How does ShivBaba speak?

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Re: How does ShivBaba speak?

Post by arjun » 24 Jun 2010

Om Shanti. I have all along been writing on this forum that mbbhat considers himself to be greater than everyone (even ShivBaba) and his above statement proves this beyond doubt. If he feels that Shiv is speaking lies, then it proves that he considers himself to be greater than Shiv. Either he is wrong or Shiv is wrong. Since I cannot believe Shiv to be wrong, I wish mbbhat all the best in his quest to surpass God!!!!!

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Re: How does ShivBaba speak?

Post by mbbhat » 24 Jun 2010

arjun wrote:If he feels that Shiv is speaking lies, then it proves that he considers himself to be greater than Shiv.
How does it prove?

Also another thing- There are lots of gramatical errors in Murlis. Why is it so?

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Re: How does ShivBaba speak?

Post by Sach_Khand » 24 Jun 2010

mbbhat wrote:Yes- if it helps (is necessary ) in realization of truth. But they are not called as lies, they are called as yuktis.
If truth is far, it cannot be said instantly. It will be of no use.
For example, for a small child, one may say- child you need to become doctor. But the whole path cannot be explained. The first aim is to pass the first std. Of course, there is final aim, but path is told gradually.

Similarly I think Baba says these segments (first std, second, third, etc) in different ways in Murlis. Those who have already passed second std only will be able to understand the next route/segment/std. Else they will not be able to realize that. Also once they pass a segment, the old path(that old Murli point) becomes useless to them.
Dear mbbhat,
Your example does not fit here.
Giving direction is different from giving knowledge.
It might be said that ShivBaba told to remember Akhand jyoti as a way of doing Purusharth and later said to remember point of light. But it is wrong to say that ShivBaba told that GodFther is Akhand jyoti in the beginning and then He is saying that GodFather is point of Light.

I understand what you mean to say, but I feel that you are telling it in a wrong way.
GodFather Shiv never lies. This is what I feel.
But He can give directions which are according to the stage of the children.
:neutral:
Sanjeev.

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Re: How does ShivBaba speak?

Post by ak1972 » 23 Jul 2010

Bravo Bravo sanjeev Bhai, nicely put.
Someone needs to tell Bhat Bhai to think & write.He does this quiet often.

OGS

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Re: How does ShivBaba speak?

Post by mbbhat » 24 Jul 2010

Sach_Khand wrote:....It might be said that ShivBaba told to remember Akhand jyoti as a way of doing Purusharth and later said to remember point of light. But it is wrong to say that ShivBaba told that GodFather is Akhand jyoti in the beginning and then He is saying that GodFather is point of Light.
Sachkhand soul wrote- Shiv just tells The Truth, as it is.
GodFather Shiv never lies. This is what I feel.
But He can give directions which are according to the stage of the children.
I also mean the same. I have already said that lie here means yukti.
I understand what you mean to say, but I feel that you are telling it in a wrong way.
Thank you for that. But when you write "as it is" do you think it is right, appropriate or enough?

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