In thread: Is Veerendra Dev Dixit not aware of Supreme Soul Shiv? page 3,
Dear PBKs (including Shivsena),arjun on 13 May 2009,
No, it does not mean that just because some sentences are in direct speech, they have been spoken by ShivBaba in direct speech. They are definitely preceded somewhere by indirect speech, like 'the Father says' , 'Baba says' etc. So, on the whole the entire Murli is in an indirect speech.
shivsena on 13 May 2009,
I fully agree with arjun Bhai that the whole Murli is an indirect speech in third person, describing the future Sangamyugi drama and it is directed to and will be understood only by potential 108 (Gyani souls) only.
Also the avaykt Vanis are also in third person for potential 108 souls who will
attain the Bap-samaan avaykt stage numberwise.
shivsena on 14 May 2009,
i feel that God Shiva or whoever has recited the Murlis needs to be indirect to make the souls numberwise;...
What is the meaning of the words made bold in the above quote?
Who spoke in the daily morning and (irregular) evening classes of Dada Lekharaj in Mount Abu?
Was it Dada Lekharaj alone? Or did any other soul too spoke through Dada Lekharaj?
If it was only Dada Lekharaj, then why are those words called Murli or ShivBaba's MahaVakyas?
If some other soul/s spoke through Dada Lekharaj, then who is/are that soul/s?
In scriptures it is said that there are four types of speech. Vaikhari is the spoken speech, whereas other three are the speech that come before Vaikhari and result in the Soken Vaikhari speech. So is it that Supreme Soul Shiv spoke in one of those subtle speeches and Dada Lekharaj gave them gross form that is Vaikhari speech. And hence the Murli appears to be indirect speech.
Or is it that Dada Lekharaj visualised the future happenings and narrated them in advance? (IF it is so then in a way BKs are actual Advance Party people.)
Or is it that Dada Lekharaj churned knowledge he had read in scriptures and also his experiences, and then told about his churnings in the classes he conducted.
Or is it that Dada Lekharaj was a deceiver and just gave words to his fantacies, knowingly.
Or finally, is it that Dada Lekharaj had lost his senses due to sakshatkars (visions) and was a mental case?
I expect PBKs to answer this question, and if they do not know then they will get clarification to this basic question. Because Murlis are the basis for Rudra Gyaan Yajnya. And Virendra Dev Dixit has even said that Murlis are like lines carved in stone (patthar ki lakeer) which cannot be false.
What are Murlis (words spoken through Dada Lekharaj in classes in Mount Abu) for PBKs?