They have to be the same. From being incorporeal, the Father (S S S) adopts an angelic costume (of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) – BapDada (then) become ‘the angelic and the incorporeal’ TOGETHER. You too have to put on your angelic dress and come there. Only when you wear your shining dress will the (REAL) Meeting take place. Do you not know how to put on this dress? As soon as you put on this dress, you can reach there. This dress is waterproof and fireproof against any form of Maya (in particular, the TREACHEROUS DECEPTIONS of the DoG, and his BLIND, gullible followers). It has also been made proof against the attitudes and vibrations of this old world. You have been given such a beautiful dress, and yet you don’t put it on when you have your appointment (ANYTIME)! Do you love your old dress (corporeal body) more? It looks very nice if both are wearing a shining dress when you are in the region of light. If one is wearing an old dress and the other is wearing a shining dress, THE COUPLE IS NOT MATCHING, AND THIS IS WHY YOU DO NOT HAVE AN EXPERIENCE. The old vibrations interfere and this is why you don’t receive any response to your heart-to-heart conversation.
IT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO UNDERSTAND CLEARLY, THAT YOU TAKE SOME TEMPORARY SUPPORT OF OTHERS (like ‘maha-murkh’ bodily ‘guru’, V D D - and his CONSORTS & COHORTS)!
In fact, this relationship of Husband (BapDada – S S S & BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) and wife (individual soul – the TRUE LOVER) should be so close and loving that YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING JUST THROUGH SIGNALS ('angelic stage' - subtle consciousness). EVEN MORE SUBTLE THAN SIGNALS, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND ONE ANOTHER THROUGH YOUR THOUGHTS ('seed stage' - soul-consciousness).
This is such a relationship of love! Then, why do you allow a 'third person' to come between you? To allow a third person (like ‘maha-murkh’ bodily ‘guru’, V D D) to interfere means TO WASTE YOUR TIME AND ENERGY (which most PBKs, in particular, have been doing ever since they got TRAPPED by Ravan through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D) !
Prior 1969, when ‘concerned’ souls were in a ‘body-conscious’ stage, the ‘REAL’ Meeting with S S S took place through His ‘mukrar-rath’ - the CORPROEAL vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani.
After 1969, when ‘concerned’ souls develop a ‘subtle stage’ or ‘angelic stage’, the ‘REAL’ Meeting with S S S takes place through His SAME ‘mukrar-rath’ - the SUBTLE vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, to date ! ! !
Those who are unable to develop a subtle or angelic stage (and FINALLY, the 'seed stage'), and continue to remain in body-consciousness, get TRAPPED by Ravan, and are DELUSIVELY made to ‘believe’ that they can have a ‘Meeting’ with S S S through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, through the corporeal vehicle of ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, MASQUERADING as personified ‘ShivBaba’!

S S S can MAKE NO ‘DISCRIMINATIONS’, since He too is bound by the ‘LAWS’ governing this ETERNAL WORLD DRAMA PLAY! As per EWD, when S S S comes to give His introduction to souls on the corporeal sphere through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani in ‘Sakar’ - OBVIOUSLY, FIRST OF ALL, the ruler souls of G A will come to meet Him - FOLLOWED BY the ruler souls of S A, who would only come later on! Only the ‘saput’, 'sagey', 'mateley' Children - principal rulers of G A and S A – would ‘RE-cognize’ S S S ACCURATELY and make concerted efforts to develop a ‘subtle stage’, so that they can CONTINUE to experience a ‘REAL’ Meeting with S S S, even when BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani becomes ‘Avyakt’, after 1969! The remaining souls, (whether they come in the Knowledge BEFORE or AFTER 1969), who are NOT ABLE TO ACCURATELY COMPREHEND AND FOLLOW THE PURE Shrimat of S S S, (and who are not able to develop a subtle or angelic stage, to be able to CONTINUE receiving sustenance from S S S through the SUBTLE vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, to date), and who remain in a ‘body-conscious’ stage, are the ‘kaput’, 'lagey', 'soteley' Children, who get TRAPPED by Ravan, through one bodily ‘guru’ or the other – whether corporeal or subtle – and are the principal rulers of C A and I A, who can only claim the INHERITANCE of Ravan Rajya!

THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

With Eternal, Infinite, Imperishable Divine LOVE . . . In Loveful Remembrance of Supreme Soul Shiv,
Golden Heart

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests