newlife wrote:Think the soul uses up its store of happiness or divinity which it has stored ....Think it spends half a cycle going from divine to severely reduced virtue...
I am not discussing about karma as the event or action here, we all know the definition. C'mon folks, I think most of you know what is are good deeds and bad deeds are and it is better for a good action than a bad action, what is sow and reap etc. Even a 4 year old knows if he cleans his teeth he can get a candy. You are just saying something about karma having been told by someone who got it from someone who has heard it from someone else who has heard it from someone else, etc. Even Boy George sings songs about it.shivshankar wrote:You can perform good (which brings happyness to others) or bad (sufferings to others)
You are not adding anything to the discussion about the original nature of the Law of Karma. You talk about the implementation of karma which we all are quite well aware of. You can keep going on about sukarma and vikama etc and all the terms used, but if you can understand the original nature of karma, you can understand the original nature of the (your) soul.
What I am asking is where did the first bad deed come from if the cycle starts out perfect. How did the Law of Karma kick off ? Let's go right back to the beginning of the cycle, not at this point in time during this year 4972 or so, but to the original source of what is karma. i.e the first action. Again, if it is perfect at year 0, then how does virtue get reduced ? How does one use up its happiness ? Surely then something internally has pulled the soul to have that reduction, and if all our sins are within then doesn't that mean that actually all souls when they enter the Golden Age actually also have the vices in dormant state.
And hence a perfect soul in year 0 whilst having full virtues, thus also have full vices. Is this a valid statement ?
Then following on from this, who or what triggered the first act of sin, and hence kicked off the Law of Karma (i.e. action) to come into place ? If we all stayed in seed form in Paramdham, then there would not be any karma involved. So how does karma and the Law of Karma originate once we are sent "down" onto this earth ? If you are all too proud to admit that you will become perfect dieties in the first rosary, then how did vices ever come up if you (as dieties) did not have them in the first place ? Sure you also have the virtues too.