But the BLIND Unrighteous children, having been TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan – (AFTER having been THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATED with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan) - DELUSIVELY think that the ABOVE is WRONG, and they have SEVERE doubts, and so they then RUN away from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, and go after the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – WITHOUT REAL-EYEsing as to what EXACTLY they are ACTUALLY doing, and where EXACTLY they are REALLY headed!
Some of the things you say are from the Murlis, and we accept that.
REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God ENTERS the impure corporeal body of the soul of DLR, and adopts him, BOTH, as His Spiritual Wife, AS WELL AS, His VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Child, through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF..
When Brahma Baba got the visions, he got confused. And then, after some time, he was clear about what he has to do, and was clear about his part. We don't have evidence that Baba has spoken through his mouth about his part and what he has said. We simply don't know. What we know is that entrance has happened in Calcutta. It means that at that time the Trimurti has to be there. Because when the Father comes the three murtis are certainly required. Then his coming is not proved by any vibration etc, as you are saying. Baba has not said anything like this in the Murli. His coming is proved only through knowledge. It means that in Calcutta there was some knowledge spoken. It is said that the Chariot was found in Calcutta.
Then we have these children teaching Mama and Baba, but did they just come out nowhere? Was Brahma Baba teaching in the beginning and then they came and started teaching? Murlis have started through Brahma Baba only in Karachi. It is said like this in the Murli. Earlier Brahma Baba used to write, but there was also the teachings of the other children whom Baba used to enter. This is what we have as information from the Murlis .How was Brahma adopted and how were the other children adopted?
In the Murli it is said that Brahma listens in between. ShivBaba speaks to the children and Brahma listens in between. His ears listen first of all. Then it is said that the adoption of Brahma, was....ShivBaba said...you are my wife. Here he is in front, not in between. And we have proof for ShivBaba entering other children. Brahma is also mouth born creation, but is it possible to be a mouth born creation through your own mouth. That is why it is asked whose child is Brahma. Obviously of ShivBaba, but we are all children of ShivBaba. We are children of ShivBaba through Brahma. What about Brahma? He is a wife, and wife is also adopted in the same way, it is said like this in the Murli. So there must have been a part of the Father who adopted Brahma.
By remembering only the incorporeal one the intellect can become subtle, but one does not become virtuous. Virtuous becomes the one who remembers the corporeal. Because virtues are expressed only in the corporeal level. A point of light without a body cannot express anything, neither virtue, nor vice. That is why it is said that the easiest effort is to remember Narayan. One has to recognize who is this soul who got birth as Narayan in 1976 as Baba has said in the Murli. Then the remembrance can be easy and natural. It is difficult to remember just a point, and there is no need. Baba has come in corporeal.
The religious fathers remember just the point and they become powerful and achieve an incorporeal stage that is a knowledgeful stage, but they don't achieve heaven. It is only through the corporeal Father that we can achieve heaven, because the incorporeal Father Shiv does not come into heaven. A Father will give such inheritance to his children as is his property. The incorporeal Father Shiv, the point of light does not have the inheritance of jeevan mukti with himself. For we to receive the inheritance of heaven, first the corporeal Father has to receive it and he receives it through his own effort.
It is said that the gates of mukti and jevanmukti open simultaneously. Whilst some will go to mukti at the same time, others will achive jeevan mukti that is liberation whilst in the body. Brahma Baba has left his body and has not taken a new body, so apart from entering he cannot experience this jeevan mukti. Those who achieve the stage of jevan mukti through their body are higher effort makers, their effort is greater, so must be their result. Brahma Baba leaves the body, and achieves jivan mukti after taking birth to his parents, after this world has already been established by his parents.
Baba has said that this knowledge will be understood by the worshipers of Shiva, we should give them this knowledge and also to the worshipers of the deities. Both Shiva and the deities that is Lakshmi and Narayan or Radha and Krishna are corporeal. Shiva is depicted like Shankar or like a shivling. The shivling is a symbol of a particular part of the body. And Baba says that they worship, whilst you remember. Whatever they worship we remember this, it means we remember the deities, they worship the deities, they worship the greatest deity, we remember the greatest deity, that is Mahadev. Baba has said that Mahadev is also me. But is he a memorial of a corporeal personality, a memorial of a point of light, or a memorial of a living personality?
On the path of Bhakti, there is no worship of the incorporeal. There is no worship of just a point of light. All worship is of the corporeal ones, because the path of Bhakti is there in India and in India God is accepted in corporeal form. God is accepted as only incorporeal outside India.
Baba has said that there are no such things as snakes etc in the Subtle Region. The snakes that are there around the body of Shankar. There is no such thing in the Subtle Region, because it is about here, abut this world. Here snake like souls, souls with the quality of the snake, vicious souls get attached to this personality. Here there is the effort to win over lust, not in the Subtle Region, that Shankar is shown to have burned the deity of lust. It is here also the task of destruction, that is great task, greater than the establishment, because the new world that gets established is a very small world and the world that is to be destroyed is very big. That is why Shankar is the most popular deity, because he gives mukti, though him some souls will receive mukti, all souls will first receive mukti. He is shown on the top of the tree sitting in remembrance and all the souls flying up, back to their home. Then some souls will come in jevanmukti, it means they will not leave their body permanently for Paramdham, but will achieve liberation in life and their body will stay. They will witness and survive destruction. Baba has said that at the time of destruction Baba will entertain the children like in the beginning. Children will be safe and protected. So, does it seem right that the children will remain safe and happy in the canopy of protection of ShivBaba and will survive and their body will survive and will be purified and will turn golden and will be rejuvenated, whilst Brahma Baba himself who is considered the Father will not pass through this process. No, the one who is the Father has to pass through this process first of all.
There is also one point that we become trilokinath (Masters of the 3 worlds). Obviously it is a matter of the Confluence Age, because in the Golden Age there is no awareness of Paramdham and there is no Subtle Region. The Subtle Region is created only in the Confluence Age for a short period of time, for the time of the duration of the Confluence Age. So we are masters of the Three Worlds. Shankar is also called Master of the world, but how did Brahma Baba became master of this corporeal world at the time of the Confluence Age. Did he become, because he is no more there in the corporeal world, whatever he has become like a master of this world he has to have achieved it whilst in this corporeal world. Has he achieved such a thing that the souls of all the religions accept him as their Father. No.