I do not want to kill the conversation on this topic but ...
arjun wrote:Then finally atomic war would take place. Atomic explosions would lead to rise in the temperature of the atmosphere ... Much of the waste of the world gets cleared through earthquakes and the remaining waste would get washed away to the oceans by torrential rains ... The four and a half lakh human beings (except probably the top most eight souls) who would survive the destruction would get buried in the ice for varying periods. Their bodies would remain safe in the ice ... For this Baba has mentioned that during the process of RajYoga, these souls would learn to control their inhalation and exhalation process to such an extent that they would save their bodies from the toxic atmosphere.
I do not want to upset you Arjun because I have respect for you and one's faith in an important and personal issue. The Cycle and Destruction are the cornerstone of BK faith. It seems to me that either one is able to suspend one's disbelief sufficiently and accept The Cycle without question, be uninformed enough about basic science and material realities to accept whatever is told or one hits the Cycle and it breaks whatever faith one had that this could be the God or a reliable God.
Looking at the Destruction theory, does it not appear to you to be a little weak and fantastical? Additionally, what timescales are the PBKs putting on all this to happen? We know that there is much criticism levelled at the BKWSU because they taught 50 years for Destruction and 50 years for Creation, and it is now 70 years later. By that measure, it all has to happen now within 30 years.
It is generally understood that nuclear war would bring about a " Nuclear Winter " because of all the dust entering into the atmosphere would block the sun. Big bangs, and in fact most nuclear war heads are now fairly localised would not add significantly to warming and the 30 year limit would not address the demise of radiation. Just look back to Chernobyl.
Rain does not wash away millions of corpses, look at the mass graves of Iraq or Pol Pots reign. 30 years - given that Destruction was tomorrow - does not allow for complete decomposition of the flesh in all places never mind bones and where do all the flys and invertebrates necessary to break flesh down come and go to. And how do they cope with the billions of animal corpses. How do the Kali Yuga species die out, especially all the insects many of which can survive heat and cold, and how are they replaced with Golden Aged species. Ditto bacteria. Is the Golden Age full of bugs and bacteria?
Neither does a few days rain wash away concrete and metal built civilisations. Earthquakes happen along geological faultlines and not all Kali Yugi cities are on them. Presumably Shiva throws in a few volcanos going pop which would add to the global cooling, actually an Ice Age would preserve the dead and whatever is trapped underneath it. See the 1,000 year old corpses found in high mountains entirely preserved.
You can see the theme I am taking. It does not add up. Are the deities trundling along in their Golden Age tip toeing over mass graves, ignoring desserted cities and Kali Yugi corpses. How do you unpick the old powerlines and pipelines that run all over the world now, the millions of distant villages? Gyan will not have reached every soul in the world.
For me, it is a common technique. A guru, soul or spirit guide being chanelled picks ideas that are too big and too frightening for llittle human beings to consider and traumatises them sufficiently with the fear of them in order to get those human beings to follow its wishes.
In this situation, whether BK or PBK, we are put in a situation where we cannot really ask that spirit guide [ which I say because it is all that I can accept Shiva to be ] to explain himself in a cohert manner and be accountable in the way that a scientist would have to be with their theory. One might ask a senior, one is unable to ask the God of the BKs now, but one is then run around with endless half-baked answers and then given the old " do more Yoga, spin the Cycle, remember God, impure intellects cannot understand " put offs. That is, " we do not know and we cannot tell you and we do not want to question ourselves ".
OK, in this situation, God Shiva has stepped outside of his expertise of moral, consciousness and karma theory and is chosing to enter into physics, geology, biology and climatology. Let him answer specific questions. experience generally shows that asking spirit guides such questions just ends up leading to endless runaround because they do not like to be tied down. The spirit guide can always give an answer to satisfy the mind at that point but whenone stops to think about it later one is left unsatisified.
Why did he teach 50 years for Destruction and 50 years for Creation? He lied to us. We made decisions about our lives on the basis of that " Truth " and he was wrong. It finishes his credibility.
The vast majority of BKs do not have even an intelligent child's understanding of these subjects and don't care because they are in a " drugged up " intoxicated state due to the meditation. They would frankly believe in anything told to them as long as they have something to chew like bubble gum in their mind.
For me, the future does not look good, suffering will increase but The Cycle is just a mental or spiritual technique to help make others make efforts that if they believed the world was going to go for ever, or 100s of years, they would not make. It is a kind of mental straight jacket that distorts the self to do what one would naturally not. And it has been used in Religion from the time of Moses or Christ to achieve just such an effect amongst followers.