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Post by admin » 09 Jul 2015

BKWSU SM, Revised 28.02.2015 wrote: अपने को शिवोहम कहते हैं, उससे क्या हुआ । शिवबाबा तो आते ही हैं पढ़ाने लिए, सहज राजयोग सिखाने लिए । कोई भी साधू-सन्त आदि को शिव भगवान नहीं कहा जा सकता । ऐसे तो बहुत कहते हैं - हम कृष्ण हैं, हम लक्ष्मी-नारायण हैं । अब कहाँ वह श्रीकृष्ण सतयुग का प्रिन्स, कहाँ यह कलियुगी पतित । ऐसे थोड़ेही कहेंगे इनमें भगवान् है ।

They call themselves "Shivohum" (I am Shiva). What happened through that? Shiv Baba comes to teach you. He comes to teach you easy Raja Yoga. None of the sages or saints would be called God Shiva. There are many who call themselves Krishna or Lakshmi & Narayan. There is so much difference between Shri Krishna, the prince of the Golden Age, and these Iron-Aged, impure ones. You would not say that God is in them.
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY understand that when they become completely soul-conscious, and are able to remain in constant remembrance of God, (at the very end of the Confluence Age), EXPERIENCING God or Shiva as a TINY POINT or BRIGHT DOT, (which is the 'avyabichari' or UNADULTERATED, 'yatharth rup' or 'accurate form' of God), they become so ABSORBED in this remembrance (‘lagan mey magan avastha’) that, body-conscious souls who see them with their ‘physical eyes’ would experience them to be the 'yatharth rup' or 'accurate form' of God (combined with bodily souls, either in their gross or subtle forms), depending on their (body-conscious souls') own perception of their own correspondingly evolved spiritual stage?

Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY understand that such body-conscious souls who thus EXPERIENCE them (the Righteous Children) to be the 'yatharth rup' or 'accurate form' of God (combined with bodily souls, either in their gross or subtle forms), and who CANNOT have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE (‘avyabichari Yaad’) of God ALONE, have no OPTION but to resort to INACCURATE & ADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE of God, through their respective ‘isht Dev or isht Devi’, or principal favourite Deity (in accordance with their respective governing PRINCIPAL 'belief affiliations' in the Night of The Cycle), and thus mistakenly believe that the 'yatharth rup' or 'accurate form' of God is a combination of God along with the respective form of an embodied soul, either gross or subtle - thus carrying out the ‘shooting’ of ‘Shivohum’, at the very end of the Confluence Age?

Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY understand that even though they become so ABSORBED in the ABSOLUTE remembrance of God or ShivBaba (‘lagan mey magan avastha’), at that point of time, and are ALSO aware that body-conscious souls (who see them with their ‘physical eyes’) experience them (the Righteous Children) to be the 'yatharth rup' or 'accurate form' of God combined with them (the Righteous Children, either in their gross or subtle forms) - STILL are FULLY aware that they are SEPARATE and DIFFERENT from God, and are NOT GOD, but ONLY a HiFi (high fidelity) REFLECTION of the PERSONALITY of GOD, NUMBER-WISE?

Who are the children in the Confluence Age who get TRICKED into believing and following impure sages, saints or bodily ‘gurus’ with Iron-Aged INTELLECTS, who claim they are Congluence Aged Krishna, or Confluence Aged Lakshmi & Narayan, INDIRECTLY implying that God or Shiva is IN them, and therefore they are ‘ShivBaba’ who teach Raj Yoga - and what is the significance and consequences of these predestined & preordained occurrences within Drama and the Cycle?

Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY understand the DIFFERENCE between Shri Krishna, the prince of the Golden Age - AND - these impure sages, saints or bodily ‘gurus’ with Iron-Aged INTELLECTS, who claim they are Confluence Aged Krishna, or Confluence Aged Lakshmi & Narayan, implying that God is IN them; and who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who DEFINITELY would not say that God is IN them DIRECTLY, and understand the DIFFERENCE of God being with them INDIRECTLY - and are therefore able to watch the unfolding events as detached observers, TOTALLY unaffected by the apparent adverse behaviour & conduct of those concerned instrumental souls, and apparent adverse circumstances & situations resulting therefrom?

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Post by admin » 11 Jul 2015

BKWSU SM, Revised 11.07.2015 wrote: समझते भी हैं स्वर्ग की राजाई देते हैं, फिर भी सुनन्ती, कथन्ती, अहो माया फारकती देवन्ती। बाबा कहा, तो बाबा माना बाबा। भक्तिमार्ग में भी गाया जाता है पतियों का पति, गुरूओं का गुरू एक ही है। वह हमारा फादर है। ज्ञान का सागर पतित-पावन है। तुम बच्चे कहते हो: बाबा हम कल्प-कल्प आपसे वर्सा लेते आये हैं। कल्प-कल्प मिलते हैं। आप बेहद के बाप से हमको जरूर बेहद का वर्सा मिलेगा। मुख्य है ही अल्फ। उसमें बे मर्ज है। बाबा माना वर्सा। वह है हद का, यह है बेहद का।
हद के बाबा तो ढेर के ढेर हैं। बेहद का बाप तो एक ही है।

You understand that Baba gives you the Sovereignty of Heaven. Even then, some of you hear the Knowledge, speak the Knowledge, and then Maya divorces you. When you say “Baba”, then “Baba” means “Baba”! On the path of devotion, too, it is praised: He is the Husband of all husbands. There is only the one Guru of all gurus. He is our Father. He is the Ocean of Knowledge, the Purifier. You Children say: Baba, we claim our inheritance from You every Cycle. We meet You every Cycle. We will definitely receive our unlimited inheritance from You, our unlimited Father. The main ONE is ‘Alif’ or Alpha. Then ‘Bey’ or Beta is merged in that. “Baba” implies an inheritance. That is limited, whereas this is unlimited.
There are many limited Babas, but only the one unlimited Father.
Who is the ONLY ONE UNLIMITED Father or UNLIMITED Baba, the REAL Supreme Soul, the REAL ‘Alif’ or ‘Alpha’, who gives the UNLIMITED Inheritance, ‘Bey’or ‘Beta’, of the Sovereignty of Heaven in Golden Age, to the UNLIMITED or RIGHTEOUS Children, who RECOGNIZE & REALIZE Him ACCURATELY, and are able to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED remembrance (‘avyabichari Yaad’) of Him as a TINY POINT or BRIGHT DOT, to enable them to claim their UNLIMITED Inheritance of the Sovereignty of Heaven in the Golden Age - on the REAL, 'Pavitra Pravritti Marg' or PURE house-hold path?

Who are the LIMITED or UNRIGHTEOUS children, who ARE NOT ABLE to RECOGNIZE & REALIZE God ACCURATELY in His 'yatharth rup' or 'accurate form', who are DIVORCED from God by Maya or Ravan, and are TRICKED into believing that an embodied soul is the ONLY ONE ‘Supreme Soul’ (among embodied souls), who claims to be ‘Alif’ or ‘Alpha’, and thus have NO OPTION but to resort to INACCURATE & ADULTERATED remembrance of God through an embodied soul, (or combined with an embodied soul, either in gross or subtle form), under the POWERFUL INFLUENCE of ‘Bhakti’ or Devotion, which ONLY enables them to claim their LIMITED inheritance of sovereignty in the Night of the Cycle - on the APPARENT, 'Apavitra Pravritti Marg' or IMPURE house-hold path?

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Post by admin » 14 Jul 2015

BKWSU SM, Revised 07.07.2015 wrote: आजकल दुनिया में हर बात में ठगी बहुत है। दूध में भी ठगी। सच्ची चीज़ तो मिलती नहीं। बाप के लिए भी ठगी। स्वयं को ही भगवान कहलाने लगते हैं। अभी तुम बच्चे जानते हो आत्मा क्या है, परमात्मा क्या है। तुम्हारे में भी नम्बरवार पुरूषार्थ अनुसार हैं।

Nowadays, there’s a lot of cheating in every respect. They even cheat with Milk; you just can’t get the real thing. They even cheat the Father; they begin to have themselves called God. You Children now understand what a soul is and what the Supreme Soul is. However, this is number-wise according to the effort each of you makes.
Who are the Children who CLEARLY understand that WHOLESALE CHEATING occurs in the latter part of Confluence Age, even with the MILK of Knowledge, during the ACTIVE ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya, having the potential to deceive even the very ELECT?

Who are the children who do not have the potential to clearly discern that such CHEATING is ACTUALLY taking place in the Confluence Age, even with the MILK of Knowledge, and who allow themselves to be TRICKED into imbibing the ADULTERATED MILK of Knowledge, BLINDLY trusting and believing the same to be PURE MILK of Knowledge - or the TEACHING of God, having UNLIMITED MEANING - which is ACTUALLY the CORRUPTED & PERVERTED INTERPRETATIONS of PURE Knowledge revealed by God, PERFECTLY MISINTERPRETED in ACCURATE CONSONANCE with the degenerated concepts of 'EXTREMELY Tamopradhan Bhakti' or 'EXTREMELY Degraded Devotion' of Ravan Rajya?

Who are the Children who CLEARLY understand what a soul is and what the Supreme Soul is, and who the Supreme Soul is; and who are able to CLEARLY RECOGNIZE those who CHEAT the Father Himself -
(totally unaware that they are cheating themselves, and delusiely believing that God is teaching them) by claiming or believing that God is IN them, (or they are Supreme Soul), or that God is a combined form of their ‘isht Dev or isht Devi’, (or PRINCIPAL favourite Deity), and implying they are ‘ShivBaba’?

Who are the children who DO NOT have the potential to clearly DIFFERENTIATE between the REAL Supreme Soul Shiva – AND, those who claim or imply that they are Supreme Soul - thus CHEATING the Father Himself - (totally unaware that they are cheating themselves, and delusiely believing that God is teaching them) by claiming or believing that God is IN them (or that God is a combined form of their ‘isht Dev or isht Devi’, or PRINCIPAL favourite Deity), and implying they are ‘ShivBaba’?

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BKWSU SM, Revised 19.06.2015 wrote: मीठे-मीठे रूहानी बच्चों प्रति बाप समझाते हैं - ज्ञानी और अज्ञानी किस-किस को कहा जाता है, यह सिर्फ तुम ब्राह्मण ही जानते हो। ज्ञान है पढ़ाई जिससे तुम जान गये हो कि हम आत्मा हैं, वह परमपिता परमात्मा है। तुम जब वहाँ से मधुबन आते हो तो पहले जरूर अपने को आत्मा समझते हो। हम जाते हैं अपने बाप के पास। बाबा, शिवबाबा को कहते हैं, शिवबाबा है प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा के तन में। वह भी बाबा हो गया। तुम घर से निकलते हो तो समझते हो हम बापदादा के पास जाते हैं। तुम चिट्ठी में भी लिखते हो “बापदादा” शिवबाबा, ब्रह्मा दादा

The Father explains to You sweetest, spiritual Children. ONLY YOU Brahmins know who are called knowledgeable (‘Gyani’) and who are called ignorant (‘agyani’). Knowledge is this study through which you come to know that each of us is a soul, and that He is the Supreme Father, the Supreme Soul. When you come to Madhuban from your respective places you definitely first consider yourselves to be souls. “We are going to our Father.” ShivBaba is called Baba, ShivBaba is in the body of Prajapita Brahma; he too becomes your Baba. When you leave your home (to come here), you understand that you are going to BapDada. The letters you write even say, “BapDada” - ShivBaba and Brahma Dada.
Who are the Children who CLEARLY know which Children can be called ‘Knowledgeable’ or ‘Gyani’, and which children are called ‘ignorant’ or ‘agyani’, in the Confluence Age, ALTHOUGH both types of children study the same Knowledge revealed by God, and what is the basis for this CLEAR DIFFERENTIATION, and consequent number-wise status achieved by the respective types of children?

Who are the Children who have ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT that ‘Supreme Father, Supreme Soul’ refers ONLY to ONE UNLIMITED Father, ShivBaba or God Himself – COMPLETELY UNADULTERATED with any embodied soul, either in a corporeal or subtle form;
And who are the children who are TRICKED into believing that ‘Supreme Father’ refers to God, while ‘Supreme Soul’ refers to the one supreme among embodied souls, or vice versa, or even that both ‘Supreme Father, Supreme Soul’ refer to an embodied soul, in different contexts, thus COMPLETELY ADULTERATING the revelation of God with an embodied soul, either in a corporeal or subtle form?

Who are the Children who CLEARLY understood and PRACTICALLY EXPERIENCED, prior 1969, that they were going to meet ShivBaba and Brahma Dada, or ShivBaba in the body of Prajapita Brahma? Who is this ShivBaba and who is this Prajapita Brahma or Brahma Dada, prior 1969, whom those Children were meeting, and what was their aim and destination, and what were their practical achievements?
Who are the Children who CLEARLY understand, after 1969, that they are going to meet ShivBaba and Brahma Dada or ‘BapDada’ in ‘Avyakt’ through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, and what is their aim and destination, and what are their practical achievements?

Who are the children who DECLINE to accept that souls can meet ShivBaba in ‘Avyakt’ through the instrumental subtle body of Prajapita Brahma or Brahma Dada & the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, and therefore DIVORCE themselves from meeting God even in ‘Avyakt’, after 1969, STAUNCHLY believing that God is enacting the ‘Sakar’ role of Prajapita Brahma through another corporeal body, (whom they can meet in ‘Sakar’ even after 1969), and further believing that those who do not recognize this aspect DIVORCE themselves from meeting God in ‘Sakar’ after 1969, and what is their aim and destination, and what are their practical achievements?

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Post by admin » 16 Jul 2015

BKWSU SM, Revised 14.07.2015 wrote: बेहद का बाप जिसको परम आत्मा कहा जाता है, जैसे आत्मा का रूप बिन्दी है वैसे ही परमपिता परमात्मा का भी रूप बिन्दी है। बाकी इतना बड़ा लिंग जो बनाते हैं वह सब भक्ति मार्ग में पूजा के कारण। बिन्दी की पूजा कैसे हो सकती।

The unlimited Father is called the Supreme Soul. Just as the form of souls is a POINT, so the form of the Supreme Father, the Supreme Soul, is also a POINT. However, the large ‘ling’ or oval image that they make on the path of devotion is just so that they can worship Him. Otherwise, how could a point be worshipped?
Who are the Children who CORRECTLY RECOGNIZE & EXPERIENCE the ‘yatharth rup’ or ACCURATE form of BOTH themselves, as well as their Supreme Father, Supreme Soul, God, to be a TINY POINT or BRIGHT DOT; and CLEARLY EXPERIENCE this to be the 'yatharth avyabhichari yad' or ACCURATE UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE of God, (in STARK CONTRAST to BLIND WORSHIP or INACCURATE ADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE of God), and what are their achievements and what is their destination?

Who are the children who are UNABLE to RECOGNIZE & EXPERIENCE the ‘yatharth rup’ or ACCURATE form of BOTH themselves, as well as their Supreme Father, Supreme Soul, God, to be a TINY POINT or BRIGHT DOT; as a DIRECT consequence of which they are left with NO OPTION but to endeavour to remember God in the ‘ling’ or vehicle of an embodied soul, either corporeal or subtle, believing that God, COMBINED with an embodied soul, either in a corporeal or subtle form, is the ‘yatharth rup’ or ACCURATE form of God – UNAWARE that such ADULTERATED remembrance can only be considered to be ACCURATE WORSHIP or INACCURATE ADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE (and NOT ACCURATE UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE), (being the ACCURATE 'shooting' of 'Shivohum' - 'I am God' or 'God is COMBINED with an embodied soul, either corporeal or subtle' - and 'Sarv-vyapi' - 'God is in everyone' - at the very end of the Confluence Age), and what are their achievements and what is their destination?

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BKWSU SM, Revised 20.07.2015 wrote: सत्य बोलने वाला एक बाप है, इस संगम पर पुरुषार्थी बनने के लिए यह एक ही सत का संग होता है। बाप जब आते हैं, बच्चों से मिलते हैं, तब उसको ही सतसंग कहा जाता है। बाकी सब हैं कुसंग। गाया जाता है – ‘सत का संग तारे कुसंग बोरे ..’ - कुसंग है रावण का। बाप कहते हैं मैं तो तुमको पार ले जाता हूँ। फिर तुमको डुबोते कौन हैं? तमोप्रधान कैसे बन जाते हो, वह भी बताना पड़ता है। सामने दुश्मन है माया। शिवबाबा है मित्र। उनको कहा जाता है - पतियों का पति। यह महिमा कोई रावण की नहीं है। सिर्फ कहेंगे रावण है, बस और कुछ नहीं। रावण को क्यों जलाते हैं? वहाँ भी तुम बहुत सर्विस कर सकते हो। कोई भी मनुष्यमात्र नहीं जानते कि रावण कौन है? कब आते हैं, क्यों जलाते हैं? ब्लाइन्डफेथ है ना।

It is the ONE Father who speaks the truth. In order to become an effort-maker at this Confluence Age, there is only ONE Company of Truth. This is the 'satsang' (Company of Truth) where the Father comes and meets His children. All other company is bad. It is said: The company of the Truth takes you across, whereas bad company drowns you. Bad company is Ravan’s company. The Father says: I take you across. So, who then drowns you? You also have to be told how you become tamopradhan. Maya, the enemy, is in front of you, whereas Shiv Baba is your Friend. He is called the Husband of all husbands. This praise does not belong to Ravan. They simply say that he is Ravan, that’s all. Why do they burn an effigy of Ravan? You can do a great deal of service there (where they burn Ravan’s effigy). No human beings know who Ravan is, when he comes or why they burn him. There is blind faith.
Who are the Children who keep the Company of only ONE Father, who is the TRUTH, and who takes them across? In the Confluence Age, when does this Father come and meet His Children in a ‘satsang’ or TRUE GATHERING, and through whom?

Who are the children who are TRICKED into keeping the company of Ravan (delusively believing Ravan to be God), who is FALSE, and who ACTUALLY makes them drown (delusively believing they would be taken across)? In the Confluence Age, when does Ravan come and meet such children in a ‘juthsang’ or FALSE GATHERING, and through whom?

Who are the Children who EXPERIENCE ShivBaba or God to be their TRUE FRIEND, and also the HUSBAND of all husbands, and EXPERIENCE a SPIRITUAL conjugal RELATIONSHIP with God - through whom, and what is their ultimate destination?

Who are the children who 'experience' Ravan to be their true friend, (having been TRICKED into believing Ravan to be God), and also 'experience' Ravan to be the husband of all husbands, (having been DELUDED into believing Ravan to be God), and therefore readily relent/consent to having a conjugal/carnal relationship with Ravan - through whom, and what is their ultimate destination?

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BKWSU SM, Revised 20.07.2015 wrote: आत्मा भी देखने में नहीं आती, पढ़ाने वाला बाप परमात्मा भी देखने में नहीं आता। ऐसा तो कभी कोई सतसंग में अथवा शास्त्रों में सुना नहीं। न कभी सुना, न कभी देखा। अभी तुम जानते हो हम आत्मा देखने में नहीं आती। आत्मा को ही पढ़ना है। आत्मा ही सब कुछ करती है ना। यह नई बात है ना जो और कोई समझा न सके। परमपिता परमात्मा जो ज्ञान का सागर है, वह भी देखने में नहीं आता। निराकार पढ़ाये कैसे? आत्मा भी शरीर में आती है ना। वैसे परमपिता परमात्मा बाप भी भाग्यशाली रथ अथवा भागीरथ में आते हैं। इस रथ को भी अपनी आत्मा है। वह भी अपनी आत्मा को देख थोड़ेही सकते हैं। बाप इस रथ के आधार से आकर बच्चों को पढ़ाते हैं। आत्मा भी एक शरीर छोड़ फिर दूसरा लेती है। आत्मा की पहचान है, देखी नहीं जाती है। वह बाप जो देखा नहीं जाता, वह तुमको पढ़ा रहे हैं। यह है बिल्कुल नई बात।

Neither are souls visible nor is the Father, the Supreme Soul, who is teaching us, visible. You would not have heard this at any other spiritual gathering or in the scriptures. Neither would you have heard it nor would you have seen it. You now understand that we souls are invisible. It is the soul that has to study. It is the soul that does everything. This is something new which no one else can explain. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul, who is the Ocean of Knowledge, is not visible. How can the incorporeal One teach? Just as souls enter bodies, so the Father, the Supreme Soul also enters the Fortunate Chariot or the Lucky Chariot. This Chariot also has his own soul. He cannot see his own soul either. The Father comes and TEACHES you children with the support of this Chariot. A soul sheds a body and takes the next one. A soul can be understood, but cannot be seen. The Father who cannot be seen is teaching you. This is something completely new.
Who are the Children who understand that both the individual soul as well as the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, God, cannot be seen with the physical eyes, but can be understood or EXPERIENCED, ONLY when an embodied soul has developed a soul-conscious stage, and therefore are not dependent on any embodied soul, either in a corporeal or subtle form, in order to have ACCURATE or UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE (‘avyabichari yad’) of God, and what are their achievements and what is their destination?

Who are the children who have been informed that both the individual soul as well as the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, God, cannot be seen with the physical eyes, and can be understood or EXPERIENCED, ONLY when an embodied soul has developed a soul-conscious stage - but owing to their inability to develop a soul-conscious stage, they are dependent on an embodied soul, either in a corporeal or subtle form, through whom they can only have INACCURATE or ADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE ‘(vyabichari yad’) of God, and what are their achievements and what is their destination?

Who are the Children who CLEARLY understand that the ‘Supreme Father Supreme Soul’, God, who is the Ocean of Knowledge, is not visible to the physical eyes, and therefore, being incorporeal, has to take the support of a Fortunate or Lucky Chariot of an embodied soul in order to TEACH such Children, (in corporeal form till 1969, and in subtle form to date, UNTIL they are able to develop a soul-conscious stage to be able to have ACCURATE UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE of God), and who is this permanent Lucky Chariot, and what are the achievements and destination of such Children?

Who are the children who are delusively made to believe that the ‘Supreme Father Supreme Soul’ represents a combination of God with an embodied soul, either in a corporeal or subtle form, and that God did NOT TEACH through this particular Fortunate or Lucky Chariot in corporeal form prior 1969, and does NOT TEACH through the same Lucky Chariot in subtle form after 1969, but is now teaching through another Chariot who is considered to be the actual permanent ‘Lucky Chariot’, and what are the achievements and destination of such children?

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BKWSU SM, Revised 23.07.2015 wrote: तुम जानते हो बाप जो ज्ञान का सागर है, वही वर्ल्ड की हिस्ट्री-जाग्रॉफी का सार समझा रहे हैं। नॉलेजफुल हैं। यह तो खुद कहते हैं मैं भगवान नहीं हूँ। तुम्हें तो देह से न्यारा देही-अभिमानी बनना है। सारी दुनिया को, अपने शरीर को भी भूलना है। यह भगवान है नहीं। इनको कहते ही हैं बापदादा। बाप है ऊंच ते ऊंच। यह पतित पुराना तन है। महिमा सिर्फ एक की है। उनसे योग लगाना है तब ही पावन बनेंगे। नहीं तो कभी पावन बन नहीं सकेंगे और पिछाड़ी में हिसाब-किताब चुक्तू कर सज़ायें खाकर चले जायेंगे। भक्ति मार्ग में हम सो, सो हम का मन्त्र सुनते आये हो। हम आत्मा सो परमपिता परमात्मा, सो हम आत्मा - यही रांग मन्त्र परमात्मा से बेमुख करने वाला है। बाप कहते हैं - बच्चे, परमात्मा सो हम आत्मा कहना यह बिल्कुल रांग है। अभी तुम बच्चों को वर्णों का भी रहस्य समझाया गया है।

You know that the Father, who is the Ocean of Knowledge, Himself explains the essence of World History and Geography. He is Knowledge-full. This one himself says: I am not God. You have to become detached from your body and become soul conscious. You have to forget the whole world including your own body. This one is not God. We are called BapDada. The Father is the Highest on High. This is an old impure body. The praise is of just the One. You have to have Yoga with Him; only then will you become pure. Otherwise, you can NEVER become pure. Then, at the end, there will be punishment experienced through which your sins will be settled and you will return home. On the path of devotion, you have continued to listen to the mantra “Hum-so, so-hum”: I, the soul, am the Supreme Father Supreme Soul - this wrong ‘mantra’ diverts you from God, the Supreme Soul. The Father says: Children, it is COMPLETELY wrong to say “I, the soul, am the Supreme Soul.” The significance of the different castes has also been explained to you Children.
Who are the Children who CLEARLY understand that the term ‘BapDada’ refers to the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, ShivBaba or God & Brahma Baba or Brahma Dada COMBINED, and who also understand that Brahma Baba himself said that he is NOT GOD, (WHEN he understood the Knowledge correctly)?

Who are the children who DO NOT understand that the term ‘BapDada’ refers to the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, ShivBaba or God & Brahma Baba or Brahma Dada COMBINED, and who delusively believe that the ‘Supreme Soul’ is another embodied soul, and who continue to believe that Brahma Baba STILL has a baby-intellect and STILL considers that he is God, since he has STILL to understand the Knowledge correctly?

Who are the Children who CLEARLY understand (once they have ALREADY received the CORRECT introduction of God and the Pure Knowledge from God through an embodied souland NOT through inspiration) that they have to be detached from their own body and become soul conscious, and have to FORGET the whole world including their own body, and must not remember God in an old impure body, or combined with any embodied being, in either corporeal or subtle form, and have Yoga ONLY with the ONE Highest on High Father, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, in order to become COMPLETELY PURE and AVOID experiencing SEVERE PUNISHMENT to absolve themselves of their sins, at the very end?

Who are the Children who are COMPLETELY CONFUSED (EVEN AFTER they have ALREADY received the CORRECT introduction of God and the Pure Knowledge from God through an embodied soul – and NOT through inspiration) about the FACT that they have to be detached from their own body and become soul conscious, and have to FORGET the whole world including their own body, and must not remember God in an old impure body, or combined with any embodied being, in either corporeal or subtle form, and have Yoga ONLY with the ONE Highest on High Father, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, in order to become COMPLETELY PURE and AVOID experiencing SEVERE PUNISHMENT to absolve themselves of their sins at the very end?

Who are the Children who CLEARLY understand that it is COMPLETELY WRONG to say, “I, the soul, am the Supreme Soul”, since ONLY ONE God, who is the Highest on High, is the Supreme Father Supreme Soul - and who CLEARLY understand that those who believe an embodied soul to be the ‘Supreme Soul’, combined with God either in a corporeal or subtle form, belong to a DIFFERENT caste or dynasty, having another destination?

Who are the children who CANNOT understand that it is COMPLETELY WRONG to say, “I, the soul, am the Supreme Soul”, since ONLY ONE God, who is the Highest on High, is the Supreme Father Supreme Soul - and who delusively believe an embodied soul to be the ‘Supreme Soul’, combined with God either in a corporeal or subtle form - and therefore belong to a DIFFERENT caste or dynasty, having another destination, and which is that destination?

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BKWSU SM, Revised 25.07.2015 wrote: शिवबाबा थोड़ेही कहते हैं यह हमारी चीज़ है। यह तन लोन लिया है, लोन ली हुई चीज़ अपनी थोड़ेही हुई। हमने इनमें प्रवेश किया है, थोड़े टाइम के लिए सर्विस करने अर्थ।
Shiv Baba does not say that this (body) is His. This body is taken on loan, and anything taken on loan cannot be Mine. I have entered this one, for a short time, in order to do service.

रथी भी जरूर चाहिए ना। इस रथ में प्रवेश हो बाप राजयोग सिखलाते हैं, जिससे यह लक्ष्मी-नारायण बनते हैं। किसको भी समझाना तो बहुत सहज है।
A Charioteer is definitely required. The Father enters this Chariot and teaches Raja Yoga, through which these become Lakshmi and Narayan. It is very easy to explain to anyone.

बाबा कहते हैं बच्चे, मैं इस बैल पर (रथ पर) सदैव सवारी करूँ, इसमें मुझे सुख नहीं भासता है। मैं तो तुम बच्चों को पढ़ाने आता हूँ। ऐसे नहीं, बैल पर सवारी कर बैठे ही हैं। रात-दिन बैल पर सवारी होती है क्या? उनका तो सेकण्ड में आना- जाना होता है। सदैव बैठने का कायदा ही नहीं। बाबा कितना दूर से आते हैं पढ़ाने के लिए, घर तो उनका वह है ना। सारा दिन शरीर में थोड़ेही बैठेगा, उनको सुख ही नहीं आयेगा। जैसे पिंजड़े में तोता फँस जाता है। मैं तो यह लोन लेता हूँ तुमको समझाने के लिए। तुम कहेंगे ज्ञान का सागर बाबा आते हैं हमको पढ़ाने के लिए। खुशी में रोमांच खड़े हो जाने चाहिए। वह खुशी फिर कम थोड़ेही होनी चाहिए। यह धनी तो स्थाई बैठे हैं। एक बैल पर दो की सवारी सदैव होगी क्या? शिवबाबा रहता है अपने धाम में। यहाँ आते हैं, आने में देरी थोड़ेही लगती है। रॉकेट देखो कितने तीखे होते हैं। आवाज़ से भी तीखे। आत्मा भी बहुत छोटा रॉकेट है। आत्मा भागती कैसे है, यहाँ से झट गई लण्डन। एक सेकण्ड में जीवनमुक्ति गाई है। बाबा खुद भी रॉकेट है। कहते हैं मैं तुमको पढ़ाने के लिए आता हूँ। फिर जाता हूँ अपने घर। इस समय बहुत बिजी रहता हूँ। दिव्य दृष्टि दाता हूँ, तो भक्तों को राज़ी करना होता है। तुमको पढ़ाता हूँ।

The Father says: Children, I experience no happiness in being seated on this bull (in this Chariot) all the time. I just come to teach you children. It isn’t that I remain seated on this bull (in this Chariot) . Would one remain seated on a bull day and night? His coming and going only takes a second. It isn’t the law for Him to remain seated here all the time. Baba comes from so far away just to teach us. That is His home. He doesn’t remain in this body throughout the whole day. He doesn’t experience happiness in that. That would be like a parrot trapped in a cage. I take this body on loan simply to explain to you. You say that Baba, the Ocean of Knowledge, comes to teach us. You should have goose pimples of happiness, and that happiness should not decrease. This owner (Brahma Baba) is sitting here all the time. Would two (souls) remain constantly seated on one bull (body)? Shiv Baba stays in His own region. When He comes, it doesn’t take Him long to arrive. Look how fast a rocket is! It is faster than sound. A soul too is a tiny rocket. Look how fast a soul flies. It goes from here to London instantly. “Liberation-in-life in a second”, has been remembered. Baba Himself is also a rocket. He says: I come here to teach you. Then I go back to My Home. I remain very busy at this time. I am the Bestower of divine vision. Therefore, I have to please the devotees (too). I teach you (also).
Who are the Children who clearly understand that - the body of Brahma ‘taken on loan’, means that it does not belong to ShivBaba; and that ShivBaba has entered Brahma Baba ‘for a short time’, means that this entry is only temporary, for a short period within the Cycle in the Confluence Age - to enable ShivBaba to do service and TEACH Raja Yoga, through which Mama & Baba or Om Radhe & Brahma Baba become Lakshmi & Narayan in Golden Age - and it does NOT AT ALL imply that ShivBaba has entered Brahma Baba only temporarily - and that He then re-enters another Chariot, who is considered to be permanent by other children?

Who are the children who are confused about the fact that - the body of Brahma ‘taken on loan’, means that it does not belong to ShivBaba; and that ShivBaba has entered Brahma Baba ‘for a short time’, means that this entry is only temporary, for a short period within the Cycle in the Confluence Age - to enable ShivBaba to do service and TEACH Raja Yoga, through which Mama & Baba or Om Radhe & Brahma Baba become Lakshmi & Narayan in Golden Age - and it does NOT AT ALL imply that ShivBaba has entered Brahma Baba only temporarily - and delusively believe that He then re-enters another Chariot, who is considered to be permanent by them?

Who are the Children who clearly understand that ShivBaba comes from FAR AWAY, from His own region, to TEACH through the body of Brahma Baba, (through his corporeal body until 1969 & through his subtle body after 1969, to date), and that He does not remain seated in this permanent, fixed Chariot ALL the TIME throughout the whole day, but goes back to His Home, since He remains very busy in the Confluence Age, with devotees as well as the Children – and therefore the question of remembering Him, combined with an embodied human soul, whether in a corporeal or subtle form, does not arise at all?

Who are the Children who CANNOT understand & CANNOT accept, that ShivBaba comes from FAR AWAY, from His own region, to TEACH through the body of Brahma Baba, (through his corporeal body until 1969 & through his subtle body after 1969, to date), and that He does not remain seated in this permanent, fixed Chariot ALL the TIME throughout the whole day, but goes back to His Home, since He remains very busy in the Confluence Age, with devotees as well as the Children – and therefore get COMPLETELY TRICKED into attempting to remember Him, combined with an embodied human soul, either in a corporeal or subtle form, which only renders them to be like ‘a parrot trapped in a cage’ or 'soul trapped in a body'?

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Post by admin » 29 Jul 2015

BKWSU SM, Revised 28.07.2015 wrote: मुख्य बात है ही पावन बनने की। पढ़ाई तो बहुत सहज है, परन्तु विकर्मों का बोझा कैसे उतरे उसका प्रयत्न करना चाहिए। ऐसे बहुत हैं अथाह पाप करते हैं, बहुत डिस-सर्विस करते हैं। बी.के. आश्रम को तकलीफ देने की कोशिश करते हैं। इसका बहुत पाप चढ़ता है। वह पाप आदि कोई ज्ञान देने से नहीं मिट सकेंगे। पाप मिटेंगे फिर भी योग से। पहले तो योग का पूरा पुरूषार्थ करना चाहिए, तब किसको तीर भी लग सकेगा। पहले पवित्र बनें, योग हो तब वाणी में भी जौहर भरेगा। नहीं तो भल किसको कितना भी समझायेंगे, किसको बुद्धि में जँचेगा नहीं, तीर लगेगा नहीं। जन्म-जन्मान्तर के पाप हैं ना। अभी जो पाप करते हैं, वह तो जन्म-जन्मान्तर से भी बहुत हो जाते हैं इसलिए गाया जाता है सतगुरू के निंदक... यह सत बाबा, सत टीचर, सतगुरू है। बाप कहते हैं बी.के. की निंदा कराने वाले का भी पाप बहुत भारी है। पहले खुद तो पावन बनें। किसको समझाने का बहुत शौक रखते हैं। योग पाई का भी नहीं, इससे फायदा क्या? बाप कहते हैं मुख्य बात है ही याद से पावन बनने की। पुकारते भी पावन बनने के लिए हैं।

The main thing is to become pure. The study is very easy, but you have to make effort to remove the burden of sin. There are many who commit a lot of sin and thereby do a lot of disservice. They try to cause difficulties for the Brahma Kumaris’ Establishment. They accumulate a lot of sin by doing that. Those sins cannot be erased by giving Knowledge to others. Only through remembrance can sins be erased. First of all, make full effort to stay in remembrance, only then will the ‘arrow’ strike someone. Only when you first become pure and have remembrance can there be that power in your words. Otherwise, no matter how much you explain to others, the ‘arrow’ will not strike them. Therefore, it will not enter their intellects. There are the sins of many births. The sins that are committed now become much greater than the sins of many previous births. This is why it is said: Those who defame the Satguru cannot reach their destination. This One is the true Baba, the true Teacher and the true Guru. The Father says: There is a heavy burden of sin on those who cause the Brahma Kumaris to be defamed! First of all, you have to become pure yourself. Some have a lot of interest in explaining to others, but there isn’t a penny’s worth of remembrance. Therefore, what benefit would there be in that? The Father says: The main thing is to become pure by having remembrance. People only call out in order to become pure.
Who are the Children who are making a lot of effort to stay in ACCURATE UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE (‘yatharth, avyabhichari Yaad’) of ONE Father and NONE OTHER, in order to remove the burden of sins and become pure, so that there would be power in their words when they explain the Knowledge to others, for the ‘arrows of Knowledge’ to effectively strike the intellects of others – and what is their destination?

Who are the children who are DELUSIVELY attempting to stay in INACCURATE ADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE (‘ayatharth, vyabhichari Yaad’), of the Father combined with an embodied soul, either in a corporeal or subtle form, hence are UNABLE to remove the burden of sins and become pure, as a result of which there is NO POWER in their words when they explain the same Knowledge to others, since such ‘arrows of Knowledge’ CANNOT effectively strike the intellects of others – and what is their destination?

Who are the Children who CLEARLY understand that sins can be ERASED only through ACCURATE UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE (‘yatharth, avyabhichari Yaad’), of ONE Father and NONE OTHER; and that sins CANNOT BE ERASED simply by giving Knowledge to others - and who do a lot of fruitful Godly Service in the Godly University, BKWSU or PBKIVV, established by God Himself – and what is their destination?

Who are the children who DO NOT CLEARLY understand that sins can be ERASED only through ACCURATE UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE (‘yatharth, avyabhichari Yaad’), of ONE Father and NONE OTHER; and that sins CANNOT BE ERASED simply by giving Knowledge to others – and who are inclined to commit and accumulate a lot of sin, by doing a lot of disservice, by trying to cause difficulties for the Brahma Kumaris’ Establishment or the Godly University, BKWSU or PBKIVV, established by God Himself – and what is their destination?

Who are the Children who CLEARLY understand –
that the sins which are committed NOW (after coming to the Knowledge) become much greater than the sins of many previous births;
and that this is why it is said: “Those who defame the Satguru cannot reach their destination”;
and that ShivBaba is the TRUE Baba, the TRUE Teacher and the TRUE Guru, through the permanent, fixed Chariot of Brahma Baba;
and that the Father clearly says: “There is a heavy burden of sin on those who cause the Brahma Kumaris to be defamed”?

Who are the children who are COMPLETELY CONFUSED and hence DO NOT CLEARLY understand
that the sins which are committed NOW (after coming to the Knowledge) become much greater than the sins of many previous births;
and that this is why it is said: “Those who defame the Satguru cannot reach their destination”;
and that ShivBaba is the TRUE Baba, the TRUE Teacher and the TRUE Guru, through the permanent, fixed Chariot of Brahma Baba;
and that the Father clearly says: “There is a heavy burden of sin on those who cause the Brahma Kumaris to be defamed”? (as a consequence of which they CONTINUE to incessantly defame and ‘throw stones’ at BKWSU, the Godly University, established by God Himself ?)

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Post by admin » 31 Jul 2015

BKWSU AV 28.05.1970 wrote: कमाल करके दिखाना है । सदैव एक दो के स्नेही और सहयोगी भी बनकर चलेंगे तो सफ़लता का सितारा आप सभी के मस्तिष्क पर चमकता हुआ दिखाई पड़ेगा । वहाँ भी स्नेह वा सहयोग देने में कमी नहीं करना । स्नेह और सहयोग दोनों जब आपस में मिलते हैं तो शक्ति की प्राप्ति होती है । जिस शक्ति से फिर सफ़लता प्राप्त होती है । इसलिए इन दोनों बातों का ध्यान रखना, जो आपके जड़ चित्रों का गायन है कि देवियाँ एक नज़र से असुरों का संहार कर देती । वैसे एक सेकेण्ड में कोई भी आसुरी संस्कार का संहार करने वाली संहारकारी मूर्त बनना है । अब यह बात देखना कि जहाँ संहार करना है वहाँ रचना नहीं रच लेना, और जहाँ रचना रचनी है वहाँ संहार नहीं कर लेना । जहाँ मास्टर ब्रह्मा बनना है वहाँ मास्टर शंकर नहीं बनना । यह बुद्धि में ज्ञान चाहिए । कहाँ मास्टर ब्रह्मा बनना है, कहाँ मास्टर शंकर बनना है । अगर रचना करने बदली विनाश कर देते तो भी रांग और अगर विनाश के बदली रचना रच लेते तो भी रांग । कहानी सुनी हैं ना: जब (शंकरने) उल्टा कार्य किया तो बिच्छू टिन्डन पैदा हुए । तो यही भी अगर संहार के बजाए उल्टी रचना रच ली तो व्यर्थ संकल्प बिच्छू टिन्डन मिसल बन पड़ेंगे । तो ऐसी रचना नहीं रचना जो स्वयं को भी काटें और दूसरों को भी काटें । ऐसी रचना रचने से सावधान रहना । जिस समय जिस कर्तव्य की आवश्यकता है उस समय वह कर्तव्य करना है । समय चला गया तो फिर सम्पूर्ण बन नहीं सकेंगे ।

You have to perform wonders. If you continue to be loving and co-operative to one another, the star of success will be visible sparkling on your foreheads. You must not be lacking in giving love and co-operation. When love and co­operation come together, there is the attainment of power, and through this power, you then attain success. This is why you must pay attention to both these aspects. In your non-living images of the goddesses, there is the praise of how you destroyed evil with one glance. In the same way, you have to become an image that destroys any devilish sanskars in one second. Now, you have to check that where you have to destroy anything, there you do not create a creation; and where you have to create a creation, there you do not destroy something. You must not be a master Shankar where you have to be a master Brahma. You need to have this knowledge in the intellect about, where you need to be a master Brahma and where you need to be a master Shankar. If you bring about destruction, instead of creating a creation, that is wrong. And if you create a creation, instead of bringing about destruction, that too is wrong. You have heard the story: When (Shankar) performed INVERTED action, scorpions and ‘lizards’ were created. So here also, if you create a wrong creation, instead of destroying something, then there will be the scorpions and ‘lizards’ of wasteful thinking. So you must not create any such creation which would sting you, and also sting others. You must remain cautious about creating such a creation. Whatever task needs to be carried out at any particular time, you must just do that. If the time passes by, you will then not be able to become perfect.
Who are the Children who CLEARLY understand, regarding their conduct, that – where/when they have to destroy anything, there/then they should not create a creation; and where/when they have to create a creation, there/then they should not destroy something - and that they should keep the constant awareness in their knowledge-full intellects ‘where/when they need to be master Brahma and where/when they need to be master Shankar’ - and what is evident fruit of such conduct, in the Confluence Age itself, based on such clear understanding?

Who are the children who are evidently CONFUSED, regarding their conduct, that – where/when they have to destroy anything, there/then they should not create a creation; and where/when they have to create a creation, there/then they should not destroy something - as a consequence of which they are not able to keep the constant awareness in their confounded intellects ‘where/when they need to be master Brahma and where/when they need to be master Shankar’- and what is evident fruit of such conduct, in the Confluence Age itself, based on such MISUNDERSTANDING?

Who are the Children who CLEARLY understand the significance of the memorial story - “when (Shankar) performed INVERTED action, ‘scorpions and lizards’ were created” - and who are FULLY aware in their knowledge-full intellects of such wrong & INVERTED actions performed by ‘Shankar’, which result in the creation of such UNRIGHTEOUS children, like ‘scorpions and lizards’, in the Confluence Age - and hence are very cautious, and pay FULL ATTENTION that they must not create any such creation which would sting their OWN SELVES, and also sting others?

Who are the children who DO NOT realize that the significance of the memorial story - “when (Shankar) performed INVERTED action, scorpions and ‘lizards’ were created” - ACTUALLY applies to their OWN SELVES - and who are inexorably attracted, in their confounded intellects, to such wrong & INVERTED actions performed by ‘Shankar’, which result in the creation of such UNRIGHTEOUS children, like ‘scorpions and lizards’, LIKE THEMSELVES, in the Confluence Age - and hence are very careless, and DO NOT REALIZE that they are actually involving themselves in creating such FURTHER creation which would ULTIMATELY sting their OWN SELVES, and also sting others?

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Post by admin » 31 Jul 2015

BKWSU SM 10.02.1968 wrote: One should not steal with his organs. One should not pick-up anything stealthily. Picking up anything from Yagya without permission is also termed theft. Many are there who steal stealthily and 'eat'.
This has been going on since the beginning (of the Yagya).
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who have proper regard for both the ‘Parlokik’ Father, ShivBaba, as well as the ‘Alokik’ Father, Brahma Baba, (who have established the Godly University, BKWSU or PBKIVV, for the ultimate benefit of ALL Humankind) - and who will NOT STEAL the Murlis or acquire the Murlis STEALTHILY from the Yagya, including from any of its official branches or other affiliated official sources, without FIRST lawfully intimating, and taking the PROPER PERMISSION from, the INSTRUMENTAL souls, placed in charge of the Organization by God, as per Drama Plan – and who CLEARLY understand that if they thus STEAL the Murlis STEALTHILY, and then try to imbibe the Knowledge within the Murlis, they will NEVER be able to DIGEST the NECTAR from the Murlis, in accordance with the original PURE intent of ShivBaba?
And further, who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY understand that such UNRIGHTEOUS conduct would only render them to be vulnerable to being capriciously attracted to the wrong actions or POISONOUS INVERTED INTERPRETATIONS of the Murlis, craftily performed/propagated by ‘Shankar’ - thus surreptitiously DIVERTING them towards the path of PERDITION, while DELUSIVELY continuing to maintain the impression that they are on the right path to FRUITION?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT have proper regard for both the ‘Parlokik’ Father, ShivBaba, as well as the ‘Alokik’ Father, Brahma Baba, (who have established the Godly University, BKWSU or PBKIVV, for the ultimate benefit of ALL Humankind) - and who ARROGANTLY resort to STEALING the Murlis or acquiring the Murlis STEALTHILY from the Yagya, including from any of its official branches or other affiliated official sources, without FIRST lawfully intimating, and taking the PROPER PERMISSION from, the INSTRUMENTAL souls, placed in charge of the Organization by God, as per Drama Plan – and who DO NOT AT ALL understand that if they thus STEAL the Murlis STEALTHILY, and then try to imbibe the Knowledge within the Murlis, they will NEVER be able to DIGEST the NECTAR from the Murlis, in accordance with the original PURE intent of ShivBaba?
And further, who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT AT ALL understand that such UNRIGHTEOUS conduct would only render them to be vulnerable to being capriciously attracted to the wrong actions or POISONOUS INVERTED INTERPRETATIONS of the Murlis, craftily performed/propagated by ‘Shankar’ - thus surreptitiously DIVERTING them towards the path of PERDITION, while DELUSIVELY continuing to maintain the impression that they are on the right path to FRUITION?

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BKWSU AV, 18.09.1975 wrote:Asking different types of questions, (related to Ravan Rajya), whether to self or others or to Father is an indication that the soul is NOT a 'swadarshan chakradhari' (one who spins The Cycle of 84 births in the intellect) and hence (not) 'chatradhari' (a king, who is always accompanied by servants behind, carrying royal umbrella over him).
Who are the Children who are 'swadarshan chakradhari' (spinners of the cycle of self-ralization or beholders of the spinning vision of the self as a soul), and hence 'chatradhari' (under the constant protective canopy of God Himself, as their OBEDIENT SERVANT, in the Confluence Age), and therefore do not have different types of questions arising in their intellects, (relating to Ravan Rajya), which they need to ask the Father, since the Father Himself TEACHES them, and continues to CLARIFY all their doubts, EVEN without asking, through His FIXED, PERMANENT Chariot, first in ‘Sakar’ prior 1969; and then in ‘Akar’ after 1969, (PROVIDED such Children have also developed a subtle stage of consciousness), through the process of ACCURATE UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE (‘yatharth avyabhichari Yaad’), and what is their destination?

Who are the children who are NOT ABLE to be TRULY 'swadarshan chakradhari' (spinners of the cycle of self-ralization or beholders of the spinning vision of the self as a soul), and hence are NOT ABLE to be TRULY 'chatradhari' (under the constant protective canopy of God Himself, in the Confluence Age), and therefore have different types of questions arising in their intellects, (PARTICULARLY relating to Ravan Rajya), which they feel they need to ask the Father - since they feel the Father Himself DID NOT TEACH them, in ‘Sakar’ prior 1969, and CANNOT TEACH them in ‘Akar’ after 1969, (since such children have NOT BEEN ABLE to develop a subtle stage of consciousness) - and are led to delusively believe that the Father continues to teach them the PURE KNOWLEDGE in ‘Sakar’ even after 1969, through another Chariot, which they consider to be fixed and permanent, who in fact motivates & encourages them to keep asking questions and directs them to have INACCURATE ADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE (‘ayatharth vyabhichari Yaad’), and through whom they receive only ADULTERATED knowledge, and what is their destination?

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Post by admin » 15 Aug 2015

BKWSU SM, Revised 13.08.2015 wrote: अभी तुमको ईश्वरीय मत पर चलना चाहिए। बाप कहते हैं 63 जन्म तुमने विषय सागर में गोते खाये हैं। बच्चों से बात करते हैं। बच्चों को ही बाप सुधारेंगे ना। सारी दुनिया को कैसे सुधारेंगे। बाहर वालों को कहेंगे बच्चों से समझो। बाप बाहर वालों से बात नहीं कर सकते। बाप को बच्चे ही प्यारे लगते हैं। सौतेले बच्चे थोड़ेही लगेंगे। लौकिक बाप भी सपूत बच्चों को धन देते हैं। सब बच्चे समान तो नहीं होंगे। बाप भी कहते हैं जो मेरे बनते हैं, उन्हों को ही मैं वर्सा देता हूँ। जो मेरे नहीं बनते हैं, वह हज़म नहीं कर सकेंगे। श्रीमत पर चल नहीं सकेंगे। वह हैं भगत।

You should NOW follow God's directions. The Father says: You have been floundering in the ‘ocean of poison’ for 63 births. The Father speaks to the Children. The Father would only reform His own Children. How would He reform the whole world? To the people outside, He would say: Learn from the Children. The Father cannot speak to the people outside. The Father finds only the Children to be Loving. The stepchildren would hardly be as Loving. A physical Father also gives wealth to his worthy children. Not all children would be the same. The Father too says: I give this inheritance ONLY to those who belong to Me. Those who don't belong to Me will not be able to digest it. They will not be able to follow ‘Shrimat’; they are devotees.
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children of the ONE TRUE Spiritual Father who are able to follow His directions ACCURATELY, and are therefore able to prevent themselves from floundering in the ‘ocean of poison’ of the INVERTED knowledge propagated by ‘Shankar’, (in the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya, in the Confluence Age, after 1969), and what is their destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who are NOT ABLE to follow the directions of the ONE TRUE Spiritual Father ACCURATELY, and are therefore NOT ABLE to prevent themselves from floundering in the ‘ocean of poison’ of the INVERTED knowledge propagated by ‘Shankar’, (in the ‘shooting’ period of Ravan Rajya, in the Confluence Age, after 1969), and what is their destination?

Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children whom the Father speaks to DIRECTLY, (FIRST in 'Sakar', THEN in 'akar' & FINALLY in 'nirakar' - towards the BEGINNING, MIDDLE & END of the Confluence Age respectively), whom the Father reforms, and whom the Father finds to be TRULY LOVING - who TRULY belong to the ONE Father, and are therefore able to digest and follow His PURE, UNADULTERATED ‘Shrimat’, and thus become worthy to receive the TRUE inheritance of sovereignty in RamRajya?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS step-children, (or devotee-children, carrying out the ‘shooting’ of Ravan Rajya in the latter part of the Confluence Age, after 1969), whom the Father would not speak to DIRECTLY (through His CHOSEN, FIXED & PERMANENT Chariot - Brahma Baba), whom the Father cannot reform, and whom the Father hardly finds to be TRULY LOVING - who DO NOT TRULY belong to the ONE Father, and are therefore NOT ABLE to digest and follow His PURE, UNADULTERATED ‘Shrimat’, (since they are attracted to & enchanted by the 'ocean of poison' of the INVERTED knowledge propagated by 'Shankar'), and thus become worthy to receive ONLY the inheritance of sovereignty in Ravan Rajya?

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Post by admin » 17 Aug 2015

BKWSU AV 16.01.1980, Revised 16.08.2015 wrote: भक्ति में भी गीता से भागवत बड़ा बनाया है। गीता ज्ञान सुनने में कोई रूचि रखे न रखे लेकिन भागवत सभी सुनेंगे। तो जैसे साकार में बच्चों से स्वेहेज़ मनाये ऐसे अभी भी वतन में बच्चों को इमर्ज करते रहते हैं।

On the path of devotion ALSO, the ‘Bhagawad’ has been made larger than the ‘Gita’. Some may or may not be interested in listening to the Knowledge of the ‘Gita’, but everyone would listen to the ‘Bhagawad’. So, just as Baba CELEBRATED in happiness with Children in ‘Sakar’, similarly, Baba is EVEN NOW making you Children emerge in the Subtle Region.

कभी-कभी विशेष स्नेही व सहयोगी बच्चों को विशेष कान में शक्ति का मन्त्र भी देते हैं। क्यों देते? क्योंकि कोई-कोई कार्य ऐसे आते हैं जिसमें विशेष आत्मायें व मुरबी बच्चे निमित्त होने के कारण हिम्मत, हुल्लास और अपनी प्राप्त हुई शक्तियों से कार्य करने के लिए आ ही जाते हैं। फिर भी कहाँ-कहाँ जैसे राकेट को बहुत ऊंचा जाना होता है तो एक्स्ट्रा फोर्स से ऊपर चले जाते हैं। फिर निराधार हो जाते हैं। तो कहाँ-कहाँ कोई ऐसे कार्य आते हैं जहाँ सिर्फ सेकेण्ड के इशारे की आवश्यकता होती है। वह टचिंग होना अर्थात् कान में शक्ति का मन्त्र देना।

Sometimes, He whispers a special ‘mantra’ of power into the ‘ears’ of His especially loving and co-operative Children. Why does He give this? Because some tasks are such that only the special souls, only His dearly beloved Children, because of being instrument souls, with their acquired courage, enthusiasm and powers are ready to perform those tasks. When a rocket has to be sent high up, it is given extra force to go there, and it then becomes INDEPENDENT. Similarly, certain tasks come up for which the Children need to be given a ‘signal’ of a second. To receive that ‘touching’ means to receive a ‘mantra’ of power in one’s ‘ears’.
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who are KEENLY interested in listening to the Knowledge of the TRUE Gita, (SMs and AVs in ENTIRETY), and not to the 'extended' knowledge of the ‘Bhagawad’, (the 'ocean of poison' of the INVERTED knowledge propagated by 'Shankar', after 1969), like everyone else; and who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CELEBRATED in happiness with Baba in ‘Sakar’, (through His appointed, fixed, permanent 'sakari' Chariot, prior 1969), and whom Baba emerges EVEN NOW in the Subtle Region (to continue the celebration of happiness in ‘akar’, through the same 'akari' Chariot, after 1969)?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who are NOT GENUINELY interested in listening to the Knowledge of the TRUE Gita, (SMs and AVs in ENTIRETY), but are KEENLY interested to listen to the 'extended' knowledge of the ‘Bhagawad’, (the 'ocean of poison' of the INVERTED knowledge propagated by 'Shankar', after 1969), like everyone else (COMMONERS); and who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who COULD NOT celebrate in happiness with Baba in ‘Sakar’ BEFORE, (through His appointed, fixed, permanent Chariot, prior 1969), and whom Baba CANNOT emerge in the Subtle Region NOW (since they have allowed themselves to be trapped in body-cosciousness and hence have not been able to develop a subtle stage of consciousness)?

Who are God’s especially Loving, Co-operative and dearly Beloved INDEPENDENT Children, who are the special instrumental souls EVER ready to perform God’s MOST elevated tasks with specially acquired courage, enthusiasm and SPIRITUAL powers, and who are able to receive the ‘touching of signals in a second’, whispered by God in their spiritual ‘ears’, (owing to having developed a subtle stage of consciousness), which enables them to perform those MOST elevated tasks, with just the ‘mantra’ of POWER received DIRECTLY from God in 'akar', and what is their destination?

Who are Maya’s especially loving, co-operative and dearly beloved DEPENDENT Children, who are the special instrumental souls EVER ready to perform Ravan’s MOST DEGRADED tasks, (of 'IGNORANTLY' OPPOSING and DEFAMING God by propagating the INVERTED knowledge promulgated by 'Shankar', after 1969), with specially ‘assigned’ courage, enthusiasm and DEMONIAC powers; (and who are thus NOT ABLE to receive the ‘touching of signals in a second’, whispered by God in their spiritual ‘ears’, owing to NOT HAVING developed a subtle stage of consciousness, which would have enabled them to perform the MOST elevated tasks of God, with just the ‘mantra’ of POWER received DIRECTLY from God in 'akar'), and what is their destination?

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