Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya

Post by arjun » 09 May 2015

golden heart wrote:In the outer world today, there are many souls who readily ‘blow themselves up with explosives’, in the name of God, STAUNCHLY, but DELUSIVELY 'believing’ that they are going to Heaven – and their number is INCREASING DAY BY DAY! The ‘fact’ that the number of DEMONS are increasing day by day DOES NOT IMPLY that they are proceeding on the RIGHTEOUS PATH!
On the path of Bhakti it is shown that the Kauravas or demons were in majority and the deities or Pandavas were in minority. Here, in the Confluence Age, the BKs are in majority and the PBKs are in minority and have been facing their physical and verbal abuse from the beginning. Even on this forum some BK members including golden heart have shown the extent of that physical abuse. So, it is crystal clear as to who is what.

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The FALSE 'Pandavs' of Confluence Age !

Post by Golden Heart » 10 May 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
PBKIVV AV dated 22.04.1984 wrote: "Today, the spiritual Father (S S S) has come to meet His spiritual Children" . . . !
View HERE - PBKIVV at Mt Abu - a Godly University as well as a Home ! by Golden Heart » 06 May 2015

Instead of focusing on the Pure Versions of S S S being highlighted herein, and ‘RE-Cognising’ that GOD Himself has spoken above Version through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, in ‘Avyakt’, using the instrumental corporeal vehicle of DG - the DoG, and his BLIND, gullible followers BLATANTLY CONTINUE to INSULT, DEFAME and MOCK GOD at EVERY STEP, 'SEEMINGLY' UNAWARE that they are ACTUALLY DOING SO, at their VERY OWN PERIL!
Even a five-year-old child, with a PURE intellect, would easily comprehend above Version in the RIGHT perspective!
View HERE - The 'DEMONS' should simply be ignored ! by Golden Heart » 08 May 2015

Instead of FOCUSING their ATTENTION on the PURE Versions of S S S, being highlighted in these posts, and 'REAL-EYEsing' that they are being taken for a 'HOLY RIDE' by Ravan, the gullible followers of the Defamer of God DELIBERATELY CREATE a distraction by referring to the ‘malpractices’ in the BK Org, WITHOUT ‘REAL-EYEsing’ that they are, IN FACT, HIGH-LIGHTING their VERY OWN 'malpractices' INHERENT within THEMSELVES in the ‘seed’ form - which are then ‘reflected’ in the BK Org in a ‘subtle’ form, and the outer ‘broad’ Drama in a ‘gross’ form!
These ASPECTS have ALREADY been CLARIFIED in various posts in this thread earlier - ALL of which remain beyond the COMPREHENSION of the concerned ‘maha-murkh’ PBKs - ALL, PERFECTLY, AS PER DRAMA PLAN, OF COURSE - NOTHING NEW !
View HERE - ACCURATE REMEMBRANCE OF S S S ! by Golden Heart » 08 Apr 2015

IT HAS ALREADY BEEN CLARIFIED SEVERAL TIMES, THAT ALL THE MALPRACTICES, MISREPRESENTATIONS & MISINTERPRETATIONS, ORIGINATING & PREVAILING IN AIVV or PBKs on a 'seed level', are THEN reflected in PBKIVV or BKWSU or BKs on a 'subtle level', and the outer World of Ravan Rajya on a 'gross level'.
But this is evidently BEYOND the COMPREHENSION of some 'maha-murkh' PBKs, owing to the 'POVERTY' of their intellects, which is quite understandable, since they are currently operating at LESS THAN 8 celestial degrees of Purity! NO BLAME CAN BE APPORTIONED TO THEM in this regard!
'SEEDS' are few & small, 'ROOTS' are several and large, and the 'BRANCHES' are numerous and huge!
View HERE - The Confluence Age 'seeds' of EVIL ! ! ! by Golden Heart » 13 Apr 2015

It is becoming INCREASINGLY CLEAR that many principal ruler souls & religious leaders (kauravs) of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, on a GROSS level, are presently being sustained by many souls (kauravs) in the BK Org, on a SUBTLE level; and many souls (kauravs) in the PBK Org, on a SEED level - the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan in Confluence Age being the Defamer of God, V D D!
The 'Brahmin top-knots’ or 'scalps' of Ravan represent the PBK ‘kauravs’, the 'faces' of Ravan represent the BK ‘kauravs’ - in the 'shooting' period of Ravan Rajya, after 1969 - and the 'body' of Ravan represents most principal ruler souls & religious leaders (kauravs) of the outer World of Ravan Rajya! In another sense, the 'sanskars' of Ravan are represented by the ‘collective’ PBK ‘kauravs’, the 'intellect' of Ravan by the ‘collective’ BK ‘kauravs’, and the 'mind' of Ravan by the many ‘collective’ principal ruler souls of various States (kauravs) & many ‘collective’ religious heads of various Orgs (kauravs) of the outer World of Ravan Rajya!
View HERE - Confluence Age spiritual 'BLUFFERS', 'FLUFFERS' & 'DUFFERS' ! by Golden Heart » 25 Feb 2015

From ALL ABOVE POSTS, IT SHOULD BE ABSOLUTELY CRYSTAL CLEAR – even to souls with 'average' intellects – that the ‘SEEDS’ of the DEMONS, (V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers), are OBVIOUSLY going to be in the ‘MINORITY’; whereas the ‘ROOTS’ of these VERY SAME DEMONS, (in the BK Org), are going to be in the ‘MAJORITY’; and the ‘BRANCHES’ of these VERY SAME DEMONS, (in the outer World), are going to be ‘extensively NUMEROUS’!
Ravan or Maya, as usual, VERY DECEPTIVELY & TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS ‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers, into DELUSIVELY 'believing' that the ‘MINORITY SEEDS of DEMONS’ (V D D and most PBKs, in particular) represent (Ravan’s) ‘Pandavs’, and the ‘MAJORITY ROOTS of DEMONS’ represent (Ravan’s) ‘Kauravs’, in order to provide the necessary ‘BOOST’ and motivation to the ‘MINORITY SEEDS of DEMONS’, (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers), to continue to propagate the POISON of Reversed Advance knowledge with sustained ‘zeal & enthusiasm’! ! !
WHAT A MAGNIFICENTLY MAJESTIC, MELODRAMATIC & MESMERIZING DRAMA, INDEED ! ! !

This, ONCE AGAIN, ONLY SERVES to PROVE, to WHAT EXTENT the INTELLECTS of these MORONS & DEMONS have become DEGRADED!
THESE DEMONS SHOULD SIMPLY BE IGNORED!

HAVE THE GREATEST POSSIBLE MERCY ON THEM !
FORGIVE THEM – FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY SPEAK AND WHAT THEY DO ! ! !


THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

With Eternal, Infinite, Imperishable Divine LOVE . . . In Loveful Remembrance of Supreme Soul Shiv,
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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya

Post by fluffy bunny » 10 May 2015

Golden Heart ... you say in your membership summary, "Please give a short description of your interest in joining this forum: To facilitate realization of UNITY in DIVERSITY".

How exactly do you think you will achieve to "facilitate the realization of UNITY in DIVERSITY" by hurling abuse and insults at others, who are being astonishingly tolerant and compassionate towards your eccentricities?

In English, we describe "someone who ignores" as ignorant. It's the meaning of the word from the French 'ignorer'.

Will you ignore us again with your next post and just hurl more abuse?

Even I find it difficult to repeat your words time and time again.

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya

Post by sita » 11 May 2015

IT HAS ALREADY BEEN CLARIFIED SEVERAL TIMES, THAT ALL THE MALPRACTICES, MISREPRESENTATIONS & MISINTERPRETATIONS, ORIGINATING & PREVAILING IN AIVV or PBKs on a 'seed level', are THEN reflected in PBKIVV or BKWSU or BKs on a 'subtle level', and the outer World of Ravan Rajya on a 'gross level'.
But this is evidently BEYOND the COMPREHENSION of some 'maha-murkh' PBKs,
Maybe some cannot comprehend it, but mostly they do, since it is a fundamental statement in the PBK philosophy. You have also picked it up and understood it, so why not the PBKs, are they more stupid than you?

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya

Post by arjun » 11 May 2015

golden heart wrote:IT HAS ALREADY BEEN CLARIFIED SEVERAL TIMES, THAT ALL THE MALPRACTICES, MISREPRESENTATIONS & MISINTERPRETATIONS, ORIGINATING & PREVAILING IN AIVV or PBKs on a 'seed level', are THEN reflected in PBKIVV or BKWSU or BKs on a 'subtle level', and the outer World of Ravan Rajya on a 'gross level'.
But this is evidently BEYOND the COMPREHENSION of some 'maha-murkh' PBKs, owing to the 'POVERTY' of their intellects, which is quite understandable, since they are currently operating at LESS THAN 8 celestial degrees of Purity! NO BLAME CAN BE APPORTIONED TO THEM in this regard!
'SEEDS' are few & small, 'ROOTS' are several and large, and the 'BRANCHES' are numerous and huge!
Thanks for accepting in your own words that PBKs are the seeds or ancestors of the whole world and BKs are the roots that have been born from the seeds. If PBKs are the seeds then the seed of the entire humanity, i.e. Prajapita Brahma must also be from AIVV only. And wherever Prajapita Brahma is present Shiv would also be present with him.

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya

Post by fluffy bunny » 11 May 2015

Unfortunately, lowly BKs like Golden Heart and so misinformed and misguided by their BKWSU leaders that it is very difficult for them to come to any conclusions.

All they do is repeat again and again and again the same brainwash to try and make it more real. It is called, "acceptance through repetition".

It's not real, it's not true, it's not even understandable ... it's just accepted because it has been said and heard 10,000s times. It's accepted as if it is true.

There's an element within the human psyche that is comfortable with what it already knows and uncomfortable at having to make adjustments when confronted with new, challenging views or acounts. e.g. see the BKWSU *still* pumping out its false history.

Lies become truths and truths become lies ...

I am not a believer, per se, but according to BKism, they say already deceased BKs come back in their next life either to re-join the BKWSU, join the "Advance Party ... or something else. No one can really tell.

From the real history of the BKWSU that we have found out, there were other individuals and factions within the community, differences of opinion, there have been BKs who have had good and bad experiences of the BKWSU. It makes sense enough that might return to the same basic lifestyle and beliefs ... but take on a reforming or even challenging position if you accept traditional beliefs about reincarnation.

Golden Heart advertises themselves as "reforming or unifying" ... I'd like to know how on earth they can claim that!?!

Lies become truths and truths become lies ...the BKs are an upside down world that their egos disallowing them from seeing. They think the rest of the world/PBKs are the ones who are upside down ... but it is them.

Now the BKs are spreading confusing rumours and lies about the existence of the Sevakram character and exclude discussion and documentation of the early history and other factions/mediums that might in any way support the PBK theory, even in the West. Even to and through academics.

Lies become truths and truths become lies ... for the BKs, "truth" means 'the accept and acceptable lie. The meaning of the word has been twisted.

It's very tiresome having to unpick it all the time and try to point it out to such individuals whose souls have been twisted and inverted by them.

It's also a very terrible spiritual crime on behalf of the BKWSU leadership to do so ... so no wonder they accuse others of the very same crime as a way of distracting from themselves and their own very clear actions.

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The absolute power of 'IGNORANCE' within EWD !

Post by Golden Heart » 11 May 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,

AS COMPREHENSIVELY CLARIFIED IN EARLIER POSTS, most of the PBKs, in particular, are the SPECIFIC
'seeds' of EVIL, (of the World, in general – and of the BKs, in particular)!
So, when most of the PBKs, in particular, are the 'seeds' of EVIL, then OBVIOUSLY the 'PRINCIPAL Seed of EVIL' within Humanity, (i.e. FALSE 'Prajapita Brahma', 'maha-murkh' V D D), has to be MOST DEFINITELY present with these 'maha-murkh' PBKs, who are ACTUALLY RKs (Ravan Kumars & Ravan Kumaris). And OBVIOUSLY where there is FALSE 'Prajapita' (MASQUERADING as the REAL Prajapita), FALSE Shiv, i.e. Ravan, (MASQUERADING as REAL Shiv) will MOST NATURALLY be with him - the DoG, MASQUERADING as GOD - by establishing the DoGly University, AIVV, to CHALLENGE the Godly UNIVERSITY, PBKIVV!
View HERE - The Confluence Age 'seeds' of EVIL ! ! ! by Golden Heart » 13 Apr 2015

Just as GOOD, only takes the form of EVIL, (in particular, in C A and I A); so also, PURE INTELLIGENCE, only takes the form of STUPIDITY. In the ABSOLUTE sense, there is no such thing as ‘DARKNESS’, which is only the ‘APPARITION’ of the absence of adequate ‘LIGHT’! Similarly, in the ABSOLUTE sense, there is no such thing as ‘EVIL’ or ‘STUPIDITY’, which again are only the ‘APPARITIONS’ of the absence of adequate ‘GOODNESS’ or ‘PURE INTELLIGENCE’! These ‘apparitions’ are ‘considered’ to be ‘Maya’ - the NEGATIVE ENERGY of ‘Ravan’, ‘Satan’, ‘Lucifer’ or ‘Devil’, which achieves a POTENCY of COLOSSAL DIMENSIONS by the end of I A, and has the EQUAL POTENTIAL to CHALLENGE GOD or the POSITIVE ENERGY of GOODNESS - EQUALLY -
as ordained within this EWD!

The NEGATIVE ENERGY, personified as ‘Ravan’, is NO LESS INTELLIGENT & NO LESS POWERFUL than the POSITIVE ENERGY, represented by GOD! Therefore, ‘Ravan’, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of V D D, is NO LESS INTELLIGENT than GOD, EXCEPT that ‘Ravan’ utilises this 'IMPURE INTELLIGENCE' of equal quantum, to OPPOSE GOD – BY CLANDESTINELY PROJECTING ‘Ravan’ as 'personified' GOD!
‘Ravan’, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of V D D, is only ‘CONSIDERED’ ‘STUPID’ because of the peculiar MESMERIZING ability, afforded to Ravan within the EWD, to 'SURREPTITIOUSLY & SUCCESSFULLY' DECEIVE concerned souls to DELUSIVELY ‘BELIEVE’ that they are following GOD, when, IN ACTUAL FACT, they are following ‘Ravan’ ! ! !
View HERE - The 'MESMERIZING' influence of 'Ravan' ! by Golden Heart » 21 Apr 2015

ALL THESE ASPECTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADEQUATELY HIGHLIGHTED EARLIER!
Evidently, their apparent ‘STUPIDITY’ is reflected in their inability to APPROPRIATELY APPRECIATE the highlighted aspects HOLISTICALLY; and their apparent ‘STUPIDITY’ is further compounded by their IMPULSIVE REACTIONS to FRAGMENTED or SEGMENTED portions ONLY, COMPLETELY IGNORING the HOLISTIC and SUBTLER SIGNIFICANCE of the highlighted aspects in their WHOLENESS, thus 'COMPELLING' them to keep moving around IGNORANTLY in the same 'CIRCLES', again and again, COMPLETELY UNAWARE that they are actually doing so - owing to their ABSOLUTE ARROGANCE and COMPLETE 'IGNORANCE' !
THIS is ONE of the MOST AMUSING ASPECT of this EWD play ! ! !
PBKIVV AV dated 22.04.1984 wrote: "Today, the spiritual Father (S S S) has come to meet His spiritual Children" . . . !
View HERE - PBKIVV at Mt Abu - a Godly University as well as a Home ! by Golden Heart » 06 May 2015

It is very easy to comprehend that the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, and his BLIND, gullible followers are the SPECIFIC 'seeds' of EVIL, since they are CLEARLY NOT ABLE to COMPREHEND the Pure Versions of God in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE - as per CLEAR, INFALLIBLE PROOF above!

Instead of focusing on the Pure Versions of S S S being highlighted herein, and ‘RE-Cognising’ that GOD Himself has spoken above Version through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, in ‘Avyakt’, using the instrumental corporeal vehicle of DG - the DoG, and his BLIND, gullible followers BLATANTLY CONTINUE to INSULT, DEFAME and MOCK GOD at EVERY STEP - at their VERY OWN PERIL - 'SEEMINGLY' UNAWARE that they are ACTUALLY DOING SO !
Even a five-year-old child, with a PURE intellect, would easily comprehend above Version in the RIGHT perspective, without any DOUBT, WHATSOEVER!
Evidently, their ‘STUPIDITY’ is further AUGMENTED, by their DELUSIVE ‘COMPULSION’ to PERSISTENTLY IGNORE the Pure Versions of GOD, (being highlighted herein, AGAIN and AGAIN, in their proper perspective), and are therefore considered to be TOTALLY IGNORANT - or VIPs (VERY INNOCENT/IGNORANT PERSONS) - by GOD - who simply have to be IGNORED ! In order to maintain one’s sanity and prevent one’s pure energy from getting tainted, the best solution would be to simply IGNORE these so-called ‘VIPs’, since there are APPROPRIATE MEASURES within the EWD to ADEQUATELY DEAL with them in the REQUIRED MANNER at the APPROPRIATE TIME, at the VERY end of Confluence Age ! ! !
It is but NATURAL that they would ‘perceive’ others as having ‘inverted intellects’, owing to their OWN INVERTED VISION, since they themselves are ‘locked’ into the DELUSIVE AWARENESS of their VERY OWN INVERTED INTELLECTS - TOTALLY UNAWARE of same ! ! ! Therefore, in addition to being simply IGNORANT, as highlighted above, they are ALSO ‘IGNORANT’ that they are, IN FACT, IGNORANT!
SUCH is the VERY POWERFUL INFLUENCE of Maya or Ravan on the human psyche, within this EWD play!

HAVE THE GREATEST POSSIBLE MERCY ON THEM !
FORGIVE THEM – FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY SPEAK AND WHAT THEY DO ! ! !


THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya

Post by fluffy bunny » 11 May 2015

You don't even read the replies to your posts, do you?

This is all just attention seeking, is not it?

Can you actually discuss things with others ... or do you just talk at people like this all day?

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya

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We are Ravan, so he fights us.

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by arjun » 12 May 2015

golden heart wrote:The NEGATIVE ENERGY, personified as ‘Ravan’, is NO LESS INTELLIGENT & NO LESS POWERFUL than the POSITIVE ENERGY, represented by GOD! Therefore, ‘Ravan’, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of V D D, is NO LESS INTELLIGENT than GOD, EXCEPT that ‘Ravan’ utilises this 'IMPURE INTELLIGENCE' of equal quantum, to OPPOSE GOD – BY CLANDESTINELY PROJECTING ‘Ravan’ as 'personified' GOD!

‘Ravan’, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of V D D, is only ‘CONSIDERED’ ‘STUPID’ because of the peculiar MESMERIZING ability, afforded to Ravan within the EWD, to 'SURREPTITIOUSLY & SUCCESSFULLY' DECEIVE concerned souls to DELUSIVELY ‘BELIEVE’ that they are following GOD, when, IN ACTUAL FACT, they are following ‘Ravan’ ! ! !
It is evident from the sizes, shapes, colours, tone and tenor of the words being written by golden heart that who is displaying negative energy and who is displaying positive energy. Sister Shivani keeps on lecturing on positive and negative energy day and night on the TV and in various programmes. I wish she could come and see here what energy golden heart is spreading as a BK. I think golden heart will not listen to anyone other than Sister Shivani or any Dadi. It is only after they certify that her words are negative that she will at least believe. Changing the words is a latter proposition.

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The GOOD SEED and TARES in the Field of Knowledge !

Post by Golden Heart » 13 May 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
PBKIVV AV dated 22.04.1984 wrote: "Today, the spiritual Father (S S S) has come to meet His spiritual Children" . . . !
View HERE - PBKIVV at Mt Abu - a Godly University as well as a Home ! by Golden Heart » 06 May 2015

It is very easy to comprehend that the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, and his BLIND, gullible followers are the Specific 'SEEDS' of EVIL, since they are CLEARLY NOT ABLE to COMPREHEND the Pure Versions of God in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE - as per CLEAR, INFALLIBLE PROOF above!
Bible – New Testament – KJV - Matthew Ch 11 V-25 to V-30: wrote: 25 At that time, Jesus answered and said: I thank Thee, O Father (S S S) , Lord of Heaven and Earth, because Thou hast HID THESE THINGS from the ‘wise and prudent’ (the ABSOLUTELY ARROGANT Children, who ‘THINK’ they are MORE CLEVER than GOD – like V D D, and his BLIND, gullible followers), and hast revealed them unto babes (GOD’s INNOCENT and HUMBLE Children). 26 Even so, Father - for so it seemed good in Thy sight. 27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father; and NO MAN (ARROGANT Children, who are body-conscious) knoweth the Son (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani – ACCURATELY), but the Father (S S S); neither knoweth ANY MAN (ARROGANT Children, who are body-conscious) the Father (S S S – ACCURATELY), save the Son (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani), and he (the RIGHTEOUS Children), to whomsoever the Son (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) will reveal Him (S S S)!
28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you REST. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am MEEK AND LOWLY in HEART: and ye shall find REST unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Do they EVEN BOTHER to ‘READ’ a SINGLE SENTENCE spoken by GOD HIMSELF, with any degree of HONESTY and SINCERITY, as per AV Version above, for their VERY OWN BENEFIT???

Do they EVEN CARE to ‘UNDERSTAND’ what GOD is saying to them, out of the GREATEST COMPASSION & BENEVOLENCE, in HIS COMPASSIONATE HEART, for ENTIRE HUMANITY, for their VERY OWN UPLIFTMENT???

Even IF they do indeed ‘READ’ a SINGLE SENTENCE ONE MILLION TIMES OR MORE, would they EVER be in a position to CORRECTLY ‘PERCEIVE’ the TRUE ‘IMPORT’ of GOD’s DIVINE WORDS???

Can they EVER COMPREHEND that they CAN NEVER HOPE to CORRECTLY ‘PERCEIVE’ the TRUE ‘IMPORT’ of GOD’s DIVINE WORDS, owing to their ABSOLUTE ARROGANCE???

Can they EVER ‘REAL-EYEs’ that it is their VERY OWN ABSOLUTE ARROGANCE, which is PREVENTING THEM from TRULY ‘RE-Cognising’ GOD, and COMPREHENDING HIS Pure Versions in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, as per HIS TRUE, ORIGINAL, PURE INTENT???

Can they EVER ‘REAL-EYEs’ that Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as GOD, is ACTUALLY taking them for a 'HOLY RIDE', and has DIVORCED them from GOD, WITHOUT they being ACTUALLY AWARE of same???

Would they EVER ‘UNDERSTAND’ that it is ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS, and a PURE WASTE of TIME and ENERGY, to ‘discuss’ matters about GOD with those who have VOLUNTARILY CHOSEN the path of PROSTITUTION and WHOREDOM, and have NO CONCERN with GOD???

Can they EVER UNDERSTAND that highlighting the MODUS OPERANDI of Ravan or Maya, is for their VERY OWN BENEFIT, and not for the purpose of COMBATING THEM???

Can they EVER COMPREHEND that simple CLARIFICATIONS about the ‘NEGATIVE ENERGY’ are SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED to PROTECT them from the ‘NEGATIVE ENERGY’, and ASSIST THEM to FREE THEMSELVES from the SEVERE CLUTCHES of such ‘NEGATIVE ENERGY’, and NOT FOR empowering the ‘NEGATIVE ENERGY’ further, as DELUSIVELY INFERRED by them??????????
Bible – New Testament – KJV - Matthew Ch 13 V-24 to V-30: wrote: 24 Another ‘parable’ put he forth unto them, saying: The Kingdom of Heaven (G A and S A) is likened unto a Man (S S S, through His ‘mukrar-rath’ Adam, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani – prior 1969) who sowed GOOD SEED in His FIELD. 25 But while the men slept (came under the influence of body-consciousness), His ENEMY (Ravan, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D – after 1969) came and sowed TARES (POISON of Reversed Advance knowledge) among the WHEAT (Pure Versions of S S S), and went his way. 26 But when the blade (of GOOD SEED) was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then APPEARED the TARES (of EVIL SEED) also (in the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age). 27 So the servants (Saput, Sagey, Mateley Children) of the Householder came and said unto Him: Master, didst not Thou sow GOOD SEED in thy Field? From whence then hath it TARES? 28 He said unto them: An ENEMY (Ravan, through 'maha-murkh' V D D) hath done this. The servants said unto Him: Wilt Thou then that we go and gather them up? 29 But He said: Nay; lest while ye gather up the TARES, ye root up also the WHEAT with them. 30 Let BOTH grow together UNTIL THE HARVEST (the VERY END of Confluence Age); and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers (Saput, Sagey, Mateley Children – principal rulers of G A and S A) : Gather ye together first the TARES (Kaput, Lagey, Soteley Children – principal rulers of Ravan Rajya – 'maha-murkh' V D D, and most PBKs, in particular – the UNRIGHTEOUS Children), and bind them in bundles to BURN THEM; but gather the WHEAT (the RIGHTEOUS Children) into My BARN (to receive their inheritance of Sovereignty in G A and S A) ! ! !
HAVE THE GREATEST POSSIBLE MERCY ON THEM !
FORGIVE THEM – FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY SPEAK AND WHAT THEY DO ! ! !


THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by sita » 13 May 2015

Would they EVER ‘UNDERSTAND’ that it is ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS, and a PURE WASTE of TIME and ENERGY, to ‘discuss’ matters about GOD with those who have VOLUNTARILY CHOSEN the path of PROSTITUTION and WHOREDOM, and have NO CONCERN with GOD???
This is why Golden heart does not talk to us. Whatever he writes here is not meant for us, but to make people aware about us.

He thinks we are arrogant, but in what is this arrogance? Is it that the PBKs think they learn from GOD? Such arrogance is common to many. There are many gods now. From what he writes, Golden heart seems to think he understands the Godly versions in their pure intent. I think this is arrogance. BKs complain PBKs are targeting them, but he is targeting us.

He makes a fundamental mistake perceiving certain souls as lost cases.The reality is all souls are impure and ignorant to a certain extent and all are in the hands of Maya/Ravan. It is ignorance, arrogance and irresponsible to think you are not and to project an illusionary difference between me the pure/elevated/wise/true one against you the impure/degraded/stupid/false one. All souls have some truth in them, all souls become pure.

Golden heart, have mercy on us. Give us a chance to also change and elevate ourselves. But this is not possible as long as BKs think about themselves in such a way and in their self-respect they occupy the only legitimate throne of the right to teach the whole world a lesson on morale, to create heaven on earth and to be the pure and good ones to wage a war against vices around, not the vices within.

The difference between BKs and PBKs is that BKs think they are great and the rest are degraded and PBKs think all are degraded and only one is great and I think this is more humble.

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by arjun » 13 May 2015

golden heart wrote:Gather ye together first the TARES (Kaput, Lagey, Soteley Children – principal rulers of Ravan Rajya – 'maha-murkh' V D D, and most PBKs, in particular – the UNRIGHTEOUS Children), and bind them in bundles to BURN THEM;
What a golden heart you have dear golden heart!!!! You want to burn us PBKs alive!!!! Such are your views on internet. I can only imagine what you would do to us if we happen to meet in person!!!!

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by fluffy bunny » 13 May 2015

sita wrote:This is why Golden heart does not talk to us. Whatever he writes here is not meant for us, but to make people aware about us.
Wow ... I missed the " PROSTITUTION and WHOREDOM" accusation. I am still dealing with the ******* eating zombies and Virendra Dev Dixit's anus references.

I've never met a BK who speaks like this.

I find it difficult to believe that their centre-in-charge is encouraging or allowing them to post in such a manner.

Whatever they are attempting, their practise is counter productive and damaging to the BKs ... which is why I wonder if they are part of another jealous splinter group who don't care about the BKs either.

It's also why the likes of yourself and Arjun are winning this discussing ... because your darna is good and you refuse to sink to their level.

Of course, we will never get a straight answer about who they are from him.

My concern is they are also attempting to discredit discussion about the Yagya History because the BKWSU wants to keep it covered up.

By posting in the manner in which they are, they will put nearly all BKs off exploring the true history.

Looking at the beginning of this topic, wondering where it all started, it appears to have be called many things previous, or been made up of a number of different topics.

I suggest it is changed again so as no to mislead and offend others.

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GOD & Ravan, masquerading as GOD !

Post by Golden Heart » 14 May 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
PBKIVV AV dated 22.04.1984 wrote: "Today, the spiritual Father (S S S) has come to meet His spiritual Children" . . . !
View HERE - PBKIVV at Mt Abu - a Godly University as well as a Home ! by Golden Heart » 06 May 2015

It is very easy to comprehend that the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, and his BLIND, gullible followers are the Specific 'SEEDS' of EVIL, since they are CLEARLY NOT ABLE to COMPREHEND the Pure Versions of God in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE - as per CLEAR, INFALLIBLE PROOF above!
View HERE - The GOOD SEED and TARES in the Field of Knowledge ! by Golden Heart » 13 May 2015
Bible – New Testament – KJV - Matthew Ch 13 V-30 : wrote: 30 Let BOTH grow together UNTIL THE HARVEST (the VERY END of Confluence Age); and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers (Saput, Sagey, Mateley Children – principal rulers of G A and S A) : Gather ye together first the TARES (Kaput, Lagey, Soteley Children – principal rulers of Ravan Rajya – 'maha-murkh' V D D, and most PBKs, in particular – the UNRIGHTEOUS Children), and bind them in bundles to BURN THEM; but gather the WHEAT (the RIGHTEOUS Children) into My BARN (to receive their inheritance of Sovereignty in G A and S A) ! ! !
Here, ‘to BURN THEM’ means to FINALLY ‘BURN’ or MERGE their ‘Sanskars’ of Ravan Rajya, to enable them to play their allotted roles in RamRajya! Although this pertains EXCLUSIVELY to SOULS, the actual ‘burning’ of impure corporeal vehicles, for FINAL purificatory purposes, is also ordained within the EWD!
Whenever confronted with a Pure Version of S S S, which they cannot readily perceive to be conforming with their CORRUPTED IDEOLOGY, and hence are UNABLE to ADDRESS APPROPRIATELY, the Chief Bluffer on the forum, in particular, IMMEDIATELY & FRANTICALLY ‘tugs’ at the ‘pantie’ of either the BKs or the Chief Fluffer on the forum, for DESPERATE assistance, to ‘VIGOROUSLY seek & FURTIVELY hurl’ any ‘ available STONE’, which they feel, in accordance with their INVERTED INTELLECTS, would hurt the sentiments of ANYONE, endeavouring to CLARIFY the Pure Versions of S S S in their CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, TOTALLY UNAWARE that they are only PROVING their RANK STUPIDITY by such DESULTORY CONDUCT, and EXPOSING the EXTREME PUTRIDITY of their VERY OWN ‘SELVES’!

" Whatever he writes here is not meant for us, but to make people aware about us."
These CLARIFICATIONS are, most DEFINITELY, NOT MEANT for those, who are EITHER fully in the ‘Light’ or fully in the ‘Darkness’, but ONLY for those who are in the TWILIGHT ZONE!
Those who are fully in the ‘Light’ would obviously KNOW, without the SLIGHTEST DOUBT WHATSOEVER, that BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani ALONE is the ‘mukrar-rath’ of S S S, and NOTHING CAN EVER ‘SHAKE’ their TRUE FAITH, and they DO NOT NEED these CLARIFICATIONS – PERIOD !
Those who are fully in the ‘Darkness’ would also obviously ‘THINK’ they ‘KNOW’, ‘DELUSIVELY believing’ they have no DOUBT WHATSOEVER, that V D D is the ‘mukrar-rath’ of S S S, (although, in ACTUAL FACT, V D D is the ‘maha-murkh’ ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as personified S S S) and NOTHING CAN EVER ‘SHAKE’ their ‘BLIND’ FAITH, and hence they too DO NOT NEED these CLARIFICATIONS – PERIOD !
Those who are still in the TWILIGHT ZONE would need to know the CORRECT PICTURE, to enable them to make the desired CHOICE, in accordance with their ‘governing proclivities’!
Hence, as already advised and duly CAUTIONED, SEVERAL TIMES EARLIER, only those who are genuinely interested may read these posts. All others are, ONCE AGAIN, humbly requested to REFRAIN from even reading these posts, and not to unduly interfere with the progress of these posts, unless they have a genuine interest to really comprehend the subtlest intricacies of this EWD! Genuine queries, made with due regard and humility, would most definitely be addressed, as judiciously as feasible! No one should feel unduly COMPELLED to make undue comments, just for the sake of making some comment or the other, with one form of OBSESSION or the other!
Those who are fully in the ‘Darkness’ would obviously find these CLARIFICATIONS ‘REVOLTING’, hence in their OWN INTERESTS, they should REFRAIN from even reading these posts, to prevent them from feeling COMPELLED to unduly pass UNSOLICITED comments, which are NEITHER USEFUL to them, NOR TO ANYONE ELSE - in this PARTICULAR THREAD!
The forum is so structured as to enable any individual, with any ideology, to project one’s individual views independently, without undue interference and hindrance from others!

" He thinks we are arrogant, but in what is this arrogance? Is it that the PBKs think they learn from GOD ? "
Their ‘arrogance’ lies in DELIBERATELY DODGING to ‘perceive’ the Pure Versions of S S S in their CORRECT PERSPECTIVE - as highlighted in AV, above! Their ‘arrogance’ lies in STILL continuing to DELUSIVELY ‘believe’ they are ‘learning’ from GOD, when it is being CLEARLY DEMONSTRATED to them IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, AGAIN and AGAIN, by CLARIFYING innumerable Pure Versions of GOD, that they are, IN FACT, ‘learning’ from Ravan, MASQUERADING as GOD!
Their 'arrogance' DOES NOT HURT GOD, or GH, or others -
IT IS LETHALLY DAMAGING TO THEMSELVES !


" From what he writes, GH seems to think he understands the Godly versions in their pure intent. I think this is arrogance."
PURE ‘ARROGANCE’ is HUMILITY! It is not a question of what a particular embodied soul ‘thinks’, in accordance with any degree of body-consciousness, but a DEFINITE QUESTION of SINCERELY ENDEAVOURING to 'RE-VIEW and RE-CONSIDER' what GOD has ACTUALLY MEANT by HIS Pure Versions, in the PUREST SENSE, PARTICULARLY when one comes to the EVENTUAL ‘REAL-EYEsation’ that there is GOD on ONE SIDE - and Ravan, MASQUERADING AS GOD, on the OTHER SIDE - in this EWD play!

" BKs complain PBKs are targeting them, but he is targeting us."
The PBK knowledge is ENTIRELY BASED on the MALA FIDE CRITICISM of the BK knowledge, CLANDESTINELY & FRAUDULENTLY propagated as ‘CLARIFICATIONS’ of BK knowledge; and is a PARASITE of BK Knowledge, TOTALLY INCAPABLE of SURVIVING INDEPENDENTLY, WITHOUT PERSISTENT MALA FIDE CRITICISM of BK Knowledge, which is the PRIMARY SOURCE of SUSTENANCE of this VORACIOUS PARASITE!
Therefore, as per the Law of Karma, “AS YOU SOW, SO SHALL YOU REAP”!
“IF YOU SOW THE WIND, YOU SHALL SURELY REAP THE WHIRLWIND”!
The PURE INTENT of the CLARIFICATIONS is motivated by ABSOLUTE COMPASSION and BENEVOLENCE for ENTIRE HUMANITY. Those who ‘consider’ they are being TARGETED, feel so on account of their OWN distorted PERCEPTION, owing to which they render themselves VULNERABLE to the experience of ‘PAIN’, which is NOT INTENDED AT ALL !

" He makes a fundamental mistake perceiving certain souls as lost cases.The reality is all souls are impure and ignorant to a certain extent and all are in the hands of Maya/Ravan."
ALL souls DO NOT EXPERIENCE the SOVEREIGNTY of G A and S A; the others are RELATIVELY ‘CONSIDERED’ as ‘lost’; and this must be understood in the proper perspective, and not misconstrued!
Since ALL souls are impure and require purification, it is ALL the MORE IMPERATIVE that :
1. GOD is CORRECTLY ‘RE-Cognised’
2. Ravan, MASQUERADING as GOD, is CORRECTLY ‘RE-Cognised’

" It is ignorance, arrogance and irresponsible to think you are not, and to project an illusionary difference between me, the pure/elevated/wise/true one, against you, the impure/degraded/stupid/false one."
This entire EWD play is based on OPPOSITES! UNLESS DIFFERENCES ARE HIGHLIGHTED, ‘RE-Cognised’ and APPRECIATED, there is ABSOLUTELY NO SCOPE of BRIDGING THEM!
Both IGNORANCE and ARROGANCE TRAP souls in ISOLATED ‘DIFFERENCES’; whereas, TRUE Knowledge and HUMILITY FREE souls from these ISOLATED ‘DIFFERENCES’!
S S S CLEARLY DIFFERENTIATES BETWEEN RIGHTEOUS and UNRIGHTEOUS Children, AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN – NOT to CONDEMN the Children, but to bring them to a certain DEFINITE BENEVOLENT ‘REAL-EYEsation’ ! ! !

" All souls have some truth in them, all souls become pure."
ALL souls become pure, but are still NUMBER-WISE!
Since ALL souls require purification, it is ALL the MORE IMPERATIVE that :
1. GOD is CORRECTLY ‘RE-Cognised’
2. Ravan, MASQUERADING as GOD, is CORRECTLY ‘RE-Cognised’

" GH, have mercy on us. Give us a chance to also change and elevate ourselves."
The ONLY MERCY which GOD has the potential to provide, is the dissemination of PURE Knowledge to Humanity, and the CLARIFICATIONS of same through instrumental souls! Thereafter, the individual souls MUST have MERCY on THEMSELVES, and SEIZE the OPPORTUNITY to CHANGE and ELEVATE THEMSELVES, by ‘REAL-EYEsing’ the ACTUAL TRUTH - before it is TOO LATE ! ! !
GOD has the POWER to HELP ONLY THOSE who HELP THEMSELVES !

" But this is not possible as long as BKs think about themselves in such a way, and in their self-respect they occupy the only legitimate throne of the right to teach the whole world a lesson on morale, to create heaven on earth, and to be the pure and good ones to wage a war against vices around, not the vices within."
“ I am Alpha and I am Omega! I am the BEGINNING, the MIDDLE and the END of ALL BEINGS and ALL SYSTEMS of THINGS! NOTHING that is NOT WITHIN ME, can EVER EXIST ‘without’ ME; and ANYTHING that is ‘without’ ME, must ESSENTIALLY EXIST WITHIN ME ” !
How would it be possible to ELIMINATE the VICES ‘without’, by FIRST ELIMINATING the VICES WITHIN, IF :
1. GOD is NOT CORRECTLY ‘RE-Cognised’ ?
2. Ravan, MASQUERADING as GOD, is NOT CORRECTLY ‘RE-Cognised’ ?

" The difference between BKs and PBKs is that BKs think they are great and the rest are degraded and PBKs think all are degraded and only one is great and I think this is more humble."
ALL must eventually ‘RE-Cognise’ that ONLY ONE is GREAT – S S S – who is the MOST HUMBLE and the MOST BENEVOLENT!
But Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, MASQUERADES as S S S, and DELUSIVELY makes the PBKs ‘believe’ that ONLY ONE (Ravan, masquerading as S S S) is GREAT; and so what would be their DESTINATION, in such a case ??????????
Bible – New Testament – KJV - Luke Ch 15 V-11 to V-32: wrote: 11 And he said: A certain man had two sons;
12 And the younger of them said to his Father: Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And the Father divided unto them his 'living'.
13 And not many days after, the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance, with riotous living.
14 And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.
15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country, who sent him into his fields, to feed swine.
16 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat; and no man gave unto him.
17 And when he came to himself (‘REAL-EYEsed’ - PRIDE GOES BEFORE A FALL), he said to himself: How many hired servants of my Father's have bread enough, and to spare, and I perish with hunger!
18 I will arise and go to my Father, and will say unto him: Father, I have sinned against Heaven, and before thee,
19 And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.
20 And he arose, and came to his Father. But when he was yet a great way off, HIS Father SAW HIM, and had COMPASSION, and RAN, and FELL ON HIS NECK, and KISSED HIM.
21 And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against Heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son.
22 But the Father said to his servants: Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet;
23 And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry;
24 FOR THIS, MY SON WAS DEAD, and IS ALIVE AGAIN; HE WAS LOST, and IS FOUND! And they began to be merry.
25 Now his elder son was in the field; and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard music and dancing.
26 And he called one of the servants, and asked what these things meant.
27 And he said unto him: Thy brother is come; and thy Father hath killed the fatted calf, because he hath received him safe and sound.
28 And he was angry, and would not go in; therefore came his Father out, and entreated him.
29 And he, answering, said to his Father: Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment; and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends;
30 But as soon as this thy son was come, WHICH HATH DEVOURED THY 'LIVING' WITH HARLOTS (PROSTITUTION & WHOREDOM), thou hast killed for him the fatted calf.
31 And the Father said unto him: Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine.
32 It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad; FOR THIS THY BROTHER WAS 'DEAD' (a ZOMBIE), and IS ALIVE AGAIN; and WAS LOST, and IS FOUND!
IT IS STILL NOT TOO LATE TO 'REAL-EYEs' and MAKE AMENDS ! ! !

HAVE THE GREATEST POSSIBLE MERCY ON THEM !
FORGIVE THEM – FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY SPEAK AND WHAT THEY DO ! ! !


THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

With Eternal, Infinite, Imperishable Divine LOVE . . . In Loveful Remembrance of Supreme Soul Shiv,
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