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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by arjun » 14 May 2015

golden heart wrote:" BKs complain PBKs are targeting them, but he is targeting us."
The PBK knowledge is ENTIRELY BASED on the MALA FIDE CRITICISM of the BK knowledge, CLANDESTINELY & FRAUDULENTLY propagated as ‘CLARIFICATIONS’ of BK knowledge; and is a PARASITE of BK Knowledge, TOTALLY INCAPABLE of SURVIVING INDEPENDENTLY, WITHOUT PERSISTENT MALA FIDE CRITICISM of BK Knowledge, which is the PRIMARY SOURCE of SUSTENANCE of this VORACIOUS PARASITE!
If PBKs giving Godly message to the BKs renders them as parasites, then why do the BKs go to the Hindu temples to search for new recruits???? Are they not being the same parasites that they accuse us of being??????

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by fluffy bunny » 15 May 2015

arjun wrote:If PBKs giving Godly message to the BKs renders them as parasites, then why do the BKs go to the Hindu temples to search for new recruits???? Are they not being the same parasites that they accuse us of being??????
Logically ... by the BKs' own values and philosophy ... it would make them a parasite feeding off lower life forms (bhagats are seen by BKs as below themselves).

Lekhraj Kirpalani used to encourage BK to target not just temples but even exploit family's grief at funerals and graveyards/cremations.

Interesting ... that makes me wonder what the 'metaphorical' meaning for graveyards/cremations etc is.

Sadly, I've accept attempting discussion with Golden Heart is useless and pointless. This is just attention seeking for them. We should not encourage them.

I am upset though because it has nothing to do with the "Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History". That's just another BK deception.

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The REAL PARASITES of Confluence Age, at the 'SEED' level !

Post by Golden Heart » 16 May 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
PBKIVV AV dated 22.04.1984 wrote: "Today, the spiritual Father (S S S) has come to meet His spiritual Children" . . . !
View HERE - PBKIVV at Mt Abu - a Godly University as well as a Home ! by Golden Heart » 06 May 2015

It is very easy to comprehend that the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, and his BLIND, gullible followers are the Specific 'SEEDS' of EVIL, since they are CLEARLY NOT ABLE to COMPREHEND the Pure Versions of God in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE - as per CLEAR, INFALLIBLE PROOF above!
View HERE - The GOOD SEED and TARES in the Field of Knowledge ! by Golden Heart » 13 May 2015

Since they are UNABLE to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND the Pure Versions of S S S in their TRUE PERSPECTIVE, owing to their CORRUPTED & INVERTED INTELLECTS, they would ALSO be UNABLE to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND the ACCURATE CLARIFICATIONS of the Pure Versions of S S S, being provided herein, as a result of which they would CONTINUE to persistently pose IRRELEVANT, INCONSISTENT and INCOMPETENT questions, thus FURTHER COMPOUNDING the issues; and any further CLARIFICATIONS of such questions would invite ONLY FURTHER IRRELEVANT QUESTIONS - ‘ad infinitum’! The ENTIRE balance of Confluence Age would thus be ‘CONSUMED’ in being INVOLVED, ONLY with this FUTILE ‘MERRY-GO-ROUND’, achieving NOTHING REALLY FRUITFUL, from any SPIRITUAL PERSPECTIVE!

This is INDEED a CLEVER PLOY of Ravan or Maya, to keep souls TRAPPED in the VICIOUS GRIP of body-consciousness; which is the DECEPTIVE INTENT of Ravan, MASQUERADING as S S S, ACTIVELY INVOLVED in this very ENDEAVOUR in Confluence Age, after 1969, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ (fixed Chariot) of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ (greatest Idiot) V D D, by way of the ‘vartalap’ or Chit-Chat sessions, which, in addition, are also desgined to PLUNDER and LOOT the poor, unsuspecting souls to the MAXIMUM POSSIBLE EXTENT, DELUSIVELY TRICKING them into ‘believing’ that they are ‘meeting’ God, when, in ACTUAL FACT, they are only being COMPREHENSIVELY FLEECED by the ‘personified’ DEVIL HIMSELF!

This is EXACTLY the reason why S S S SPECIFICALLY discourages RIGHTEOUS Children from entering into any form of DISCUSSION, ARGUMENT, DEBATE or DELIBERATION with such UNRIGHTEOUS Children, lest they too get inadvertently, inexorably & irrevocably drawn into the quagmire of this TREACHEROUS BOG!

The BKs act SOLELY on the INJUNCTION of S S S, through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, instrumental to establish the Godly University, PBKIVV, to give the Godly Knowledge to POTENTIAL souls, particularly in places of worship of Shiva and L & N - as per SPECIFIC DIRECTIVE of S S S - for the EXCLUSIVE BENEFIT of CONCERNED souls! This ACT of GOD is ‘designated’ as a ‘CREATIVE’ ACT of GOD – (through ‘Brahma’) !
During this process, both the RIGHTEOUS as well as UNRIGHTEOUS Children get ATTRACTED to the Knowledge - which further CALLS for a process which would eventually segregate the UNRIGHTEOUS Children from the RIGHTEOUS Children, so that the RIGHTEOUS Children may CONTINUE to PROGRESS, unhindered and unobstructed by the direct NEGATIVE influence of the UNRIGHTEOUS Children, in direct contact with them!

The PBKs act SOLELY on the INJUNCTION of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, instrumental to establish the DoGly University, AIVV, to give the DoGly knowledge to POTENTIAL souls - particularly to EXISTING BKs - as per SPECIFIC DIRECTIVE of Ravan, through ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, to the EXCLUSIVE ‘DETRIMENT’ of CONCERNED souls!
This 'INDIRECT' ACT of GOD is ‘designated’ as a ‘DESTRUCTIVE’ ACT of GOD – (through ‘Shankar’) !
During this process, the UNRIGHTEOUS Children are segregated from the RIGHTEOUS Children, by ADMINISTERING the ‘POISON’ of Reversed Advance knowledge, which has the POTENTIAL to EVENTUALLY NEUTRALIZE the ‘POISON’ within the ‘Sanskars’ of these SPECIFIC souls, which they are UNABLE to neutralize through the normal process of PURE, UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE of ONE S S S ALONE, owing to their existing EXTREME body-consciousness, which is further augmented by the TREACHEROUS DIRECTIVE of Ravan to remember God through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED to COMPLETELY TRAP these souls in body-consciousness, even FURTHER ! ! !
During this process, they will NOT HESITATE to surreptitiously COLLABORATE with any other souls - who are involved with IGNORING and REFUTING the Versions of God, (provided to Humanity through His chosen, fixed Chariot, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani), and who ‘devote’ their ‘life’ to actively DERIDE and DEFAME them, in accordance with their chosen ‘mission’ of PROSTITUTION & WHOREDOM - and COLLUDE with them to promote their own DEMONIAC mission!

The concept of being a PARASITE is not related to the ACT of PROPAGATION of either Pure Knowledge by BKs, or the CORRUPTED knowledge (POISON) by PBKs; but to the FACT that the PBKs almost ENTIRELY depend on the SMs and AVs, ORIGINALLY provided to the BKs by S S S, which they UNLAWFULLY PLUNDER & LOOT from the BKs, to RE-generate and propagate their CORRUPTED, ADULTERATED, DISTORTED, REVERTED & INVERTED knowledge to TRAP souls in body-consciousness, DELUSIVELY making them ‘believe’ that they are being freed from body-conscoiusness!
The REAL PARASITES of Confluence Age, at the 'SEED' level, are OBVIOUSLY 'maha-murkh' V D D and his BLIND, gullible followers!
PBKIVV Rev SM dated 14.05.2015 wrote: सोमनाथ मन्दिर से कितना धन लूटकर ले गये।
So much ‘WEALTH’ was ‘LOOTED’ from the ‘Somnath Temple’.
Classical Opposing Viewpoints – 6 by Golden Heart » 24 Sep 2014 wrote: This is indicative of the ‘shooting’ of V D D (MG). MG raided, assaulted and raped; and then looted the Somnath Temple; whereas, V D D performed the ‘shooting’ of this act at P Centre, where Sr V was in charge, and looted the SMs (wealth of K of Supreme Soul Shiva), UNLAWFULLY. By UNLAWFULLY LOOTING the SMs in this manner, he invoked the curse of becoming instrumental to COMPLETELY TWIST THOSE PURE VERSIONS of Supreme Soul Shiva, and be the CHIEF INSTRUMENT to establish Ravan Rajya – to be clarified further, later.
View HERE - Classical Opposing Viewpoints – 6 by Golden Heart » 24 Sep 2014
Classical Opposing Viewpoints – 13 by Golden Heart » 26 Oct 2014 wrote: The REAL WEALTH of K contained in the Pure Versions of S S S in SMs, UNLAWFULLY LOOTED by the DoG and his gullible followers, is of ABSOLUTELY NO USE TO THEM, (THIEVES can NEVER prosper, and their ‘LOOT’ can NEVER bring them any REAL BENEFIT and prosperity !!!), since their intellects are ‘LOCKED’, and they are NOT ABLE TO COMPREHEND THE TRUE, PURE INTENT OF S S S ! ! !
They UNABASHEDLY CONTINUE to OPPOSE and INSULT GOD by BLATANTLY TWISTING HIS PURE VERSIONS, OWING TO THEIR BLINDNESS AND ARROGANCE of body-consciousness, under the active influence of the ‘mukrar rath’ of Ravan or Satan – the DoG – (Ravanmat, Mayavimat, KUMAT – dictates of Ravan, Maya and EVIL!), amply supplemented by the CORRUPTED and ADULTERATED dictates of their own INVERTED INTELLECTS (Manmat), and the dictates of others (Parmat), TOTALLY IGNORING the PURE Shrimat of GOD-Father Shiva !!!
View HERE - Classical Opposing Viewpoints – 13 by Golden Heart » 26 Oct 2014
PBKIVV Rev SM dated 12.05.2015 wrote: अमरनाथ पर जाते हैं, समझते हैं शंकर ने पार्वती को अमरकथा सुनाई। अमरनाथ की सच्ची कथा तुम अभी सुनते हो। यह तो बाप बैठ तुमको सुनाते हैं। तुम आये हो-बाप के पास। जानते हो यह भाग्यशाली रथ है, इसने यह लोन पर लिया है।
They go to Amarnath (temple in the Himalayas). They believe that Shankar told the story of immortality to Parvati there. YOU (TRUE PARVATIS - principal rulers of G A and S A) are NOW (prior 1969, through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) listening to AMARNATH (S S S - Lord of Immortality) telling You the TRUE STORY of IMMORTALITY. The Father (S S S) sits HERE (in the corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) and tells it to You (prior 1969). You have come to the Father (S S S). You know that THIS one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) is the "Lucky Chariot". Baba (S S S) has taken THIS Chariot (of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) on loan (since He does not have a Chariot of His own). (This DOEN NOT MEAN that this is a temporary Chariot, and He takes another permanent Chariot – as TREACHEROUSLY propagated by Ravan, through ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, to imply that he is the permanent Chariot. ANY Chariot, taken by S S S, would be considered to be taken ‘on loan’; and ANY Chariot, taken by S S S, would be considered to be ‘temporary’, since it is only for a ‘short period’ of time in Confluence Age, as compared to the TOTAL duration of the Cycle)!
PBKIVV Rev SM dated 15.05.2015 wrote: मूल बात है कि सभी को पैगाम दो-बाबा कहते हैं मामेकम् याद करो। बाबा माना ही भगवान। भगवान तो निराकार है। कृष्ण को सब भगवान नहीं कहेंगे। कृष्ण तो बच्चा है। शिवबाबा इसमें ना होता तो तुम होते क्या? शिवबाबा ने इन द्वारा तुमको एडाप्ट किया, अपना बनाया है। यह माता भी है, पिता भी है। माता तो साकार में चाहिए ना। वह तो है ही पिता। तो ऐसी-ऐसी बातें अच्छी रीति धारण करो। तुम बच्चों को कभी भी किसी बात में मूंझना नहीं है। पढ़ाई को कभी नहीं छोड़ना। कई बच्चे संगदोष में आकर रूठकर अपनी पाठशाला खोल देते हैं। अगर आपस में लड़-झगड़कर जाए अपनी पाठशाला खोली तो मूर्खपना है, रूठते हैं तो पाठशाला खोलने के लायक ही नहीं हैं। वह देह-अभिमान तुम्हारा चलेगा ही नहीं क्योंकि बुद्धि में तो दुश्मनी है तो वह याद आयेगी। कुछ भी किसको समझा नहीं सकेंगे।
The main thing He explains is that you have to give everyone the message that Baba (S S S) says: Constantly remember Me ALONE (UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE)! Baba means God (and NOT GOD, plus another embodied human soul). God is incorporeal. Not everyone would call Krishna (of G A) God. Krishna himself is a child. If ShivBaba (S S S) were not in THIS one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani), would You be here? ShivBaba has adopted You and made you belong to Him, through THIS one (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani). (Whereas, Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, has adopted the PBKs, and made them belong to Ravan, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D). Therefore, THIS ONE (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) is a Mother, AS WELL AS a Father (on the corporeal level). A Mother in a corporeal form is needed. He (S S S) is the Father (on the incorporeal level). Therefore, imbibe these things very well. You Children mustn’t become CONFUSED about any aspect. Never stop studying. Some children (like most PBKs, in particular) are influenced by BAD COMPANY (of ‘maha-murkh’, ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, V D D). Then they sulk and open their own pathshala (the DoGly university, AIVV). If they have conflict with someone (the Pure Versions of S S S, and His RIGHTEOUS Children), they go and open their own pathshala (DoGly university, to train further DoGs). That is just FOOLISHNESS. If they sulk, THEY ARE NOT WORTHY of opening a 'pathshala'. Their body consciousness WILL NOT LET THEM CONTINUE. They have ANIMOSITY IN THE INTELLECTS (against the BKs – how to CONSTANTLY DEFAME them; and against ANYONE who endeavours to provide Pure Clarifications of SMs and AVs, DELUSIVELY 'believing' that they are being 'defamed' by ANYONE who provides such Pure Clarifications), so ONLY THAT will be remembered (and they will NOT be able to remember S S S), and they won’t be able to explain ANYTHING TO ANYONE (in the CORRECT perspective)!
HAVE THE GREATEST POSSIBLE MERCY ON THEM !
FORGIVE THEM – FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY SPEAK AND WHAT THEY DO ! ! !


THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by sita » 16 May 2015

Golden heart recognizes our task as Godly.

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by arjun » 16 May 2015

golden heart wrote:This is EXACTLY the reason why S S S SPECIFICALLY discourages RIGHTEOUS Children from entering into any form of DISCUSSION, ARGUMENT, DEBATE or DELIBERATION with such UNRIGHTEOUS Children, lest they too get inadvertently, inexorably & irrevocably drawn into the quagmire of this TREACHEROUS BOG!
Oh, that is why I was wondering all the while why golden heart responds to our comments in just a few words!!!!! ShivBaba has asked her not to discuss, argue, debate or deliberate. Very good.
During this process, they will NOT HESITATE to surreptitiously COLLABORATE with any other souls - who are involved with IGNORING and REFUTING the Versions of God, (provided to Humanity through His chosen, fixed Chariot, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani), and who ‘devote’ their ‘life’ to actively DERIDE and DEFAME them, in accordance with their chosen ‘mission’ of PROSTITUTION & WHOREDOM - and COLLUDE with them to promote their own DEMONIAC mission!
And here I was under the wrong impression that the only collaboration on this forum is between golden heart and shivsena. ;-)
The concept of being a PARASITE is not related to the ACT of PROPAGATION of either Pure Knowledge by BKs, or the CORRUPTED knowledge (POISON) by PBKs; but to the FACT that the PBKs almost ENTIRELY depend on the SMs and AVs, ORIGINALLY provided to the BKs by S S S, which they UNLAWFULLY PLUNDER & LOOT from the BKs, to RE-generate and propagate their CORRUPTED, ADULTERATED, DISTORTED, REVERTED & INVERTED knowledge to TRAP souls in body-consciousness, DELUSIVELY making them ‘believe’ that they are being freed from body-conscoiusness!
Oho! And I was thinking that it was the BKs who have manipulated the original Murlis to the extent that their size has been reduced to half the original. And they are so afraid of PBKs that they have not shown the courage to publish the Murlis on their official website even after celebrating the Platinum Jublee. Perhaps they will bury those manipulated Murlis when they build another tomb for Dadi Janki and thereafter use only her classes as Murlis which they still use, albeit once in a week in the centers and extensively on PoMTV.

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Seats of Mother & Father ALREADY declared, in advance !

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Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
PBKIVV AV dated 05.12.1979, Rev 24.05.2015 wrote: महाराष्ट्र जोन की पार्टियों के साथ - अव्यक्त मुलाकात: 3
अभी कोई भी नम्बर फिक्स नहीं है। सब सीट खाली हैं। सीटी नहीं बजी है। सीटी बजेगी, सीट ले लेंगे। लास्ट वाला भी फास्ट जाकर फर्स्ट ले सकता है। माता-पिता को छोड़ करके बाकी सब सीटें खाली हैं। अभी तकदीर आपके हाथ में हैं, भाग्य-विधाता बाप ने तकदीर आपके हाथ में दे दी है जो चाहो वह बनाओ। अभी इस संगम के समय को वरदान मिला है जो चाहे, जैसा चाहे, जितना चाहे उतना बना सकते हैं।


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None of the numbers are fixed as yet; all the seats are empty. The whistle has not yet been blown. As soon as the whistle is blown, you will take your seat. Even those who have come last can go fast and take the first number. APART FROM the SEATS of the Mother (Om Radhe) and Father (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani), all the seats are still empty. Your fortune is now in your own hands. The Father (S S S), the Bestower of Fortune, has placed your fortune in your hands and you can make of it whatever you want. The time of the Confluence Age is blessed with this blessing: “You can claim whatever you want, in the WAY you want, and to whatever extent you want”.
The Confluence Age 'seeds' of EVIL ! ! ! by Golden Heart » 13 Apr 2015 wrote: REAL ShivBaba has ALREADY DECLARED several times in the SMs that Brahma (BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) and Saraswati (Om Radhe) are NUMBER ONE - Adi Dev & Adi Devi - the TRUE PARENTS of HUMANITY - the HIGHEST Mother & Father or Mama & Baba on the CORPOREAL level of the HUMAN REALM! THESE ARE THE ONLY TWO SEATS WHICH WERE ALREADY DECLARED BY S S S, IN ADVANCE, IN THE BEGINNING ITSELF, in SEVERAL SMs, which 'maha-murkh' V D D, and his BLIND, gullible followers are OBVIOUSLY NOT AWARE OF, and NEITHER DO THEY CARE TO MAKE THEMSELVES AWARE OF, due to their ARROGANCE of Body-Consciousness!
View HERE - The Confluence Age 'seeds' of EVIL ! ! ! by Golden Heart » 13 Apr 2015

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by arjun » 01 Jun 2015

golden heart wrote:in SEVERAL SMs, which 'maha-murkh' V D D, and his BLIND, gullible followers are OBVIOUSLY NOT AWARE OF, and NEITHER DO THEY CARE TO MAKE THEMSELVES AWARE OF, due to their ARROGANCE of Body-Consciousness!
Welcome back dear golden heart,

Your temporary absence from the forum had made me believe that the Admin has banned you just to justify my removal as Admin using rmn as a scapegoat. But now it appears as if your bond continues. May your friendship flourish forever.

Thanks.

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In Confluence Age, the word ‘destroyed’ has TWO connotations !

Post by Golden Heart » 02 Jun 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
PBKIVV Rev SM dated 30.05.2015 wrote: बच्चे समझते हैं हमारी आत्मा का लव परमपिता परमात्मा के साथ है। आत्मा अपने बाप परमपिता परम आत्मा को पुकारती है। प्यार आत्मा में है या शरीर में? अब बाप सिखलाते हैं प्यार आत्मा में होना चाहिए। शरीर तो खत्म हो जाना है। प्यार आत्मा में है। अब बाप समझाते हैं तुम्हारा प्यार परमात्मा बाप से होना चाहिए, शरीरों से नहीं।

You (‘Saput’ or Righteous) Children UNDERSTAND that the Love of You souls is for the Supreme Father, Supreme Soul (S S S ALONE). Souls call out to their Father - Supreme Father, Supreme Soul (S S S ALONEand NOT S S S, plus another bodily beingas TREACHEROUSLY implied by Ravan, after 1969).
Is Your Love for souls or for bodies? The Father (S S S) NOW (prior 1969) TEACHES You (through His ‘mukrar-rath’ BB-Lekhraj Kirpalaniwhereas Ravan implies that S S S DOES NOT TEACH through BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani!) that (TRUE SPIRITUAL) Love should be for souls. The bodies are to be ‘destroyed’ (the word ‘destroyed’, for 'corporeal vehicles' at the ELEMENTAL level, has TWO connotations, at the VERY END of Confluence Age - either completely DISINTEGRATED or completely TRANSFORMED but ONLY ONE connotation at the ATOMIC level, i.e. completely TRANSFORMED - please view earlier post below).
Love is in the soul. Baba (S S S) EXPLAINS to You (through His ‘mukrar-rath’ BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, prior 1969) that Your Love should now be for the Father, the Supreme Soul, (S S S ALONE) and NOT for bodies.
(In contrast, Ravan MASQUERADES as ‘ShivBaba’, after 1969, and implies that the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, is the ‘Supreme Soul’ and one should remember ‘ShivBaba’ in his corporeal bodythe PRINCIPAL AIM being to OPPOSE GOD by DECEITFULLY TRAPPING the souls in Body-Consciousness - thus CONFIRMING their HiranyaKashyapHood)!
View HERE - Supreme Father, Supreme Soul - applies ONLY to S S S ! by Golden Heart » 06 Apr 2015

View HERE - TRANSFORMATIVE PROCESS at the end of Confluence Age ! by Golden Heart » 25 Apr 2015

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by arjun » 02 Jun 2015

golden heart wrote:(In contrast, Ravan MASQUERADES as ‘ShivBaba’, after 1969, and implies that the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, is the ‘Supreme Soul’ and one should remember ‘ShivBaba’ in his corporeal body – the PRINCIPAL AIM being to OPPOSE GOD by DECEITFULLY TRAPPING the souls in Body-Consciousness - thus CONFIRMING their HiranyaKashyapHood)!
Thanks for your valuable comments.

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Path of 'Knowledge' versus path of 'Devotion' !

Post by Golden Heart » 03 Jun 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
PBKIVV Rev SM dated 02.06.2015 wrote: दुनिया में कोई नहीं जानते, वह भक्ति मार्ग अलग है, यह ज्ञान मार्ग अलग है। जिन आत्माओं को बाप पढ़ाते हैं वह जाने, और न जाने कोई। यह है गुप्त खजाना भविष्य के लिए। तुम पढ़ते ही हो अमरलोक के लिए, न कि इस मृत्युलोक के लिए।

NO ONE ELSE (OTHER than the ‘Saput’ or Righteous Children) in the World (Outer ‘World’, BK ‘World’ or PBK ‘World’) knows that the (‘shooting’ of the) path of ‘Devotion’ (in the Yagya, after 1969)
is DISTINCT (or DIFFERENT) from (the ‘shooting’ of) this path of ‘Knowledge’ (in the Yagya, prior 1969).
Only the souls (the ‘Saput’ or Righteous Children), whom the Father (S S S) TEACHES (through His ‘mukrar-rath’ BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani), CAN know ALL of this; NO ONE ELSE (Ravan’s Progeny – most PBKs, in particular – the 'kaput' or UNRIGHTEOUS children) can know it (HOW MUCH EVER THEY MAY TRY) ! ! !
This INCOGNITO TREASURE is for OUR FUTURE (in G A and S A). You ARE STUDYING (in the Godly University, PBKIVV, established by GOD, through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) for ('SOVEREIGNTY' in)
the ‘Land of Immortality’ (S S S or ‘ABSOLUTE’ Ram’s Paradise in G A and S A of the Outer Broad Drama), NOT FOR ('sovereignty' in) this ‘Land of Death’ (Ravan’s or ‘APPARENT’ Ram’s ‘paradise’ in ‘g a’ and ‘s a’ of C A, in particular, of the Outer Broad Drama, established through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D, through their study in the DoGly university, AIVV, established by Ravan, in the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya in theYagya, in the latter part of Confluence Age, after 1969)!

जो पुराने भक्त हैं, जिन्होंने बहुत भक्ति की हुई है उनकी बुद्धि में तो ज्ञान की सब बातें बैठ जाती हैं। भक्ति कम की होगी तो बुद्धि में कम बैठेगा। तुम हो सबसे जास्ती पुराने भक्त। गाया भी जाता है भगवान भक्ति का फल देने लिए आते हैं। परन्तु किसको यह थोड़ेही पता है। ज्ञान मार्ग और भक्ति मार्ग बिल्कुल ही अलग है। सारी दुनिया है भक्ति मार्ग में। कोटों में कोई आकर यह पढ़ते हैं।

Those who are OLD DEVOTEES, those who have DONE a LOT of DEVOTION, will BE ABLE TO KEEP ALL of these aspects of Knowledge in their intellects (HOLISTICALLY). Those who have DONE LESS DEVOTION will be able to keep (or ACCURATELY comprehend) VERY LITTLE (FRAGMENTARY) Knowledge in their intellects (they can NEVER APPRECIATE or comprehend the SUBTLEST SECRETS contained within the Knowledge, due to their INVERTED INTELLECTS).
You (principal rulers of G A and S A) are the OLDEST DEVOTEES of ALL. It is remembered that God comes to grant the fruit of devotion, but NO ONE KNOWS what that is (ACCURATELY).
The (‘shooting’ of the) path of ‘Devotion’ is TOTALLY SEPARATE from the (‘shooting’ of the) path of ‘Knowledge’! The whole World is on the path of ‘Devotion’ (most PBKs, in particular, being the SEEDS of ‘Devotion’ or EVIL - see post below).
ONLY a HANDFUL out of multimillions come and STUDY this Knowledge
( from S S S, through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani; and from AMONG these also, ONLY a FEW can ever COMPREHEND the DEEPEST and SUBTLEST SECRETS of this Knowledge in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE ! )
View HERE - The Confluence Age 'seeds' of EVIL ! ! ! by Golden Heart » 13 Apr 2015

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by arjun » 03 Jun 2015

ONLY a HANDFUL out of multimillions come and STUDY this Knowledge
But BKs are in lakhs now. It is the PBKs who can be called handful.

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Obviously, 'SEEDS' of EVIL are FEW or 'handful' !

Post by Golden Heart » 03 Jun 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
PBKIVV Rev SM dated 02.06.2015 wrote: जिन आत्माओं को बाप पढ़ाते हैं वह जाने, और न जाने कोई।
Only the souls (the ‘Saput’ or Righteous Children), whom the Father (S S S) TEACHES (through His ‘mukrar-rath’ BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani), CAN know ALL of this;
NO ONE ELSE can know it ! (Ravan’s Progeny – most PBKs, in particular – the 'kaput' or UNRIGHTEOUS children CANNOT know it HOW MUCH EVER THEY MAY TRY) ! ! !

कोटों में कोई आकर यह पढ़ते हैं।
ONLY a HANDFUL out of multimillions come and STUDY this Knowledge
( from S S S, through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani; and from AMONG these also, ONLY a FEW can ever COMPREHEND the DEEPEST and SUBTLEST SECRETS of this Knowledge in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE ! )
Most PBKs, in particular, being the SEEDS of ‘Devotion’ or EVIL, have to be FEW or 'handful'
- in a TOTALLY DIFFERENT CONTEXT ALTOGETHER
- see post below !

View HERE - The Confluence Age 'seeds' of EVIL ! ! ! by Golden Heart » 13 Apr 2015

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'NECTAR' of Knowledge versus 'Poison' of knowledge !

Post by Golden Heart » 04 Jun 2015

Sweetest, Beloved Golden Hearts,
PBKIVV Rev SM dated 03.06.2015 wrote: गायन है ना - अमृत छोड़ विष काहे को खाए। विष तो खराब है ना। बाप कहते हैं यह विष तुमको आदि-मध्य-अन्त दु:ख देता है परन्तु इनको प्वाइजन समझते थोड़ेही हैं। जैसे अमली अमल बिगर रह नहीं सकता, शराब की आदत वाला शराब बिगर रह न सके। लड़ाई का समय होता है तो उनको शराब पिलाकर नशा चढ़ाए लड़ाई पर भेज देते हैं। नशा मिला बस, समझेंगे हमको ऐसा करना है। उन लोगों को मरने का डर नहीं रहता है। कहाँ भी बॉम्ब्स ले जाकर बॉम्ब सहित गिरते हैं।

It is remembered: Why do you (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his EQUALLY ‘maha-murkh’, BLIND, gullible followers) renounce ‘Nectar’ (of PURE Knowledge given to Humanity by S S S, through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) and drink ‘Poison’ ? (of CORRUPTED & Reversed Advance knowledge, propagated by Ravan, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D)?
'Poison' (of CORRUPTED & Reversed Advance knowledge) is BAD, is it not? The Father (S S S) says: This 'Poison' (of CORRUPTED & Reversed Advance knowledge) causes you sorrow FROM the TIME it BEGINS (after 1969, in the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya in the Yagya, in Confluence Age), THROUGH the MIDDLE, TO the END. However, you (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his EQUALLY ‘maha-murkh’, BLIND, gullible followers) don’t consider it to be ‘Poison’ (DO YOU) ???
You (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his EQUALLY ‘maha-murkh’, BLIND, gullible followers) are like an ‘ADDICT’ WHO cannot STOP HIS ‘ADDICTION’, like an ‘ALCOHOLIC’ WHO cannot STOP TAKING ‘ALCOHOL’ (owing to your CORRUPTED & INVERTED INTELLECTS). When it is time for (Ravan’s) ‘soldiers’ to go into ‘battle’ (against the ‘ANGELS’ of GOD), they are given ‘alcohol’ (of CORRUPTED & Reversed Advance knowledge) to make them ‘intoxicated’ (so that they may NOT PERCEIVE RIGHT from WRONG, RIGHTEOUSNESS from UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, GOOD from EVIL)! Then they (BLIND, gullible followers of the DoG, from the DoGly university, AIVV) are sent into ‘battle’ (against the ‘ANGELS’ of GOD). Once they are ‘intoxicated’ (with the CORRUPTED & Reversed Advance knowledge), that’s it ! They FEEL (DECEITFULLY & TREACHEROUSLY) that, that is what they have to do (they are NO LONGER ABLE TO DISCERN RIGHT FROM WRONG). They don’t fear ‘Death’ (and they don’t FEAR GOD – since they are DELUSIVELY MADE to BELIEVE that Ravan is GOD, and that they are acting on the injunctions of GOD)!!! They (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his EQUALLY ‘maha-murkh’, BLIND, gullible followers) would go anywhere (including the headquarters of the Godly University at Mt Abu – Madhuban) with 'bombs' (of CORRUPTED & Reversed Advance knowledge) and ‘blow themselves up’ (get detected, caught, THRASHED and EXPELLED) along with the 'bombs' (intended to ‘blow’ or CORRUPT the Minds and Intellects of as many UNWARY BKs, as is allowed within the EWD)!
This SUBTLEST ‘shooting’, at the 'SEED' level, is CURRENTLY 'ACTIVELY MANIFESTED' in the 'Outer World' by the ‘soldiers’ of ‘I S’, who are EVER-READY and WILLING to ‘BLOW THEMSELVES UP’ with ‘explosives’ in order to ‘destroy’ as many of the ‘enemy’ as possible, with INCREASING ZEAL & ENTHUSIASM - IN THE NAME GODthe MERCIFUL, the BENEFICENTwith LOUD DECLARATIONS of “GOD IS GREAT” - since they are DELUSIVELY TRICKED by ‘Shaitan’ into ‘BELIEVING’ they are ‘ACTING’ on the injunctions of GOD, and are 'fighting' for GOD, 'TRUTH' and ‘RIGHTEOUSNESS’, and would receive the COVETED ‘PRIZE of PARADISE’, hereafter, in their VERY NEXT EXISTENCE !!!
NO ONE can make them CHANGE their MIND or ‘see’ DIFFERENTLY !
If 'anyone' comes in their 'way', EVEN FOR THEIR VERY OWN GOOD, they would NOT HESITATE to 'ATTACK' them, and COMPLETELY 'eliminate' them, if possible !
The ‘shooting’ of above occurrence in the Outer Broad Drama is taking place with RESOUNDING EXACTITUDE in the Yagya - enacted by ‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his EQUALLY ‘maha-murkh’, BLIND, gullible followers - under the ACTIVE INFLUENCE of Ravan, Maya or ‘NESCIENCE’ !!!

HAVE THE GREATEST POSSIBLE MERCY ON THEM !
FORGIVE THEM – FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY SPEAK AND WHAT THEY DO ! ! !


THOSE WHO HAVE A CLEAR, PURE, DIVINE INTELLECT TO PERCEIVE, LET THEM PERCEIVE !!!

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by arjun » 04 Jun 2015

ONLY a HANDFUL out of multimillions come and STUDY this Knowledge
( from S S S, through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani; and from AMONG these also, ONLY a FEW can ever COMPREHEND the DEEPEST and SUBTLEST SECRETS of this Knowledge in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE ! )
How can BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani be mukarrar (permanent Chariot) when he left his body without fulfilling the task of God?
Most PBKs, in particular, being the SEEDS of ‘Devotion’ or EVIL, have to be FEW or 'handful'
Bhakti is practiced by BK majority and not PBK minority. So, the above arguement is not at all valid.
This SUBTLEST ‘shooting’, at the 'SEED' level, is CURRENTLY 'ACTIVELY MANIFESTED' in the 'Outer World' by the ‘soldiers’ of ‘I S’, who are EVER-READY and WILLING to ‘BLOW THEMSELVES UP’ with ‘explosives’ in order to ‘destroy’ as many of the ‘enemy’ as possible, with INCREASING ZEAL & ENTHUSIASM - IN THE NAME GOD – the MERCIFUL, the BENEFICENT – with LOUD DECLARATIONS of “GOD IS GREAT” - since they are DELUSIVELY TRICKED by ‘Shaitan’ into ‘BELIEVING’ they are ‘ACTING’ on the injunctions of GOD, and are 'fighting' for GOD, 'TRUTH' and ‘RIGHTEOUSNESS’, and would receive the COVETED ‘PRIZE of PARADISE’, hereafter, in their VERY NEXT EXISTENCE !!!
NO ONE can make them CHANGE their MIND or ‘see’ DIFFERENTLY !
Baba repeatedly refers to the moths (parvaaney) who sacrifice themselves in the fire (shama) as the highest ones. Not the ones who make rounds of the fire and fly away in fear. Most BKs come in the second category where they come to know of the shama (the present practical part of God through Shankar) but hesitate to meet Him due to fear of defamation and due to the fear of being banished from BKWSU. But a handful of the courageous BKs venture to test the intensity of the heat of advance knowledge and sacrifice themselves after becoming PBKs.
It is remembered: Why do you (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his EQUALLY ‘maha-murkh’, BLIND, gullible followers) renounce ‘Nectar’ (of PURE Knowledge given to Humanity by S S S, through His ‘mukrar-rath’, BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) and drink ‘Poison’ ? (of CORRUPTED & Reversed Advance knowledge, propagated by Ravan, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ‘maha-murkh’ V D D)?
'Poison' (of CORRUPTED & Reversed Advance knowledge) is BAD, is it not? The Father (S S S) says: This 'Poison' (of CORRUPTED & Reversed Advance knowledge) causes you sorrow FROM the TIME it BEGINS (after 1969, in the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya in the Yagya, in Confluence Age), THROUGH the MIDDLE, TO the END. However, you (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his EQUALLY ‘maha-murkh’, BLIND, gullible followers) don’t consider it to be ‘Poison’ (DO YOU) ???
You (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his EQUALLY ‘maha-murkh’, BLIND, gullible followers) are like an ‘ADDICT’ WHO cannot STOP HIS ‘ADDICTION’, like an ‘ALCOHOLIC’ WHO cannot STOP TAKING ‘ALCOHOL’ (owing to your CORRUPTED & INVERTED INTELLECTS). When it is time for (Ravan’s) ‘soldiers’ to go into ‘battle’ (against the ‘ANGELS’ of GOD), they are given ‘alcohol’ (of CORRUPTED & Reversed Advance knowledge) to make them ‘intoxicated’ (so that they may NOT PERCEIVE RIGHT from WRONG, RIGHTEOUSNESS from UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, GOOD from EVIL)! Then they (BLIND, gullible followers of the DoG, from the DoGly university, AIVV) are sent into ‘battle’ (against the ‘ANGELS’ of GOD). Once they are ‘intoxicated’ (with the CORRUPTED & Reversed Advance knowledge), that’s it ! They FEEL (DECEITFULLY & TREACHEROUSLY) that, that is what they have to do (they are NO LONGER ABLE TO DISCERN RIGHT FROM WRONG). They don’t fear ‘Death’ (and they don’t FEAR GOD – since they are DELUSIVELY MADE to BELIEVE that Ravan is GOD, and that they are acting on the injunctions of GOD)!!! They (‘maha-murkh’ V D D and his EQUALLY ‘maha-murkh’, BLIND, gullible followers) would go anywhere (including the headquarters of the Godly University at Mt Abu – Madhuban) with 'bombs' (of CORRUPTED & Reversed Advance knowledge) and ‘blow themselves up’ (get detected, caught, THRASHED and EXPELLED) along with the 'bombs' (intended to ‘blow’ or CORRUPT the Minds and Intellects of as many UNWARY BKs, as is allowed within the EWD)!
Thanks for showering some more blessings upon us dear golden heart with the blessing of Admin. who will never issue any warning to you in his life because you are making his task of defamation of the PBKs easier.

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Re: Ideological interpretation of the Yagya History - REVs .

Post by khemkaran » 04 Jun 2015

How can BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani be mukarrar (permanent Chariot) when he left his body without fulfilling the task of God?
Om Shanti Arjun Bhai,

What is the meaning of 'Permanent Chariot'?
Does 'Permanent Chariot' mean one who cannot leave his body till destruction of this world?
Does 'Permanent Chariot' mean one who starts the work (of establishment of world) of God?

And now Brahma Baba had left his corporeal body, but not subtle body. God entered in corporeal body.
Can God not enter in subtle body?
There are many ways to do Godly Services. BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani does Godly service through subtle body, and inspires many BKs and others to do Godly service.

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